Arsenal Banter Archive January 26 2013

26 Jan 2013 21:11:16
Why why why santos.......what about j mead or m angha both have to be better options at least if they play sh*t then they will gain experience and get better santos will never improve seriously think he is getting worse by the day :/

Baz136.

Meade is injured unfortunately.

Aussie Gunnah

Angha wasn't tho

26 Jan 2013 20:35:58
Ok santos is crap but mertesacker is a joke for me he's clumsy slow and gets outjumped by smaller players I hope he gets sold in the summer I'd prefer shawcross or Chico guys please let me kno wat you think.
Imranredman

Yeah, proven german international is cr*p. Yeah, some unknown spanish guy with 5 good games in PL(2 of them against us) is better than him. You know what I think... I think you are wrong. This season Merte is claas. Today against brighton is his only below par game... Sadly I can not say that about tommy v. This season he is not the same, but in the recent matches he regain his form. Merte is exposed, because of Vermaelen's weak form and the lack of one true DM. This season Merte is one of the best defenders in the league. Maybe only Kompany is better than him..

Your wrong, that's what I think

1404

Another blinkered gooner, 2nd best in the league?oh come on. And we get annoyed at wenger for exactly the Same thing. Of course football is about opinions but no doubting yesterday santos was awful but pers for the goals was at fault as well

Shaneyd

You reckon mertesacker is better than shawcross or even Chico is a joke it's because of mertesacker we concede all those goals he's a liability would mertesacker play for united, city, Chelsea or even liverpool I don't think so edd can I have your take on clumsy mertesacker please {Ed001's Note - I am not a fan of his, he is tall but his jump is non-existent, leading him to be beaten in the air far too often. His lack of pace forces the defence to play too deep, stretching the midfield out or isolating the forwards, which interferes badly with a passing style.}

I agree with the comment above Mertasaker is decent defender when you play a deeper defensive line. To me I think he would make a good sweeper in back 3 mopping up behind 2 more aggressive CB's.

He does read the game well but lacks the physical attributes of pace and acceleration to play in higher line that we do. His touch and passing although safe is not sharp enough and too slow for our game.He is the type of player that you need just to intercept the ball and play it simple to a team-mate straight away. No offence to him but the least time he has on the ball the better really.

26 Jan 2013 19:26:30
Wenger more or less dismissed chances of a striker coming in and it's a bit disappointing, i'll admit.

on the flipside, even with RVP's chocolate leg working overtime, we scored 94 goals in all competitions. this season- we're already at number 76 after today, and that's after missing so many chances and not showing up for a lot of games.

this Arsenal side's like a soap opera!

psychocyst.

We don't have a problem with scoring goals, it's the other end that needs fixing, our front 6 must always be conscious of defending and they really shouldn't be, if the defence does its job the rest of the team can play more freely

1404

I know. the defense gets almost no solid cover in the middle and our players out wide focus more on attack than defense.

the back four do themselves so favours either. any long diagonal ball is sure to get through to its man and if God forbid a ball is player straight over the top, we left with hopes that the opposition messes up.
were it not for Mert's positional sense, we'd be goners!

and amidst all of these issues, what players are we linked with? a striker and attacking midfielders. *facedesk*

psychocyst.

26 Jan 2013 19:18:37
what is wrong with our defence every time the ball goes into our box I nearly s### my shorts can somebody sort it out

limerick gunner

If you pop down the Chemist and ask for some Immodeum, it should sort you right out.

Melbourne CFC

26 Jan 2013 18:44:25
Welcome back Champagne Charlie, hope you enjoyed the break mate.

Stoner

Cheers stoner,

feel let down yet again, 5 days till the window shut ans still no sniff of a signing.

had a dream we get man utd some where down the line in the cl or fa cup.
24 years sine we beat them in 79 and rvp went for £24 mill, maybe an omen?

he has to be going for a huge signing as dm, can't see the logic in not buying 1 at the start of january unless he's going for some 1 of the calibre of de-rossi..this is the problem with the back 4 their always out of position because there always on the attack.

good win today I hope we get utd in the final.

champagne charlie

26 Jan 2013 22:11:10
Charlie,

I would love us to spend the wedge on Wanyama and Hummels, not interested in midfielders or attackers, we have plenty of attacking options right now, we just need to sort the f***ing defence out and we'll be fine.

