Arsenal Banter Archive May 24 2014

 

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24 May 2014 23:09:38
Athletico Madrid,

Just won La Liga and 2 minutes away from winning Champs League.

Just goes to show, unlike what some people think on here, you don't have to spend millions and millions and millions because that team cost £30m to assemble.

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Wenger can't set his team up like Simoene can. We will never play like that.

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Yes you are right dags. But real have spent about 30 trillion and have just won the champs league.

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DG I need you to sit down to read this, OK mate I'm not sure how to break it to you, but here goes.
There is no forth place trophy, there is no champions league of low spenders big bulging bank accounts trophy either and while we're at it, you know the bloke with the white beard red coat who hangs about Christmas time? Sorry mate its another no

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I agree with G62 about we need to spend money and let's be honest, we have £100-£200m sitting in a bank account gaining interest. We've done in the right way with no oligarch or sheikh to fund us.

Fact is, we CAN buy 98% of the players in world football this summer. Question is, will we splash the cash and turn us from the perennial fourth placers to genuine title challengers for the WHOLE season.

I guess we'l know by September 1st.

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DG I totally understand if you can't bring yourself to trust me, to be honest I struggle with that too at times, but you can deffinately trust Greeny, he's a doctor

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24 May 2014 22:56:03
I take back what I said about preferring a move for Draxler or Griezmann over Di Maria. We should sign him at all costs, even if we need to look elsewhere for a striker.

He the best player on the pitch tonight by a country mile. To do that during a Champion's League final and outshine the likes of Ronaldo and Bale - on the biggest game of their lives is ridiculous.

Pace to burn, ridiculously quick feet, great crosser and a decent shot. Imagine a team with him in the form he was in tonight, and Theo on the other wing.

Think of all the full backs that will pull a hammy trying to keep up with them.

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If we get di maria I'll show my backside in macdonalds window.

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You might just make a big mac look edible if you do that Steve ha!

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25 May 2014 02:35:13
Gabri the Althetico captain was easily the best player in the pitch, closely followed by Godin the althetico goal scorer, then koke!

The best real player was Ramos but Di Maria never gave up and worked hard, quality player wish he would look up more?

Don't Real are willing to sell they made that mistake with Robben going to Bayern.

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24 May 2014 22:51:02
Hate Ronaldo!

Such a rat of a person,
can't believe a talent like his is cursed with a personality like his

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Have you heard some of the things he has done? Donated blood. Paid for an ill boys treatment and surgery.

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24 May 2014 22:53:29
Ok, after watching champions league here are a few things:-

Di Maria - I can't see Real Madrid selling him as he was world class for nearly 2 hours straight. The guy had an engine and a half and with him alone in our team, we would rip up the premier league. I was a fan of Di Maria in the past but now I would like Wenger to spend £80 million for him, that's how good I thought he was. Abuse me if you wish, but this guy is sheer quality.
Gareth Bale - i'm sorry but this guy is still dog tripe. Great he scored the second goal. Great he's Welsh. Great let's compare him to Ramsey.Errr No. He reminded me of Sonogo (Rabbit in Headlights) however don't get me wrong I am a Sanogo fan, I just think he's raw, so i'm not knocking Sanogo.
Diego Simeone - What a nutter. He makes Klopp look like Mr Bean. People really wanted this nutter to manager our club?
Graeme Souness - This guy is a tool, never ever forget when he ripped into Ramsey and said he shouldn't even be a footballer, since then the guy just sits there and he annoys me. Tool.

Please, please, please, please Di Maria come to Arsenal.

BTW: i'm a Fabregas in, notr that we need him but I don't want Manchester United, City, Liverpool or Chelsea getting him. Anywhere else I can deal with.

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25 May 2014 03:01:54
If you watched Di Maria regularly you would realise how fustrating he is in terms of finishing and his final ball. However work rate, dribbling, heart he's got that in bundles.

But £80mill is Hyperbole!

And on the most part I think Souness is on point and talks from a position of experience. The Ramsey comment as the comment about Modric tonight pre kickoff I think was warranted and was based on imperical facts! Compared to Jamie Redknapp, Gary Neville, Andy Townsend and the lot at Bt he comes out smelling of Roses!

Still preferred Ally Mcoist, Racist Big Ron and Jim Rosential covering the Champions league? With Brian Moore on commentary!

What's everyone else fav broadcast team?

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24 May 2014 22:45:49
Gutted for Atletico Madrid, so close but yet so far! But wow, isn't Di Maria just class? Possibly the second best player at Real and also Simeone is quality, either would be welcomed to the Emirates with open arms.

