Arsenal Banter Archive May 25 2013

 

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25 May 2013 22:56:02
I'm sorry - just seeing people sniff at the chance to take Rooney for £25m is baffling me. When you think about it, Arsenal signing Rooney (as unlikely I think it is) would be arguably the biggest transfer in Premier League history.

First off, we'd be getting a keystone in Manchester United's success for many years. I know he's not as good as he should be given his mercurial young talent, but he'd get into every Premier League starting XI with no fuss. For me, he'd also get into every starting XI in Europe with the exception of perhaps Bayern, and even they were after him. Yes, Rooney has been known to have off days, for instance when United are winning comfortably. But the best thing, for me, about him is his tendency to come up trumps in the big matches - something we haven't had since this season. Rooney always seems to get on the scoresheet when it matters. I'll emphasise that he's not had the best season by his standards but his quality has been shown when they've needed him most in the rest of his career.

Secondly, what an unbelievable statement of intent. Unbelievable being the operative word but even so - just a year after losing the best out-and-out striker in world football to United, we take their pre-Van Persie jewel in the team for less than what they bought him for. Not only what a signing talent-wise, what a story football-wise. There's something poetic about it - imagine if a reinvigorated Rooney with something to prove was the thing to galvanise a silverware charge in the wake of a managerial shake-up.

Moreover, Rooney would add to our 'British core'. I know it's become a cliché, but having England players in conjunction with Rooney as a figurehead to the team would be something to firstly admire and later build upon - an already ingrained cohesion.

If in the unlikely event we manage to sign him, I'd see him playing entirely up top. Even though he's been dropping deeper to have more of an influence, having him as the striker in a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3 would be fine because Podolski, Walcott or Cazorla (or whoever we play wide in the three) would act as inside forwards while Rooney drops deep, and when he's in the striking position he'd just play as a centre forward.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is I'd happily take Rooney at £25m. Anyone who wouldn't, I'd really like to hear why because for me, the only better-suited player that we could get for less is Robert Lewandowski who, according to Wenger during his commentary on TF1 during Bayern vs BVB, has already signed for the German champions.

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It would be no bigger than rvp to united. Arguably less so bc rvp is a better player

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26 May 2013 00:06:11
It would absolutely be bigger than Van Persie to United. I view that move as nothing more than another selling of our best player to a poaching club, this time it just happened to be United. Rooney to Arsenal would be groundbreaking because A) it's the most money we've spent on one player and his wages, B) the on-field stature and commercial status of the player and C) in a world where 'statements of intent' very much set the tone for the season, signing Rooney would be a huge indicator of what Arsenal's aims are over the next 5 or 10 years - namely competing for everything there is.

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26 May 2013 06:38:04
Don't want him anywhere near my club thank you very much.

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Ask yourself why United are prepared to sell him. Ask yourself why he is left out so often? Ask yourself has he really been the keystone of United's success. Mask yourself why so many United fans would be happy to see him leave.

AJH

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26 May 2013 08:18:51
Rooney turned up for pre season a stone over weight and his form this season has been woeful, dropped for Utd's biggest game against Real Madrid because he was not only playing poorly but SAF said he was unfit.

He has lost both pace and touch and is no where near the player of 2 seasons or more ago. Age isn't on his side and examples of Torres and to a degree Owen don't bode well for him.

He obviously doesn't want to be at Utd and the vast majority of their fans want shot of him. But you are talking one huge gamble that he'll come back to be anything like the player he was. He is 28 now. Do we really want that.

Stoner

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26 May 2013 15:36:43
@AJH - United aren't 'prepared to sell' - they don't want to. The thing is, he handed in a TF request. That's what RVP did and we sold him. If a player wants out then so be it.

And whoever mentioned the guys he's played behind is bang on. Rooney has never really been the number 1 at United despite saving their bacon too many times to count. Not surprised he wants out.

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25 May 2013 22:21:07
Hah! Rooney, Lewandowskie, Higuin, Cavani, Falco, Jolevtic, these signings just ain't going to happen, to many big hitters out there with more money the sense and we won't be dragged into a bidding war or be used to bump up the price.

