Arsenal Banter Archive November 22 2015

 

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22 Nov 2015 21:29:13
Think it's time chambers should get a bit of game time. The lad is like Ramsey, i.e. coq needs a bit of confidence, to get his arsenal career going. he is only 20, not the quickest, but a defender could be like drier, but better. i think we need to get Ramsey back in the middle of the park for his energy.

i think carzola needs to recharge his batteries and have a rest. The team for next couple of games. cech, bellerin, kos, gab, monreal, Ramsey, chambers, ox, ozil, Sanchez, giroud. hopefully welbeck, Walcott, Wilshire will be back soon. then Sanchez can get a breather. i think we will go on a run now. we could do it, win the title.

We should buy a top quality holding mid in January transfer window. i'd change the captain. the arm band has been passed around a lot in the last few years. it's time to give it to Sanchez, or Ramsey. bit of quality that will be with arsenal for a good few years that have energy, workrate and passion. what does anyone else think of the captain situation?

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22 Nov 2015 22:38:23
Agree about Chambers.
He's young, fit and athletic.
Stick him in the middle as a DM. Just sit him in front of the back 4.

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22 Nov 2015 22:58:47
Chambers is out of his depth, he will only start as a complete last resort IMO.

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22 Nov 2015 23:07:04
Bambam,
Due to a lack of fit players, Flamini apart, we might not have too much choice for DM.

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23 Nov 2015 03:55:26
Id have Flamini over Chambers at the moment i'm afraid.

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22 Nov 2015 21:23:34
My opinion, but i think flamini will replace coq and arteta and will do an ok job. Wenger won't pull any rabbits out of the hat and try something different. His judgement is we have the cover, we will see whether we have. The next few games aren't galactic o's but then neither was Saturdays and we came unstuck. Bumpy ride coming up would be made easier with walcott and ramsey back and any other crock as well.

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22 Nov 2015 21:41:16
Flamini will play in place of Le Coq I agree Steve but regards replacing him its like being offord a 30 year ford escort while your Rollers being serviced mate.

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22 Nov 2015 18:02:29
Come on Gent's, chin up.

victories against Norwich, Sunderland and Villa, and this page will be as happy as Larry.
Plus, it will set us up nicely for the City game.

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22 Nov 2015 18:14:26
Nice one Dags, some much needed positivity :-)

So Le Coq is now injured. It's now time for someone else to take the mantle - just like Le Coq did last year when he returned from a loan at Charlton. I'd rather we try this again than playing Flam Flam.

Time for Bielik or Niels-Matlin? Are there any others that we have to play holding midfield? And before it's said, I agree that we should have signed someone in the summer and we should never be in this position (for whatever reason. )

Failing that, we can convert Cazorla to a holding midfielder and have Wilshere on crutches partnering him LOL!

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22 Nov 2015 18:55:25
Chambers is one option, he seems to have the attributes to fulfill the role but inexperience may inhibit his overall effect. This would be my primary choice though as it maintains balance of formation and allocation of midfield duties as opposed to playing someone else out of position.

Speaking of which, Ramsey could do a good job in the role if he is disciplined but that sacrifices some of the biggest assets he brings to the team.

Bielik could be given a chance although he has been playing predominantly at Centre Back for the youth team and it seems the coaching staff view that as his best long term position.

And of course, there is Flamini who is supposedly a specialist holding midfielder but at the moment seems to preoccupied playing the role of business mogul.

An injury to Le Coq was the biggest threat to our season, now we need to dig deep, figuratively and literally in the squad to find solutions. It will ultimately depend on the chemistry between a deep midfield duo to combat the castration. It will certainly be interesting and most importantly will force Wenger's hand in the transfer market. Hopefully Wanyama is incoming.

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22 Nov 2015 19:13:38
Bielik I really really like.

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22 Nov 2015 19:14:06
Le Coq absence is going to hurt us every bit as losing Cech Kos Ozil and Sanchez, he's one of our players who even with an otherwise fully fit squad we struggle to cope without.
January :-) you don't need mystic Meg to tell you what Arsene will be saying about players close to a return and how we don't need to buy in January and even if we did there would be no players available, well apart from those city utd spurs Chelsea and Liverpool some how find that is.