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24 May 2014 21:58:13
I know i'd like a new manager next season but bloody hell I wouldn't want any of you lot in the job. Stick to your day jobs and let's hope we sign what we need.

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Oh the irony!

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We all have different opinions Stevie boy.

If we all had the same opinions this site would be boring.

Not fair to have a go at other people because they don't share your views mate.

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That's a shame Steve because I think we'd all love you to get the job, just imagine MOTD interviews, you'd make steve Bruce look positive :-)

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Dags not having a go, as 1404 said, it was said with irony and banter.

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I know Steve, lol.

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Come on now Steve, no one comes to your place of work and takes the mop or broom out of your hand and tells you how to do it.

Settle down and just banter without the insults!

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Gunner you teaser, I can make jack dee look positive.

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:-) Steve I'm working on my Arsenal posters 11and while I'm struggling to make some big decisions else where in the team your most deffinately my Holding Midfielder, very little gets past you and where necessary your a mean no nonsense beast who takes great pleasure in breaking things up and has no desire to score but is just happy to stop others doing so and we all love you for it mate. In fact I'm making you my captain

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Thanx gunner i'm flattered. Lol

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24 May 2014 20:06:39
Thank you Goldboy.

I just think we should bring Cesc back.
Why not? We have first refusal (apparently) and he want's to come back (apparently).

Like I said yesterday, we need strength in depth, like City.
I'm fed up of looking on the bench and seeing Sanogo, Bendtner, Miyachi, Akpom and Gnabry, there time will come, but they are not impact players.

Last season when we played City at the Emirates, they had £130m on the bench, more than our starting 11. That's not right.

I'm not saying stop at Cesc, yes we need a DM, right back, gk and a striker, but Cesc could just be the start.

And I know a lot of people on here will moan, but why not bring Song back?
He was decent for us, a good solid holding Midfielder and he has a fantastic assist's record (13 in his last season).
He is very disciplined and sit's nicely in front of the back 4.

1) GK (Marshall from Cardiff)

2) Aurier at right back.

3) Fabregas

4)Alex Song

5) Benzema/Martinez/Remy.

The above may not be to everybody's liking, but it's realistic.

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Song disciplined? He was always going forward and trying to be a attacking mid hence his assists but left the back 4 exposed time after time
I'd love to see Cesc back but only after we get what we need most first a good quality DM a RB back up GK and CB and a top top quality ST
Aurier at RB would be great
Panitilimon from Man C as back up GK
Bender/Matuidi DM
Draxler/Lukaku/Remy ( in that order) ST
CB not sure which would be best but either of the guys from Ajax would be great to bring in
Then we can think about Cesc

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I think You have a good realistic selection their
Watching benzema now, not having a good game
Did anybody notice who was sitting 12 rows back with a droopy moustache and a big spanish hat on, I thought it was Lord Wenger

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Great shout DG, Song and Cesc will fit in seemlessly and be ready willing and very able from day one.
I'd stick with Jenks why not? And buy back up RB
Benzema
Scot Carson would be a very decent No 2 keeper.

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Dags I have to disagree with you on one particular player mate!

Alex Song is one of the laziest players who has gone completely off the boil sitting on the bench getting splinters.

He's more interested in his clothing line and matters off the pitch.

In my opinion, a poor player who we'd do well to avoid.

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Beer drinker,

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Of course Song was disciplined, when required.

When Fabregas was in the team, Song would sit back and defend, when Fabregas was sold, he played as a more attack minded midfielder, as instructed.

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Great shout DG but I'm still concerned that bringing Cesc back will slow the development of our young midfielders like Jack and even Rambo. And that along with the purchase of a DM I think our squad will just become too congested as far as the amount of midfield players goes.

As far as Song goes, I never saw that discipline. He was always gallivanting forward leaving a massive gap, he was very mistake prone and cost us crucial points at times with those mistakes. His passing was fantastic but other than that I never liked him as a player.

G62 - I just watched the updated England's Worst Ever Team on BBC 3 last night. Carson was the keeper. ha!

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Fair point Greeny buy he wouldn't be like that at Arsenal.

He knows he made a mistake going to Barca, he has admitted it himself, and is disillusioned.

Arsenal? Different club, different player.

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Going for the Flamini effect are we? Mate, as long as they have the ability and give 100% for the shirt we could sign the chuckle brothers!

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CIG,
Fair point, but in this current team he would play the holding mid role, a role he ca nplay well.

