Arsenal Banter Archive August 25 2014

25 Aug 2014 21:35:45
Just watching the City v Liverpool game, Sturridge has three good chances and cocked 'em all up.

It happens to them all guys

25 Aug 2014 22:29:47
Aguero had one and smashed it into the back of the net, Jovetic had two and smashed them both into the back of the net.

25 Aug 2014 23:01:03
Didn't see it but I'm assuming City looked good?

I mentioned Sturridge as he was getting rave reviews form some on here.

25 Aug 2014 21:11:13
Liverpool buy balotelli,
Everton signing eto,

What are we doing!? Selling Poldaski! Losing manolas to Roma?
I am so sorry Wenger is losing the plot very quickly
Buying 2 players (Sanchez & Chambers) and replacing Saga and fabinaski
Is not good enough, we have been linked with so many players, and yet nothing is done,
Last year we were 7 points from the top in 4th place this time unless wenger buys 3 quality players I am sorry to say we will finish 6th
If anybody has itk that can share and release my stress levels please help me?!

25 Aug 2014 22:12:11
At present, fair post.

Let's hope Wenger has something up his sleeve.

I would wait until Monday 00:00am before predicting where we will finish, infact I would wait until Xmas.

But you can't comment on our dealings in the transfer market until the window is shut

Dexy calm down

I understand yours and everyone's frustration but let's not start screaming in panic yet.

Firstly you say about players we have been linked with. Yes lots. But there's a massive difference between being "Linked" and actually being "Interested". Papers like a lot of people on here and other worlds of communication put 2 and 2 together and come up with 63. Being way off the mark.

The players you mentioned, Balotelli first. I personally would have loved us to have got him. But he's a Liverpool player now and we move on.
Eto, really? Will he make that much difference to us? I don't think so.
Manolas, ok this is my opinion on why we won't get him. He wants first team football. Will he walk into our team if koscielny and mertesacker are fit. No. He's a bit of an unknown quantity too. Plays for olympiacos in a poor league, done ok at the World Cup. Roma want him and he will be a starter due to benatia leaving. If we want another CB I believe we should sign a top class player. Someone of the Hummels standard. Someone who can walk straight into the team at the expense of 1 we already have. Maybe that is what will happen. Maybe it won't.

Iv been waiting for the Di Maria transfer to happen. I think that's the 1 transfer that could start a snowball effect of other transfers across Europe. But it will be Thursday at least before anything happens with us. We could well have transfers lined up but they will depend on us winning on Wednesday against Besiktas. So till then hold tight.

25 Aug 2014 22:59:55
Definitely.

Somehow, I can't see Wenger not signing a DM.

Here's hoping anyway.

Ah dexy it's with so called supporters like you who swallow the garbage that is spewed out by papers and online sites as if it's gospel truth.

Wenger had had a fantastic summer so far and has strengthened us considerably so far so yes giroud is a massive loss and will be sorely felt if something cannot be done.

But please for the love of god don't throw your toys out of the pram any time something bad happens ffs, neither you or I know what wenger will do or has planned so relax and take things easy and have faith that the club knows what they are doing would be strange for us to be so successful if we didn't.

All thank you for words of wisdom,
My stress levels have lowered since I posted,
Let's hope Arsene makes those signings and we can then focus on wining the league?,

25 Aug 2014 20:03:11
I would be happy with Gustavo, Remy and a centre back ;)

25 Aug 2014 22:12:50
Agree SY4

25 Aug 2014 19:38:34
With some people getting so desperate for a DM that they'd take Gustavo, maybe this is an option;

Arsene has spoken of him in this position and with the imminent return of the Mertesacker and Koscielny partnership does anyone think he will take the opportunity to play Chambers in the DM role.

Little doubting outside of experience he has all the attributes, tackling, reading of the game and distribution all looking really good. Out and out speed not a necessity in that role either.

I don't want him to get used as a utility player but make one position his own but that could be his as much as CB.

I would certainly rather have him there than Gustavo, Tiote or any of the other average DM's out there.

If it comes to it I'd be very open to Calum being given the chance to shine there but I'd rather have a purpose built DM.
If the worst comes to worst what do we have to lose I guess

25 Aug 2014 19:07:46
From Arsene Wenger

Arsène Wenger believes Olivier Giroud is improving every season and would not be surprised if the Frenchman hits the 25-goal mark this term.

He scored 16 [in the Premier League last year] and he's very convincing, " the manager said. "You never have to set any limitations for any player. For me, he's improving every year and don't rule it out that he scores 25.

25 Aug 2014 19:22:55
He's doing well.

Has improved his 2nd year with us.

Can't say fairer than that.

25 Aug 2014 18:15:13
Hey Eds how about poll which goes along the lines of, have Arsenal strengthened in all the right positions.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think that deserves a poll yet AWF, we all know the answer is a definite no mate...maybe after the deadline we can ask it..

