Arsenal Banter Archive December 26 2012

26 Dec 2012 20:19:54
I think the problem with some people on this page is they treat it too much like 'football manager'. They're too quick complain when we lose (i know you'd usually just turn off your laptops before it has time to register/save). Yes some big changes in players or management might shake things up but is that a risk we really think will pay off? We are better set up for the future than a lot of people on this page make out. We have had a couple of bright prospects recently signing big contact extensions and have sustained high table finishes throughout our ground move. I think in a few years when the FFP rules come into effect we will find our club is already in a good position to accomodate them, and will be competitive in all competitions once more.

On Wenger, I think a lot of the criticism he receives is unjustified. He has been asked to perform much the same role as David Moyes at Everton. I think sometimes we, including myself, forget he has probably been asked to run the club with extreme financial caution for a few years until we are in the clear after our move to the Emirates. Obviously this is frustrating as fans but the long term stability of the club looks to benefit from this which is obviously more important to us. Wilshere's recent interview alluded to how much support Wenger still carries within the camp, stating that Arsene was the main reason for him wanting to commit his future to the club because of his managerial support and vision.

The buisness id like to see done in January is more to fill the holes in our squad that still seem apparent -

Etienne Capoue - An enforcing CDM to fill the gap left by Song. We seem to be lacking a good/natural link between defence and counter attack this year in Song's absence.

Jetro Willems - A bright prospect at LB, one for the future and already breaking into the dutch side.

Im on the fence over whether i think a striker should be brought in. Personally i think the money could be used towards Theo's contract dispute. However i also do not think a player of Walcott's inconsistency should be able to hold our club to ransom over an estimated 100k pw, if thats not what we can afford to offer. If Theo does leave id like us to take try and lure a player such as Isco over. The lad seems to have bags of pace, good control and a trick or two in him.

Hope everyones had a good Christmas, and has an even better new year!

Bear Gunner.

New striker > greedy Theo.

-Capoue just renewed his contract.

26 Dec 2012 18:54:53
how come qpr and fulham had their games on today but we didnt?
was it a very specific bunch of spuds tube drivers who went on strike?

paul

26 Dec 2012 20:01:40
Smaller crowds.

Stezza.

Unions ( what has ruined our beautiful country)

Because Arsenal has an agreement with the Council that at least 60% of supporters must travel by public transport, it was stipulated as an agreement/condition when we moved

26 Dec 2012 14:56:59
I think we accidentally funded Southamptons return to the pl and their academy. {Ed002's Note - Southampton are a very wealthy club.}

26 Dec 2012 14:55:26
I see Robin van Persie has woken from his coma sustained last weekend to start for Man United today!

SkaVadar72

26 Dec 2012 12:21:08
Just a topic i would like to discuss.

What do people think about playing Vermalaen as defensivie mid in some games. I would like to buy either Wanyama or Diame. But if not he could slip into our midfield he is good on the ball can make surging runs and score. If he makes a mistake there the defense will be behind him. This would also allow Koscielny to play some games which i would like to see because i thought he was quality last year and dont think he will want to sit on the bench forever.

Bournemouth Gooner

26 Dec 2012 14:50:02
I'd actually thought about Kos playing there earlier in the season and I guess your thoughts now relate to Luiz at Chelski. He looks great there but I think he's always had that ability but with Kos and Vermaelen it would be a make do i think. They're better CB's.

The other problem with us and a new CDM is the fact Arsene likes to show trust and faith in players, namely Arteta and Coquelin which for me unfortunately means he wont buy in that position. Hope I'm wrong.

Stoner

Wouldnt be opposed. Kos deserves more game time anyway.

Well this has be mentioned before, i think Kos can be better there cause he reads the game excellent and is more of fighter than Vermaellen.

Armakedon

For me Kos or Verm would be brilliant there but maybe Kos pips it for me, he loves bringing the ball forward more than Verm whereas Verm likes to be an extra body for a cross into the box. Kos will dribble from defence to attack sometimes, he's rapid....he'd be perfect in a 4132 or 4123 formation imo.

Metal Gooner

26 Dec 2012 16:24:25
Wenger has you all at it. How about we play and buy players for the positions they were meant rather than having a while team out of position.
Has anyone thought of Chamakh in goal yet?

TV should be given a go at DM, Kos is a better defender IMO!

TV is often first to step up from the back 4 leaving space for the opposition to exploit as we all know Per is a great defender but has the pace of a 80 year old!

I'd rather buy a cdm but i just want to see Koscielny play more one of my favourite players at the club.

Bournemouth Gooner

26 Dec 2012 03:56:32
I know Pato wants a move to brazil, but if he is leaving Milan and Milan are willing to sell, then would it be too crazy to make a move for him then?

Having Pato in our team would be great wouldn't it?
Pato, Walcott, Podolski, Giroud.
that's the kind of strike force we need.

We should try to bring him in as it may be one of his interests to move to the Premier League, with CL football aswell.

Plus, I'm starting to understand and come around to the idea that we need a no nonsense yet technically gifted DM.

M'vila, despite his off field situations, would still be a welcomed addition as Wenger could make him a better player and would be good for our style of play.
He would also allow Arteta to play further up the pitch with Wilshere, so Cazorla could push out wide and the remaining two spots would be filled by Pato/Giroud/Podolski/Walcott.
He would also protect the back four and start counter attacks.

Thoughts?

Nick.

26 Dec 2012 07:37:20
Can someone please explain why Wenger has given Ramsey another contract. The man is not a PL player and frankly should not even be in the Arsenal Team. He has no vision, cannot control a ball, cannot pass a ball and is generally a total waste of time.

Because it will increase his value if his contract is longer and they decide to sell in the summer

I meant thoughts on my post, but this is cool too.

Ramsey is a decent squad player, but definitely not a winger.
If we have injuries and he gets played at CM then I'm okay with that.

Nick.

Why would we want another injury prone player? Sure if he got fit he would be quality but wayyyyyyyy to much of a risk.

And to the above stop slating ramsey, hes still young and has plenty to give. In a few years time he will show his full potential.

26 Dec 2012 01:32:05
Derek Branning died today in Albert Square (Eastenders)...which one of you kicked a football at him ?

26 Dec 2012 00:58:40
Pato anyone?He was regared as one of the best youngsters about but had a few injury setbacks plus he's not playing at his current club.I think Wenger would make him into a worldclass player within 1-2 years and if worst comes to worst we could sell him for a decent profit.