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Song could play the DM role he has the skills for it but it always looked like he didn't want to He was always trying to break forward and attack great when it worked but it left gapping holes for the other team to attack
DM doesn't get a lot of attention if done right and I think Song wants the attention so would always be looking to do to much to get it

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Chanel Island the great Henry was once voted France's worst player ever! Ok that bit isn't true, I just made it up to make my Carson shout look good, but what if it was true?
Makes ya think doesn't it

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24 May 2014 20:06:20
A bit random but never really noticed before but Diego Costa looks very much like our former Eduardo in appearance.

Speaking of Eduardo, any know he has been performing since he left Arsenal. Another player who I really wanted to see succeed at Arsenal but for 'that' injury.

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Yep, have always thought that mate.

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24 May 2014 19:27:57
LADS
Feeling a bit down.Just come home to catch my mrs in bed with the guy next door :0(
She had on a bendtner shirt.Can you bloody believe it, a Bendtner shirt

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Could have been worse she could have been in bed with Bendtner!

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I caught my man in bed with another wife

Oh wait, lol

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It could have been much worse mate, it could have been your brother in a Remy shirt, mind you to be fair it could have been better as well, it could have been her best friend in a Benzema shirt

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Welsh mate, it could be worse.

Could be a spurs rag.

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GREENY
Only you could stoop that low,
Hey it could never be a spurs player they can't finish and she like to finish, rubbish got to go somebody text me John terrys just pulled up, lol

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24 May 2014 19:10:16
Just to put my pounds worth in.If cesc come avalible, then I think we should have him
1 = he is world class and would walk into most top clubs
2 = He loves the club,
3 = would he not count as a homegrown player because of his time in our accadamy

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Totally agree Welsh

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I'm guessing you meant he would count as homegrown.

I think most, if not all fans would be in agreement that if Cesc became available that we'd want to sign him.

However he would be a LUXURY signing and one we don't NEED. We have areas of the team that need strengthening as a priority; namely RB, back up CB if Verm goes, a defensive enforcer and a striker/attacking winger.

Add Cesc on top and it would be a mighty fine team!

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Greeny
my old bud
How many world class players love our club?.well bar henry, viera, berkamp, adams,
Mate ofload either arteta, caz, flamini, kim.
Know if he comes up, he comes home

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Mate I'm all for Cesc coming back. I said that above. Just want other positions addressed first or as well.

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24 May 2014 15:35:48
Just wanted to give my opinion on a subject I've noticed on this site recently with transfer rumours and banter.

So, last, last season 2013-2013, Aaron Ramsey had a shocking season with plenty of fans on his back wanting him gone. Jump forward a whole season and he has just had a storming season even with four months out, which culminated in him scoring the winning goal in the FA Cup final to end a 9yr barren run.

Going into the 2014-2015 season he is undoubtably one of; if not the first name, on the Arsenal team sheet. This season he scored 16 times if memory serves, Arsenal won every game he scored in.

Which leads me onto Jack Wilshere. Season after season he shows touches and flashes of the brilliance we all long for him to show but nothing consistent. Again, he was injured for several months this season just as he hit a run of form. His finishing touch to the Norwich goal was the cherry on a very good cake. He also lashed one in against Sunderland I think.

With everyone moaning at him for not for filling his potential etc. Sell him and bring in Cesc blah blah blah. Just remember he's not actually played a full season yet! He's an Arsenal boy through and through and has matured in the last couple of years now, he's got a partner and a couple of young kids.

I for one will reserve judgement on him and hope he has a Ramsey like season next season. We all want "Gooners" playing for us or British players making up a big part of our team. Let's get behind England's number 7 and hope the player touted as future Arsenal and England captain comes good for both club and country.

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Selling Jack would be beyond stupid why would we do that, every Arsenal fan should want him to follow Aarons example set last season, the only thing I would say is we can't bank on it happening so have to plan our transfers as though it won't and let it be a very nice bonus if it does.
Not on shift this weekend Greeny? I suppose DR's get some bank holidays off to of course

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24 May 2014 18:27:41
I see what you are saying Greeny, but I don't think many people want Wilshere out. I think a season fully fit will do him a world of good. If he adds end product to his game (goals and assists) people will be calling him Englands/Arsenals saviour once again.

But, Maybe he gets injured because we cannot rotate him? He was overplayed by England and us in October/November which led to his injury. That period where we had no Walcott, Podolski or Cazorla he was called apon alot. So maybe we need to rotate him? Arteta and Flamini aren't top quality (good squad players though). We need to bring in Lars Bender, Schnierdlin or if he is made available FABREGAS.

