Arsenal Banter Archive April 25 2013

25 Apr 2013 22:46:42
Seriously, do we need Jovetic? wouldn't you rather the money was spent improving areas we need more?
I'd love to see Capoue or Bender. I really don't think we're as far off where we need to be in terms of players

Yes - we need at least one more quality forward. We also need a quality midfielder and Capoue and either of the Benders would do the trick. We can afford both easily its just a matter of whether Wenger wants them and whether they want to come to us.

25 Apr 2013 22:02:12
Have people ever considered a player might not leave because they are happy where they live? They are humans aswell. If I had a really awesome job prospect with 20/30% salary increase far from where I live I probably would leave because I love it here.

Just a thought.

Detroit Gooner {Ed002's Note - In Detroit?}

Too easy a target Ed -:) but I've been to Detroit a fair bit, drive through it from the tunnel at Windsor. There's a lot of cool stuff around there, especially Ann Arbour and along the Michigan shoreline. The MidWest has a cool vibe going on if you know how to tap into it. Saw England play Germany there in the Silverdome too. Great atmosphere but we played like crap as per usual. No surprise we didn't make the World Cup. {Ed002's Note - I am from the West Coast which is a whole different world of course.}

Hi Ed - do you mean Wales then, or Cornwall?

25 Apr 2013 18:33:39
Perfect summer and a realistic one
Rene adler - 5m
Benedikt Howedes - 15-18m
Victor Wanyama - 15m
Julian Draxler - 18m
Stevan Jovetic - 24m

thats a total of 77-80 million euros or just under 70 million pounds. Also the height and the physicality would improve drasticly. What are the chances of theese players happening?
I read an interveiw with G�tze�s agent today, he said in an interview that Arsenal, manchester city and bayern all met the 37 million euro release clause. That should mean Arsenal are willing to spend money.

These are the players I would also want this summer. german spine!
imranredman

Would be over the moon with those signings but I think we'd still be in need of a class out and out striker so maybe swap jovetic with say the man of the moment lewondowski? Unless of corse wenger plays pod upfront in last 4 games and he shows us he can be our main striker

I'm a big fan of Howedes but he recently sighned a new deal with schalke so doubt he would go.
I'd change wanyama to Geoffrey Kondogbia of Seville. Similar players but feel Kondogbia playing in a superior league and having a pretty good season would edge it for me.

25 Apr 2013 16:37:19
hi I know yep I know that we have jovetic I know for certain done deal now I think aw should go splash on fellaini, aubameng, corchia, and begovic these are players that are in our grasp but old tight wad will probably miss out on them just like we did david silva, hazard, toure yaya, and so on so we will only add to the alredy done deal of joetic with prob corchia and some unknown players. grow some wenger please.

25 Apr 2013 17:56:08
How is Jovetic a done deal? It's just another rumour circulating. Wenger has 'looked' at him, and that's about as far as it goes at the moment.

How many times you going to get bit before you learn?

Look at previos seasons m'villa, Hazard to name a few

Never done until its signed sealed and delivered especially arsenal related

In no way stirring the angry pot but Yaya was solely down to work permit issues. At the time, he couldn't play in this country. Every other aspect was as close to a done deal as could be. I don't believe Silva was ever an option as at the time Arsenal still had Fabregas and Hazard was probably down to wages. M'villa was a viable option but due to his love of being arrested, Wenger moved on.
I've seen the articles about Jovetic being virtually a done deal and it is entirely possible but let's just put on our calm-down trousers and see what the summer brings ;-)

Ross

25 Apr 2013 15:53:08
we never had a realistic chance of signing goetze, same with hazard and mata. yes, we may be very interested in these players and it's also very possible that wenger was scouting them before anyone else, but once the price tag gets above a certain level we simply cannot compete with the money grabbers.

we are built to be sustainable and buying 2 players for 70 million is far from that unless we can keep that level of profit generation going.

wenger refuses to overpay for players so we will never see a 45 million bid for falcao or anything ridiculous like that, and once FFP comes into effect we will hopefully be playing on a more level playing field instead of constantly punching above our weight as we have been forced to do for some time now.

form is temporary, class is permanent.
arsenal forever,

We did have a realistic chance of signing Mata and Hazard. Mata we just didn't want to pay £23m which now looks cheap. Hazard was £17m about two years ago which now looks cheap. Falcao we were actually linked with when he was playing in South America so presumably there was some interest then.

What i'm saying is that we only have a chance of signing these players as long as there is no interest from the money grabbers (chelsea, united, city, psg, barca, real).

wenger offers what he think is reasonable but any offer we make will be tripled by these clubs, meaning triple the transfer fee to the club and triple the offer in wages to the player, essentially taking our offer out of the picture.

i would love to see these players at the emirates as badly as any other gooner, but as I said, we are punching above our weight class.

Didn't Mata turn us down on personal terms? As we wasn't ambitious enough?

Mata was wages I believe. He wanted over 100k a week. Everything was golden

Ross

Mata was only on 80k for chelsea last season.

Mata has a wage of 67k for chelsea.
Not sure where you got 100k from.

Eh?

Mata's personal terms were agreed with him, what messed it up was having agreed terms with him, we then wouldn't meet his buy-out. Chelsea came along, met the buy-out, and matched our wage offer.

And yes, you read that right - Juan Mata earned less last season than Chamakh did/does.

