Arsenal Banter Archive June 22 2015

22 Jun 2015 22:13:55
John Terry says Petr Cech will be worth an extra 12 to 15 points a season to us, bit of an exaggeration that but I think probably 5 to 7 is very likely, add a very top striker and between them 12 to 15 extra sounds much more realistic.

{Ed025's Note - i agree G62

22 Jun 2015 23:11:12
I think Everton having Tom Cleverley is worth an extra 12 to 15 points.

To everybody else.

Only joking Ed025 :-)

{Ed025's Note - i think your right dags.. :(

23 Jun 2015 07:11:08
Problem is g62 which striker of this ilk is available? As far as I'm concerned there is none unless agreeing goes to real which will never happen

23 Jun 2015 10:22:43
Funny stuff guys =] . I don't think Terry is far wrong tho. We haven't had a keeper of this calibre since seaman (Lehmann some would argue but i think Seaman was better in the day).

I really believe even without other signings that Cech with his command presence and overall ability will help tenfold. We seem to be the team that has to be a goal behind before we kick into gear imo, and I believe if we didn't concede that 1st goal and get into gear we would gain a lot more points. I think Cech would make that difference over a season.

So to get to the point we drop to many points on draws because we start utter rubbish but Cech's command of defence and shot stopping could stop that goal and lead us to win the game instead of draw it so ultimately 3 points instead of 1. add that up over the season and its probably closer to 15 points and owe noes Morinho were closer then you wanted lol

23 Jun 2015 11:20:48
I think Arsene is happy with Theo Danny and Olly if he can't get a very top player like Benzema, Petr Cech 15 points thing that's 5 games we would have lost but go on to win instead with Ospina in goal? That's a lot because of course Cech is a massive upgrade but Ospina wasn't a bad keeper at all just not an acceptional keeper like Cech is

22 Jun 2015 19:44:43
Just recently stumbled upon the banter side and have been reading it for two week straight now.
I want to get in on that action.

22 Jun 2015 20:10:08
Welcome to the madhouse VG :)

J

22 Jun 2015 20:16:54
Welcome onboard mate

22 Jun 2015 21:14:21
welcome aboard mate.

22 Jun 2015 22:20:56
Welcome Viennese .. Try not get dunked by a United fan ...

22 Jun 2015 23:17:34
Welcome Viennese - if in doubt about giving your opinion give it a whirl!COYG

22 Jun 2015 23:51:42
thanks mates
Your welcome is well appreciated
Looking forward to some great banter
Sorry eds I got confussed
It's my first day give me time

{Ed007's Note - Don't worry about it mate, welcome aboard.}

22 Jun 2015 17:12:38
Stoner,

Love the avatar pic, who is it? I am really am not being facetious. Just wondering who it was of?

And if I manage to sort out a drink with Dags, G62 and other, I hope you would be willing to attend?

J

22 Jun 2015 18:05:45
Better not tell him I'm invited :)

22 Jun 2015 19:52:54
Chris,

Jinkent can walk in pub 1st.
G62 2nd.
Me 3rd.
You can be 4th.

That ok mate? :-)

22 Jun 2015 20:16:11
Chris I am sure we can all get on in the real world for a day.

Stoner and I have chatted before I ever met you on here and I think (hope) he knows I am just an old fashioned gent, happy to meet friends for a laugh and a drink.

I am a people person, especially to all those personable to me.

And Stoner and I used to have long chats about our Arsenal, with me always trying to see the positive even when they were tough to defend.

:)

22 Jun 2015 20:19:24
Sounds good to me Dags although CTR may have to suffer the indignity of pay off round first :-)

22 Jun 2015 20:21:41
It's the lovely Mrs Sanchez mate, not sure what she sees in him when she could have Chris.

Would be good to get up there if I can sort it J, besides ,Chris is dying to meet me.

Sounds like Cech is done, now for a few more then were up for a quality season.

I was disappointed with 3rd as 2nd at the end was up for grabs and barriers like that need to be knocked down if you're aiming for the big prize.

Ps it would be good to meet you Chris. :-) I'm not scary like Malaga.

22 Jun 2015 21:21:36
G62. I would like the honour of the first round please. :)

Stoner. It would seem Sanchez and his arrival has been of benefit on so many levels.

