Arsenal Banter Archive July 26 2014

26 Jul 2014 20:09:42
Jenks on loan to Hull would be perfect. I think Bruce would get a good season out of the corporal.

26 Jul 2014 21:01:30
Living in hull I love them, but they're more wing backs then rb's.
So we would not benefit.

Thats a lot of money in helicopter fee's, well you can't expect him to actually live there can you? :-).
Sorry anyone from Hull it was just a joke, its a very friendly place I've been there a few times, every garden has a three piece suit in it and you can't get a better welcome than that can you.

Be good for european experience too. However, I feel Swansea wouldn't be a bad idea, they play great football like us so would benefit him more in my opinion

I agree Partyrash, Hull would be good as they play decent football and have some Europa league fixtures for him to gain some much needed experience!

Swansea would also be a good fit due to their attacking flowing football.

26 Jul 2014 19:16:13
Have been thinking about the CDM situation and who I want and carvalho stands out for me. He's moblie, strong and just a beast and can play at CB. If we don't get him I think bender would be my second choice. Can't say I've seen a lot of him but he must be good considering wenger has been chasing him for years. I don't really want the spyder (sorry dags) I just don't think he is that much of an improvement on what we've got and despite his impressive stats I don't think he is or could be a top quality player just a good one. Bender and carvalho on the other hand can see them becoming stars.

So if we get one of them I'd be ecstatic plus I think we have very good cover there. Arteta just tends to stroll through the smaller games but gets outpaced and looks weak against the big teams. Still think he's a good player and good player to have around the dressing room and flamini is flamini. Lol.

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Totally agree about Schneiderlin. He's a good player, but not a top player in his position. He's not even in the France squad unless there are injuries.

26 Jul 2014 21:49:16
Agree where you are coming from SM but not entirely.

Of course, Carvalho would be great but I think Spyder, potentially would be as good.

The good thing about Arsene (and Arsenal) is they can sign a player who has potential and turn them into a player who achieves their potential.

Only difference is, now we don't sell them to our nearest rivals, domestically or abroad.

Khedira, Pogba, Bender and Carvalho are all great and would strengthen us no end, but so would Spyder.

Spyder for me.

26 Jul 2014 19:40:26
Ospina been confirmed by Nice. Great job by Wenger he's had a great transfer window so far, Goes to show how much of a great job he had done when we didn't have the cash to splash! I take back any criticism I have given him over the last few years haha!

26 Jul 2014 18:47:38
Ospina to Arsenal now confirmed.

Call me suspicious but I think Arsene's going to try and actually win the premier league this season, if he does really sign a top DMF then there can be little or no doubt about it OUR 4TH PLACE TROPHY IS IN SERIOUS DANGER OF FINDING A NEW HOME

I know. It feels a little strange but hugely exciting to have signings done before the first league fixture!

A top dm and Chambers and I will lump on Arsenal winning another trophy again this season!

26 Jul 2014 21:54:43
But I like our 4th place trophy.

Sulking now.

I still feel we need another quality signing

26 Jul 2014 17:44:23
Wenger a few weeks ago said 'I will probably buy players from the French national team'
Debuchy is done. Remy has gone to Liverpool. Griezmann has gone to Athletico Madrid. I doubt Benzema will leave Real. Paul Pogba is currently in NYC, where Mr Wenger just so happens to be as well. Are the stars aligning?

Don't put them thoughts in our heads Mick! Surely too good to be true?


But then again, so was Sanchez.

26 Jul 2014 18:31:15
Slick,

If not Pogba, than Schneiderlin will do very nicely.

Bag it and tag it.

26 Jul 2014 16:14:10
arsenal signing chambers will terrify the prem lge with sonogo and giroud upfront the likes of spurs and chelsea are very worried lol

At least you can laugh. Hold onto that ability for the coming season, it might stop you throwing the rope up.

one welsh left back is a terrific transfer window. It should stand you in good stead for the January window, when Levy will appoint someone else to lead you to failure

With Soldado up front Spurs should be considered the real threat especially with Lamela on the wings. I mean Ozil, Sanchez and Ramsey are no worry

Good luck with your back 4 this season mate. not sure who you will have there? maybe I could give you a nudge in the right direction. your best player will be off to barca. without vertonghen. . happy mid table mate

They're a hell of a lot scarier than Soldado, Chadli and your new terrifying signing Ben Davies.

