Arsenal Banter Archive July 26 2016

26 Jul 2016 21:43:17
Now that it has been confirmed we made a bid for lacazette and that lyon turned it down, do we have anyone to blame other than ourselves? strikers go for 40-50 million pounds why didn't wenger make a serious offer? If we go into the season with giroud as our main striker, we can kiss top four goodbye.

26 Jul 2016 22:04:20
What all strikers go for 40-50 million! This page is turning into a complete asylum . Everybody remember fever pitch? Is it just Arsenal fans that behave like queens. God let's get a grip.

26 Jul 2016 22:18:52
Well I was bored with top 4 chasing anyway :-) top 1 sounds much more interesting and fun while in most sports 4th doesn't even make the podium.

26 Jul 2016 22:47:14
Cause we don't have the free cash to spend that much without selling players. Arsenal are not prepared to make a financial loss so to me it seems we have about 50 Mill approx. transfer cash surplus each main summer window to make purchases. Hence why we can now only make one big signing a window

So with 30Mill spend on Xhaka this leaves about 20-25mill (tops) is our limit hence why It was Vardy or bust as our striker buy. We will not get any decent striker for that sort of 20-25mill mark in this inflated market certainly no better than we have. So Wenger's only Option was Vardy as he was the best on offer for that price despite his age.

26 Jul 2016 20:29:28
So, we have some of the biggest manager's in world football plying their trade in Prem League.

Will this overshadow the player's who play for their clubs? (Especially in the eyes of the media) .

Examples.

Aug 14 Wenger v Klopp
Aug 27 Pochettino v Klopp
Sept 10 Mourinho v Guardiola
Sept 16 Conte v Klopp
Sept 24 Wenger v Conte
Oct 1 Pochettino v Guardiola
Oct 15 Klopp v Mourinho
Oct 23 Conte v Mourinho
Nov 5 Wenger v Pochettino
Nov 19 Mourinho v Wenger
Nov 26 Conte v Pochettino
Dec 3 Guardiola v Conte
Dec 11 Mourinho v Pochettino
Dec 17 Guardiola v Wenger
Dec 31 Klopp v Guardiola

Mouth watering?

26 Jul 2016 21:17:20
Moyes v Everyone.

26 Jul 2016 21:31:53
Does look tasty. the other option is to bung them all in a no holds barred cage fight. my moneys on Klopp tapping out first.

27 Jul 2016 03:15:50
I think AW will bring the garlic and onion neck rings and stench them all out MulamNO, and ding yay AW won something.

27 Jul 2016 07:29:45
Why is TFI in that least .

26 Jul 2016 19:46:11
hi ed. considering the injury situation and fitness issues (due euro, copa) arsenal currently look short in two deparments. i. e striker and CB. i have two questions-
1. if we fail to land the high profile striker/ winger (aubameyang, dybala, mahrez) . will arsene wenger then go for grade-B striker (lacazette, chicharito) .
2. Do you see a CB signing. because we only have Gabirel, Holding and Chambers available for opening few games.

{Ed041's Note - arsenal have needed those departments improved for many seasons, why is this year any different? If I had to guess (but I will ask the other eds when there about) I'd say your most likely signing would be one of Mahrez/Lacazette. As for CB there had been no news given. But I will ask.

26 Jul 2016 20:10:44
I would bite your arm off for Mahrez or Lacazette.

If we get both (needed but highly unlikely) , than this would be a massive upgrade on what we have.

{Ed041's Note - do you need both? I'd though just a striker myself.

26 Jul 2016 20:49:47
Just for the sake of getting a striker, I would prefer Lacazette but I would love to get Mahrez he is sensational.

26 Jul 2016 21:36:22
I wouldn't say Lacazette is grade B. As a rival fan I'd be much happier seeing Giroud in your line up than Lacazette and there's no chance you'll get Dybala.

26 Jul 2016 22:07:18
Ed041,
We need a striker but Mahrez is a huge upgrade over anything we have on the right wing.

{Ed041's Note - who gets dropped? Santi? Ramsey? Xhaka? Sanchez, Ozil? I think your stocked enough in midfield.

26 Jul 2016 23:05:28
Mul. at least you are a voice of reason.

27 Jul 2016 00:48:02
Ed,
Wilshere will probably get injured in first game of season and will be out until January.

I would play Sanchez/ Mahrez/ Ozil/ Xhaka and alternate Cazorla and Ramsey and use Elneny and Coq as cover.

We do have a midfield overload, but in terms of a RW, Mahrez is untouchable.

26 Jul 2016 17:34:38
So higuain goes today for £75 mil, we wouldn't pay £32mil 3 years ago. We still didn't win the league in that time, we never got a striker in that time, we have money in the coffers waiting for a bargain. How long will we wait for this "bargain" and will we get someone as good as higuain who will score the goals and be worth twice as much three years on.

Wenger you think you are good at figures, well you aren't good at seeing the world is moving on and investing in quality goods bring great returns on the pitch and to the clubs coffers. Bidding £ 29.3 mil for a 25 year old french forward who should be at west ham or Everton and can't get in the french squad ahead of our " bargain" giroud, pierre giniac or martial who is 21 if my memory is correct, is not taking this club forwards.