I think if we can add a cdm, Carvalho or either if the Bender Bristol and add a pack powerful forward who has good feet, or if not great feet then good pace strength and finishing and I honestly believe we are ready to roll.

I like the idea of Benzema or Higuain, although have no idea if either is possible.

Jackson Martinez has scored goals for fun but one of the other two would be my preference.

I think we might be OK at cb with Chambers, Gabriel and Koscielny but if we could get Carvalho, he can play cb and then I would be happier.

Lastly, an area that not many speak about. But left back.

There is a real talent around in the 16-20m bracket.

My preference would Jose Louis Gaya. The boy looks very impressive indeed. Watched a lit of him last season on TV.

I think he and Bellerby could be the future Spanish 1st team for years to come. And having them playing together for us would be a real coup.

If nor Lucks Digne. He would be tougher to get.

Excited to say the least!

And I am sure Chris would enjoy meeting us all, and we him.

I know I would enjoy putting faces to you all. :)

J

{Ed025's Note - it would frighten the life out of me JK.. :)

22 Jun 2015 22:19:04
Which bit ED025.

Or are we remarking on my many typos using a touch keyboard on a mobile phone. :)

J

{Ed025's Note - meeting that lot JK...It would be like the adams family reunion.. :)

22 Jun 2015 22:20:37
Oh.

Putting games to it all. I see now. Perhaps I am just the eternal optimist.

:)

J

22 Jun 2015 23:07:00
Oy uncle fester (Ed025:-) what's all this they business! I hope you'll be joining us I hope, all the kebabs you can eat and as much southern comfort as you care for mate.
Seriously mate if you could make it that would be really brilliant

{Ed025's Note - i would love to G62, as soon as im free to visit the smoke i will arrange to meet up and have a pint or 28 mate..

22 Jun 2015 23:26:21
Im pretty sure I speak for everyone in saying it would be an absolute pleasure to buy you a pint mate, we are lucky enough to have the best page on the best site and an awful lot of that is down to you Ed mate, OK Ed001 might have played some small part somewhere as well I suppose :-)

{Ed025's Note - cheers mate..

22 Jun 2015 13:43:15
Check Imbula off the Arsenal target list. He's off to Spain.

22 Jun 2015 13:52:13
That would be a shame.

J

22 Jun 2015 10:40:22
Eds,

Could you re-post the below again for me please. I wanted to make sure Honey Badger and CTR saw it (the comments about the Man U team the season ahead) and that the both the Gooner Mancs :D and the Gooners on here saw the bit about getting together to get everyones thoughts.

Thanks

J

21 Jun 2015 20:28:55
(banter please Eds)

G62.

This sounds like something that might be growing legs.

When would be best to maybe do it. After the season has started, or before it starts anew?

And I would be happy to accept a drink or two in return, Thank you.

Let me see when I might be able to get a weekend day free.

I'll update everyone then and see who is up for it.

Badger, let the banter commence and looking forward to some agreeing to disagreeing, or who knows, maybe agreeing once or twice. ;)

The fun is in the enjoyment that the banter creates.

G62, Dags, I think I am going to be back a little more this year, the Mancs migrating looks like a good year ahead.

Respect to one and all.

J

JinKent

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21 Jun 2015 20:41:42
(banter please Eds)

Badger, I agree about the nouveau rich needing to be put back in the box.

If Cech is allowed to leave to Arsenal by Agronomic then he has shown some real class by keeping his promise. He will have earned my respect.

The gutter snipe Mourinho, a completely different view. A winner he may well be, but class he will never have. He is solely focused on himself, and how he is seen.

As you may have got, I dislike him intensely. I have come across a few similar in business.

A word on your team. I think Man U will be a very different team next season. Van Haal is a strong and very good manager. He will recruit well, have the team playing his formation and tactics. I think Depay could be a real talent. He and a second season Di Maria are a frighteningly scarey prospect. I think RVP needs to go. If I was you I would swap Rooney for Cavani, then go get a Defensive midfielder such as Schneiderlin, and Gooners I think we need Carvalho not Schneiderlin. I think we need a second Coquelin, the rest of our midfield is fantastic.

A centre back or two and a new right back and your talking.

