Arsenal Banter Archive January 26 2019

 

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26 Jan 2019 20:21:46
Really pleased with Maitland Niles progress and if I'm honest at little surprised too as he was looking a little familiar to many others we've come and quickly disappear but the more I see the more I rate him.

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27 Jan 2019 07:07:40
Totally agree but if he keeps filling in at RB he’ll leave. Certainly in danger of another quality player leaving us imo. He needs to regular playing time in midfield.

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27 Jan 2019 07:50:54
Agree 62. I just can’t wait to see the guy play CM 😂.

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27 Jan 2019 09:44:14
He may well get his turn at CB 93 mate but might Cech at this rate:-) ideally I'd like to see Maitland Torreira Guendouzi as our midfielder 3 from what we currently have available.

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27 Jan 2019 11:04:55
Maybe he'll be a better midfielder but I've been wondering what everyone sees in him as a RB - other than the fact that we don't really have any other options since Bellerin got injured. I don't think he's awful but he's certainly bang average and nothing special.

Watching games, myself and others can't get over his lack of defensive nous and he's so lackadaisical on the ball he could get caught out in a dangerous area one day. Wenger and Emery have given him pitch time so there must be something somebody sees.

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27 Jan 2019 16:25:24
I think his time at the back covering Belerin will stand him in good stead when he returns to midfield in the future, hopefully that will be for us and not another club but I think he has a premier league future.

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27 Jan 2019 20:33:26
Personally i think Cech might be out best cb if tried 🤦🏻‍♂️ I know that nobody rates him, but the stats on when Xhaka is and isn’t it the squad show why Emery is playing him, I personally think he is a liability but we need some muscle in the middle and for now he provides it. He was possibly our best player against United, had Sanchez in his pocket all game. He slipt off to the left to score.

AMN has a lot of promise, i'd like to see abit more of willock if Ramsey goes this month.

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26 Jan 2019 13:22:09
Do we really want Ivan Perisic, he will be 30 next season. Another player we will need to place in 2021
Please build for the future by adding mid-twenties aged players who will grow with your vision Emery and challenge top 3 in 2 seasons. None of these old players that top clubs are happy to release. We wil always be 4 players away from being good. Fed up with that record.

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26 Jan 2019 15:07:38
I believe its a loan with an "option" to buy. It may or may not work out but i see no problem with that.

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26 Jan 2019 15:32:09
Put right a decade of poor defensive management and we might stand a chance but if we simply continue to change faces without the clubs attitude to the importance of defence then we will continue to be on the sidelines.
When Klopp got the defence right Liverpool excelled while prior to that they were brilliant one week and easy pickings the next.
You just can't do anything of significance without being good at the back, that's always been the way in football.

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26 Jan 2019 15:43:44
It makes little sense to sign Perisic Noa permananet deal as he will be 30 next month and reports say that Inter want a permanent deal, not a loan.
We appear to be hitting the same problem with each loan deal, as clubs appear to only want a loan if the deal is made permanent during the next window.
I wish the club would give a proper explanation as to why we are only able to make loan signings during this window and not even defer making the signings permanent during the next window.
We have lost 3 players for the remainder of the season and possibly Sokratis as well. Surely we must bring in at least a couple of players. Quite what will happen in the summer is beyond me. Cech and Ramsey will depart. Welbeck is also likely to go and others such as Martinez, Jenkinson, Elneny and Ozil may move on. That is 7 squad players, who will need replacing. After the summer signibgs, I was expecting 2 or 3 during this window and then a further 4 or 5 in the summer, as the squad Emery inherited was/ is in desperate need of overhauling.

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26 Jan 2019 16:04:57
I may be wrong here but i'm sure if a suitable defender was gettable in this window, i'm pretty sure we would be in there but are there any better than we have, available? Maybe if kos is longer term maybe we will get a replacement. But i'm pretty sure any top central defender won't be allowed to leave in the middle of the season, they are like hens teeth.

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26 Jan 2019 16:43:17
It's no good us complaining about what we can't do it makes more sense to look to avenues we can explore in.
There must be at least half a dozen defenders playing at championship level who would improve us, Rob Holding came from a struggling Bolton and Guendouzi was in the French second division last season.
Every fan can pick a fantasy football side from their limited knowledge but surely from the wealth of knowledge within the club from scouts coaches to Dick himself there must be knowledge of untapped talent Just waiting to be noticed.