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22 Nov 2015 19:38:43
That is a big worry g62, although I have more optimism for this January. With the expected summer departures of Messrs Flamini, Arteta and Rosicky, signings will be essential, presuming there aren't multiple breakthroughs from the youth team.

Wenger doesn't like making too many signings in one window for fear of squad disruption so at least one Jan addition seems logical to me. Much like the Monreal and Gabriel arrivals, where they are gradually integrated and ready to hit the ground running at the start of next season. I'd be surprised if a DM isn't acquired in Jan, especially as there is known interest in a few candidates.

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22 Nov 2015 20:16:15
How anyone could still be surprised if/when we don't sign anyone is beyond me.
I'm sorry but Wenger the board the hotdog seller i don't know or care who's at fault anymore, but i do know that Arsenal have dropped the all on so many occasions in the last 3 years that we are fast becoming a joke.
We could have signed just 2 to 4 more players in those 3 years that would have on at least one occasion got us very close to being on top at the end of a season.

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22 Nov 2015 20:36:33
Surprise emanates from the present set of circumstaces and the need to recruit due to the impending loss of three, albeit expendable, squad players. It doesn't depend on previous shrewdness in altered equations.

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22 Nov 2015 20:43:22
Hope your right Lose mate but based on Arsenes past record I'm expecting another quite window with much talk of returning players being like new signings, as we sign Jack Wilshere every January :-)
I'm hoping to hold my hands up in amazement and happiness on being wrong.

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22 Nov 2015 17:43:24
Dags I hope you and the rest of the league are taking note of this side. We are the best team in the country right now and thatlump of wet clay called harry Kane has bagged another 2goals again lol.

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{Ed025's Note - credit where its due raver, you were excellent today mate..

22 Nov 2015 17:56:34
credit where its due quaver, but you are still a long way from being as good as us.

But, you are doing well mate, I make you the 2nd best team in North London mate lol.

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22 Nov 2015 19:11:11
Raver you are set for a fine season. I hope we beat you in the Europa final lol.

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22 Nov 2015 19:54:38
Credit where it's due raver spurs look the real deal mauriccciou potttttenicino has ye playing class. Oh and as for kane wow have to say it's always nice to see a goon do well too.

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22 Nov 2015 17:12:32
Anyone still not rate Harry Kane? No. Thought not.

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{Ed025's Note - i do derby..hes not lukaku but hes very good.. :)

22 Nov 2015 17:27:14
Anyone think under Poch Tottenham ain't going to make life a little less comfortable for us and a lot less accepting of their natural place.

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22 Nov 2015 19:04:47
He is a great manager and annoyingly at Tottenham. things are looking really promising for them at the moment and they seem on the cusp of something special.

However, as always, in true Tottenham style, I'm confident they'll find a way of totally screwing it up, sliding down the divisions and eventually into liquidation. The bubble will burst and the Cockerel will be roasted.

For now though, it is slightly concerning.

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22 Nov 2015 19:10:46
There a real threat. I honestly believe that have got it right. He's an excellent manager.

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22 Nov 2015 19:15:07
Eds lakuku could be up there. I question his drive at times tho. Kane on the other hand. Top top pro.

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{Ed025's Note - i would not swap lukaku for kane myself derby, i really like kane but i feel lukaku has a better all round game mate..

22 Nov 2015 11:04:00
Arsene has gambled and lost on our squad strength in depth, we all know the players who should no longer be at the club so its pointless to keep naming them.
Our record on injuries is among if not the worst in the league so to once again go into a season without quality strength in depth is amazing.
We obviously have a problem somewhere to get so many long term injuries each and every season and its equally obvious no one is sure why or they'd fix it but until we come up with the answer we need more quality players than our title rivals not less.
Chelsea won the title last season using the least players of any team which is great if you can do it, unfortunately for us we can't so need to accept this and adapt.

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22 Nov 2015 12:46:51
Has he gambled or misread again the vulnerability of the squad again. He knows there is quality in the squad, but he also know the unreliability of the squad. Plus he has no youth that he can draft in or have faith in and that used to be a strength, no more. I think you are being kind when you say gambled, he has misread and mis managed badly.

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22 Nov 2015 12:52:28
Two seasons ago when maureen came in fergie had left and man city had gone, he misread badly at xmas what was needed and everybody knew the title was a possibility, he failed badly not bolstering the creaky defence. I've said it before he is too old and long in the tooth now, his judgement is poor. Struggling in a group in cl we should be getting out of and now struggling to get wins in the prem through varying reasons and mistakes.