Really? Ok, I stand corrected.

Ross

25 Apr 2013 12:29:21
My Dream summer transfer window,

GK, Handanovic (Inter)
RB, Abate (Milan)
CDM DeRossi (Roma)
LW DiMaria (RMadrid)
RW Maggio (Napoli)
ST Cavani (Napoli)

Nas

Dream RB Abate? dream GK Handanovic really? any goalie in the world and you want Handanovic? Abate no better than walker great forward questionable coming back

Di Maria good shout

dandan

Dandan am sorry but handanovic is amongst the top 6 in the world.
iwarutis

If this was a dream list then Messi, Ronaldo, Pique, etc. If you're trying to be realistic then why include Cavani who we will never get?

If you swap Cavani for Jovetic and De Rossi for Wanyama then you probably have all realistic signings that we can dream will all come off.

All i'm saying is this is a dream list so why would you go for a top 6 goalie you'd go for number 1 or 2 would you not?

Casillas or Neuer?

just my thinking

dandan

Thats your dream summer?

okay mate, everyone has that special something for certain players, I for one love Capoue and can't stand Neymar, Ronaldo or Suarez.

But I don't see the need for De Rossi, we need world class players yes, and he is a world class player. But I can't see us going after someone that is that loyal.

the only way Di Maria would sign is if Bale joined Madrid, but even then they love having 3 great players for various positions (Kaka, Ozil and Modrid for AM) so Di Maria leaving isn't likely.

My perfect summer, but also being realistic and spending a lot of money would be:

begovic/mignolet/adler
n'koulou/ Kouyate/dragovic
wanyama/capoue/gonalons
draxler/cabella/dzagoev
jovetic/lewandolski/cavani

i understand that lewandolski and cavani are very very unlikely, but I think breaking the bank for one of them (lewandolski IMO) would be great for arsenal.

also wanyama has said he's staying at celtic, but this doesn't mean he is 100%, if an offer comes in for celtic which would be hard to refuse, then the lure of champions league (provided we get it) would also be hard to refuse.

COYG

25 Apr 2013 11:35:34
Does anyone think james milner would be a good buy. He works hard, and would be cheap, and can cross for giroud to stick his head on? any thoughts.

Typical English carthorse. No thanks.

Naaaaayyyyyyy! Just think we could have Donkey Song and Milner the Carthorse in midfield!

Milner is a poorer version of Ramsey

25 Apr 2013 18:20:15
How you say milner is worse than ramsey. he's often one of city's best players

25 Apr 2013 10:23:05
Hey guys,

Interesting question for ya

If you could have any ex-Arsenal player back in this team who would it be?

Not necessarily your favourite or the best, but the player that this team would benefit having most?

I couldn't easily decide so i'm just going to go with Viera, gut instinct. :)

ed what do you think as well?

noobGooner

Sol Campbell
Thierry Henry
Gilberto silva

We need a good solid CB and Campbell was that (Adams may be a tad to slow) and Henry as I feel he was one of the best ever and anytime would still have him in his prime, Gilberto as he has been what our midfield has been missing big time
Dandan

Bergkamp. Absolute genius, who colud mentor the young strikers, and teach the older ones a thing or two. And teach Walcott what it mwans to play for Arsenal

Vieira in his prime.

Got to be tony adams Mr Arsenal

The defense has tightened up abit, giroud seems to get a lot of stick. so i'd say, because I love him Thierry Henry, but even though my love for him is more astronomical than City's transfer budget, i'd say bergkamp. he was magical

Van Persie, obviously

AJH

25 Apr 2013 06:13:37
I'm looking to buy Newcastle vs Arsenal tickets for the end of season game and I've come across Viagogo! Are they reliable? how do they work? I'm looking for 3tickets

25 Apr 2013 01:35:28
Higuain was awful today what's happened to him

Alot of people don't watch la liga. I do and what it is, is basically a basketball game. where they have one superstar who is fed the ball almost every forward attack and you take him out aka bayern and dortmund and they are left scrambling.

benzema has been rubbish, higuain has been rubbish, villa has been rubbish, sanchez has been rubbish, pedro has been rubbish. one man teams can't win all the time.

barca and madrid need some proper talent to add around their superstars or they will be left to win their games when their superstars are having their days.

He gets no service.

They needed a proper winger yesterday. Instead they had 2 number 10s and 2 strikers w Alonso and Khedira

There was no width. Same problem Barca had against Bayern

I can guarantee you Higuain doesn't miss a third of Giroud's chances and if work rate is what we like, Pipa works just as hard as Ollie, case in point backtracking the entire pitch to knock Kuba's shot out for a corner

If they sell we should be lined up

Hmm I see

Ofcourse we should line up and take any of Higuain and benzema. the barca two for me are not what we need.

Lakerville you claim you watch la liga and then say higuain has been rubbish? clearly u only watched him against barca. higuain is awesome. just what arsenal need. and about yesterday the reason he was rubbish was because of mourinhos tactics. if ozil played centrally and di maria started you would have seen a different higuain.
iwarutis

I think what a lot of people forget, is that the Spanish league consists of two incredible teams, a handful of ok teams and a lot of terrible teams. It's very easy for Real and Barca to look great in La Liga because they're constantly coming up against mediocre opposition. As soon as you put them up against teams that have real quality, all the cracks start to show.

Ross