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26 Jan 2019 16:58:26
Gunner, do you honestly think the majority of our fans would accept a central defender from the championship or french second division and wait while we develop him. It all sounds great if you have time and patience on your side but i can't see the fans accepting signing potent, when they want instant impact. I personally hope we address the defence properly and with proven quality in the summer and not hope halfway through a season we can promote a championship defender to blood in. Remember Rob Holding has been with us two sesons and was just starting to show his abilities. A player has to come and be ready to jump into the fire or it won't work.

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26 Jan 2019 17:06:26
Potential, not potent. LOL.

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26 Jan 2019 18:02:03
I agree Steve that had we signed Kante and Mahrez in the summer of 2015 for 5.5 million most fans would have been in uproar in August but dreamland the following May then agony as we sold Kante:-)
Fortune favours the brave quite often but seldom those who do nothing rather than take a chance.

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26 Jan 2019 18:13:10
Any fool can be fan lead into signing players that make them popular short term but it's always worth remembering fans have short memories when the milk they asked for turns sour, the genius is in signing players who improve you that fans grow to love and appreciate after seeing them play.

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26 Jan 2019 19:01:31
Rather sign potential than an over the hill defender.

It’s not exciting signing a defender but it’s also no fun seeing our defence playing like a Sunday league pub team.

To be fair our defence wouldn’t be good enough for the Championdhip so if we signed a good up and coming brutish centre half then I would be happy especially if our strategy was shared with the fans

Forest have a good young centrehslf and there’s a few in that league.

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26 Jan 2019 19:27:15
Personally I've always enjoyed watching top level defenders every bit as much as attacking players, I find a fantastic piece of defensive skill like a perfectly timed tackle in the box that saves a goal every bit as good to watch as a striker banging in a goal at the other end.
I know many fans don't share this view which is why some think Xhaka is worth playing in 38 games for those 3 long range goals he scores but for me keeper or striker they are equal in value to the team.

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26 Jan 2019 19:42:29
Sy, you would be the first to complain, if they signed someone from a lower league and they took time to adjust or not make it. Its not fantasy football.

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26 Jan 2019 19:54:58
Steve, go check my posts since Emery’s appointment. look at my support for a Holding in the past plus the Greek centre half. a plan is a plan. We don’t have a plan - that’s my problem. If we had the money then I would want 3 quality world class centre halves but we don’t so I am in the real world.

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26 Jan 2019 20:12:25
I'd be in favour of next season us playing poppa or Kos in the middle of 2 young Cbs like the the Greek lad holding plus 2 new young signings and I'd accept top 7 if meant a step back to take 10 forward.

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26 Jan 2019 20:53:34
If we can't get a high class stop gap in jan gunner, ìf kos can last one more season, for me a top class center back in the summer to replace mustaffi and depending on how our younger defenders holding, mavropanos and chambers do, a defence of soc, kos, new top class established, mav holding and chambers would do me, for center back. Just out mustaffi for starters because like xhaka, since they came they were/ are a massive part of the problem.

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26 Jan 2019 21:02:38
kante and mahrez are an exeption, if it was that easy to find them the market wouldn't be so inflated, chelsea and city wouldn't of paid £30 and £60 million for them, they would of just gone and found their own bargains. bayern wouldn't be willing to spend £40 million on hudson odoi. leicester would still be doing it, but they are spending £10-£25 mil on most of their signings these days.

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26 Jan 2019 22:12:55
Aldi or Marks and sparks Eden?
People assume Marks is best and those who can afford are much more likely to pay for what they perceive as proven quality but year on year Aldi win awards for quality as well as price.
Look back at all the transfers of the last 5 7 10 years and they are littered with expensive flops and fantastic bargains year in year out.
Personally I think we make it all more difficult than it really is because we all fans and media alike associate spending with success when in reality it's more about timing.
Southampton spotted how many players? at reasonable prices that others thought not quite good enough but then sold them at huge profits after they had simply provided the platform to showcase them.
Van the man at Liverpool and Wanyama at Spurs imagine if we'd beat Southampton to signing them? Then we wouldn't have needed to worry about out bidding Liverpool and Spurs a couple of years later.
It's not just Kante and Mahrez it's Van and many many more that were there, are there and will be there in the future.

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27 Jan 2019 00:27:45
Your right there's been loads of costly flops and bargains who have been great, but a higher percentage of expensive players make an impact, just the extremes are the ones people rember and talk about, it would be great if we can find bargains, but it's like you need a new pair of football boots, do you just go to the shop and buy them, or do you hunt round all the charity shops hoping you might find the ones you want in your size.

