Arsenal Banter Archive November 24 2014

24 Nov 2014 22:02:43
Yesterday's poll.

'Was Arsenal's defeat to Manchester United due to bad luck'.

21 votes.
8 said it was bad luck.
13 said it wasn't.

Did the 8 people watch a different game to me?
Bad luck! Are you sure?

Apart from 3 seconds of bad luck ( that's how long it took for the ball to leave Valencia's boot, hit Gibbs and ricochet into back of the net), how was it bad luck?

Bad tactics, bad performance, no leaders on pitch, no desire, no commitment, naive defending, poor finishing and total incompetence from the bench and players was our downfall.

Bad luck my ar5e.

24 Nov 2014 23:18:40
There was an element of bad luck to go one down after all our possession, attacks and shots. Even a moron can see that.

We then flicked the self destruct button, lost shape and hope of keeping it to one goal down. Even a moron can see that.

It short - a little luck and we would have been 3 up.

A little more shape and we could have drawn

When you have that much possession, you have that amount of attempts and the opposition have that few attempts defeat is just bad, luck doesn't come into it. We don't need bad luck to throw games, its a habit. And dags I don't think you are a moron. I know your a christian.

24 Nov 2014 23:40:36
"There was an element of bad luck to go one down after all our possession, attacks and shots".

How is that bad luck?

We make our own luck 95% of the time be it good or bad.
Chelsea ain't lucky every week and us Liverpool QPR unlucky every week.
Over a season things even up, Anderlecht away? I'd say we in profit in the luck account

24 Nov 2014 18:47:08
CTR the therapist is here,

Right I want to try a little exercise with you all,

I want u all to post one thing u genuinely are thankful for to Wenger over the last 10 years, I really think this may help.

Plz no rudies, bambam I'm looking at u mate. And dags please no jokes. G62 u are a gent my friend.

Look at me all you want mate, if it upsets you leave the room :) x

Ctr you must love arsenal mate you're always on this page! Arsenal loves you back mate welcome to our club!

Chris the fight back starts Wednesday with Dortmund and if not deffinately Saturday with the buoyant Baggie's or if not then very soon, when I say very soon I mean its not that far away, if you don't count Saturdays Sundays Tuesday's or Wednesday games our record is second to none

62

Better than Dags :)

CTR I'm extremely grateful to Mr Wenger for The Invincibles and fingers crossed Chelsea or anyone else get anywhere near the record! An extra special team!

CTR can I ask would you rather still have Ferguson in charge with his team as he left or as they are now? Every great manager has his time and I think wengers is nearly up!

24 Nov 2014 21:12:28
League and cup double in his first season.

24 Nov 2014 21:13:37
Ooppss, read it wrong :-)

Move to The Emirates.

Honestly ctr vierra, I think he was the pivot for all the good we achieved.

We either laugh or cry Banbury mate and I for one am all cried out.

24 Nov 2014 22:20:47
Love it G62 :-)

24 Nov 2014 22:26:54
Sanchez. It seems to have been a long decade.

Got me ctr, sorry i'm slow, didn't read it correctly, first time. Best thing he could have done in the last 10 years. Decked moureen last month,, when he had the chance.

25 Nov 2014 06:56:46
I'd have fergie in charge still yes mate

24 Nov 2014 17:24:43
What is a good result on Wednesday? Usually I would say a win and nothing else. Especially with the circumstances.

Realistically though - are we just best off with a draw? Are we really going to be able to challenge them physically?

I don't know what tactics to run with but it has to include Chambo, Alexis and Welbeck to keep running and an energetic midfield to keep up with the German powerhouses.

If everyone gets warn out so be it, it's only West Brom at the weekend - only West Brom.

West brom away is not easy. early kick off too we hate them. I think we will drop points

At this moment any team we play against would fancy strongly their chances against us, confidence is shot to pieces, from the moment of kick off, it's only a matter of time before the other team scores (in their minds and ours).
The philosophy has to change, I think the squad is OK, not great but OK, and with proper management / tactics could be on for another top 4 finish.

We will get a point off one them if not Dortmund then definitely the mighty Albion away, who knows may be back to back points with one from each.
We will not relinquish our 4th place trophy or our last 16 place exit to Bayern or Barca without a fight, come on you Gunner's

24 Nov 2014 15:56:39
As requested,

A joke for TJred,

Went to barbers today and asked for a Liverpool FC haircut.