We don't have to worry Spurs. They should be more worried about Southampton and Palace. They're more in your league.

Noddle waddle
This has been tried before mate, quit while your behind.

26 Jul 2014 17:25:26
Dagenham, I can't believe you, you're already on a yellow! ;-)

HODS. your allways welcome mate here, Its the first step to your future happiness.
It starts with a bit of red onyr shirt now popping in,
Repent your sins and become a gooner.
I must admit i'm worried spurs will be challenging, I was going to av a few cheeky quid on you doing the trebble .
Do you like your exciting signing their a credit to Mr levy and the spurs board, this new relationship you have with real madrid is working wonders

Hoddle waddle, what a load of old twaddle. Off you hobble. Your team has no bottle.
Oscar wildes got nothing on me.
Flybo

I am not falling for it this time Dags ;-))

26 Jul 2014 19:58:52
Not me Jenjen,

Even at my most Devilish I would not call myself Hoddle Waddle.

26 Jul 2014 20:52:03
Poetry in motion Flybo.

In your case mate, reverse motion. :-)

26 Jul 2014 22:00:51
Not me Rooster I promise.:-)

26 Jul 2014 15:30:42
I think that people need to remember that Debuchy is 29 years old, so it makes sense bringing in Chambers now rather than waiting for him to go for £30m next year. Yes it's a risk to pay £16m, but in a few years time, it will be him and Jenko fighting for the first team spot, with Bellerin breaking through not long after.

Away from the right-back position for a second. I think that, if we don't sign a striker, we should defintitely keep Campbell on this season, to provide cover for LW and ST, with Sanchez playing in one of those two positions. I think it would also be a mistake to get rid of Podolski. I can see Gnabry going out on loan, probably to the Saints.

CDM is a must. I don't think Khedira would have been ideal for that role, but he would've been nice. Carvalho would be my choice, but Spyder is looking to be the most likely. Bender would do a great job for us too.

I would be saddened to see Vermaelen go. He has been one of my favourite Arsenal players of recent years. I would rather see him go to Barca for about £8m, than United for around £10m.

Looking forward to the new season, provided a couple more join along with Chambers and Ospina.

That'll be all, me thinks.

26 Jul 2014 16:46:34
It starts 10pm uk time. But its not on any sat channels. Its on espn2 usa. so your best bet is streaming it on firstrow or wiziwig etc

26 Jul 2014 18:34:34
Nice post Ted.

26 Jul 2014 15:05:16
Hello my little red comrades, do you know if the NYRB v Arsenal game will be streamed live on arsenal player? And if so what time is kick-off?

The arsenal game is not on tv there is no demand for it they only show big clubs pre season matches ah that's why all spurs games are live LOL

There will be no shortage of streaming sites showing the game so no need for panic.

26 Jul 2014 17:16:26
So Hoddle,

Where do you watch Spurs games?

CITV, Nickelodeon or Horror channel?

26 Jul 2014 17:30:05
Hey Dags,

I heard this the other day, what's the difference between Hugo Lloris and Katie Price.

There are only 2 t#ts in front of Katie Price :-)

That's the only market they can persuade to watch a Spud game

26 Jul 2014 20:01:04
Hehe love it Jenjen.

Hi:) JT, that was awesome:):):)
Katie price. mmmmmmmmmm:):):)
nice one lass:)
COYG andi:)

26 Jul 2014 14:16:13
ED
Can you give me any update on super Nic
i worry he will not get another club, I see aston villa a favorites to sign him.Can you see barca or madrid making a late move.
How will we survive with out his goal threat.ihave just found out that giroud asked him to sign his boots.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know who you are referring to.}

26 Jul 2014 16:49:45
He is on about bendtner. Not that I get why he cares lol but still

Bendtner, greedy little prat

26 Jul 2014 17:39:13
Not a fan than Bambam?

Lol

BANBURY
your still not bitter, lol

26 Jul 2014 13:35:02
I feel for Southampton. Really. can't we loan them Joel, Zelalam, Sanogo. It'll give thm BPL experience plus help thm out. That brings me to a.