Van dykes a sad one because we were heavily liked to him at celtic and I think I remember we didn't go for him because we had doubts he was ready, generally when we've taken a shot on a cheap promising player it hasn't worked out and they've taken up valuable squad space and wages.

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27 Jan 2019 10:10:59
Wanyama when leaving Celtic too Eden mate.
I don't think we should be put off by Arsenes poor bargain buys because his expensive ones didn't fare any betrer either.
Good scouts good judgement and top coaching are our ways forward, we aren't doing be buying 100m defenders any time soon and by the time next summer gets here we will actually need Rb Lb and 2 Cbs at least that's without the GK. CM and winger we also need. 7 players needed and next to nothing coming in from sales to fund new signings so we need to do something smarter than other clubs above is do.
Nelson has to be given his chance there is really no point in spending our limited funds on a highly recognised winger when we haven't given Nelson a chance in my opinion because that's not going to help us out else where, I recon Dick and co will have around 100m to spend so they've got to box clever.

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26 Jan 2019 13:16:14
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26 Jan 2019 09:49:40
Not too disappointed regarding the result last night. Think we can take the positive of being the better team, united caught us 3 times on the counter. Here’s hoping Sokratis and Koscileny’s injuries are both minor, as we can’t afford to lose either at the minute. What do you guys reckon all guns blazing for 4th or Europa? I think Emery really needs priorities one. As we will fall 6 behind Chelsea and 3 behind United when we play City nect weekend, unless Emery can steal some points from the Etihad.

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26 Jan 2019 11:36:44
Socratis and Kos are vital to any form of success this season, no one else available is anywhere near good enough.

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26 Jan 2019 11:52:25
Mate, you had more possession but shots on target were the same so it depends how you view ‘being the better team’. As for your prospects, you started th season really well but seem to have lost all momentum. Right now, I would back United to finish in the top 4, not convinced Spurs won’t have a dip so that would leave 1place for you, Chelsea, or Spurs.

Europa is the way to go, raise yourself for those games, if you win it it’s a trophy and entry into the Champiosn League. It will be interesting t see if Emery prioritises which is what we did 2 years ago.

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26 Jan 2019 12:09:56
In reality you were the better team AJH simply because you got your game plan right and we didn't.
Until we get solid at the back again we will always come up short, I can't remember any team ever winning the league and being poor at the back, not all title winners were excellent at the back but all could hold their own when they had too.
It's no coincidence we've been poor at the back for a decade and not challenged for a title for the same amount of time.
Last night's game was pretty much par for the course, I remember LVG coming to the Emirates with a united team that had 1 fit defender and winning because you simply packed your defence and hit us on the break as per usual.
There is a difference between being the prettiest team and the better team.

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26 Jan 2019 12:55:37
We are too easily sliced open by a simple pass and limited cover at the back. Why can’t we coach that very simple discipline. Please sort out the issue as we can’t win anything if we concede sloppy easy goals. The opposition know they can always score against us. It’s been the case all season with no improvement. Utd’s second goal was a perfect example of that.

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26 Jan 2019 13:05:51
Football is not about being the better or worse team, its about winning. It doesn't matter how good or unfortunate arsenal were or how good or fortunate utd were. Utd won! For me i just wonder what utd are learning from the ogs tennure, they are eakinng out results and every result they get it ollies job. For us the faults are laid bare and we are suffering at the moment. Both teams have different prioties going forwards. For next season i'm hopeful we can get back to challenging for top four, for utd, they also can but utd are a million miles from a genuine challenge for a prem title and so are we.

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26 Jan 2019 14:32:14
A million miles is a bit harsh steve, City and Liverpool are setting a standard we both need to get to but sometimes it’s only a couple of players. Liverpool were a good team but a goalie and a CB has made them a great team. As for a City, Pep is very intense and usually by year 3 the players are starting to burn out, it will be interesting to see if he sticks around.

I think United have a lot of options going forward but are light at the back, DDG saves us so many points. A top class CB, a right full back and a CM will do for me, as well as Pogba and the clu deciding if he is staying. As for OGS, I wrinkled my nose when we appointed him but he’s been a revelation. 8 wins in a row, happy and positive unlike Voldemort, mature, sensible and enjoying the ride, and he’s one of our own.

I like Emery, I think he needs time and some cash. He seemed genuinely delighted to be appointed and he plays the game the right way. His approach to Ozil and Ramsey shows he’s ready to make changes but it takes time.