Arsenal will be signing -
Songo (done deal)
Capoue (agreed in January)
Cesar (done)

CB position is still undecided, looking like Williams, however I believe a youngish CB will be signed.

CF, as I said don't be suckered into believing any of the above will be signing, however I believe a player in the Lakaku mold could be making there way to the emirates.

I wishful signing would be to have Fabregas back.

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26 May 2013 04:38:30
totally agree with what your saying would most proberbly get benteke for cf and williams. we need to stop dreaming about rooney and the rest it ain't happening.

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25 May 2013 22:17:43
What are the chances of signing young Feyenoord CB/LB Bruno Martins Indi? Tottenham were interested, but Gio Van Bronckhorst might point him in the right direction.

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25 May 2013 21:48:00
With each final that I watch and see a team lift a trophy it only makes me more desperate to see Arsenal do the same. But after the Champions league final and watching dortmund over the last few years, a few things become obvious to me. Jurgen Klopp has to be the man to succeed Wenger when he does move on. And this summer the players we need are Lewandowski, Gundogan and Piszczek. I'm not deluded I realise that it won't happen but they are exactly what we need. Imagine if we also added Williams and a goalkeeper Adler would be my choice, moved on some of our squad, we would have an insane team. I really can't wait to see what we do over the summer, hoping for some exciting signing. Now I'm off to get over my Dortmund love affair and come back to reality.

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25 May 2013 21:33:27
Wenger needs to man up. He spent 12m on podolski last season and 10m on giroud. They scored 20 between them in the league and have a combined wage bill of about 180k a week. Instead of buying two average strikers. Why not spend the combined amount on higuain and then you have 180k to pay him a week and he will Score more goals than the other two put together and then you don't have some many average players. Makes me feel that Wenger is just a scared and can't manage world class players and that's why he's sold all out top boys! He needs to wake up and do some thing about it

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I think you need to take your head out of your ar*e no name and realise like a lot of people need to that the reason we don't pay top wages to one player is because eventually it will escalate out of control. You put on player on 150k plus and eventually everyone will want it if they're playing well enough and that way you put the club in jeopardy with so many wages to pay and not enough income coming in to finance it as well as all the debts we still have to pay on the stadium.
It absolutley nothing to do with wenger wanting to sell the players because he is scared and can't manage them, what utter tripe that is. This is the same man that managed viera, bergkamp and henry you moron!

It's the first season for both podolski and giroud and I can guarentee you next season you'll be eating your own words when they score 20 plus each.

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Bradders - that's b*******. Go google the Man U and Chelsea wage bills, both teams only have about 3 players on anywhere near 150k+

So don't make stuff up.

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Here he is again with his no name afraid to take criticism. So out of all my paragraph you choose only one part to argue with? Didn't you see nasri's leaving statement about it wasn't wenger that wanted to sell him it was the board? Obviously not. It's not wenger losing and deciding to sell these players it's the board so you can't sit there and tell me that all this is wengers fault. That's ridiculous. Really think Walcott and podolski would sit back and be happy on the wage they've been given as they are the clubs highest earners and watch a new signing come in and probably do no better than them in the first season and be earning double what they do? Get real.

Weather it changes the wages or not it would still bring a bad atmosphere within the ranks. You need to look at the bigger picture would you be happy if we did the same job and I earned more than you? No you wouldn't and you would slack off and not work so hard. Same applies in football believe it or not.

And you use Chelsea as an example of not having that many high earners. Mate we were two points off Chelsea and the only reason they won a trophy was because they bottled it nice and early in the champs league. So like I said last time get your head out your ar*e as we're really not that far behind as you may think.

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Bradders - you are full of BS.

Chelsea were still in Europe and a cup long after we got knocked out.

They played double the games we did in the last 2 months, with a smaller squad.

You made a point about wages escalating out of control and I'm calling you out on that utter BS because that's exactly what it is.

Everyone then uses Chelsea as an example to justify that total crap when that is the worst example ever.

We pay players far more than Cahill, Ba, Mata, Moses, Luiz, Ivanovic and all that lot are paid.