Bring Cesc home, Rotate Fabregas/Ramsey/Wilshere and shouldn't have anymore injury crisis at CM. Which is easily the most overworked position for EPL players. We need strenght in depth here.

City - Y. Toure, Fernandinhio, Milner, Garcia and Rodwell.
Chelsea - Matic, Ramires, Lampard, Mikel, Luiz (last season)
Real M - Khedira, Alonso, Illermardi, Modric, Casemiero
Bayern - Kroos, Schwienstieger, Thiago, Martinez, Lahm

All the top teams have very good strenght in depth in the CM positions. Bayern have 2 World class players and 3 very good players covering here. Some argue a CDM should be priority for us, but with 2 high work rate, box-box CMs you don't need that.

£8m Aurier, £35m Fabregas, £15m Remy and £6m Drmic we WILL win the Premier league. Simple as.

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Detroit Detroit Detroit! This reply was going so well and I was in agreement all the way, and then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like sign Remy :-)
Com'on mate your better than that, I'm going to put that down to the influence of alcohol, try drinking it by the bottle and not the lorry load you'll be fine.

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I agree g62. School boy error from Detroit. Dags must have paid him off!

Drmic is untested too and we need to aim higher. Aurier is also untried but would take him to compete with Jenks.

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G62 and Greeny,

Behave or its the sin-bin for you 2

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24 May 2014 23:36:51
Remy is a different option to Giroud. Has pace, good finisher, EPL experience etc. If we cannot land a Benzema or a Jackson Martinez then Remy would be a good option.

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To.tally agree Detroit.

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24 May 2014 14:11:39
Ed02 thanx for replying my earlier rumour ok I have no problem that u not provide list. But ed02 please can u tell me which areas arsenal are trying to strengthen this summer. Thanx I will really appreciate urcreply

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{Ed002's Note - Certainly a goalkeeper, defence, midfield and attack - so pretty much everywhere.}

25 May 2014 03:06:02
Sorry detroit but Drmic has agreed to sign for Bayer Neverkusen!

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24 May 2014 14:10:21
Hi Ed I was wondering with these deals that are done pre the window opening what happens if the player is injured before the official window opens and the paper work is done? Are they binding or can the buying team back out?
Just that the world cup will be well under way by then and the injury possibility is quite likely to any player involved.

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{Ed002's Note - The players are insured by one team or another and there could be a caveat in the agreement.}

Ok thank you for clearing that up

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24 May 2014 15:17:20
Not Arsenal related but can someone tell me how the hell David "Sideshow Bob" Luiz is worth £50m?!

PSG just giving Chelsea £50 towards there transfer budget this summer. Call me cynical but it smacks of the rich helping the rich! This is the same PSG who were reprimanded for breaching the pointless FFP.

Is Luiz is worth £50m for a shambolic defender then Aaron Ramsey has already surpassed Bales £86m world record fee!

Ridiculous!

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I agree, don't know the logic behind it at all. surely Chelsea would have let him go for a lot less.
imo I don't think he was worth anything over 20mil

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24 May 2014 14:47:47
Lars bender is out of the World Cup. If, say, a team were interested in him, would this speed up the process of negotiations etc.?

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Short answer: Yes.

Realistic answer: No one will be brought in til after the World Cup. End of.

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24 May 2014 12:57:30
Ok, there seems to be a little bit of talk on here about wether getting Cesc back is a good move. My 10c worth, he's a great signing, provided we also get a defensive midfielder, a quality striker, a left sided winger, a replacement for Sagna and a replacement for Verm. If we get quality in those areas, Fabregas is a great signing. It'd likely mean Cazorla would go, which is sad. But, worth it, as Cesc us class. But, if we sign him without filling the positions mentioned with quality acquisitions, I question the capacity of the people making the decisions. I've got faith though, Schneiderlin, Aurier, Kouyate, Greizman, Martinez and Cesc will all be Gunners next season. With Sagna, Verm and Cazorla leaving.

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Wenger notoriously doesn't sign more than 3 players if he can help it. Cazorla won't be sold.

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I like carzola, but isn't he a cheep mans cesc
If I was told caz was of I would be down, but then told we have signed cesc, I would be a very happy chappy.
Hasnt caz question his team mates at least twice

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24 May 2014 12:31:49
I've been trying to resist the urge but I caved, so here's my 2 cents worth on the whole Fabregas thing.

Would he be a world class aquisition? Of course.

Do I think we need him? Not at all. The only reason it would be worth it is to prevent him from joining a rival club like Man U.