Add more in the summer but shore us up properly and let the boys at the front play. Don't give a rats about cup tied either, slim to no chance of champs league, we need fourth and a proper shot at the FA Cup to get the ball rolling this season then carry on building.

Stoner

Yes charlie a welcome return! you're going to have a load more likeminded-wenger-bashers on here if there isn't at least one significant addition to the team. I see a loan for a second rate player at most and a struggle like we have never seen before.

redgoon

26 Jan 2013 18:00:13
Marks for game today

Sczensy 5:- Although made a good save earlier was at fault for 1st goal. Needed to be stronger and attack the cross as it was right inside his area. Our Zonal system meant it was his ball.

Jenkinson 7:- Decent defending wise and supported attacks when he could.

Kosceilny 6:- O.K individually but as with rest of defence needs better oraganisation and communication.

Mertasaker 5:- Got caught wrong side for 2nd goal although it was a good dangerous cross. Need to to lead the back line better. often playing offside too much rather than getting goalside. Lack of pace is concern.

Santos 3:- Diaster really, never a LB. Does not look fit enough to cover the ground and positional all over the place, slow closing down for 2nd goal we conceeded. Brighton really exploited his weakness. Not good enough simply put.

Ramsey 6:- Usual O.k but not great. Not much to say works hard but not really incisive further forward.

Diaby 6:- O.k aswell some good runs here and there but needs game time to build up his stamina.

Rosicky 8:- Good found space and time, provided our main incisive threat early on before tiring to be replaced.

Ox 6:- Some good runs but sometimes tries to do too much.

Podolski 7:- Dangerous of left hand side and as always worked well with Gibbs once he came on.

Giroud 9:- Our star player without doubt today. Lead the line well excellent movement off the defenders and provides our only true threat inside the box. 2 well taken goals and could of had couple more.

Subs

Wilshire 7:- replaced Rosicky and continued were Rosicky finished driving forward.

Walcott 7:- Good threat later in game against tired legs. Pace scares defenders. Although should have provided Giroud with a simply hatrick late on.


Gibbs 7:- Miles better than Santos although that is not hard. He seems to link really well with Podolski down left. Some dangerous forward runs late in game.


Wenger 6:- Actually made a positive influence with bringing on Whilshire and Walcott late in game to continue forward drive. Should not have started Santos though.


Ryan

Both Podolski and Ramsey deserve better marks than that, Wenger has too see the Pod is probably our most dangerous player in the in front of goal, works hard, great passer, great vision, deadly finisher, looks half the player out wide.
Hope fully Jenko did enough today to be considered, his crossing is superb and I think a more alert defender than Sagna.
Not even going to get on the Santos subject, woeful.

1404

26 Jan 2013 17:53:05
Tricky cup tie dealt with 'just' now get your check book out an get villa an diame an let's win the fa cup an get fourth place come on arsene

26 Jan 2013 17:22:51
Wenger has to shoulder some of the blame for the performancewho changes 3 out of 4 dafenders for a game you ould like to win
Yanman

26 Jan 2013 17:09:15
3-2 win in the end, again making it harder for ourselves with some sloppy defending on both conceeded gaols.

Brighton played well look a decent passing side but both goals were more than avoidable. Sczensy should have claimed the first easily it was in his area he has to be stronger and attack to clear the ball. 2nd Santos slow to close down and Mertasaker getting wrong side although was a good cross.

Bad points:-

Defending from wide crosses and set pieces needs a lot of work. Steve Bould needs to get working in training. Defenders need to start taking responsibility and clear their lines. And start getting goal side rather than overplaying the offside trap all the time.