Man U have players on 15-20kpw who play for England as seniors but they get told to earn their contracts.

'Spiralling out of control' - the only cae of that even anywhere near being true is with Raheem Sterling at Liverpool because he was on about 15kpw and keeping players like Downing out of the team.

I'm also not the original poster.

Chelsea have a smaller squad than us, they played 69 games this season, they have starting 11 players on less than some arsenal players who don't even make the bench and some players on loan, and they still finished ahead of us, and they have managed to fill their team with stars nonetheless.

And OP is right - what's the point in spending £10m on Podolski an £13m on Giroud when we could spend £25m on one striker who bangs in more combined for 50-80kpw LESS wages?

It's a valid point.

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The original poster is pressing all the blame on wenger and i'm not having it. its as simple as that. It's wrong to throw all the blame his way. He's doing what he can under his bosses.

Chelsea were long in europe after we got knocked out?! are you mad? did you not watch the last 16 game against bayern? Chelsea didn't make it past the group stages hence them being in europe a lot longer. you know, a lot longer because they bottled the group stage.

maybe escalating out of control is a little bit of an over reaction, but at a club where they're not used to high paid players like arsenal its bound to have an adverse effect.

where is your proof that there is man u players on 15k-20k? don't hit me with these figures with no proof.

if the eds will let me post the three websites ill show you the rough breakdown of wages between the three clubs in question and youll see that i'm right instating arsenal wages struture is much fairer. If we paid the inflated prices of 175k for hazard against a player of similar quality in cazorla who is on a measly 70k a week who is getting better for the cash spent? there's no way hazard is worth 105k more than cazorla no way.

Ashley young is on 90k a week. Good F*kin agent if you ask me, walcott on 10k more with 21 goals to his name, whos getting better for their cash?

like I say if I was allowed to post the pages I would be the eds don't like links to other pages and that's understandable so do your homework before hitting me with figures out of the blue.

Would you like me to continue?
Cahill - 80k
Koscielny -50k
Mert - 60k
Ferdinand - 110k
Vidic - 90k
Smalling -40k
Evans - 45k

Get my jist, we had the best defence in the league over the past ten games and our wages are outstanding to reflect that.

The point in the spending of money on podolski and giroud is because you can't rely on one player to play all year and expect them to do the job van persie did.

Podolski and Giroud's wages are a combined 167k a week - giroud on 60k and podolski on 107k a week, torres takes home 175k. So don't give me that crap either because it doesn't wash with me, you tell me one arsenal fan who'd swap podolski and giroud for torres and i'll let you have that point but I guarentee you won't find one.

Im not for one second suggesting wenger hasn't made bad purchases in the past but what i'm saying is don't blame him for the wage structure and don't blame him for the selling of the players because beleive it or not that's comes from above his head 99% of the time.

Everyone needs to get off my case and realise i'm talking the truth and there are the figures to back it up for crying out loud, this isn't wengers fault is the only point i'm making.

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At what point did I say we should swap them for Torres?

I said we should be happy to spend £20m+ on one player who would bang in the same number and use up less wages in the process.

So don't tell me I think we should sign Torres.


And to be honest, Wenger is far more to blame than you think. Wenger decides the INSANE wages. Jenko is more than most mid-lower table first team starters and can't get into the team ffs. This list is endless and anyone saying Wenger ins't to blame for our wage structure and awful transfers is the biggest mug of a football fan going.

He chose to fork the same for Santos as Liverpool did for Enrique, but chose to pay Santos more wages than Enrique, and chose him to be a back up player, behind Gibbs who wasn't ready to be the number one. In that one move alone we have 4 GROSS errors. 1) ignoring Enrique, 2) signing a wash-up, 3) believing that 2 yars ago Gibbs was ready to be first choice, and 4) putting the back up on 65kpw as a bench player.

That's just that one area. Then there's Ramsey's bumper contract, The Ox's bumper contract, There's the decision he made to take a risk on Diaby's magically getting fit this season instead of buying a DM, even though 1) he never saw Diaby as a DM and 2) Diaby gave a clear interview where he said in no uncertain he terms he is not a DM but he likes to get forward.

