Arsenal Banter Archive February 25 2016

25 Feb 2016 16:17:14
Why don't fans agree on a kronke out protest? I don't live in London anymore but if I did I'd be trying to organize one!

More ambition! Kronke OUT!

25 Feb 2016 17:07:02
I fail to understand the criticism of Kronke. Yes, we have £200m in the bank, but I am certain it is Wenger's decision not to spend more. Wenger has always stated that a football club is a business and must make a profit. Kronke has invested far more in purchasing his shareholding in the club, than he has take out and the £200 million in the bank is clear evidence that he hasn't raided the club's cash reserves.
A chairman can't win. Kronke chooses not to interfere, if he did I am certain the fans would criticise him.
As a fan, I believe Wenger should have released Arteta, Flamini (shocking player) and Rosicky. He should have brought in a couple more world class players.

25 Feb 2016 17:08:44
Maybe in the summer why might be hero worshipping him. Or maybe this summer he will come under more pressure.

25 Feb 2016 17:15:04
I think we're a very long way from any protests about anything and if there was one i'm not sure Kronke out would be that high on the list of things to protest about, money has for transfers has been available for the last 3 seaonns if not longer.

25 Feb 2016 17:48:46
R69

Kronke can't raid the cash in the bank

It's the club's money not his.

25 Feb 2016 19:39:22
Its not there to be spent or taken out by kronke that's not how it works.

26 Feb 2016 01:42:34
Kronke and the board ofcourse have to be held accountable. this number of 200 million pounds seems to somehow gotten around and all fans seems to KNOW this is what we have available. BUT, behind closed doors how do we know that the board/ kronke have instructed wenger only to use a small % of it? Also on the flip side, if they have made all this money available to Wenger and he is not utilizing it and still has not been improving us significantly, they isn't it up to the board/ Kronke to put the heat on Wenger to spend it on some better quality and improve the squad? Either way you look at it they are the people in the club that dictate the direction of the club. Wenger is a legend and always will be but he is just another employee and should not get any kind of god status.


Reading Ferggies book right now and its so apparent that the one thing he always told his players when they won a trophy is Well done, now we have to prepare to improve and do it again next year. this mentality is just not there at our club from the board to wenger and from wenger to the players.

26 Feb 2016 03:19:56
I still fail to understand why Kronke is to blame? During his time the club has been very stable, has paid off huge debts and has funds in the bank. The club is extremely well run from a commercial point of view. The playing side of things and the running of almost every aspect has been run by Wenger, not Kronke. I believe we should have continued signing at least one world class player in each of the last two windows, following on from the signings of Ozil and Sanchez. Two more world class players, a defensive midfield player and a forward, would have made all the difference, certainly in the domestic competitions.

{Ed001's Note - do you know why the club has such a huge sum in the bank, rather than using it to buy the players needed on the pitch? I will give you a clue, it is not because of Wenger.}

26 Feb 2016 09:56:44
With all due respect Ed001, I have to disagree. Wenger has stated that football clubs are a business and as such must make a profit. In the past a director Keith Edelman mentioned that the club had £100m available to spend. As a result he was castigated by Wenger and sacked. Indeed, even Ivan Gazidis has encouraged Wenger to utilise the funds at his disposal. Other than for day to day running expenses, there is little point running up huge capital reserves, unless they are set aside for a particular project or the shareholders distribute it.
Kronke has invested a lot of funds in obtaining a major shareholding in the club and has taken very little out.

{Ed001's Note - by having huge cash reserves, it enables Kroenke to borrow against his shareholding in Arsenal to invest in other projects. You can disagree all you like, but he has done so on a number of occasions, including the ranch he recently purchased.}

