Arsenal Banter Archive March 22 2017

 

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22 Mar 2017 18:36:05
Thoughts and prayers go to all the people effected by the terrible event in London.

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22 Mar 2017 19:53:11
Yes definitely. Horrible world at times.

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22 Mar 2017 20:46:20
I echo that sentiment.

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22 Mar 2017 22:00:34
Prayers to the people affected. It's sad and hard to believe that it's 2017 and humans haven't evolved yet.

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23 Mar 2017 00:04:09
Yes it's horrible, I didn't even like the banners but this is pure evil. No place in our club. Let's hope and pray for the people caught up in all this.

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23 Mar 2017 08:53:30
Sad and terrible times people and such bravery shown by our police, emergency services and the public who were there.

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23 Mar 2017 09:15:30
Couldn't agree more, an odious excuse of a human being does this in the name of what?

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23 Mar 2017 09:25:48
I've got to join in with these sentiments.
After yesterday's events it puts thing into perspective.
One minute we are moaning about the performance of a football team then this. It's a sad sad World I'm afraid.
It's unfortunate but the fact is that we have all got to be vigilant wherever we are and that applies to football matches too. These sub-humans have no barriers.

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23 Mar 2017 13:55:32
Thank goodness we have wonderful people on this earth who run towards danger when it rears its ugly head. Always thankful to these people but as someone who works only 2 stations away from where it happened yesterday, and a regular walker across London bridges, I am even more respectful and thankful to them all today.

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22 Mar 2017 18:19:48
Sorry, if this has been asked already too much but I'm slightly unclear - are we now fully expecting Wenger to sign for at least another season? I'm not sure I can emotionally do it.

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{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

22 Mar 2017 18:03:01
Hi ED002. Just curious, which team do u support?

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - I am nominally a Chelsea supporter.}

22 Mar 2017 18:57:33
For this year only eh Ed x.

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{Ed002's Note - There have been other years I supported them as well.}

23 Mar 2017 09:52:42
Question then. Sanchez or hazard?

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22 Mar 2017 11:34:14
I understand that Wenger may have signed a new 2 year deal. If this is the case, we must get behind him and the team.

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22 Mar 2017 15:36:20
I understand if he has signed, it would have to be announced. So not true. I do stand corrected if not.

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22 Mar 2017 15:57:01
I personally would try my best to get behind him. But let's be honest not everyone is going too do that.

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22 Mar 2017 16:21:22
D16 I agree

I will get behind him I'd be more angry with the board.

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22 Mar 2017 16:34:20
You just can't see him staying there's some horrible games coming up. Starting with man city. This ain't ending well.

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22 Mar 2017 17:07:09
Well, I wouldn't get behind Wenger if he has signed on for two more years. If he has, it is self centred and not in the best interests of the club. I have said time and again on here how grateful I am for Arsene, how he should be treated with respect and dignity, but there is not a single good reason why he should be retained any longer. And don't give me the "be careful what you wish for" argument. All clubs change their manager and it doesn't mean none of them become successful again. Witness Chelsea just for an obvious and simple example.
It's not just Arsene that needs changing, of course. The players need to recognise their responsibilities, as does the Board and the major shareholder/ owner.

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22 Mar 2017 17:22:26
Banbury agree with you there. Sadly not everyone will. However surely the board can see its just not working and as with this season any slip up with arsene a lot of fans will be staight on his back.

Also agree with derby. going to be even tougher to keep him after the next few games if it goes wrong.

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22 Mar 2017 18:58:51
I know 16 AW won't be going I'm sure if that . The board are happy with profit being the trophy.

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22 Mar 2017 19:05:40
Max! We Don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes! What if they can't get target X, Y and Z? Are we going to have an interim manager a caretaker or someone who isn't up for the job until the right man is available?

There's a few managers I would like! Allegri, tuchel, jardim, sampoili! If these ain't available in the summer and are in a years time then stick with Wenger! If he's staying then that's because the right man isn't there not because he's self centered!

But if that man isn't there then I blame the board and it's poor from upstairs! To be fair max I like your posts and this is the first one that I disagree with. I want change but it can't be knee jerk stuff matey.

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22 Mar 2017 19:55:44
Max, the fans will get behind someone they trust. I think a lot of fans don't trust wenger and wont. Just my opinion.

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22 Mar 2017 21:07:31
Each to their own Sanogo, and I respect your posts, but knee-jerk this ain't. I've been longing for Arsene to go for two years now. Sadly.

