Arsenal Banter Archive March 24 2016
Use our rumours form to send us arsenal transfer rumours.
24 Mar 2016 19:22:55
As you know I'm an oldie been around for a while. But though me body don't work as well nowadays, I am lucky enough to see some truly great teams.
The Royal Madrid side of the late 50's
with Di Stephano and Puskas
The Brazillian sides of the 60-70's Pele and too many others.
The wonderful total football of the Dutch and Cruijff.
& our own Invincibles again too many to mention.
But Johan stands out. A man that changed the game, every skill you can think of and a brain to match it. He was a truly great player and coach.
Legend is over used now days not in his case tho. A magnificent player.
A sad day for fans of the beautiful game. and sadly a worse one for his family.
Cancer is an awful disease simple message don't smoke guys.
Believable2
Unbelievable0
24 Mar 2016 20:17:41
Just goes to show how brilliant he was, just above the rest of us mere humans, the way he reinvented the game and made it beautiful makes the game as exiting as it is today, sides like our beloved Arsenal and the current great Barcelona sides are all down to his influences.
Im only 20 years old, so I'm unlucky that I never got the chance to see him in his prime, but from videos and documentaries, he was such a graceful player, way ahead of his time on and off the pitch. Like you say, the word legend is a word banded about far to commonly nowadays, but he is out there on his own as one of if not the biggest legend we've ever had in the sport.
Dare I say, the most important footballing person of all time?
R. I. P Johan.
Agree2
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 21:26:54
Absolute Legend of a player.
R. I. P Johan.
Agree1
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 20:21:15
I've never understood the need to smoke. No lungs are built for it.
Agree1
Disagree0
25 Mar 2016 09:01:41
It's just as well then Derby hey 👍🏻.
Agree0
Disagree0
25 Mar 2016 10:46:22
World class is a much over used word in football but for a very few its a word that doesn't come even close to describing their talent and contribution to the game, these very special footballing talents don't just stand out during their careers they are talked about and admired world wide long after they've hung up their boots.
Johan Cruyff sat very comfortably amongst a very small elite group.
Thank you.
Agree0
Disagree0
25 Mar 2016 11:42:43
World class, celebrity, superstar are all terms thrown around too cheaply nowadays partly due to sensationalism in the media and reality TV.
We have unfortunately lost two people Cruyff and Bowie who easily fit those special labels.
Hats off to Cruyff, what a career on and off the pitch. You set the yardstick for Barcelona and showed how football should be played. Thoughts go to your family and loved ones.
Agree0
Disagree0
25 Mar 2016 11:43:15
One of those rare magicians, much like messi, who was essentially smarter than anyone else playing at the time.
Mixed in with an incredibly strong set of principles and genuine self belief.
Without him, almost unquestionably anyone we consider an "a grade" player today, would have half the technical proficiency that they posses. Barcelona would likely not be the institution they are without the academy he proposed.
Quite literally taught the world the "Dutch way"
A huge loss.
Agree0
Disagree0
25 Mar 2016 16:08:20
World class player and will never be forgotten I must add.
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 15:30:01
Haven't posted for a bit, but something was bugging me today and I thought I'd pose the question to you all too!
If we exclude money (eg 'I'd let Ramsey leave for over £50m) who, in the team would you say should go in the summer?
Including loanees, who would you say is just deadwood?
For me personally, I'd like to see Flamini, Arteta, Rosicky (though it is with regret) , Debuchy, Gibbs, Walcott, Oxlade and Szczesny or Ospina leave.
And that kinda bothered me because that's not a few changes, that's wholesale.
Yes, the first 3 are in their 30's, nearing contract end, yes, I only say debuchy because I'd rather we recalled Jenko and had Bellerin, Jenko and if needed Chambers to play RB, yes, I say one of the two keepers because there's no point paying out 2 keepers who won't play if Cech stays fit (admittedly a gamble at Arsenal)
But the others I don't think are good enough.
Gibbs hasn't progressed enough due to constant injury and probably never will.
Walcott hasn't progressed at all in the past 3 years, he just stagnates till it's almost new deal time.
Oxlade might be 'the one that got away' if we sell him, but he's always injured and when he does play, he's bang average.
Campbell is a better option.
Here's the thing, I personally think that we could with shifting 8 players, but I don't think we need to replace them 8 for 8!
We could easily, easily get by if we just signed a new striker, a centre back, centre mid a left back and right winger.
The current squad after my departure list, plus players signed in the positions I noted would give us m;
2 keepers, one great, one good.
Potentially 3 right backs (I'm not 100% what we call chambers these days)
Potentially 5 centre halves (let's remember Per is getting on and could soon be an injury risk, Kos is 30 and Gabriel loves a foul)
2 left backs
6 centre mids
2-5 right wingers (depending on Ramsey, Alexis, Iwobi all being deployed there at times.