We have our own Fabregas in Aaron Ramsey, he's pretty much an identical mould to Fabregas when he played for us. To have those two next to each other would be fantastic, especially with their workrates in attack and defense. But they're both the type of players that would make adventurous runs into the box from midfield and unless we capitalise on whatever chances are created we'd still have that gaping hole between midfield and defence if we get caught on the break. One of them would have to be more disciplined and stay back and in my opinion either one of them would be wasted if they were to do that as they're both far too good at controlling the game in possession and going forward.

In the last few years I've said that our best holding midfield pairing was Ramsey and Wilshere (a la the last time we beat Man U at home.) but with Ramsey being such a revelation this season the above now applies to this pairing as well. What we need more than anything is a strong, disciplined midfield enforcer, a Bender or a Schneiderlin, someone who's only job is to stay back and protect the back 4 in case we get caught on the break, and to break up play when we are defending.

Perhaps it would be good to start with a more attack minded pairing like Rambo/Cesc or Rambo/Jack, and if we're holding onto a lead have a Bender or Schneiderlin to bring on to sure things up and see the game out.

I'd love to see Cesc back at Arsenal but he's way down my list until we make signings that give the team more depth, strength and cohesion.

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Two Ramsey's! yes so very please with sugar on it

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24 May 2014 12:02:21
Ed02 I want u to post. arsenal are linked to different players every day please can u tell me in which players ars have real interest I will really appreciate your reply thanx

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{Ed002's Note - Unfortunately it was made clear to me by one of the regulars on this page that my providing a summary of what I am aware of regarding interest in players coming and going from Arsenal would not be welcome here. So I am not going to do it. That opportunity has now gone.}

Really? Who said that ed? I'll send my trained pirate crocodiles around to their place to sort 'em out. Seriously, this is an Arsenal Banter page, and someone has an issue with Arsenal Banter being posted on here?

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Theres always those worm in th apple guys, 1 can always trust to spoil good stuff for other people. Damn!

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ED
People have been telling malaga that for years, but he still give us his B/S,, ooops I mean pearls of wisdom.
Ed I think people look forward to what you edds put.I know I do.
Please reconsider either wise malaga might get promoted, to an ed

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing to do with Malaga man.}

Well, I think I speak for the vast majority of people on this sight when I express my absolute appreciation for what you and the other eds do for us, FOR FREE. I'm loving the fact that I can ask basically anything football related, and the next time I check this site, there's an answer. Brilliant! Don't let stupidity get you down. Remember what Mark Twain sad I, "don't argue with stupid people, they bring the argument down to their level, then beat you with experience".

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24 May 2014 10:47:47
Bit of fun. Films that could be associated with Arsenal players past or present.
For Your Eyes Only . Ozil
Rocky. Peter Storey
The Fly. Cazorla
Dumb and Dumber . Sanogo & Bendtner
The Magician . Thierry Henry
The Untouchables. Arsenal 2003/2006

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Dumb and dumberer Giroud and his reflection.
Cazorla - falling down
Wenger - see no evil speak no evil hear no evil
Kronke - the invisible man
The Board - Scrooge
Merts - BFG
Tv5. - Dracula
Dags - saving private remy
Malaga - Scarlett pimpernel
Spurs - b movie

Ramsey - the Gift.

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Sanogo I am legend, its in the making and will be out 2015/16

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Bendtner - One flew over the cuckoo's nest.

Arteta - No Country for Old Men

Jack - Fracture

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Diaby - Now you see me.

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Lol 1404,

Thanks mate

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Dags I'm firmly on the Remy bus with you!

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Absolutely 1404,

And there's room for lots more on the top deck mate.

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24 May 2014 10:23:36
list of 47 players that were released by Premier League clubs :
Nicklas Bendtner (Arsenal)
Park Chu Young (Arsenal)

Marc Albrighton (Aston Villa)
Nathan Delfouneso (Aston Villa)

Ashley Cole (Chelsea)
Samuel Eto'o (Chelsea)
Sam Hutchinson (Chelsea)
Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
Mark Schwarzer (Chelsea)

Marouane Chamakh (Crystal Palace)
Danny Gabbidon (Crystal Palace)
Julian Speroni (Crystal Palace)

Derek Boateng (Fulham)
Mahamadou Diarra (Fulham)
Damien Duff (Fulham)
Johnny Heitinga (Fulham)
Georgios Karagkounis (Fulham)
John Arne Riise (Fulham)
Steve Sidwell (Fulham)