Question for eds
Is it possible a team in th premier league would make them(Soton as they lost so many quality players at ones) a feeder club?
Secondly, which teams have thought bout doing it with a fellow premier league team recently?
Thanxxxx

26 Jul 2014 16:50:49
I believe you can't have a feeder club in the same league as yourself

{Ed002's Note - There are many restrictions on loans.}

You cannot loan two players from the same club in the premier league.

You can't have one in the same league and there is no need to feel sorry for Southampton

Making multimillion pound profit margins on players they either developed or bought for very little is exactly where they want to be.

Rebuilds are risky but they've brought in an experienced manager and have the dough to maintain premier league status.

Its poor Portsmouth fans I feel for. That must be hard to watch lol

26 Jul 2014 17:21:53
He's 33 but Ed always say's he's 50.

I think 002 knows something we don't. :-)

26 Jul 2014 13:58:47
Never expected the Callum Chambers swoop.

If it happens, I'm excited. (Not now Mrs Dags, I'm not that excited).

Look's like a good little player, can play RB and Centre half.

Great signing Arsene, now snap up his mate Monsieur Schneiderlin and I will be very excited. (OK Mrs Dags, I'm very excited now).

DAGS

Do you reckon the SK deal is dead?, odd chat about him lowering his wage demands.

Behave spursman ;)
but in all seriousness I love the way the club does these deals it just makes a mockery of tabloid 'journalism'

26 Jul 2014 17:25:38
Bambam,
It has gone quiet on the Khedira front, I still reckon it might happen but only because of our German contingent.

Messrs Ozil, Mert and The Pod will hopefully have a word in his shell-like.

Agree Saint.

26 Jul 2014 12:51:40
Feeling bad for Southampton Fans. Looks like we are getting chambers n possibly schneiderlin. Reminds me of our 2008 window when flamini, hlebs n co left when we wre trying to rebuild after v sold henry in 07. Maybe they should bring a new rule that u can't buy more than 3 players frm a club in a single window! that being said ill be overjoyed if we get chambers n schneiderlin! Lol.

26 Jul 2014 12:00:34
Jack Wilshere,

As if this hasn't been done to death but it's so easy to get a perception of a person and stick them in a category and then believe every piece of drivel written by the gutter press.

Banbury you held up Gerrard and Lampard as examples, neither are saints and have featured in the press for various things, Lampard has just apologised to his new fan base for an incident that occurred some years ago.

Not even Beckham has managed a career in football unscathed.

A prime example of how the press work is Tulisa, not by any stretch has she shown herself in a great light but has just proved the press stitched her up, so what do they do, publish an article with the most hideous picture of her they can find. Quality.

So Jack is out in a club and a girl gets a broken elbow, we have no idea what comments led Jack to become involved or do or say what he did, but let's believe anyone but him.

He says he is in rehab for his injury, personter goes viral that it's rehab from drugs, let's believe that shizzle too.

He is young, he is undoubtedly rich, he has talent, he gets caught enjoying himself in a pool party, stupidly either simply drags on a fag or actually smokes, people smoke in every walk of life, does anyone recall Didi Hamann saying how he asked Rafa for a cigarette in the changing rooms after their Champions league win.

Did the press or Liverpool supporters get their arses in their hands over that.

Jack has undoubted talent in my honest opinion, that's why fans of other teams have wanted him in their side.

He warrants to chance to get well and truly the other side of his injuries and become an Arsenal great. Arsene is the person to guide him and ensure this happens.