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22 Nov 2015 13:09:22
Not sure its a gamble as he does it every year . how often do we say so and so will be a like a new signing when he returns.

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22 Nov 2015 15:26:00
I think Arsene worries more about what if we don't get any injuries and how to keep top players happy who don't start games than he does about how we cope with injuries
As things stand if he ever has a fully fit sqaud to chose from the starting 11 and the 3 who come off the bench isn't to much of a problem for him and that's why the gap between the first 14 and the rest really suits him.
I'm not saying I agree with him at all but just my thoughts on why we don't have quality strength in depth and retain older players on big wages.

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22 Nov 2015 10:27:57
In the absence of Coquelin, I would prefer that we try Chambers in his role. It was obvious that we needed a couple of defensive midfield players in the last window. Arteta spent most of last season out injured and it looks likely that the same will happen again this season. Flamini simply isn't good enough and it was time to let Rosicky depart.
In the next window we must sign at least one defensive midfield player.
The clearout in the summer should be:
Ospina - possibly bring back Szczesny as cover for Cech
Debuchy - At his age he needs to play regularly and Bellerin is way ahead of him. We could bring back Jenkinson as cover.
Mertesacker - I love him to bits, but he can be caught out. We should sign a young quality replacement. I would love to see us make a huge effort to sign Stones from Everton.
Arteta, Flamini and Rosicky need to go
Campbell -Simply not good enough.
We should make every effort to sign Tielemans from Anderlecht. Wanyama from Southampton would be another useful aquistion, particularly for the more physical premier league matches against the likes of WBA.
I am still not convinced by Monreal, despite him performing well this season.
If we are to compete at the highest level, we must make the changes mentioned or be satisfied with 4th place in th PL and the last 16 of the CL.

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22 Nov 2015 11:25:42
But we are talking about this in November. It's depressing it really is. The summer is ages away. Massive mis management. And anyone who says injuries are unlucky etc well we could see by looking at previous years this would happen. It pains me.

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22 Nov 2015 11:53:13
It needs to be belt and braces or forget ever being champions given our seemingly unsolvable injury problems, if anyone is shocked or by our injuries their either new to football or naive.

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22 Nov 2015 21:12:26
Why would you get rid of monreal.

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22 Nov 2015 09:42:48
I work in the Manufacturing business and at the end of the year I sit down with my Production Manager to look at next years targets and budget. We look at current performance and efficiency in the plant and identify we have 3 machines causing concern. 2 are prone to intermittent or long term breakdowns and the other is inefficient but able to cover some of our requirements some of the time. I tell the PM that to meet our targets these machines likely need to be replaced and I am prepared to budget for him to replace them with new. He considers this then tells me he believes he can get by with what he has got and can raise the performance of the 3 machines in question. I tell him again the money is available to spend. He declines and I remind him that targets have to be met.
At our mid year review we are falling short of targets and the reasons are mainly down to the same 3 problematic machines. it is difficult to replace with the right machines in time mid year to recover the situation. It is very likely we will fall short of our targets short of some minor miracle that other machines can compensate for the 3 failing units by upping their workload and increasing risking breakdowns with them.
Fast forward to year end and failure to meet targets and both the PM and myself are under scrutiny for poor management of resources and performance.
The characters for us in this analogy are Arteta, Rosicky and Flamini. And the PM Wenger.
Mismanagement.

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{Ed025's Note - good post that sin..

22 Nov 2015 17:59:27
Good read Sin. Spot on.

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21 Nov 2015 23:33:31
From what happend to le coq I think he's done his medial ligemt. I had the same from the same situation. Could be wrong. At least 6weeks out more likely 8weeks like a.

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22 Nov 2015 07:49:02
Not looking good mate.
He's the one player we can't afford to lose.

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22 Nov 2015 08:22:26
Which is why we should have got Schneiderlin.

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22 Nov 2015 09:33:01
Banbury he thought the squad was strong enough which is hilarious. If of taken lassana diarra on a free at the very least. Flamini arteta should of gone and two coming in.

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22 Nov 2015 13:11:26
Comical seeing as we or most of us could see that

But of course as AW said . " There just aren't the players available "

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