25 Aug 2014 17:47:27
This is a list of our top goalscorers (League), since Thierry left us in 2006.

2006-07 RVP 11

2007-08 Adebayor 24

2008-09 RVP 11

2009-10 Fabregas 15

2010-11 RVP 18

2011-12 RVP 30

2012-13 Walcott 14

2013-14 Giroud 16

Summary. Apart from the RVP 30 season, Olly G hasn't done too bad.

Could be better, but not too shabby.

25 Aug 2014 18:04:44
Or perhaps you're setting the bar too low?

I have no doubt that giroud will get closer to the 25 mark this season, he can be frustrating at times but as the team gets better so will he so try not to jump on the aaa let's all hate ollie g bandwagon please.

He will pass the 25 mark this season and again have numerous assists

25 Aug 2014 18:26:25
Rosie,

I understand your point, but Mr Nibbles scored 31 last season and Liverpool didn't win the League.

2011/12 season, RVP scored 30, we didn't win the League.

Personally, I love 2 up top, ala Man City, who get 40/45 between them, that's normally enough to be crowned Champs, but even that is sometimes not enough because I think Suarez/Sturridge scored
53 between them last season and finished runners up.

If you play one up top, ala Arsenal, you need your midfield to score more to compensate for a lone striker.

But, I think above all, you need a very very good back 4.

So it took the unspeakable dutch bloke 5 seasons to score as many admit took Olly two to achieve? Interesting.
I understand people want an out and out goal scorer that gets 30 goals a season but Giroud is still a very good player and no way deserved the terrible stick he got after last Tuesday

Spot on Dags old boy, sadly our midfield will never score enough goals

25 Aug 2014 18:59:34
Agree mate

G62

Speaks volumes, not so many posts after the 90th minute on Saturday eh?

Hmmmm I wonder why? :)

Gunner62 I think it's because RVP was always injured. Olly Giroud at his best is not worthy to shine the boots of an in form RVP

25 Aug 2014 19:54:10
Good response dags. Giroud is fine so long as Sanchez, Walcott, Ramsey and Cazorla all score plenty. As always we will have to wait and see!

25 Aug 2014 20:09:40
Absolutely Rosie.

I think the golden boot 20/1 giroud is a fair shout along with jovetic and costa who are far shorter come on olly show us all what you're capable of!

25 Aug 2014 23:02:01
I'll say it again, happy with Giroud, but we need more. Banbury, I piped up after Girouds 90th minute heroics, as it confirms how excellent he could be coming off the bench against tiring CBs. Olly with another quality striker like Bony or Martinez to interchange and relieve each other, coming on fresh against tiring CBs, we're a genuine title threat. Olly coming on late relieving Cavani or Falcao, we're title favorites. I've never and will never be anti-Olly but I will continue to shout loudly for a CF, be it a challenger or a replacement to Ollys starting spot.

Steady on Outback, we don't want our strikers relieveing each other on the pitch - they need to concentrate on scoring goals.

25 Aug 2014 16:11:43
Ed, do you know why the Manolas deal fell out? Who are we now targeting at center back?

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

25 Aug 2014 14:21:57
Hi eds. Now that manolas is not happening, do you know of any other defenders that we are showing interest in? I read reports linking us to toby alderweireld(spelling). Any updates? Thanks in advance

{Ed002's Note - See earlier answer please.}

25 Aug 2014 12:09:56
The man who invented the time machine has died.
RIP Mike Smith 1947-1896.


My wife has just nominated me to do the ice bucket challenge.
Has anybody else been asked to hold a toaster at the same time?


After a poor start to the season, Manchester United have been dealt another blow.
Tom Cleverly has been declared fit for the next game.

Why did the chicken cross the road, Dags?

25 Aug 2014 15:08:09
To avoid my jokes? :-)

Jesus, you got it in one! Genius.

25 Aug 2014 17:39:10
Lol, thanks NEG.

25 Aug 2014 12:01:25
Q

Do we think Arsene knows his starting line up or indeed best formation. Will tinkering too much cost us dearly?

We have got to stop looking for the negatives all the time. How many posts have there been on this forum complaining at Wenger's perceived lack of tactical diversity?

I'm personally encouraged that he 'seems' to be mixing it up a bit.

There's a time for tactics and doing things according to the team you're facing, going to the boot sale stadium and playing our way is a recipe for melt down.
I think every team needs to be able to mix it up a little and be able to adapt.
My concern with Arsene is he quite often gets it wrong and doesn't seem to learn from past mistakes, Everton 2013/14 season and 2014/15 season spot the difference in our two first half displays?
Its a worry that lightning keeps striking time after time, Arsene should have either lead an orchestra or worked on the buses because he's a brilliant conductor

It is a question, how can that be negative doh!