2-3 centre attackers (depending on Cazorla and Iwobi being played there)
1-4 left wingers (depending on Welbeck, Cazorla and Iwobi being there
2-4 strikers (depending on Afobe being kept in the first team and Giroud staying.
Now that's all if's buts and maybe's, it could all be moot.
Regardless, that squad would have good depth in it and if we're signing better players, like a new striker that benches Giroud, a centre back that keeps Per out, or a centre mid that's taking Coq's place, that can only be improvement!
As said, it's all if's and but's.
And I've, as usual gone the long way around to making my point.
I just wondered what people's view was?!
Believable0
Unbelievable0
24 Mar 2016 16:14:50
Your right in not replacing 8 for 8 because three of them haven't been there any way. I agree with the more controversial in Gibbs ballsnot and ox I would be tempted to listen to good offers for Ramsey as well.
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 17:32:53
I'm pretty sure Arsene won't be carrying out this overhaul and I'm and I'm equally sure he will be our manager next season so IMO it's a non starter.
As long as Arsene see's out his contract Gibbs Walcott Ramsey and Ox will be Arsenal players next season, plus Szczesney as Ospina is although not a title winning keeper IMO but still far to good to be a number two at his age.
I'm not saying I diagree with your thoughts D just that they are extremely unlikely to happen under Arsene mate.
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 18:21:14
The overhaul needed isn't a one summer job.
Jenko has been recalled. he's at home resting an acl. Long road ahead for him.
Wenger kept players for too long. Big shame.
Agree0
Disagree0
25 Mar 2016 00:39:55
For me, we need to move on Szcz, Ospina, Per, Debuchy, Arteta, Flamini, Rosicky (sadly. ) , Walcott, Campbell (maybe. ) , Sanogo. That would trim the major deadwood in our squad and free up a hefty chunk of wages.
And then we urgently need to bring in a central defender, central midfielder, right sided attacker and a striker all of whom need to top, top players. We'd need a back up goalkeeper should Szcz and Ospina both move on. That would give us an excellent chance of the title next year.
The big question is, will Wenger do such an overhaul and would you trust him to do it? I do not and this is the first time I actually believe he won't be there to oversee it.
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 12:57:47
Banter please ed,
Well what's going on it's gone midday and as yet not a single negative post, come on people what is going on, surely there was some news headline that could have been a downer on the club, the manager or a player 😉
I've been trawling the net myself and the only worthwhile headlines I've found were the following.
"Derby vows to come back stronger next season with a new list, the 600 that got away but would have all made the first team, if only we'd signed them"
"Steve r seen in is local high street smiling" (joke Steve) 😃
"RG69 admits in secret interview that he really wants Arteta, Rosicky and the WOEFUL Flamini to stay"
"Sanogolovesbentner finally puts a D in his sign off"
"Ed25, after 49yrs of wearing the same pair, finally hangs up his speedo's"
"The secrets out, Dagenham actually lives in Jaywick! "
"14th October 1937, a day to remember, g62 was over come with positivity"
"High Value drug raid nets huge haul at the grove, leader found guilty, Malaga to be sentenced later this week"
"Celebrity wedding of the Year, after a tumultuous relationship over the last few years, KDB and Derby gooner have finally tied the knot in a lavish Ceremony in Derby's home town! "
The happy couple are reported to be over the moon and are planning to adopt at least 300 children.
Believable1
Unbelievable0
24 Mar 2016 13:16:33
Ha like it stoner! You have missed one headline though
Red dog finally admits that stoner is in fact his slightly more chilled alter ego lol.
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 13:30:50
Haha,
I wish I was as chilled about everything mate, if I could just sort the road rage I'd be fine!
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 13:51:06
Get yourself a fiat 500 and you will be too embarrassed to get road rage.
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 14:33:10
Haha that's brilliant stoner mate, good news at last lol.
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 14:36:13
Or ask raver if he will borrow you his nova.
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 14:41:15
Stoner,
You can't beat a bit of Jaywick mate.
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 14:58:17
Steve,
I've had road rage in a ford Anglia, a Morris Minor and worst of all a lime green Austin Allegro! Hideous car.
Fiat 500 would have been luxury! ;-)
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 15:00:12
Top post Stoner 😆.
Agree0
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 16:33:59
Great post Stoner but! :-)
Agree1
Disagree0
24 Mar 2016 18:22:49
So stoner is red dog? Is red dog now dead dog?
I miss Kevin city have missed him big time.
Agree0
Disagree0
25 Mar 2016 10:41:15
For a price I'll be whoever you want Derby ;-)
Agree0
Disagree0
25 Mar 2016 18:24:56
The way you can tell the difference between the two Derby is if it is 4 paragraphs it's stoner if it's war and peace it's red dog.
Agree0
Disagree0
25 Mar 2016 16:08:55
Haha can you travel on weekends stoner?
Agree0
Disagree0