We’ve both fallen a long way since Pizza gate haven’t we?

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26 Jan 2019 14:57:06
I think citeh and liverpool at the moment are playing football at a different level than the rest. Pep and klopp are by far the best matched teams and managers in the prem. The only thing utd are doing at the moment is proving that the players are in control of that club and like chelski, that's a bit worrying. Why are they all of a sudden on an 8 hame run, when a few months ago, they were sulking? Things can change very quickly but pep and klopp are way ahead at the moment. Liverpool and citeh are well into their plans and construction, the rest are still asking more questions tham getting answers.

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26 Jan 2019 17:41:39
We were the better team by controlling the game, you had 3 chances on the break and scored with all 3, yeah you were more clinacal than us. But I believe over the 90 we were the better team. Completely agree though AJH we are desperate for investment and i just hope Emery is really up for it, he has 2 fights on his hand, one with Donkey Kroenke and the other with the players. And Steve Liverpool and City are both beatable in the way they play, i wouldn’t say were a million miles away either and we could possibly make 3/ 4 and be right up there against them.

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26 Jan 2019 20:05:22
AJH,

I recall being told how bad we were when 16pts behind you in 4th when you were top and now you sit in that exact same spot.

Fighting for 4th as we did and only a few players from being great, as we always were. You’re sounding like an Arsenal fan.

Don’t you honestly see how bad you are, don’t you look at your squad across the board and think I honestly wouldn’t want any of them, if for example you followed City.

I truly look at De Gea and the potential of Rashford and then where do you really go, would either of them make the City or Liverpool 1st team under Klopp or Guardiola.

Then what about the rest, I still don’t see why Pogba gets raved about for highlight reel stuff in a game. So many other sides just walk through him in your midfield.

I’m not saying we are the bees knees but you spent an absolute fortune to have mostly squad players. I thought Shaw may have stepped up but he’s just a fat lad.

I’m not going to reel off names but some of the dross is still there from Fergies days. You just look a shadow of your former selves as we do.

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27 Jan 2019 07:45:21
Stoner, to sure how often you watch us but sine Jose went the team has been transformed. Yes we need strengthening but there’s a bunch of players who look 10 times better than they did. We can argue whose fault that is but it’s up to the Manager to get the best out of his players which is what we are starting to see.

Would Park have got into other teams, Wes Brown, John OShea, Darren Fletcher, Tom Cleverly. I could go on, it’s not about a team of stellar names, it’s about creating a team that works. Right now I wouldn’t swap Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Pogba, Herrera, Lindelof, Shaw, DDG. I’d promote some youngsters and buy a CB, RB, and CM. I’d sell Sanchez, Lukaku, and a number of other squad players and try and replace them with much better quality (easier said than done) ,

I think you’re too harsh, both about us and Arsenal. United finished above Liverpool last year, Liverpool sign a Gk and a CB and suddenly they like they look like Champions. The right Manager, tactics, preach, with 3/ 4 quality signings and we will be both be moving up.

You need to lighten up, sounds like you’ve given up.

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27 Jan 2019 16:51:58
AJH,

Not sure if you’ll read this now but your Liverpool example doesn’t hold water mate.

You have to look at the emergence of Robertson, Alexander-Arnold, Joe Gomez, Fabinho and that they already had that fabulous front 3.

You don’t have near to that quality mate, Van Dyjk and Alison were the final pieces.

You have way way more to do before you get close to another title.

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26 Jan 2019 09:14:04
Fair play to Utd they caught us 3 times but the Sokratis injury turned the game. The thing that I did not like was when Ozil came on we went back to the over passing mode that we had with Arsene. Hopefully Kozza and Sokratis are not out too long. Still got the 4th spot to play for and the Europa so it's not all doom and gloom.

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26 Jan 2019 10:37:43
United had a game plan and it's one they've used to good effect against us at the Emirates for many many years now, 2008 in the champions league semi final is the first time I remember them using it.
We really do have to smarten up when playing teams who are happy to give us the ball because some will take the chances we allow them.

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26 Jan 2019 15:02:47
Socratis and Koscielny showed how different we look with two very good center backs but loosing one also showed how flimsy we are also. A totally different game when socratis and then again kos went off, at defending at least.

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26 Jan 2019 08:50:29
Gutted we lost last night two teams I can not stand losing to spurs and united l. The team did not run enough for me we need defenders and wingers we have no width and bad defenders. Hope Neilson playes next season for us.

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Review Of The Day 26th January 2019

26 Jan 2019 07:29:01
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