Again, Wenger.

It was Wenger who ignored the Berbatov signing. It was Wenger who ignored Moses for £10m even though he's one of the best wingers in the league and he raped Sagna for the entirety of at least 2-3 games before he eventually went to Chelsea.

It's Wenger who will NOT sign a nippy, instinctive striker in the mould of Aguero, Sturridge, Defoe, Suarez - someone agile and ready to take chances.

It's Wenger who will not sign a left winger but will play a LF at LWF and wonder why he can't beat wing backs for pace without Gibbs doubling up.

It's Wenger who stuck Theo on £100k but can't get two good games in a row out of him.

It's Wenger who messed up the Mata transfer.

It's Wenger who signed Park, hardly played him, ruined his international career then loaned him out.

It's Wenger who plays Ramsey at RW for nearly an entire season, turning every Arsenal fan against him, before finally giving him more time in a better position this season.

It's Wenger who doesn't buy good enough bench/squad players for us to be able to bring on impact subs or have a healthy rotation system.

It's Wenger who ignores Rosicky's presence at the club despite his comeback being one of the most impressive returns to the fold during the whole season in that CL game. When we looked short of player and short of ideas Rosicky wasn't even making the BENCH.

It's Wenger who simply will not buy all-rounders. Giroud slow as FFF and can't beat a man and takes a decade to get a shot off. Mert slow as fffff and more expensive AND higher wages than CAHILL.

Its' Wenger who allows his teams to suffer from the same problems for 6 years running and addresses none of them.

It's Wenger who won't sign the best players from lower prem clubs, instead choosing to send the same money abroad on unproven talent and then paying them a third to twice as much.

Wenger entirely supports what every fan on the planet knows is the BIGGEST problem at Arsenal - the wage structure. To have a wage bill as close to Chelsea's and United's etc as ours is, not to mention Bayern etc, and have the lack of stars we have, as just unbelievable negligence and ignorance.

There isn't a single player at Arsenal who has to play for their contract. They get an improvement just for being there!

Squillaci, Arshavin and Santos are all on 65kpw or more.

Evans 45kpw and when he plays he looks like a first choice, and often is due to rio and vidic issues this season.

Honestly, don't sit there and blow smoke up Wenger's arse, and don't talk about wages being ok or other clubs being worse than us without a damn good argument because you will lose!

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I gave you a damn good argument mate and you refuse to even read it correctly when I've already stated that mert is on LESS than Cahill. And is apart of the best defence in the league over the last 10 games conceding only 5 goals. If you wanted cahill here instead of mert this season then we'd have really struggled considring he's been out for most the season. then we would have stuck with vermealen and koscielny and really would have sucked. But I guess its wengers fault vermaelens form has dropped too considering its his fault for everything else?

But if you're not going to read my arguments then stray from the path of blaming the entire reasoning for arsenal finishing below chelsea by two points on wenger alone then be my guest.

It's ok to say he should go and buy a small nippy forward then list aguero who we can't afford, sturridge who is no where near as good as walcott, Defoe who plays for the spurs and would never go down well at arsenal, and suarez who's banned more than he plays haha, you're a joker mate. You'd rather have suarez and have him make a mockery of our club like he is doing at liverpool?! i'm so glad you're not in charge of the club that's for sure.

you moan at theo being on 100k a week he scores 21 goals yet hazard whos on almost twice as much comes no where near that?!

Mata transfer fair doos, but then we got cazorla and his stats are exactly the same this season as matas, and again we paid much less for him.

Ramsey you are correct he did play him totally out of position and i'm not going to argue with you there, but then moaning about his "Bumper contract" 60k a week for arguably our most improved player this season. Bargain.

Park and santos you're totally right shocking signings no doubt. and those were the signing I was relating to when I've already pointed out the wenger has made mistakes in the past. i'll even go on as far as gervinho too. even though gervinho's stats were much better than hazards the season we signed him. , that's your left winger you're saying he hasn't bought, but again I suppose that's wengers fault he can't hack the premier league?