This season in my opinion will see Jack in and out of the team whilst he rebuilds confidence and form and I really think that if that happens he will be back big time next season. :-)

Good Post Jen

My point is and I will add Becks to that is their careers were long and very successful ones with many high performances even from an early age, Becks even more so, the spotlight he has been under for 20 odd years is like no other . At this present moment in time I cannot see Jack getting anywhere near them. The social side of his life was just a small % of his problem the other is as I have mentioned is the fact that he has glass ankles, his game doesn't suit his body ( if you no what I mean ) he will always be injured .

Maybe a move to a slower tempo type of football will suit? But as we are here and now, he has a million miles to go.

In my opinion

Of course :)

Totally agree Jen Jen he will be amazing I just cannot see how anyone can see it

Why will he suddenly stop being injured Maidstone, have you had a look at his stats of games played/ goals scored . He doesn't play that many games and the fact that fans keep talking about a goal against that footballing powerhouse of Norwich says it all really.

He is more likely to be another Diaby than anyone else.

Time will tell of course but history tells me I am more likely to be right than you. He might have a decent season and he might score 5 goals ( yippeeee ) but he needs to do it the following season and the season after

26 Jul 2014 13:36:22
Great post Jenjen,

But I'm going to ride side-saddle with Banbury on this one (sorry Ed025).
Because Jack hasn't exactly set the Prem alight with his football, people look at his off-field activities for the reason why.

Prime example, George Best.
The man was an absolute hell raiser, spent more evenings in nightclubs than Peter String-vest, smoked more fags than a bunch of naughty school kids behind a bike shed and just lived each day as it came.

Now, he was a little bit before my time, but from what I have seen/read/heard, was an absolute star on the pitch.

If Jack up's his game, and despite what is written on here, we all hope he will, all his off-field shananagins will be forgotten about.

C'mon Jack, be the player we want you to be.

26 Jul 2014 13:47:04
Excuse me Maids,

I'm the only person who call's Jen 'jenjen'.

Behave Custard Boy, lol.

Hi jenny as younsay Gerrard lampard and Beckham all got in the headlines for the wrong reasons but there are two major differences imo, those three shone so brightly on the pitch that it was soon there problems off it were soon forgotten and they kept their heads down and away from controversy to help take the pressure off themselves.
My problem with Jack is not lack of performance so much as constant tweets and photos of him doing stuff the club would rather he didn't do or say in public.
Add to that every time he's tackled he looks at the ref for a free kick for 30 seconds where as when the Ox loses the ball he's chasing back winning it immediately.
I hope he shoves my words back at me 2014/15 season I really do

Jen
Its a cross us rich and famous people have to bear.
Girls will allways throw themselves at us.
I think you had a little crush on a certain number 12
as in the famous film
haloween
JACK, S BACK

26 Jul 2014 15:26:19
Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate Jack is at the beginning of his career but the injuries are his biggest hurdle and I read recently that his body shape suited his style of play and compared his body shape to that of Cruyff, all be it that Jack is shorter.

So I don't really know if he will be injury plagued but only time will tell us that. I also get frustrated with the falling over moaning stuff but that I think is more down to frustration as he is yet to feel 100% fit and confident in himself again and to produce your best you have to be.

I just want him given the time, not to feel like it's obvious how Ramsey felt prior to last season and as fans that were behind him.

Maybe I'm too soft :-)

That is exactly my point G62, those 3 are poles apart from Jack in all aspects of the game.

Someone posted on here earlier that we are hoping Jack fails . . nonsense, he is a talented boy, but mentally on and off the field he needs to wise up

DAGS

You can naff off mate, all your horse hopping will give me a bad name lol

x

26 Jul 2014 17:32:03
Bambam,

Nothing wrong with a bit of side-saddling mate.

