Arsenal Banter Archive June 24 2017

 

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24 Jun 2017 23:44:35
Can anyone tell me how advanced we are in the lacaztte talks, thank you.

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25 Jun 2017 01:52:17
About 33.2% in to talks as we speak.

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25 Jun 2017 07:49:09
And as I've woke up I'm pleased to be able to inform you that it is now 36% ish.

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25 Jun 2017 08:29:12
Or 37.25 according to a rumour. 👍.

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24 Jun 2017 21:41:43
Who's this goretzka is he any good?

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24 Jun 2017 21:21:34
Really surprised we haven't been linked with a midfield destroyer, I mean a proper one. The central players we have at the moment are not good enough to win the league with. Coq and xhaka are good standbys but that is it. We need matuidi, he wouldrbe fantastic for us and give us the boss in the engine room all great teams have.

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24 Jun 2017 21:49:10
Personally I think Le Coq was brilliant until we tried to accommodate Xhaka within the team, he went about he job quite simply but brilliantly especially next to Carzola, if anything we need another Caz to play he next to Le Coq and have Xhaka as back up to Le Coq but not along side.

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24 Jun 2017 23:42:41
I agree and disagree with you in this one he would be an awsome siging for us but I think xhaka will have a great season I like him those two in the middle would be nice.

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24 Jun 2017 23:40:18
I like coq but he isn't going to take us to the next level.

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25 Jun 2017 06:55:11
In our new formation we need a balance in centre mid. at the end of the season we found it. Xhaka as the deep lying playmaker, Ramsey as a box to box midfielder who makes late runs into the box. We won 9 out of 10 games with them in there. So i'm happy to go with them next season. I reckon ramsey will start to score regularly again in this formation. If anything we need better replacements as elneny and coquelin while decent players don't have as much balance. With the europa league our replacements will be playing a lot so the squad needs to be complete.

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25 Jun 2017 08:59:20
Admittedly Steve Le Coq is no Kante but who is? Kante is the best of the best but Le Coq is very very good at breaking up play and makes fantastic interceptions which turn defence into attack quickly, he's happy to be part of the supporting cast and let others take star billing, all top teams need a few Clarke Kents as to many supermen spoil the broth.

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25 Jun 2017 09:34:57
Yes that's what I am saying gunner coq and xhaka are no better than supporting cast we need that lead actor to win the oscar. Matuidi, grab him, he only has a year on his psg contract.

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26 Jun 2017 14:31:21
Why do you want Matuidi when you're talking about getting a proper midfield destroyer? He's not a DM. He's a Ramsey-type player that cover's a lot of ground and get's into the oppositions box. He even plays as LM sometimes, albeit not very often.

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27 Jun 2017 22:40:47
Sg he is an holding midfielder that has been played all over, he is that good.

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24 Jun 2017 20:32:35
Is it just me or there are so many similarities between Herny the king and Mbappe ( such as runs and body language.
Would love to see him in an arsenal shirt but I highly doubt it we are able to compete with Real Madrid.

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24 Jun 2017 20:48:03
Not for me thanks.
I ďont think you can put a £100m price tag on an 18 year old who could just turn out to be a flash in the pan.

He (Or his agent) has already said he wants to be playing for Barcelona by the time he's 22.

Lacazette for me, all day long.

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24 Jun 2017 20:51:57
Agree. that's one of the reasons it would be a dream to have him here.

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24 Jun 2017 21:24:28
Yes and they are both french. Uncanny.

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24 Jun 2017 23:41:46
Dags yes but is lacazette the french charlie austin.

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25 Jun 2017 01:40:44
Nah Steve,
100 goals in 200 games speaks for itself mate.

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25 Jun 2017 02:50:15
I see your point dags, but I was talking more about body language and movement.
However I wouldn't mind having him in the team, yes he's 18 and maybe in the future he is looking to play for Barcelona or real but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have him.
IMO he has the pace and power we need up front since bentdner ops sorry I mean Henry.
And maybe in the future we can compete on all comps and then he decides to stay.
However, lacazette isn't a bad shout either.

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25 Jun 2017 06:58:38
Mbappe is a far superior player. This kid is the real deal. Don't worry about the money; just got and get him if you can. He will transform arsenal.

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25 Jun 2017 09:00:32
Dags, don't get hung up on stats for example Giroud has almost a 1 in 2 goal ratio for Montpellier and Balotelli almost goal a game for Nice both in the same league. There are many factors when signing players and we may not get either however I would question anyone's judgement that would rather have Lacazette. Sure Mbappe has an element of risk as he is so raw howevever I have not had the feelings of pure joy I get from watching him since watching Henry in his Arsenal days. If Arsenal really want to make a statement I would suggest Mbappe the hottest prospect in world football rather than Lacazette that barring Westham nobody else wants would be it. When I go to Wembley on the 13th of August I know who I want to pay to watch!