Abdoulaye Faye (Hull City)
Matty Fryatt (Hull City)
Robert Koren (Hull City)

Gareth Barry (Manchester City)
Joleon Lescott (Manchester City)
Costel Pantilimon (Manchester City)

Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United)
Ryan Giggs (Manchester United)
Federico Macheda (Manchester United)
Nemanja Vidic (Manchester United)

Shola Ameobi (Newcastle United)
Dan Gosling (Newcastle United)

Juan Agudelo (Stoke City)
Matthew Etherington (Stoke City)

Carlos Cuellar (Sunderland)
Andrea Dossena (Sunderland)
David Vaughan (Sunderland)
Keiren Westwood (Sunderland)

Heurelho Gomes (Tottenham)

Nicolas Anelka (WBA)
Zoltan Gera (WBA)
Diego Lugano (WBA)
Steven Reid (WBA)
Liam Ridgewell (WBA)

Joe Cole (West Ham)
Jack Collison (West Ham)
George McCartney (West Ham)
Jordan Spence (West Ham)

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Wouldt lescott be a good alternative for the 4th cb spot?

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I would take Schwarzer and Lescott from that list, good cover and not taking up transfer funds. No brainer

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We could go for Pantilimon as a backup for Shezza.

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Think Lescott would want 1st team footie, if you were happy sitting on your ass you'd stay at city and take 4 times the money surely?

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Sorry about this but I'd take Lescott and Cole, OK crash Helmut on, let the severe stick beating commence

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At a push I would take cole. not sure about Lescott he does look awkward and clumsy- I always think he could get a red card any moment.

LOt of Arsenal and Ex Arsenal on the list ofreleased

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24 May 2014 13:17:58
From that list Schwarzer, Pantilimon would be goo enough back up goalkeepers. Heitenga or Lescott ok 4th choice CB but would much rather we keep Vermaelen and buy a younger back up like Fabian Schaar or Dragovic.

Those players have bern released for a reason.

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Why are sagna and flappy not on that list

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24 May 2014 09:15:45
I keep hearing that we are so strong in midfield we don't need Cesc back!

The way that we play now seems to put a huge strain on the midfield physically and the number of games (hopefully - if we can stay in all competitions) means that there is more requirement than ever for top class midfielders to be available in the squad.
If Cesc was like Cashley or RVP he would never have gone to Barca. he would have been up in Lancashire with Semi Nastys and Co who all went for MONEY ONLY.

Cesc is the real deal - go get him Arsene!

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Excilled it would be madness not to if we can,
Arteta/flamini
Ramsey. Fabregas
Theo Ozil
Ox Jack carzola Rosicky all competing and rotating, it may not be perfect but its the best I can remember in a lot of years. Stick a goal machine ahead of them and Bobs ya cousin

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Amen to that g62

However. I still think a lot of names are being bandied about as the proposed striker who are not showing 30 goals (ish) per season. Not many clubs will release any players that would fit that bill.

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24 May 2014 09:03:33
So there's a lot of stuff on here about not wanting to sign cesc because we already have good players in similar roles. Who cares! He is class. if we want to win something We could do with a holding mid and another striker but I'd still rather have us sign cesc play beautiful football at the expense of the league title. Anyone agree or would people rather played Chelsea style football and look more serious as contenders, with strength and depth in every position. Bearing in mind they finished 3rd and without a trophy?

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{Ed025's Note - i think cesc would be a great signing saint, you cant have too many world class midfielders..

Also cesc is not a holding midfielder. Holy f!

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Bringing Cesc home if possible is the only thing that makes any sense, he is a top top player who already loves the club and will fit in from minute one.
Any chance of a poll on this please Ed001?

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{Ed001's Note - yep will sort it as the Poll of the Day as soon as possible.}

Thanks Ed001 be interesting to see the % for and against

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24 May 2014 08:58:35
Following on from my post yesterday, I think a world class striker isn't necessarily a must. Giroud is a good player who scores goals. Not a 30 a season player by any means. But he is a very good player at holding up play and assisting the on-running midfield. With Theo back and fit, Ozil, Ramsey, Ox? And then throw Cesc into the equasion there could be a bag load of goals for us.

