Arsenal Banter Archive January 26 2016

26 Jan 2016 21:57:27
I think the club should consider selling Walcott, welbeck and the ox if we get around 15mil for each players all are squad players at best and are highly overpayed and not been performing we need upgrades proper players not speed merchants who can't cross or shoot also I don't think Theo or ox work hard enough defensively.

26 Jan 2016 22:16:44
Theo got a big pay rise in the summer for?
Jacks just got one for the same reason as Theo surely mertesacker and Ox are over due one by those standards.

26 Jan 2016 22:36:20
Sell 3 english players who add good depth? don't think so mate. Arteta and flamini and rosicky replacements will do fine and hopefully a replacement for caz such as isco.2 big signings would do us fine.

26 Jan 2016 23:04:41
Agree with Laker,
Our only departures will be Wiggy, Flam and Rosicky.

27 Jan 2016 03:11:44
'Squad players at best' are important. Admittedly, fit squad players are preferred but I for one want good squad depth because every season we seem to struggle when we lose a few first team players simultaneously. Selling both Theo and Walcott will leave us in a sticky situation should Giroud get injured or lose form.

We have the finances to at least keep onto players and not sell them before even upgrading. Players like Flamini should be sold, in my opinion, because he does not offer enough quality and shouldn't be considered, even as a squad player.

27 Jan 2016 03:11:44
'Squad players at best' are important. Admittedly, fit squad players are preferred but I for one want good squad depth because every season we seem to struggle when we lose a few first team players simultaneously. Selling both Theo and Walcott will leave us in a sticky situation should Giroud get injured or lose form.

We have the finances to at least keep onto players and not sell them before even upgrading. Players like Flamini should be sold, in my opinion, because he does not offer enough quality and shouldn't be considered, even as a squad player.

27 Jan 2016 08:55:47
Perfect,
How much will we get if we sold "both Theo and Walcott? " Lol.

27 Jan 2016 10:03:47
50 mill per name as he is english.

27 Jan 2016 11:36:05
2 Theo's would be handy although maybe still not enough complete 30 games a season or turn up in more than 50% of games, I'm not sure it there's an FA ruling on the amount of Theo Walcott's you can have for 1 squad number but it could be worth finding out :-)

27 Jan 2016 11:43:51
Dags I would sell walcott but keep theo he is a lot faster :)

27 Jan 2016 11:36:05
2 Theo's would be handy although maybe still not enough complete 30 games a season or turn up in more than 50% of games, I'm not sure it there's an FA ruling on the amount of Theo Walcott's you can have for 1 squad number but it could be worth finding out :-)

27 Jan 2016 11:43:51
Dags I would sell walcott but keep theo he is a lot faster :)

27 Jan 2016 12:30:05
Sorted,
Sell Theo but keep Walcott.

Or, keep him and play Theo 1st half, Walcott 2nd half?

27 Jan 2016 06:35:28
Surely not. As a club is only allowed 17 'foreign' players in their 25 man squad it makes no sense whatsoever to sell three of the homegrown contingent, bearing in mind that you have to replace them with fellow homegrown players.
I suggest that the players to depart may be:
Arteta
Flamini
Rosicky
Jenkinson.

27 Jan 2016 13:39:19
Haha

*both Theo and Welbeck.

27 Jan 2016 14:39:34
To be fair this is the Ox first poor spell and he has age on his side still, for Theo it really is a case of if he can't do it by now when will he ever be able to.

27 Jan 2016 17:05:48
Theo has been poor of late. But when he played as a striker earlier in the season, we could all see a very good player. It hasn't helped having all the injuries and Theo having to play left wing - not having a left foot hasn't helped. Steve r made the point a few days ago that it doesn't help players to not have a settled position in the team. This not only applies to Theo, but Aaron too.

We can only judge Theo has a striker - now with the injured coming back, hopefully we can see him vying for the striker role which helps competition and will give Giroud a breather.

So in summary, keep Theo, play in a forward role and reap the rewards!

27 Jan 2016 18:53:34
To be fair earlier in the season when everyone ( almost everyone ) was fit Theo did look good up top and I totally agree if he's ever to be more than a just a half decent player its down the middle.
The problem we have is can he score the decisive goals in tight games when we're not at full strength or at our best to win us the title! Or is he a fair weather striker only?

26 Jan 2016 18:56:15
Evening gents, how's it going? Was wondering who you guys thought of as the more likely to tie down the right mid position over the next 5 years or so, the ox or Campbell? Personally at the moment, Campbell wins that battle all day long. But does ox have more potential than Campbell, in the loing term? It's a tough one to call.

26 Jan 2016 19:21:30
Ox has been poor all season, albeit injuries and Campbell has done a very decent job.

That said, let's go and get my boy Mahrez.
What an upgrade.