Wenger came out and said that rosicky still wasnt fully fit at the time hence him being taken off at half time in that game and not being seen til weeks later.

you moan wenger doesn't buy all rounders and quote giroud. yet we're a club that hold the ox, podolski, theo, cazorla, ramsey, wilshere, arteta who are all able to play in more than one position.

You claim he doesn't buy the best players from the lower prem clubs and there's a reason for that. they're sh*t. you point at moses being one of the best wingers in the league yet he doesn't get in chelseas first team. you can't be one of the best and not get in the 3rd best team in the leagues first team. that's contradictory.

and whilst we're on to being contradictory, do not for one second suggest we need to buy depth and then agree with the OP who says we need to buy a better class of player instead of two "average" ones.
we cannot afford to buy two world class players for each position believe it or not because we're not run by a sugar daddy, and our sponsorships have only just ran out so now we can compete with uniteds sponsorship deals.
that's the ultimate contradiction and is impossible to do both ways. if we did that all over the park we'd have the tiniest squad in the league and suffer week in week out.

I'm happy to agree with you when I believe you're right as I have done throughout this post but i'm not going to sit there and let you and the OP blame ALL of the clubs problems on wenger.

I've argued on every point youve made now even though the majority of them are completley not associated with the original point.

If you want the club ran differently then you're going to be in for a shock unfortunatley. You know where chelsea are if you want to see big signings mate. don't expect them at arsenal, you'll only piss yourself off. We'll carry on doing things the way it is weather you like it or not unfortunatley,

I'm proud of the way our club is run and can totally understand those who don't like it because we don't win anymore. But knowing we're the best run club in the country and the highest placed without ridiculous debts or being a billionaires play thing is good enough for me until the time comes for us to compete with those guys again.

We're never going to agree it seems but that's football innit.

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25 May 2013 20:16:19
many reports stating that jovetic to arsenal is off, is this one of the "twists and turns" that ed002 was talking about? thanks in advance {Ed027's Note - Probably is

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25 May 2013 21:03:07
You know the more I think of it the more the idea of Ashley Williams playing for Arsenal starts to make sense.
You just have to look at the team the way Wenger sees it, Mertesacker and Koscielny are our defensive pairing and will start next season that way. In Williams he is looking for that leader he thouht he had in Vermaelen, that vocal figure, that presence.

I wouldn't expect him to start every game but will be reliable when called upon.

Makes total sense to me

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25 May 2013 20:50:40
Marco Reus is the player we need. Sign him at any cost.

There are few players as expressive as this kid. Messi and Ronaldo come to mind. Anyone who disagrees hasn't watched enough of him. He can do it all.

Sign him. Please.

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25 May 2013 20:38:20
Lewandowski and klopp to arsenal next year.
wenger will walk away to PSG or monaco

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Forget next season, get Lewandowski THIS SUMMER~!

Arsenal should make him the #1 transfer target and go all in for him. The man is class.

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25 May 2013 20:06:38
I really would like to see us go for Mario Gomez if he becomes available

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25 May 2013 21:49:42
he's a donkey in my opinion, would rather have giroud
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Why? He and Giroud are almost exactly the same.

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'donkeys' don't score 75 goals in 115 apps in a top league.

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25 may 2013 19:11:37
thomas muller is a target.

the bong

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I hope this is true, everytime I watch this guy he always impresses me

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Why would he want to come to arsenal? He's currently playing in a champions league final. Unfortunately we won't be there for a while.

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He's 23 and a starter for Bayern and Germany. don't think we can afford him

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25 May 2013 18:29:06
1st post so be kind guys I think ramsey has been a bit of unsung hero of late and would like to see him and jack play more together and rooney ain't coming stop dreaming guys

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Good first post. Less delusional than many other first-timers.

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25 May 2013 17:30:42
I would take Rooney any day off the week but I feel if we are to sign him we should have got him as
part of the RVP deal or just kept RVP with extra money

I would like to see

Rooney, off course but tbh he's not coming.

So I would take

Jovetic
Wanayma
Abudamengy, but apprantley he's off to Anzi

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Who?!