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24 May 2014 10:38:52
Love the blokes work rate and much of what he does goes unnoticed or inappropriated by may, its just that he misses so many good chances and 22 last season should have been 30 +. But he would benefit from Cesc running beyond him like Ramsey as would Ozil greatly

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24 May 2014 07:47:18
Dags you hit the nail on the head mate. Exactly right. A club of our calibre should have virtually no problem in replacing players like for like. I believe this has been a major problem for us over the years and I just don't get it.
Take our strikers for instance. let's face it if you were the opposition you would hardly be shaking in your boots if Giroud was subbed for Sanogo or Bendtner. Left back and right back positions too. We lose a player and we really haven't got anyone of the same calibre to replace them. So we start moving our players into unfamiliar positions to fill in. For example Vermaellen playing at left back.To be fair I don't know what the answer is to this. City can afford to have backups worth millions sitting and rotating waiting their turn. This is how the money in football is now affecting the game. Also shows you that if you pay a player enough money he will be happy to play second fiddle which goes back to earlier points made on this site about players playing for the money and not the club. From what I'm seeing in a few years time is that unless things are going to be capped football as we know it is going to run itself up a dead end as some clubs are just not going to be able to compete anymore . Clubs like City, Chelsea etc are just going to buy top players so that nobody else can get their hands on them. They will pay them outrageous salaries guarantee that the player is happy enough whether he is on the bench or not. Yes I do believe that maybe a rule has to be brought in eventually on how much teams can spend in the transfer window. Actually it would probably be a good idea. What they want to pay in wages is up to them. Then by capping all the clubs to a figure then we would see some real managerial skills coming out in selecting a squad and competing on an even basis . let's face it you could give my 15 year old millions and millions to spend and he would do what most of these clubs are trying to do at the moment and that is to go out and hog all the best players for themselves because they are cash rich. Where's the skill in that? Going back to earlier I say we need to be looking at capping the transfer window it just might bring things back into line make the Premier League a bit more competitive again like it use to be and more affordable for supporters.

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I do not understand what you are talking about football in the Past, with caps? United have literally paid huge amounts for transfers way back with the likes of Rooney, Ferdinand, Veron. All above 30m in 2001 etc.

United always offered huge wages, and could attract players and hence the treble.

And we still kicked their arse.

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Aman021. Sorry mate read my post again properly. It's all about clubs monopolising the game as it is at the moment due to the huge amounts of money that is available to them. Some clubs have quite literally become able to have the monopoly on the best players available and stack them up like a supermarket shelf. That is why I would like to see a cap on what a club can spend in each transfer window. It would also hopefully allow the younger players to come through and develop get a bit of game time experience and the like. The way things are going at the moment a kid will have to be super exceptional to even be looked at. It's as simple as that. The money is killing the game. Players are getting up to 20% of their transfer fee just for changing clubs. Look at Bale as an example nearly £13 million for swapping teams and a massive wage at the end of the week. Do you really think this is sustainable? I don't. You mention United spending loads in transfers but this is what I would call the transfer fee momentum which has got to be looked at as its getting out of hand.

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Thank you Goldboy mate

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24 May 2014 06:36:59
Cesc Fabregas,

Firstly the talk of our super strong midfield, we have 10 players listed which include Arteta, Flamini, Diaby, Kallstrom, Rosicky and Zalalem. According to opinions over this season the first four are not really good enough or available enough.

Rosicky is ending his career and Zelalem just starting. Leaves as with Wilshire, Ozil, Ramsey and Cazorla, you could include the Ox.

Does our midfield now look so strong. Fabregas, Bender or Carvalho with Aurier, Vela and this as yet unknown striker is the summer we need.

Our quality in depth is if we're honest is a way off of City, the current bench mark.

Just a note on the striker we need, City scored 102 goals last season with their 4 top scorers getting, 20 17, 16 and 9.

If Giroud gets in the 20's with Ramsey, Vela, Wilshire, Walcott, Podolski, Fabregas, Cazorla and the Ox chipping in then 100 goals may not be that far away.

Sorry to go on but another thing, Jenkinson, someone said he played 14 games over 2 seasons and should go on loan, others that he's not good enough.

The majority of those games came in the 12/13 season when Sagna was injured. Jenks had a whole pre season to himself and started that season playing the kind of football that warranted an England call up. I just think we are being to quick to dismiss him. I only say buy Aurier because I don't know enough about Bellerin and Aurier is like Sagna in that he can also cover CB but more importantly, he scores goals too.

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Totally agree Jenny how can Jenks come good like Aaron if he isn't given a fair chance.
If Jenks does an Aaron next season then get big money on Sanogo to be PL top scorer the season after :-) could be a trend developing from most ridiculed to most rated

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Totally agree on Jenks, he was doing a great job when Sagna was out and in my eyes warranted keeping his position when Sagna was fit.