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23 Mar 2017 00:08:40
No max I agree I want him gone but a what price? Surely people can't think that anyone else but Wenger is a smart move. It has to be someone decent surely.

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23 Mar 2017 09:55:28
The whole we can't get a world class manager argument for me is silly. Im hearing wenger been offered 10million a year may be wrong. But offer that to allegri he will come imo.

If he hasn't signed by man city game I think he's gone. Any truth in fact there's been a huge fall out. Gazidis dick law etc. Seems to be friction behind the scenes.

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23 Mar 2017 19:03:52
I haven't seen anyone suggesting that any manager would be better than Wenger, and you can hardly call the fans wanting a fresh start tactically after 5 years of watching us play like boys against men in most of the big games in the last 5 years a knee jerk reaction!
There are 5 or 6 very good candidates for the job that would in my opinion get at least some of our less effective players performing at a far greater level than Wenger ever will again and that's even before you add fresh players to the mix, if you were to offer the amount that the board are purportedly putting on the table for Wenger to sign again you can't tell me even our 1st or 2nd choice wouldn't jump at the chance.

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22 Mar 2017 10:01:07
The Metro isn't usually shy in printing totally fabricated stories.
So when even it starts covering itself by adding the word "reportedly" to it's stories it says everything about the how much rubbish the media are publishing about Arsene's future right now and how they haven't got anymore idea than us about what's really going on behind the scenes at Arsenal right now.

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22 Mar 2017 10:27:52
What are your thoughts on this 62 mate?

A statement made by Stan Kroenke in March 2016 in the US. "If you want to win championships then you would never get involved. I think the best owners in sports are the guys that sort of watch both sides a bit."

The headline read: "Stan Kroenke: I didn't buy Arsenal stake to win trophies".

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22 Mar 2017 16:40:08
We need stan gone iv said it from day one.

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22 Mar 2017 19:36:53
Hi Stoner mate, I'm not sure i totally understand the first bit fully about not getting involved but obviously if he did indeed actually state "i didn't buy Arsenal to win trophies" then that's​ absolutely not acceptable no matter how he meant it.

But regardless of anything he has said or his personal feelings i still don't see what he has done to prevent Arsene making us competitive, in Arsene's​ own words he has never been denied anything he's asked for by the ckub.

What more could any owner be it me you or anyone else do to help Arsene deliver all he wanted to other than back him 100% exactly​ as Stan and the club have done.

If Arsene removes himself from the equation then the Stan debate becomes relevant, but as we stand other than sacking Arsene, i still fail to see how it's Stan who's prevented us being competitive mate.

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22 Mar 2017 23:12:32
Hi 62,

I'm not saying Wenger is not at fault but more that if Kroenke isn't striving for us to challenge and win things then that's what allows this situation to continue.

Wenger only needs to do what he's doing and no more regardless of whether he has it in him to actually achieve more which more and more of us now believe he doesn't.

I just want an owner, like Abramovic, who wants and demands success and actually loves football.

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23 Mar 2017 09:41:34
Hi Stoner mate
For me almost the entire club is stuck in near enough is good enough low ambition top 4 mentality from owner to chairman to board to manager to the vast majority of the players to 50% of the fans who are happy as long as Arsene is our manager.

I've heard excuses about the owner to naughty the stadium to the worst luck with injuries in the league to sugar daddy owners bank rolling opponents, some people have even tried to use the champions league participation as a reason as to why we come up short each and every season.

just because Chelsea are walking the league without being in Europe this season but they conveniently forget that 2 seasons back Chelsea walked the league while also going the furthest of any English club in the champions league and wining the league cup at the same time, i just don't want to recycle the whole excuse thing for much more than it was ever worth starting with Stan all over again.

I'm not saying everything apart from Arsene is perfect but i do truly think things will never start to improve while Arsene is our manager (sadly).

Ozil Sanchez are going to follow other players who just weren't happy with going through the motions with us out of the Arsenal door and will most likely find success with their next club that wasn't ever going to happen with us like RVP and fabregas and co did leaving us with an even higher % of players who aren't that fused about ambition.

It really is a sad state for our club to be reach in the first place let alone be looking for yet more of the same for another year or two at least.
I'm tired of the excuses mate and I'm desperate for some real accountability to be restored at Arsenal football club again rather than be a dirty word no one likes to mention incase it offends the members of the Arsenal cosy club.

Football should be all about excitement not excuses and i can see no sign of anything​ to be excited about at Arsenal right now and I'm desperate for that to change mate.

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