Santos is just a liability at LB, Brighton really exploited his weakness. He does not look fit or quick enough for a start and positionally all over the place.

Good Points:-


Giroud was excellent or best player today lead the line well good movement and two well taken goals. For his first season he is doing well.

Rosicky -- Although Tired due to lack of games near end always managed to find some time and space and a danger on the counter. Good to have him as a option.


Also Wenger actually made subs that actually had a positive effect on the game, although he should have never played Santos in first place.

26 Jan 2013 17:04:37
Andre Santos, one of the worst players I've ever seen in an Arsenal shirt - truley a pathetic excuse for a player, can't believe the money spent on him and Wenger harps on about value for money, might as well have give £7m to charity than spend it on that fat, lazy ****


AG

26 Jan 2013 16:51:50
Santos hasn't just become a bad left back. He's always been a bad left back. Which leaves us asking the question why did Wenger pay 6.2 million for him.
Don't blame the player. Blame the man that bought him, and hasn't been able to improve him.
Well play Giroud :-)
Flybo

Exactly.
ivan gazidas did not sign this player and give him £55k a week, that was wengers doing.
when he disrespected the shirt at old trafford he should of been shifted january the 1st on a free.

champagne charlie

Enrique join liverpool for about 2million less that summer as well madness absolute madness {Ed002's Note - Enrique cost Liverpool £7M.}

26 Jan 2013 16:12:10
Totally agree with the Santos comments. His first half performance was truly shocking.

Hes less fit than I am, and that's saying something.

He clearly has ZERO interest and is more suited for a beach footy league in Brazil.

What was that ridiculous shot from 35yards before half? Are you joking me? How about trying something remotely intelligent Santos.

Lucky call on the offsides, otherwise it could be 2-1 all thanks to the lazy Brazilian.

26 jan 2013 17:51:23
next time santos starts i aren't going embrassment to our team....but wenger still loves him..whos the nutty professor....anyway lucky we scraped through, home game will be nice in next round (luton) please !

26 Jan 2013 16:04:05
And don't get me started on santos there is no player I want rid of more than him just cancel his contract arsenal he's shocking it's like Brighton have 12 men

Goonertillidie

26 Jan 2013 16:01:42
Zonal f**king marking doesn't wenger fu**ing learn and what is santos doing on the pitch
Wake up arsenal

GS

26 Jan 2013 15:55:34
1-1 sloppy from Sczesny it was in his zone and did not attack the ball to catch it or punch clear. Again its down to organisation and communication.

Santos is never a LB and worries everytime. You can see Brighton are trying to focus their attacks down that side because they know of his weakness. They look dangerous from that wide right position.

Good point well take goal from Giroud and Rosicky is finding space aswell on the counter.

26 Jan 2013 15:53:54
Sell Santos after this game.

Why wait til after the game, get rid at half time!

26 Jan 2013 15:51:37
Andre Santos, your a liability!!!

N. Wales Gunner

26 Jan 2013 15:37:28
Fk me Santos is useless! Why one earth is this man still an Arsenal player! Makes me mad! Every game he plays in gibbs position we in trouble!

26 Jan 2013 15:33:44
Andre Santos?? What a Joke Wenger....

Wenger obviously thinks santos has exceptional quality, otherwise he wouldn't have bought him.

Makes me sick whenever I see him in an arsenal shirt. Terrible player. Need competition 4 Gibbs from a decent young left back. He has no reason 2 worry about that muppet. Surely wenger has to see this

At least he's enthusiastic about training, he gets there at 2am! LOL

Den

Obviously Wenger was wrong.