And as far as anyone saying Cesc shouldn't come back, you must be mental to think that Cesc Fabregas would be anything other than a great addition to the squad, quality quality player.

My offer previous was to personally drive Gervinho to any club in Europe to get rid, my new offer is to dive Cazorla to Spain, drop him off pick up whatever cash we can and then pop down to Barcelona to bring Cesc home.

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I genuinely hope we give Jenks the nod next year. If he doesn't cut it then we can invest in a new RB in the January window. Bellerin looks on the way to being a top notch player as well!

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24 May 2014 02:49:51
Am not keen in Cesc, but with wiltshires continous injuries he might just be needed?

And he always brings assists!

Finally why would he cost 35-40mil euro or sterling?

We sold him for 30mill and payment was in stages. So along with other outstanding payments, age and deprecation. I make it 25mil euros so that's what £20mill.

£20mill he's worth that in my estimation!

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24 May 2014 02:42:44
Would like to see Jenks go on loan next year and two RBs brought in this window.

Really like the kid but he's not the finished article. And has only 14 games in the EPL in both the last two seasons, he's not ready to take the mantle.

Would love Aurier but the same problem arises. So Juanfran (admittedly I'm jumping on the rumour wagon with him) but I know he's a decent player at 29 years so that if we signed him for a couple of years we'd have Aurier/Jenks ready to take the mantle by then.

Opinions?

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Are you serious? Thought Jenks had a great season 12/13 better than Bac! No reason why him and Richards/Aurier wouldn't work. could be great competition and push him on! Makes no sense developing players to buy 2 ready made players when we have Jenks at 21 and Bellerin at 18 I think Richards at 26 is the best option to allow a life long gooner to prove him self at the highest level.

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24 May 2014 01:13:49
Anyone think Vermaelen + cash for Fabregas is on the cards.

Even with 18 months as 3rd choice he has to be worth £15m in this market

add in any clauses we may/may not have

Fab might only cost us £20m

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24 May 2014 01:00:21
im surprised not a lot of people remember this, but when we bought cesc he was our pivot, the same as what x.alonso, and what modric does now.
when he played alongside viera, viera played the ramsey role, with cesc playing the deep tenacious cm.
well that's what I saw anyway.
we need to replace 2 CMs this season (arteta n kallstrom) and sign a DM on top. so cesc is needed n more then welcome for me

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Fabregas certainly was a pivot player, Alonso comparison is spot on.

But Vieira was never a Ramsay player nor Ramsay a Vieira, at least not in my opinion. I don't know why so many people are making similar statements of late.

I hope it doesn't have to do with a goal article. While I enjoyed it, it was wrong, and just cashing in on the FA cup final.

They could have told us that Scientoligists and they're moon gods conspired against us in the last nine years to ruin our challenges and we would have believed it at that stage.

Also Fabregas and Vieira was ONE SEASON!
Not that I'm attacking your statement Waq1 just that I have heard/read this a lot also. A single season when the player is 17ish years old does not a players' footballing style make.

Well hope he comes back to us though regardless of everything. even my own feelings of why he left. I don't think he's any less guilty than anyone else who walked away. Though I found it much more difficult not to be his fan all the same!

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24 May 2014 00:19:18
Cashley cole, not a popular player but a good left back, certianly better than Monreal, and a free agent

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Never! .

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23 May 2014 23:48:19
Seems my post about Cesc didn't get shown? But in fewer words it was basically saying what Steve R posted ( below ), midfield is our strongest department, why do we want to spend 40,000,000 to bring CF back, yes he is great but we have moved on and our current crop is FULL of quality, we need to spend elsewhere


Why do people want to bring back cesc into an area where when fit is by far our strongest area in depth and quality and probably with the acquisition of a top class enforcer, be the strongest in the prem. He brings us nothing that we don't have already, without upsetting the balance. When we need major Investment up front and in defence. What an absolute waste of good money on an area we are strong in, compramising investment elsewhere. I hope wenger isn't as sentimental as some of you. In fact i'm sure he isnt. I hope. Plus he's been that good this year he's getting booed by his own fans.

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We might be string in that area but Cesc would make us stronger.
You'd see someone leave to make way for Cesc so it wouldn't matter much on numbers

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24 May 2014 00:04:22
just me who feels gibbs was overlooked for the world cup squad, thought the guy had a really good season?

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Big time

obviously baines was going to be 1st choice but shaw is comically over rated!

United are welcome to spend £30mil om him!

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Baines is no 1 shaw is a fantastic prospect cole is better than gibbs and I think woy was right.

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