26 Jan 2016 22:11:50
The Ox has been agonizing to watch so far this season. There was a huge opportunity for him to cement a place in the starting line up and he totally fluffed his lines. Decision making all over the pitch has been panicky and massively disappointing.

I wish to see him flourish more than any other player, we've seen the potential, now he has to work hard to realise it. Maybe he's having some problems in his personal life that would go some way to explaining his apparent lack of interest and intensity that was so evident in him initially. I'm confident that he'll turn it round, he has the capacity to be a truly great player and therefore worth patience.

Campbell on the other hand has been really impressive. He has seemingly learnt from those around him, carving himself a place in the squad through accentuating the strengths of the team. A quality that Wenger admires and obviously prefers.

Of course they may not even be in direct competition long term, as Wenger has spoken of Chamberlain's capacity to play centrally, indeed his versatility is another asset.

There is the assertion that nailing down a spot and specialising in a position is crucial for successful longevity. However I feel an intelligent player should thrive in influence matches from different areas and vary your game. Especially in this age of scrutinizing analysis that exposes obvious trends in an individuals play.

Anyway, let's hope both are picking up a Premier League winner's medal come May!

26 Jan 2016 15:57:18
Kompany back I two weeks, coq back in two weeks, I think both teams will benifit greatly from both, the key will be wich one gets up to pace quickest and stays fit. City with kompany are a different team and so are we.

26 Jan 2016 19:23:44
Agree Steve, both players are big misses for their respective clubs.

Was hoping we were going to amass a few points during Kompany's injury, but alas.

Nice to see Vertongen could be out for the season. Big loss for Spuds.

26 Jan 2016 19:43:57
News to me dags, yes a big loss if correct.

{Ed025's Note - nice for someone to be out for the season dags??...you just went down in my estimation of you mate.. :(

26 Jan 2016 19:58:14
I know Ed,
It will be hard for him.
5 months off work on a measly £90,000 per week sickness pay.
Probably go home to Belgium, go bed late, get up late and chill out all day.
It's a hard life mate :-)

{Ed025's Note - but it could be sanchez, ozil or cech dags, its not nice to wish ill on anyone and its not about money or time off, players want to play..

26 Jan 2016 20:51:21
I know Ed,
But you know me, always tongue in cheek mate.

26 Jan 2016 22:20:30
Vertongin cheek dags. Got to say i'm with you a good holiday would do him no harm at all.

26 Jan 2016 23:06:05
Nice play on words Steve :-)

26 Jan 2016 11:09:36
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Barcelona Defender Dismisses Social Media Investigation As Henderson Backs Klopp's Training Methods At Liverpool + More

26 Jan 2016 10:24:43
Why won't you publish any of my posts? What am I doing wrong? I'm a long time reader of this forum and took the time to actively participate in some of the discussions but without any success. what do i have to do to expres my opinion?

{Ed001's Note - there is just one post from you that has been received and that has been posted.}

26 Jan 2016 12:40:03
And you have to like my jokes :-)

{Ed001's Note - no one likes your jokes dags!}

26 Jan 2016 14:22:45
Ed,
I don't even like my jokes :-)

Speaking of jokes.
Did you know there has been a jump in the number of suicides?

26 Jan 2016 16:58:03
There will be many more after that attempt dags.

{Ed001's Note - please don't draw attention to it, I was hoping to let it slip off the page unnoticed.}

26 Jan 2016 19:25:12
Ed,
Are you talking about Chris or my joke? :-)

{Ed001's Note - both.....}

26 Jan 2016 07:09:59
My thoughts from afar. I have not posted since just after the last Chelsea loss when I felt our 9 men played well and we had good hope for the season. This time our 10 men did also play well but the fact we went down to 10 was a self inflicted (in oh so many senses) disaster. Cannot blame the ref this time even though Costa was playing to get Mert sent off rather than trying to score.
For me the rest of the season hinges almost entirely on Coquelin. Wenger won't play with a proper DM unless it is Le Coq or so it seems. I thought Chambers looked good as a DM in the 2 games he was tried there but Wenger persists with Flamini despite this fact and our now having Elneny. (Of couse no one seems to know what sort of a player Elneny is - perhaps he is really here to replace Ospina. )
So far in the leauge we have won 7 drawn 2 lost 1 in games that Le Coq has played (and not got injured) in. In other games we are w6 d4 l3. And in 2 of our losses this year (1st Chelsea one and WBA) Le Coq got injured in the first halves and we fell apart in those game sonly after he went off.
So I read he will be back by Feb 2 - i. e. our next league game. So how are we going to stop Le Coq experiencing the predictable Arsenal "relapse" or "setback" before then?