Messy at the back, not much on the sides and very little up front.

{Ed025's Note - not bad that dags..

24 Nov 2014 16:13:27
I thought you might like that Ed :-)

Im pretty sure they found arsenal banter page open onto one of dags jokes on robin williams ipad. don't blame the guy.

24 Nov 2014 23:43:04
Hehe, thanks Derby lol

24 Nov 2014 12:47:09
I suggest my local pub team manager should be given a chance as Wengers successor; admittedly he doesn't have any of the necessary coaching badges, can only speak English (badly), smokes and drinks too much and is fond of the horses, but he is up to date with the modern game.

24 Nov 2014 10:11:41
The things saving us at the moment are Liverpool have Rogers and Everton have no money but both of those things could quite easily change in the near future.
Klopp to Liverpool and someone to finally invest in Everton giving Martinez a decent transfer budget plus 2 more years of Arsene's management tactic's and transfer policy would leave us being uafa cup hopefuls and a lot less attractive proposition for a decent manager.
Can we afford to wait 2 years with no hope of a change of direction style tactics or thinking of any kind?
Now that is scary

24 Nov 2014 04:56:40
I didn't watch the game, but I saw the extended highlights. Ignoring the last 10minutes where we played with 0 defenders which I'll admit was a bit strange, I'm completely baffled that we didn't win 5-0. So many easy wasted chances, so many weak shots instead of a simple passes for a tap in. Luis van gaal must have made a small offering to anubis before the game or something, not going to point fingers at anyone for that defeat I've never seen anything so unlucky.

If you have to play a left back at centre back and not one recognised defensive midfield player, it makes things extremely difficult. Wenger also needs to provide protection for his full backs, who tend to get exposed one on one. If Wenger can't grasp how to defend, it's time to go.

24 Nov 2014 00:46:41
if we don't sign a marquee defender like Hummels and a cdm this club is going to deteriorate further and further because after saturday just shows defensively we are apauling. so seen as though we haven't go a hope in hell of getting a player like that we've got to get used to europa league from now if we're lucky, because with this board owner and manager we haven't got a chance.

23 Nov 2014 23:46:10
Say what you will about Abramovich, he is first and foremost a businessman but unlike Kroenke he has passion for Chelsea to be successful and has really taken them to his heart.

We are a cash cow for an American businessman who has no interest in our sport, our club or our fans.

He has got us financially stable, he has made a fortune now I wish he would just sell up and go back to the NFL.

Wish thinking.

We never were in trouble with finances. But i'm with you the biggest change should be kroenke out usmanov in

I think the criticism of Kronke is unfounded. He has taken very little out of the club and has left Wenger to run the club as he seems fit. We are financially sound and our current predicament is down to Wenger's error in not replacing Flamini & Arteta, as well as signing two additional defenders. Wenger deserves the right to use the January window to sort things out. To blame Kronke is simply misguided.

Leaving Wenger to run things by himself is poor management on his part for a start Rob.

He should've been sacked when we failed to mount a title challenge over any the previous 9 years.

Abramovich gets results that's what I'm saying.

Kronke is a problem though his teams don't win titles and he's here to make cash. i'd like to see if he stays after 2 seasons out of champs league. I think he should sell to usmanov now while the price is still high

VDG - Owners can't win, if they are hands on they are accused of interfering. I would far rather someone like Kronke who keeps his distance and allows the manager to run the club as he seems fit. He doesn't take loads of money out of the club, which he is entitled to do, if he so desires. I don't believe he has refused Wenger funds to sign players. To lay the blame for our start to the season at Kronke's feet, beggars belief.

Robbie it is clear that ‘sporting success’ is not the motivation behind Mr Kroenke’s ambitions. Since taking over the Denver Nuggets, Colorado Avalanche and the St Louis Rams not one of these teams has had any success ie in the silverware department since 2001. Sound familiar? Unfortunately, we can now add Arsenal to that ever growing list.

Robbie kronke is the prblem but wenger is also part of the problem. over time you will see this.

if usmanov took over when kronke did I think we would of won more buy now and be challenging