26 Feb 2016 14:46:24
Cash is good to leverage but not necessarily the best. An appreciating asset is probably even better. 200m in cash will only be that, it won't grow. However, invest in a couple of decent players, and show an increase in their value, albeit a book value, means you can leverage more. Same goes for the ground. Worth a lot more now than it was a few years ago. Kronke is clearly not an idiot, if he wants to leveage his Arsenal shares he can do it with that 200m in cash or not. Much more important, if i was the owner i would be slightly concerned with the level of our wage bill versus turnover if we kept signing more players. Spending the 200m and ending up with a wage bill approaching 70% of turnover would ring alarm bells. We already have the 4th highest wage bill in the premiership, which is a shock considering the players we have. Wenger needs to stop rewarding average players with above average wages if we are to move in the right direction.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but you clearly do not understand football if you think spending money on players makes the club worth more, when it increases the wage bill, for starters, lowering the profit margins. It is a stadium, other facilities and cash in the bank + profits that makes it worth more. Kroenke knows what he is doing.}

26 Feb 2016 17:35:38
Ed 01 you are 100% correct but like me you are flogging a dead horse. People have to understand business to realise why that money is there and not being spent. They also have to understand kronkes motives behind running his sports enterprises.

27 Feb 2016 11:46:18
EDD 001 THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH

The fact that you have to explain basic BUSSINESSES logic to so many on here is exactly why kronke will keep getting away with his planning without being questioned. People seem to think they know exactly what going on behind closed doors.

{Ed001's Note - you are welcome mate, if people took the time to read business magazines etc, they would see that the subject has been covered in much depth in them. Sadly they are usually subscription sites, so most people never get to see them. I did read an excellent article on it in a magazine while I was waiting for a meeting about my visa here, some glossy expensive mag, that really explained it brilliantly. I wish I had thought to note down which mag and issue it was for people to read!}

25 Feb 2016 08:31:28
Hi all, LFC fan here, reading down the page I can't believe some are calling Ramsey "a one season wonder" and"not good enough over a season". I thought he was your best player against Barcaand your biggest problem is Ozil. I can't ever recall him turning up for a big match. he's superb against the likes of Norwich, Villa and Sunderland but when the big teams come along and it really matters he's non existant.

25 Feb 2016 13:33:40
I think people get frustrated in certain players not producing week in week out what we think they should. I think that maybe the fact we haven't a player or players that actually take the game by the scruff of the kneck and can dominate the opposition is the reason. For us we are crying out for a tony adams in defence a vierra in midfield or a thiery henry up front who turn up roll their sleeves up and say look just give me the ball I want to kill the opposition and players like ramsay and probably all of our players are followers not leaders. We don't have that player who actually dominates by example and other players follow. Most of our players turn up for games far too sporadically. Ramsay should be our frank lampard and turn up with goals on a regular basis and we are still waiting for that to happen. Next game someone else will get picked on for a similar reason.

25 Feb 2016 13:53:49
Man city was the last time we really looked good as whole team IMO, in other game it's been in spite and spats but again IMO it's difficult to see how we've improved on other seasons.

25 Feb 2016 16:25:37
Fantastic reply Steve.

25 Feb 2016 16:56:57
Thanks dags the cheque is in the post.

25 Feb 2016 17:11:04
We have a problem in fitting certain players into the team in the current line up. In reality, when fit, the following players are at their best in the central attacking midfield role; Ozil, Ramsey, Cazorla, Wilshere and Rosicky. The problem is that only one player can play in this position, which means that players such as Ramsey have had to play wide right or in a deep defensive position. What we have needed for some time is a couple of world class defensive midfield players and a top notch striker.

25 Feb 2016 17:25:35
Ramsay looked overwhelmed and in need of leadership - agreed Steve. In a way that doesn't happen to Caz, I miss the little guy!

We need a leader and Kos and Cech look like capable lieutenants!

25 Feb 2016 19:03:50
Is it not a case with ozil that most people know he is our outball? Stop him and generally you keep us quiet (I think Henry said something similar this week)

I think it's why top top teams have a few outballs and thus are harder to defend against?
Rooney Ronaldo tevez
MSN
Bale, Ronaldo, benzema
Robben, Ribery, muller

I think we are work in progress. When a worldy is genuinely available, and is interested in playing for arsenal I dare say he'll be acquired.

25 Feb 2016 19:41:22
Gav don't hold your breath.

25 Feb 2016 19:17:32
Robben would not get in to our team lol. Or so they say. Nice goal midweek. Something out of nothing.