26 Jan 2013 14:44:22
Great to see rosicky back again, about the same time last season he returned and helped drag us to 4th place. Quality forward thinking player

Shaneyd

26 Jan 2013 13:05:45
Come on Arsene... why the hell are you so interested in what Pardew or Newcastle are doing? If they want to sign 100 players, it's their prerogative and their funds. The league will not change the transfer format for you. Worry instead about what you are going to do about ARSENAL FC! Reading about this crap on the news instead of signing someone is really frustrating.

Borneo Gunner

26 Jan 2013 12:20:32
Keep calm boys, Arsene will bring in two players before deadline day, frustrating we know, but support the gunners, remember we are Arsenal and we do things right, in Arsene we believe.DEVON GUNNER.

Support arsenal? Absolutely! 2 players to sign before the window closes? Absolutely not!

Borneo Gunner

26 Jan 2013 11:50:22
I think the reason why wenger has back tracked about looking at certain players is I think we have been nocked back and every player we were talking to/looking at hasn't gone to plan so he is covering himself.

charlie gooner 4 life

26 Jan 2013 10:17:34
Bit late, but can someone explain why kos only got a 1 game ban for the red card against City? I thoight a straight red was 3 games now?

3 games for violent conduct. He was sent off for a foul committed for being the last defender, stopping a goalscoring opportunity, hence a one match ban.

3 games is for for violent conduct

26 Jan 2013 10:02:13
it all seems a bit strange on the Frimpong front.. he looked like a real prospect before injury ..is he messing arsenal about regards contract..... mind you I could easliy dream of a swap loan deal frimops for berbatov....

yorky gunner

26 Jan 2013 14:57:51
imo, he is an average player and will be sold in the summer. he is too worried about being a celebrity and not a footballer. only the other night he appeared to be involved in a twitter fight with a charlton player. {Ed002's Note - He would need to sign a new contract in order to be sold in the summer.}

26 Jan 2013 04:20:31
Wenger at his best....

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I will be active, yes. We are looking everywhere. We are open-minded. We want to strengthen the squad everywhere.� � 1st January

It's very difficult because the level of expectation is very high. People want to see Lionel Messi. They don't want to see a promising guy.� � 4th January

We now have Rosicky and Diaby available again. If you look at our squad, it's quite complete but we still work in the transfer market as well. We do not want to bring in average players. We only want to bring in an exceptional player. At the moment we have not found him. You are always under pressure to buy in England and every problem has to be sorted out by buying people.� � 11 January

We are in the market. To find players of a calibre of Arteta, available in January, I wish you good luck.� � 13th January

First of all we want to sort out the injuries we have, and we are trying very hard to close the deal with Walcott. Once we have done that, we will certainly do something else. At the moment I cannot tell you more. We have some improvements to make and we know exactly where. In January it is difficult to find the players that are really better and can give something special to the squad.� � 15th January

All the players who can strengthen us are cup-tied in the Champions League.� � 17th January

We are looking at him, but at the moment we have not made any bid for him. I don't know if Manchester United are in for him.� � 17th January

We were never in for Zaha. Never� If Zaha goes to Manchester United, good luck to him.� � 21st January

We want to make things happen from inside the club. We have the resources to do well.� � 25th January

It's a wrong market. The only clubs who sell are in financial trouble and players who move are unhappy. It's unfair.� � 25th January

The gamble is much bigger than during the summer. The number of players you are allowed to sign should be limited.� � 25th January

If someone else can strengthen our squad, we will do it of course, but we have the resources inside to do well. We have two players in every position, that should be enough, plus the young players in behind. But if we find the top-class players in any position, we never refuse to strengthen our squad.� � 25th Janaury

26 Jan 2013 09:04:57
wenger the biggest wind up going, arsenal fans have been biten there nails since jan 1st......man you 1 min like zaha next min they get him that's how a club should be run ..wenger we have got diaby and rosicky back ...wow! you never no they might play 5 games each until next season, massive signings that will do wonders for the club

Proves

1) Wenger talks out of his arse
2) he has no respect for the fans
3) He either doesn't understand the market or plays dumb, or both
4) He will not compete to sign any player ever unless they are under £3m - the only player we have signed in the last 2 years who we had competition for was Park! No joke.
5) He has no clue about talent.