So you dispute that playing players out of their positions on Saturday didn't have a detrimental affect on our performance.

Arsene knows simple end of story.

Sorry amon but its Arsene believes not knows, I love the bloke and don't want him replaced or anything stupid like that but how long since Gilberto and Vieira left?
Yet year after year we get exposed by the lack of a good DM, Arteta was and never has been a DM he's just filled in there

25 Aug 2014 15:13:23
Nobody is disputing that Aman,

But using your logic, this site wouldn't exist.

Banbury makes a fair point in his post, a point that opens up a discussion.

That's the point of the site.

That's what I thought Dags

Lets not post anything . . . . . because Arsene knows simple end of story :)

Banter is fine, and who we think and how the formation should look, but statements like -- "Do we think Arsene knows his starting line up or indeed best formation.", is directly pointing that the Manger we have is inept and doesn't know what he is doing. Framed and worded better is good Banter.

25 Aug 2014 10:45:26
Does anyone else think that with the proposed deal Manchester United have in place for di Maria we got an absolute steal with the signing of sanchez? In my opinion 2 players of similar quality but we got ours for about £30m cheaper!

Agreed. Di Maria is a great player, but you're right, not a huge difference between the two, so comparatively you could say it was a bargain.

I agree. Also I hear dimaria is on 190k! I don't think he is worth that much! Guess utd were really desperate!

{Ed002's Note - £ or €? Net or Gross?}

25 Aug 2014 18:00:36
If there is one thing I could take away from being a regular user of this website it would be that there is no possible way to compare the 'value' or quality of one deal to another. There are far too many unknowns. Enjoy Sanchez. I hope we will enjoy Di Maria.

25 Aug 2014 11:56:01
Nice to see the EDs using avatars, especially that miserable, surly one, ED002. what a moody ald get he is. Used to be quite affable back in the day, mustn't be getting much I suppose. Anyways, chins up ED. xx

25 Aug 2014 09:46:53
So far so good. We have won the Charity shield. We have made some great signings. We won our first home match & drawn away to Everton, a match we lost badly last season. The remainder of August will define our season. We need to qualify for the group stages of the Champions League. We need to sign at least one defender and a true defensive midfield player. We need to beat Leicester away.
I am already concened with the injury situation and the lack of rotation and available defensive choices in the squad. Players such as Debouchy, Chambers and since Gibbs injury, Monreal are playing every match, without rest.

25 Aug 2014 07:32:48
There was a very good post on here some weeks back when someone said you hardly hear people saying " Do you remember the great game Messi played against so and so? " or " Do you remember the great game Ronaldo played against so and so?" Right?
Well there is a reason for that and that's because they do it every week. That was a great post, by I don't know who now, but anyhow the point is that is the type of player we need at Arsenal. We don't need players that cause us to have to remember the last time they had a great game.
Haven't we surely gone beyond that stage in our history.
By the way. Love this site. Good ain't it?

Your last 2 posts kind of contradict each other. 1 your saying we need players of a standard who pull out world class performances week in week out. And the other you complain about the money being paid out. You can't have 1 without the other. That's why Arsenal have somewhat fallen behind

25 Aug 2014 09:49:38
Yeah, that was from me Golds.

If you liked my post that much, please send a cheque/postal order in the post for £100, payable to Dag's, to "The Dag's appreciation Society", Loic Remy Towers, London.

Its for a good cause. Caribbean Holiday.

25 Aug 2014 09:59:04
On a more serious note.

I just think, after being in the 'dark' for so long and not being able to spend money during The Emirates move, we needed to have one Transfer Window when we went all out and splashed the cash.

We started this window buying very good players, Sanchez, Debuchy, Chambers, but Wenger seems like he is not going to buy anybody else.

We need another 2 very good/world class players, to complete the puzzle.

If we do that, we may not even need to buy players for another few more years as our 'Dream team' could be complete.

Let's hope Arsene has a few tricks up his sleeve in the next week.

25 Aug 2014 11:27:24
Agree Rocky mate. It's down to the money you are right. It's always going to contradict itself no doubt. I don't know what the cure is going to be. Maybe the day will come when all the clubs end up overpricing everything that they get into so much financial trouble that they will have to go back to basics and think again.
There is no question my posts contradict each other there is a big problem out there but the money and greed is smoke screening it for the time being. You made a good observation mate.

Dortmund proved you don't need to spend big or pay a lot of wages to be competitive

24 Aug 2014 21:50:00
Munir el haddadi ed?

Probably seen by barca as a great prospect, any interest or any chance of leaving?

{Ed027's Note - I'm sure there is interest, but why an earth would Barca sell him? Unless someone meets his €35m+ release clause of course. I mean he's just played his first competitive game for the club and played very well

25 Aug 2014 07:33:13
Hey Akie,

Did I get the two guys in the picture?