Anyway, time will tell and it is only my initial opinion. :)

22 Jun 2015 11:07:10
Jin I'm away just for a couple of weeks in the run up to the season so soon into it would suit me best mate if that's OK with everyone else, fist week in October might be good if CTR Honey Rosie etc are thinking of joining us, OK we probably won't all get tickets for the game but I'm sure those who can't could watch the game in a local pub and those who can could join up after the game , just an idea Everyone?

22 Jun 2015 11:36:59
Sounds like a good idea.

Gives everyone a chance to plan and get agreement from those they must (for me, that would be the wife).

J

22 Jun 2015 13:19:52
So people are on about meeting up for drinks right? I'll only come if Malaga comes too :)

Let me know if u need any idea's as I know a few people that hire out bar rooms complete with bar and bbq area etc and do so at a very good price too.

22 Jun 2015 13:28:03
I take it you're not coming then Chris :)? Oh well, I guess I will have to put away my shotgun for now :(

22 Jun 2015 13:51:18
Chris.

Could such places show the game if we wanted so we could all watch the game together?

That might be quite interesting.

J

22 Jun 2015 15:32:50
Yes mate they do.

Rue, if u ever met me u would realise what a nice guy I really am, salt of the earth me :)

I just know a few people that would interest Malaga :) plus kfc is round the corner to satisfy his munchies :)

22 Jun 2015 15:41:20
Hey J,

Good to see you back posting mate, sounds like life is good, looking forward to the new season and some of our patience paying off.

The team is actually looking in great shape and whatever additions Wenger makes it will only make us stronger. :-)

22 Jun 2015 16:01:43
Glad to see you back to Stoner.

Hopefully you will be less of a stranger this season like I am trying to be.

We look like we are in better shape than for some time, hopefully with improvements to come.

Let's hope we continue to buy class, but astutely, as we have done the last few seasons.

I am really looking forward to seeing Mezut this coming season. I think it could be very interesting indeed.

J

22 Jun 2015 08:57:34
A lot of people are shouting out for a new centre back to replace merts. Per comes in for a lot of unfair criticism on here, but the reality is, he brings composure and organisation to our back four, before he came i our defence was a mess for years. Since his arrival we've consistently had one of top three defences in the league, obviously the coming of age of koscienly has also helped, but the transformation of koscielny probably had a lot to do with the arrival of Merts

22 Jun 2015 09:34:56
Totally agree saint, a cb is not needed and to buy someone of merts standards or better will cost stupid money as there all tied down by contracts as long as your arm.

22 Jun 2015 09:37:32
Saint I can't think of any player we have ever had who was more deserving of criticism mate, Stoke and Liverpool episodes have never been explained or apologised for so how do we know he won't duck out of a title costing headed clearance next season mate?
Even his biggest fans have to admit that is totally unacceptable surely.

{Ed001's Note - I don't understand the suggestion that he has raised Koscielny up a level, when Koscielny was excellent long before Mertesacker signed. It is hard to see how playing alongside Mertesacker has brought it out of him, it was already there.}

22 Jun 2015 11:11:45
Me neither Ed, I also don't understand why the blokes not accountable for anything, Giroud should be so lucky

{Ed001's Note - that is a good point, Giroud does seem to be the whipping boy, while Mertesacker seems to get away with a fair bit. It is odd how certain players are targets.}

22 Jun 2015 11:29:02
I feel slightly vindicated gold c after the "someone of merts standards " considering the badgering of previous post on quality CB's.

Mert has his decent moments but on the whole is a complete and utter liability he has no technical ability whatsoever.

Do you see what he's like when he gets ball in loads of space. He has the turning circle of a bus and can't even touch the ball with his weaker foot.

He's good in the air whoopsie doo. Hope Gabriel steps up

22 Jun 2015 06:50:08
Best Arsenall 11:
Seaman
Anderson Campbell Adams Cole
Overmars Vieira Brady Pires
Bergkamp Henry

22 Jun 2015 09:07:13
Viv Anderson instead of Lee Dixon?

What you smoking Robbie?

22 Jun 2015 09:42:28
No champagne Charlie or Willie Young :-)

22 Jun 2015 10:02:43
It's early days but wouldn't sanchez get in there?

23 Jun 2015 08:18:57
Kenny Sansom???