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{Ed001's Note - I have to agree with you Gooner, Mbappe is a level or two above Lacazette in terms of ability.}

25 Jun 2017 09:37:08
Lacazette is no upgrade on what we have, just different, mabappe is but he won't be coming here.

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24 Jun 2017 07:36:53
Just read Arsenal will have to get rid of several players to pay sanchez and ozil's wages as not to break premier league rules. The 1st name on the list is the Ox which i would be gutted about losing as the improvement over the last 6 months was great to see, he was playing really well and in different position's, me personally i would like to see the coq go as we have more than enough centre midfielder's and also theo as he just hasn, t reached his potental. But my gut feeling his Ox will be sold and then sanchez will leave as well so loosing 2 good players.

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{Ed025's Note - arsenal have plenty of money to pay wages russ, and would it be the worst thing in the world to lose the ox? hes overrated for me and injury prone and the best thing for him and arsenal would be to part ways but of course thats just my opinion mate..

24 Jun 2017 09:23:25
Wages per week, Gibbs £60,000, Mertesacker £70,000, Wilshere £100,000, Walcott £110,000, Jenkinson £45,000, Debuchy £70,000, Giroud £100,000, Coquelin £45,000, Perez £70,000 Campbell £30,000 and the Ox £65,000.

Walcott, the Ox and Giroud are not what you'd calling genuine regular first choice players and the rest minimal appearances.

That's in excess of £800,000 per week.

There is scope for movement and increase in wages where needed.

The trick is finding buyers for some of the above.

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24 Jun 2017 08:58:37
I agree Ed025 it would be best for both parties if the Ox moved on, I think the same for Ramsey too.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree G62, they have gone a bit stale for me and i would include theo as well who always flatters to deceive...new broom and all that mate..

24 Jun 2017 10:45:59
If I understand correctly we can't increase our wage bill by more than £7m, if we do it must be from increased through revenue derived from activities that exclude TV revenue. Hence, I understand, although I don't agree that player such as Ox have to be sacrificed. In Ox's case his could raise £25m, plus he may want a new deal at high wages, putting a strain on the wage increase limit. Whereas if we sell Coquelin, we may get say £10m and save far less in wages. The idiocy of this wage increase cap, is that teams wll pay the top players high wages and the squad players far less than they currently get. So Sanchez may get £300,000 a week, but to balance this squad players will earn considerably less and good experienced pros will get derisory wages or will be sacrificed for young inexperienced lower paid youngsters.

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24 Jun 2017 11:15:13
How do united city Chelsea get over these rules RG? Their wage bills far exceed ours? If they can get round this issue I'm sure we and others can do so equally if we really wanted to.
So it's not really a problem unless we chose to make it one in which case it becomes an excuse rather than a problem.

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24 Jun 2017 11:32:21
Hi G62, I presume they sell or loan players out. Hence why Man City have just realeased Sagna, Clichy, etc.

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24 Jun 2017 11:40:47
I agree with 62 its scaremongering again.

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24 Jun 2017 15:40:54
Rather sell walcott than oxlade.

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24 Jun 2017 16:23:21
I don't see Gibbs being sold. We only have Kolasinac and Gibbs in the LB/ LWB position. Wenger sees Monreal playing as a LCB in a 3 man defence, he said that a couple of weeks ago.
Gibbs isn't a bad option to have as back up.

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24 Jun 2017 18:13:05
The ox didn't do to badly as LWB against Chelsea and on the right there's Bellerin who can be by Chambers (if he stays) , Mustafi, Gabriel, and Holding (and the ox) so I don't see the problem. Might be wrong but think Holding even played on the left in bolton so even he could fill in on that flank not to mention if Kolasinac or Monreal got injured there's a ton of cb's inthe squad that could fill the LCB position.

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24 Jun 2017 21:30:06
I think if we are offered the right money, gibbs giroud and the ox will be sold. We will bin debauchery and jenkinson. Perez and cambell will depart as well.

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24 Jun 2017 21:26:37
G62, regarding club wage bills:
Arsenal = £ 200.5 million
Chelsea = £218 million
Man United = £220.8 million
Man City = £225 million

I would not say this "far exceeds ours".

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24 Jun 2017 11:43:19
Agree again Ed025 mate, it's like any working environment once less than top standard has been accepted for a period of time even if the reason was understandable and acceptable at the time getting all the same old faces to collectively accept higher expectations of themselves and each other again is extremely difficult and only human nature to get used to lower performance as the norm, in our case a top 4 us success attitude.
If you decide to keep the same boss the only other option is to freshen up your staff and bring in people who have a less comfortable attitude and are extremely hungry for top class success.

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