Arsenal Banter Archive June 23 2015

23 Jun 2015 22:04:49
Next season expectancy levels will be sky high and understanding levels at there lowest levels for many yeaes, any player who is deemed to have let us down on the day will be held far more accountable because unlike the 4th place trophy chasing years the margins for era a much narrower when seriously contending a title.
Olly won't be able to miss as many gilt edged chances Jack Theo Keiren won't be afford the same patience and any stupidity that costs us points from any player will not be forgotten so quickly, next season really will be separation time for the men and the boys.
Oh and as for MerterDUCKER? He wouldn't dare complete his hatrick :-)

23 Jun 2015 22:46:21
g62 haven't thought about it that way but you got it spot on
Especially knowing that we gooners are quick to get fed up

23 Jun 2015 22:43:54
For the first time in many years, we don't just have 2 players for nearly every position, we have 2 GOOD players for nearly every position.

We are slightly light upfront, hence my call for Charlie Austin.

I'm actually going to try to mention Charlie Austin in every post.

Well, at least until Ed025 bans me :-)

{Ed025's Note - thats on the cards dags.. :)

23 Jun 2015 23:09:39
And as for Remy he's just soooooo last year ;-)

23 Jun 2015 23:20:08
Expectations were pretty high last summer if I remember rightly, that went out the window when we went in to the season with half a CB. Still need a top striker I feel and I don't really see many we could get. I think we would over achieve to win with giroud

24 Jun 2015 00:20:36
If we got charlie austin I think id turn into a right moaner.

24 Jun 2015 07:38:03
If we signed Charlie Austen I'd seriously question our obsession with regaining the 4th place trophy.
The man's got Stoke Newcastle spuds written all over him.

24 Jun 2015 08:16:19
Blimey Steve, we must have secretly signed Charlie Austin about 2 years ago than mate :-)

23 Jun 2015 20:42:02
So the Cech transfer/rumour kicked off a intresting keeper debate.
Last great goalkeeper for us was good old Jens
I'd rather keep Ospina over Scez
Yes Scez has more potantial but I do give him that easy argument he can not ride on that (similar to Whilshere) he has to show that he can perform on a regular basis
Ospina is proven and would make a great number 2 behind Cech and you know what you get if you eventually have to play him
Ideal for me would be keeping Ospina as a number 2 and loaning Scez
By the way why didn't my fellow Austrian Manninger make it?
I was 6 when he ended his Arsenal career in 2002
But in 39 games he kept 18 cleansheet which is quite impressive
Cheers mates

23 Jun 2015 20:57:57
If I remember correctly, manninger came in when seaman was injured, but was then dropped when seaman was fit again, he didn't like it, chucked his toys out the pram then went on loan.
While on loan he told everyone he was never returning back to us.

23 Jun 2015 21:17:37
I think MgM got it spot on.

If memory serves me correct, his nose got put slightly out of joint when we signed Richard Wright from Ipswich, thus making Manninger 3rd choice behind Seaman and Wright.

In fairness, a decent keeper.

23 Jun 2015 21:41:28
If rumours are true we got cech for 11 mil and selling ospina for 7 mil. Good business, ospina very good keeper can't knock him but he didn't look like he was world class. I think shez still might go yet and martinez second choice. We could get 6 or 7 for him, don't see him better than martinez myself.

23 Jun 2015 21:51:11
Think the thinking behind selling Ospina and keeping Szczesny, is that Szczesny does/ will qualify as homegrown.

He either does already or will do if the rumoured rule changes take effect. I guess I agree with this as you don't want to waste a non HG spot on a back up goalie especially. Just hopefully he can learn from Cech and grow up!

23 Jun 2015 22:26:09
Gutted if ospina leaves.....goal kicks will never be the same :(

23 Jun 2015 22:44:11
I guess that makes sense
We Austrians tend to get very angry when we don't get what we want be it a place at University of arts or being first choice

23 Jun 2015 22:47:11
Agree Jegooner.

C E C H H H H H H H H H doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

Charlie Austinnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

That sounds good though.

23 Jun 2015 23:17:34
I imagine Ospina himself will want to leave, can't blame him for not wanting to spending 3 or 4 seasons on the bench..

23 Jun 2015 20:17:39
I don't feel too bad about Ospina leaving if it's true, to be honest. He had some good saves but he's got the same issue where he comes to punch and totally goes tits up.

Similarly while his reflexes are good, he seems to do this weird thing where he dives over the ball or let's his wrists bend and it goes in anyway. It sometimes strikes me that for a keeper who did everything right (e.g. positioning and the dive) he would just let them in anyway.

Can't quite figure him out but I think Szczesny still had the potential to improve and regardless, Cech is a massive upgrade on both. If it happens, happy days, and good luck to Ospina but no big loss.

23 Jun 2015 20:33:13
Bit harsh that wire even if pretty much accurate mate, I never felt he was a safe keeper just better than Szczesney at this time.
Good shot stopper but always seemed to parry the ball back into a dangerous position, although his record was quite good I don't think he would have been able to sustain it over a season and certainly not season after season.
Good luck to the man hope he does well in Turkey.