They all seem like pretty rational statements. What's your point?

Sadly this is classic Arsene and year in year out these kind of remarks are becoming all too familiar. We are a long, long way behind the City, UTD and Chelsea's of the world and light years behind side's like Barca and Madrid. Recent results against our rivals magnified this tenfold. Thrashing the Hammers on Wednesday was the worst thing that could have happened. They played a much weakened side due to injuries and Big Sam not wanting to risk some of his key players like Jarvis, Cole and Diame.
I keep hearing that this summer will be a summer of great change at Arsenal. Summer may prove to be too late when we miss out on the Champion's League.
Does anybody really expect change in the Summer I for one do not. Arsene doesn't do change.
And what of now. We can only hope that in the final days of the transfer window we manage to sign these 2 players to strengthen the team. But don't hold your breath. Hope I'm proved wrong.
Alsager Gooner

I think what this tells us reading between the lines is that yes we were in for some players but they chose different clubs as we are no longer as an attractive club option for players!

R.D.

26 Jan 2013 00:12:46
Ridiculous, pathetic attempts to confuse everybody all the time. It is the managers responsibility to get the best players the club can afford and try to win things.
Does this manager do that, no he doesn't so he and this impotent board must go !
We want winners not also ranks ! Wenger must go for the sake of our sanity !

Old Gooner

25 Jan 2013 23:55:13
Team for tomorrow

Szecs
Jenko kosci mert meade
Ramsey diaby
Walcott rosicky ox
Giroud

Subs
Sagna gibbs wilshere podolski eisfeld gnabry

We should win comfortably ...
.we should hopefully come out straight from the blocks....2 -3 nil up and give eisfeld and gnabry a run out
Cazorla and jack should be rested and meade instead of
santos

GS

Wilshere is captain, he must start

danijel

Meade is injured

Wenger won't risk his precious diaby

So Wenger announces that Wilshere is captain and then puts him on the bench, i'm started to suspect he couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it

1404

25 Jan 2013 22:59:19
So Frimpong has gone to Fulham till the end of the season, i'm sure his contract runs out at the end of this season.

Is he renewing his contract or could this be bye bye

I think sadly its bye bye baring a miracle. Shame as I would have liked to have seen him play alongside his buddy Jack.

Naz

26 Jan 2013 15:29:59
well you have to look at jack and then look at frimpong to get a pretty good idea why. jack got his head down, got on with his life, worked hard off the pitch, behaved exceptionally well, raised his son some more...ramsey was the same after his injury.

frimpong has the mental output of a 15 year old, his focus seems to be on football last even when he's fit, he's too busy selling t shirts, bigging up grime rappers, dating girls with swag and chatting breeze on twitter. it's all very well saying 'i am focused' but if you don't act it then nobody will believe you. he doesn't seem to be all that focused at all. he might get a contract for another year, but for me that would surely only be if he absolutely nails it for fulham - and he won't if he doesn't play.

i really really want to see him in action and turn his fortunes around, I really do, we could have an exceptional midfielder on our hands but the club will give up on him if he doesn't show the right attitude. end of the day he has jack, gibbs, ramsey and theo who have suffered big or regular injuries, they want him to stay, so if he hasn't got the gist of what it takes at the top level then so be it. guy needs to grow up a bit.

25 Jan 2013 20:56:16
frimpong has joined fulham on loan untill the end of the season. good move if he comes back as I think he's a top prospect but a lot of reports claiming he's out of contract in the summer and will be allowed to leave which I think would be a real shame. ed do have any knowledge as to whether wenger has lost patience with him or if you think he'll return to stay will arsenal for the long term? {Ed027's Note - i heard he was out of contract too, not reliable thouh, i hope he stays, if anything he has improved his behaviour, though now he's on loan to a established Prem club rather than a bottom half championship side