Don't knock it til ya try it, lol. :-)

26 Jul 2014 11:20:17
AW please sign a CDM

Happy for Diaby and Jack to have their chances in the team as we are all Gooners plus I really like Jack. He just needs to stop believing all the hype, stay on his feet and let his football skills not his mouth or actions do the talking

For years AW has been criticised for not adding players because it stops others progressing. I back the manager to do the right thing for the CLUB in the short and longterm as he has done that so far despite all the crap he took while balancing the books during the tight years following the move

We are lucky he put up with it and did the right thing fir OUR CLUB rather than HIS EGO.

Now we have a trophy and cash and a great manager at our GREAT CLUB.

I for one felt honoured to watch some of his great teams over his tenure and excited about the one he is piecing together now. He has my complete backing and faith - I believe he wants a CDM and that makes the team / squad complete.

Come on you Gunners - a huge season ahead. Let's stay united in victory and support every member of the squad and back room. Let's be the 12th man at every game and cheer them on in good / bad times.

Here's to another trophy :)

I totally agree SY4 we should give every player who goes onto the pitch for us 100% support regardless of our own personal feelings towards some players.
I want Jackie boy to make me eat every word of criticism I have ever written about him, I will be very happy in my obesity.
But should he continue to under perform on the pitch and over indulge off it be it stupid twitter talk, fags or whatever I will continue to dislike him for being a terrible waste of talent

26 Jul 2014 09:10:49
If Chambers arrives where does that leave Jenks?
I'll be absolutely gutted for him if he's forced out, I know its called progress but he's never had a chance.

Agree G62, I quite like Jenks, English for starters plus I think he could convert to CB if needed, is Chambers really that much better for that sort of money?

I don't think jenks is good enough, he's had a fair amount of chances but to me he looks out of his depth against the better teams , looks like he try's to hard to me as well , great engine on him but for me he doesn't quite cut it, bellerin looks better prospect for me so with chambers and bellerin the future looks good down the right when Debouchy goes

He might not be to start but 16,000,000 is an awful lot of money for a RB who hasn't played at the highest level

He's no trouble off the pitch and always gives 100% on it, is a gooner through and through and a top top bloke.
So yeah I'm a bit biased towards him and I know loyalty and sentimentality doesn't win Premier league titles so its a good job I'm not our manager I guess

I'm with you G62.Players develop differently, not all on the same track. We've seen 'late developers' in their mid and late 20s come good and become quality players. Especially defenders, who take time to understand the position at the top level and where mistakes are more visible. Kos took a couple of years to come top and we got him at 25(?). I think Jenks has it in him and I hope I'm right for all the reasons you said.

I thought so as well G62

He is a very good squad, I don't see Monreal being any better than Jenks . But I guess to progress he will want regular first XI football

26 Jul 2014 07:49:56
A few points here.
If wenger quotes are to be believed and ospina Is definitely on his way, this a great signing.
I'm also pleased at the prospect of chambers, versatile with lots of potential, hopefully the fee is at the lower end of what's been suggested of anywhere between 7-16 million. He is only 19 and largely unproven at the very highest level.
New rumours of TV going to Barcelona. I would much prefer he stay and fight for his place but would rather he go to barca than utd if he does move.
Does anyone else else have a bit of sympathy for Southampton?
One great season and losing all their best pplayers I have a lot of respect for them and the way they bring players through so hopefully they won't struggle too much this season.

Absolutely Bacon. I for one definitely feel sorry for the poor Southampton fans, especially seeing as little of their money has been used for purposeful signings. I'd like TV5 to stay with us to be honest. He didn't prove once last season that he deserved a starting 11 spot, and the fact that he's captain of the club says a lot. Also the fact that Barca and ManUtd are looking at him shows that he has far more to give then what has been the case over the last 2 seasons.

You'd have to be a Portsmouth fan or have a heart of stone not to feel sorry for them.
I think their DOOMED, Doomed I say even before a ball is kicked

They ( So'ton ) are also collecting an awful lot of money and have done so in the past. Haven't they just sacked some of the scouting team also?

They aren't doomed.

just will sink to the championship and get even more money.

remember they still have one of the best youth setups in the world

They did have a fantastic youth set up but that has been changed. . I think

25 Jul 2014 21:57:43
Eds, just a minor complaint but using the quick reply button and typing then clicking off screen causes all the text to disappear, any way to make it a like an active text box that stays no matter where you click?