Aubameyang?

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I don't want rooney anywhere near arsenal

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25 May 2013 17:24:12
according to papers arsenal are chasing wayne rooney, I can't see him coming to us as we are below man united and it would be a step down in his career but if he did sign I wouldn't mind too much. Put believable if you want rooney to sign.

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25 May 2013 19:22:23
To be fair I think even Arsene could catch the fat lazy h****r!

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I hear you stoner. I don't want rooney at arsenal

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25 May 2013 16:50:22
£25m for Rooney. At that price bracket there are better alternatives.

£25m - Higuan
£25m - Benzema
£25m - Jovetic
£22m - Lewandowski
£20m - Gomez
£18m - Soldado

Or I'd even prefer Dzecko, Hernandez, Torres, Villa, Benteke etc

Detroit Gooner

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Higuain, yes
Benz, yes
Jovetic, yes
Lewandowski, yes
Gomez? If you mean the Bayern one, NO
Soldado, maybe

Dzeko, NO, Hernadez yes, Torres.

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Lewandowski is going to cost someone a lot more than 22m. Benzema and Higuain are inferior finishers to him.

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I reckon if Lewandowki is priced at 22million there will be a queue from Munich to Minchinghampton with the money in bags!
Would love him at the arsenal at almost any price

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I don't want rooney at arsenal and to be honest I just think he's trying to get more money but it will fail.

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25 May 2013 16:26:46
Anyone think Negredo or Soldado could be worth a punt?

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Soldado YES

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Negredo, i'm not sure
soldada, defo worth a punt but would valencia let him go and would he want to come.

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25 May 2013 16:09:53
just been told rooney is on his way to paris.
he has been offered a job at euro disney to empty the park at closing time.

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Liar! He wouldn't work for Disney, Shrek is Dreamworks.

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25 May 2013 14:38:16
Why spend all that money on Rooney when we could spend it on Bale?

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Bale would cost twice as much as a transfer fee

Paul

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Dont want bale or rooney

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25 May 2013 13:22:45
Eds if arsenal are considering a move for Rooney (paper talk - multiple claim we can afford the wages) why would we not consider a move for neymar? A striker / left wing would be perfect for us right now with his pace and dribbling ability.

I know he will cost more in transfer fee but he will generate more commercial income and also is significantly younger so better value and if he chooses to leave we will get a better return than if we were to sell Rooney.

Santos have already accepted 2 bids widely anticipated to be real and barca but could one be us? Could we be a third? {Ed027's Note - Stop dreaming, neither will happen

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Why wouldn't Rooney happen? If he's going to leave I would assume he'd prefer to stay in England, only chelsea, City and us could afford him and offer champs league. He won't go to City and Utd wouldn't sell to them, Chelsea want other targets. that leaves us.

Neymar would, in my opinion, flop in our league. Nowhere near strong enough physically or mentally.

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Paul I thought you knew better.

Rooney will never come to Arsenal because it would represent a major disconnect in the way Arsenal goes about its business.

To offer a player 200k a week would cause major problems for our egalitarian wage structure.

Wenger does not see value for money in those kinds of figures and simply put: it will never happen.

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Rooney isn't happening because we can't afford any where near the wages he's on. If we could offer that kind of wages we would still have RVP.

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Lol seriously why do people want rooney i'd rather break my finger then have him at arsenal

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25 May 2013 12:04:57
Eds - don't suppose you know who the 2 clubs are who have bid for Neymar?

I don't rate him that much tbh but wouldn't turn him down if it was us lol

EMG {Ed027's Note - Barca & Madrid, it pretty obvious isn't it?

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25 May 2013 11:46:57
I would only take Rooney just so they know how we felt when they took judas from us. Other than that I feel there are way better players than Rooney out there for 25 or so mill.

Tw14 should get the central role next year. That boy is clinical even his stats say so, he's growing from strength to strength. If he continues at this rate he will be bigger than TH14. (Wow I can't believe I just said that).

Read a post further down and it was on about how we really don't need a dm, instead we could use a 2 man pivot ie Arteta and ramsey/goundagan (who I personally rate). this is an awesome idea btw.