23 Jun 2015 21:36:40
Wire.

Congrats, most puzzling post of the year.

And I suppose Messi has dodgy toenails and square kneecaps.

And Ronaldo has a hairy belly button, thus enabling both of them to be crap?

23 Jun 2015 20:00:13
Confirmed.

Cech to us for £10.9m.

Happy Dags.

23 Jun 2015 20:08:20
Confirmed, by?

{Ed025's Note - its on sly mate..

23 Jun 2015 20:10:06
Yup, its on sky..

23 Jun 2015 17:35:39
Who thinks next season is going to be a defining one for Chambo? He'll surely be our Hazard in a couple of years. He's got everything but the composure to pick the final pass or score and that will come only with game time. But if he was to play who would be dropped? Rambo? Walcott/ Giroud/ Cazorla?

{Ed025's Note - comparing him to hazard makes you sound a bit silly imo climber..

23 Jun 2015 20:40:10
His defining season for me was last season, before getting injured he was 2nd only to Sanchez and the big difference between the Ox and Jack and Theo is he's done it weeek after week after week already, the boys the real deal which is why chelsea wanted him
If you read their page and most other pages its the Ox every one wants and rates the highest of all our home grown/ younger players.

24 Jun 2015 06:41:25
I meant in terms of being a dribble-happy forward, Ed, nothing else. What Hazard did to us in Stamford Bridge for the penalty, Chambo did to Manchester United at OT.

G62. But if he's to have his spot, who would be dropped?

24 Jun 2015 11:27:47
I'd drop Ramsey. Love the boy but out wide the ox is better, and he's not a dm and he's no cazorla so unfortunately place for him in the line up

24 Jun 2015 17:20:34
the ox won't be much good if he can't play (injuries) i have a bad feeling he could end up diaby mach 2

23 Jun 2015 12:06:00
Liverpool could do with a keeper as either an upgrade or competition for Mingulay
Southampton need a keeper to replace Forstser while he's out
Utd need to look at a replacement for De Gea
But not one mention of Ospina to any of them that I've seen, I'm not dissing him because he did ok for us but I do think we rated him a little to highly because we were comparing him to Szczesney.
I wish Ospina every success where ever he goes but its where that ends up being that will say a lot about how good he really was for us.

23 Jun 2015 13:22:16
In honesty until we hear it is official anything could happen. Yes Abramovich has said Cech can leave and yes ed02 has said it can be to Arsenal but haggling over a fee leaves a window of opportunity for other clubs to step in and get the deal done.

Southampton have signed a keeper, Stekelenburg, on loan, United will not be looking at Ospina and Liverpool have purchased Bogdan.

Ospina is rumoured to be going to Turkey, I think.

Wenger is fannying around about money, that is not what I want to see happening.

23 Jun 2015 13:37:36
well put G62, I have to agree I think he was a superb stop gap and that unfortunately for him is all he was and is.

Its been a very long time Since we have had an excellent keeper and I think unless you have one you cannot win the PL.

We will see a much better team next year with Cech and I believe wit his presence a much morestable defence and better organised also.

People knock our Shabby defence and say they are panicky, slow (merts) and tbh i would have to agree. But rio and JT were also slow and at times can make mistakes but because they have that GK they don't panic and I think because of this our defence will improve and we will see how world class our CB's actually are.

I personally think we have expected and blamed players like merts to much and you don't see the issues like that so much when he plays for Germany with Neur behind him, just a thought

23 Jun 2015 19:33:33
Sanchez can't speak english, he's not a captain type eother, no doubt he's a leader, but he's not a captain

22 Jun 2015 23:44:50
Maybe news is getting here slower but it's still only a rumour here that Cech will sign.
Remember the Higuain saga? He was here for sure but in the end he wasn't
Guys please let me know which English news paper I can trust or is the only real source Malaga?
He told me that there will be a insane switch in which we get Cech only to loan him immidiatly to Bayern and Neuer going the otherway
Keep the banter going

23 Jun 2015 07:56:05
I think the Cech story has much more creditbility than the Higuain one.

Personal terms agreed, clubs just need to fix a price

23 Jun 2015 07:58:24
To be fair we wanted th Higuain thing to be true so much we fed the rumours and each other, Since Mesut arrived and then Sanchez we have calmed down and become more objective.
For me Cech was always realistic because Ed002 has said for a time him joining us was doable and simple geography.
We are the only club other than chelseaa that allows him family stability plus champions league football

23 Jun 2015 10:13:22
Lol, got to give him 12/10 for orionality on that one. Ijust choked and wore my coffee reading that. Thanks poster that made my mornig =]

23 Jun 2015 10:41:54
to be fair malaga did say cech will move to arsenal in 2007 so he is right.

23 Jun 2015 11:07:07
He also predicted Sanchez would join us in 1997 spooky or what! I'm not sure he ment Alexis Sanchez but technically he's spot on again even if he was thinking of Hugo at the time :-)

23 Jun 2015 14:04:53
We will need to keep a record of Mystic Malagas' predictions!

23 Jun 2015 16:04:27
we could allways use the search function

23 Jun 2015 17:28:48
he was predicting transfers before the EPL was formed. so i doubt the search function will come up with anything.