{Ed033's Note - This is neither banter or a rumour, please use the contact form

26 Jul 2014 05:33:34
Arsenal squad is really taking shape

GK - Woj / Ospina
RB - Debuchy / Chambers
CB - Per / Kos /? / Chambers
LB - Gibbs / Monreal
DCM -? / Arteta / Flamini
CM - Rambo / Wilshere / Zelalem
AM - Ozil / Cazorla / Rosicky
LW - Sanchez / Gnabry
RW - Theo / Ox
ST -? / Giroud / Sanogo

Rumoured budget of £100m,
Budget spent so far = -(12+3+35+15) = £35m
plus Vela/Fabregas +£15m = £50m
plus Poldi / Campbell / Jenko / Vermaelen +£40m leaves ~£90m remaining.

DCM - Carvalho (£35m)
CB - Hinteregger (£10m)
ST - Reus or Martinez (£30m)

Boom! Sign them up Wenger

{Ed025's Note - not a doctor of mathematics i see then rog.. :)

Wenger doesn't have to spend all of it ;)

Hi:) Ed025, nice one:):)
hmm, I had to look twice, mind you!:)
coyg andi:)

So let me get this right 12 + 3 + 35 + (the other figure) = 35 (the third figure)? Some maths you have got there boy.

The Doctor's maths look fine to me.

Aman he is removing those numbers from 100.

100 - (12+3+35+15=65)

100 - 65 = 35.

Rog hasn't shown his working too well, but the eds note was more to do with not spending the entire amount i'm sure.

26 Jul 2014 03:40:59
If by the end of the transfer window are signings are sanchez, debuchy, ospina, chambers, a decent cb to replace vermaelen (my preference is nastasic but unlikely)
and one of schneiderlin/bender/khedira/carvalho (preferably schneiderlin) then I say we would have had a really good window and a really strong squad heading into the new season.

judging by the current transfer rumours this also looks extremely likely to be the case, exciting times fellow Gunners

26 Jul 2014 02:32:16
Hey Eds,
Firstly, a huge thanks for all the effort you lot put in. It is MUCH appreciated. With the Chambers deal set to go through, will we be in for a CB too, if/when TV goes? Also, given AW comments regarding not needing anyone else up front, is this a classic Wenger decoy? Do you see us moving for another CF or a wide player to free up Sanchez to play CF? Keep up the good work guys, cheers!

{Ed027's Note - if TV goes, a replacement will definitely be bought, Chambers is covering the 4th cb and back up rb roles. On the st I don't see it mate unless something good comes up, as Wenger keeps hinting at, Sanchez is the cf imo with Giroud and Campbell providing cover

26 Jul 2014 00:52:11
I can't be the only 1 in thinking spend the rest of our budget on pogba? I think one of Podolski or carzola will leave. Plus 15-20m we got from cesc, vela and djourou deals, net spend 65-70m I know I'm living in dream world but we can all have a fantasy can't we?

26 Jul 2014 02:46:25
Pogba is a great player, but I can never justify that price being quoted for him. William Carvalho is only a year or two older and would be just as beastly for us. We could buy Carvalho twice, with change, for the price of Pogba.

Carvalho for me - or Vidal. Wouldnf mind us spunking the budget on Vidal.

I don't see podolski or cazorla leaving. I also hope they dont.

25 Jul 2014 23:53:00
Apparently, and I do mean apparently, we have agreed a £16m fee with Southampton for RB Callum Chambers.

If that's true, c'mon Arsene, make it £40m and get Schneiderlin too.

It's not going to happen Dags, I think Arsene believes he has his squad

Supposed to have had medical. Why!

I'm on about Schneiderlin their price is far too high for AW.

Chambers looks virtually a done deal

26 Jul 2014 08:05:23
Snap up Schneiderlin too and the jigsaw is complete.

I agree Dags, get him and job is done