I feel we really aren't too far from a treble winning side, all we need is a player in that bergkamp mould, a player who's not afraid to take on his man, can create space for others, can create an opportunity out of nothing and scores crucial goals (in spectacular fashion as well). We have really lacked such a player, a couple of years back I thought Nasri would have been that player, Rosicky as good as he is never really got there for me. Now to identify such a player is the real problem. What I mean is imagine this,

Arteta carzola ramseywilshere
Bergkamp
Walcottgiroud

Well I guess now you get my point, bergkamp was an exceptional talent and was an integral part in all the trophies we lifted under AW.

Do we really need benteke new striker? For depth purposes yes, but as a unit I feel we function better with Giroud or TW14, podolski has had his chance and I thought he was total dross, he lacks mobility, energy and the skill to be in that position.

Signing out.

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They didn't exactly kidnap RVP did they.

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25 May 2013 14:25:52
The difference is that RVP wanted to leave but we wanted him to stay, If Shrek leaves Utd it will be because they do not want him.

IMO, we have a much better looking team photo these days so I say let's not spoil it!

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Keep rooney out!

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25 May 2013 11:39:01
It's not a rumour but more of a gut feeling. I have been reading about all the Jovetic/Higuan rumours and various other players we are supposedly chasing. well we all know how Arsenal do business and we know that us the fans are always the last to know. so here's my hunch. Arsene will sign a proven goalscorer, another playmaker, a defensive midfielder and a centre back. Who can he buy that would operate with Giroud? I'm thinking it will be Lewandowski - creative midfielder Cesc back on loan/buy deal - Gonalons/Wanyama defensive midfield and Williams as the centre back - if he can pick up an experienced older keeper, that could also happen. I know Lewandowski seems a long shot but I think there's more chance of him joining us than any other English club - can't see Dortmund wanting to sell him to Bayern - Cesc is just a maybe but I think he might not be as happy at Barca as he expected - and he still loves Arsenal. I honestly think we are turning a corner this summer. we will shed some big earners and invest wisely. we have a good squad. depends on how much money City and Chelski spend. pity we missed out on Mata and Hazard but the timing and the money was wrong.

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Not really impressed with hazard or his ego either.

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25 May 2013 10:11:44
I suspect that if Neymar leaves and joins either barca or real, this would be the sinario;

Neymar Joins Real; Higuin is allowed to leave to join Arsenal/ Juventus

Neymar Joins Barca: Villa is allowed to leave to join Spurs.

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No if Neymar joins Barca, Real will get Bale.
But if Real get Neymar, Bale won't go Barca so he will stay in the prem and Spurs have a better chance of CL next season.

Little Gooner

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Well he's gone to barca so lucky spurs I guess

Paul {Ed029's Note - Not according to Ed02 on the Man U page.}

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Lol arsenal will still finish above spurs next season

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25 May 2013 09:34:24
Arsenal are considering swoop for Elm from CSKA moskow. Jovetic/higuin one would be making move to emirates. Gonsoles-gervinho swap deal is a possibility-oximorone gooner. thnx

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25 May 2013 07:49:47
Might get slated here but Ricky Lambert would be worth a punt in my eyes. Proven goal scorer in championship (30+) and premier league (20+) and overall decent target man.

Would be good to have on the bench of nothing else.

EMG

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Haha, good joke!

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He scored 15, not 20+ and is 31. No thank you.

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So on that would you take David Villa, I've been saying no for those very reasons since we were apparently linked

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Like an old roof you are going to be totally slated!

Have some ambition ffs!

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Would still be better than having Chamakh on the bench and only as an addition, not the only ST addition this summer. Didn't realise his age though tbf.

EMG

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Didn't realise either that he has recently said he will see his career out at Saints!
So, all in all EMG, a pretty uninformed post.

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25 May 2013 06:47:49
Does anyone agree? I hate to say this but I feel that we should sell Jack Wilshire now while we can. He is one of the best players in the country when he is playing but I feel he is long term injury prone.

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Go back to the spurs page

Paul

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25 May 2013 04:06:40
a couple of things I wanted to discuss.
first thing is about kroenke/gazidis. I have slated them in the past for not making substantial funds available in the transfer market but if they mean what they say by they want silverware and they give wenger this big warchest then i'll be prepared to give them a chance if they keep their word but we'll have to wait and see.
the other thing is regarding wilshire, I know he's having an op but i've got a feeling that we'll never get a full season out of him.

what do you guys think?


gooner mark

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Been thinking this a long time about wilshere to be honest. He is a great talent no doubt about it, but not only is he injury prone I fail to see what he provides at arsenal. He is neither world class at going forward as his goal scoring and assist rating will prove, and he is also not the class dm were all praying we sign this summer. I'm not for one second saying he won't find his feet and turn into one or the other, and he obviously has age on his side, but as Ramsey is quite clearly stepping up into the dm role at a dramatic pace since his injury woes are now obviously behind him, if jack can't stay fit and is going to be put into wengers protective bubble every time he gets a kick on the ankle how is he supposed to up his game into turning into the world class midfielder we're all hoping he will be? A few posts up someone suggests selling him now to get the most out of him as he is injury prone.
Now that's something we all thought a while back about doing with diaby but wenger has stuck by him. Could wilshere be another diaby but with even more potential and talent and every season we just get a little tease of what he is capable of before being out again injured? Food for thought isn't it?

Bradders (forgot to sign in but cba to re write that so just believe it is me)

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25 May 2013 03:51:15
Is jovetic deal realluld be great addition.

Any other players we have bid for or are negotiating a move?

Van persie is really Van pursestrings.
#peirs morgan. #gutter pic

Dal makhni gonner :p

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25 may 2013 03:09:38
i thought we need a better fwd than giroud. buying jovetic, sanogo is not going to do that, promising? yes but i really believe if arsenal are to challenge for the title this season we need 4 accomplished players who'l pose competition in their respective positions. i say 1)goaly> cb> cm> st'
diami, michu. benteke remi (st option)
hangaland, williams (cb option) fellani, diami, wanyama (cm option)

cash on arshavin, squilachy, santos, bendtna, djerou, denilson, chamark (: this useless garbage borden) any of these lot in our squad next season then i can confirm something is really wrong with the arsenal!

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25 May 2013 01:43:52
I'm not an insider, or know someone who works for Arsenal, but I do feel that these rumors being spread right now are smokescreens for other players.

I don't think Wenger has any intention to buy Jovetic or Higuain.

The player who is flying under the radar, who I feel should be looked at is Roberto Soldado. Soldado finished the La Liga season scoring 21 goals in 33 appearances (much better then Jovetic's ratio, which includes 12 goals), making him the 4th highest goalscorer behind Messi, Ronaldo, and Falcao.

His cost would be around 16-20 million pounds.

Here's a highlight vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQR8prHG66I

I think the deal hinges on if Valencia can qualify for the champs league. (they are tied for final spot, with a worse GD, with 2 games left)

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Agree. Typical Arsenal behaviour. The only player I can think of that we've been linked with and signed before is Podolski.

Both Higuain and Jovetic would be welcomed additions though.

EMG

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And arshavin EMG.

Bradders

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Er, I think you will find we were also linked with Cazorla and Giroud very recently and going back as far as Ian Wright there have been dozens!

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We were linked with cazorla and giroud like 2 weeks a the most before we signed them, podolski was linked for a season an half

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Soldado is a defianate buy

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25 May 2013 00:49:16
Ed, isn't Danny Simpson available on a free?

More than decent- wouldn't be my first choice, but for a free transfer he could ease some of my anxieties at right back.

What would everyone else think? {Ed027's Note - He is

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Is that you Danny?

If he comes anywhere near my club I'll be furious

Paul

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Very funny! Why do you think he is free?

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His contract is up this summer, hence, ergo, therefore. free

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He is also free to date now as well if you're interested and love him that much?

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Ok ok forget I mentioned it. Just stating an idea and that he's free. Could be a back-up.

His break-up isn't exactly headline news over here in the US.

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