If people can't see the problems staring you straight in the face and can't accept the miserly goings on and the stubbornness to realise we are getting further down the food chain thanks to wenger and the board are blind. Why do i think wenger is holding us back, because in every way we woukd have been a better club, worth more money and probably nearer winning the league if he had bought highain. But he didnt.

26 Jul 2016 18:35:48
We could have signed Aubameyang when he was in France for around 30million, we could have signed Draxler 2years back when he was at Schalke for 32million, and could have got Higuain for 23 million when he was at real Madrid. lol for our transfer policy.

26 Jul 2016 18:41:29
Get it off your chest Steve! I've not heard you like this before. You seem upset mate.

26 Jul 2016 18:33:50
lacaztte is perfect for us.

26 Jul 2016 18:48:19
Top post Steve

Couldn't have put it better myself.

26 Jul 2016 18:55:41
Sano, i'm not upset, i'm pi $$£d mate, we all wonder why we fail, well its staring us straight in the face and still some people can't see it.

26 Jul 2016 18:57:37
Cry baby perfect if you don't want progress. The guy is not going to take us anywhere. But we aren't signing him anyway. So it doesn'treally matter a jot about lacazete.

26 Jul 2016 19:00:14
Plus crybaby my point was higuain not lacazett .

26 Jul 2016 19:21:45
This season is a bit of a no lose situation for me because last March in decided I wasn't going to let this season get to me as I have previous seasons, at the time I resigned myself to the fact Arsene was going to do this season no matter what and there for it was highly likely to end as poorly as the last 10 have so it seemed pretty silly to allow my emotions to get the better of me yet again.
The empty seats against wba that visibly bothered Arsene plus the early Xhaka and Vardy attempted signing did make me at least consider that Arsene might actually try and go for it this season and finally do what needs to be done and who knows he still might but what ever happens this will the last groundhog day season for the Arsenal as we will have a new manager next season for sure no matter what Piers Morgan would like people to think.
I expect another uncompetitive season where our weaknesses are regularly on show for the pundits to repeatedly talk about yet again, anything more than that would be a lovely bonus. I still think the best case scenario for everyone is for the club to announce this is Arsenes last season in charge and let's turn it into celebration season.

26 Jul 2016 19:27:54
I think TFI will sign a new contract 62.

26 Jul 2016 19:41:16
I fail to see the logic in how vardy would be taking us forward as I remember you being ok with that deal albeit it being at a lower transfer fee. Vardy had one good season at Leicester lacazette is preforming back to back in our team you never know he could turn into the next aubemayang, benzema etc atleast wait until the end of the window, this page is getting depressing.

26 Jul 2016 20:09:48
The situation is pretty straight forward, Wenger will not in a million years sign a new contract unless by some small miracle we win the league and I don't believe in miracles, even the smallest ones.

He will be gone and not only will we find out how easy it will be to fill his shoes but whether it's he or the likes of Kroenke who determine what we spend.

I am not going to get bent out of shape about this season because there is little point. Wenger failed last summer to buy and will more than likely do likewise this season. He will, if that's the case, only have himself to blame.

The atmosphere at the Emirates will become truly toxic and further ensure he goes so stop flapping and chill out.

{Ed041's Note - fans have every right to vent RD, why should they accept this seasons failings because it's his last (which I don't think it will be)

26 Jul 2016 20:11:49
X X

Still waiting for this sensational signing you talked about

Is it soon?

26 Jul 2016 20:17:04
Lacazette is perfect for Arsenal.

He's big, strong, plays off defender's shoulder, has a decent first touch and knows where the net is.

He could be our Drogba.

26 Jul 2016 20:49:24
This page is getting ridiculous. There's so much we don't know. Who even knows if hiquain wanted to come. This isn't football manager. Seriously let's have some positive attitude.

26 Jul 2016 21:03:47
Dags he's goood not great and he's not coming anyway.

{Ed041's Note - I think he would do well for arsenal

26 Jul 2016 21:12:24
Simply ed because Everyman and his dog can predict what happens at Arsenal each and every summer under Wenger so why get so uptight, what's another 12 months after the last 12 years.

That said its a place to vent, I don't really care who says what but people seem to get so uptight over a game of football.

26 Jul 2016 21:14:29
Dags like austin and remy? . he's about as good as.

26 Jul 2016 21:11:08
Then we might as well go for that Yedder because no other striker is available, personally.

26 Jul 2016 21:13:55
Well said xhaka can.

26 Jul 2016 22:19:36
there's venting and then there's pissing and moaning every day. It's the same story and the same whinge. I'm with red dog on this. We all know the script and how it's been the same for years like you said but complete melt down is only going to lead to people needing more tampons. Just chill if you all know so badly how it is then why moan. It's like when people whine about the weather it ain't going to change let's look forward to the future and the future will come and like red dog said we will find out with the next manager what the crack is. And remember the oracle has already said its wengers last year 100% so rejoice boys 👍🏻.

26 Jul 2016 23:10:25
There's a better chance we will get yoda.

27 Jul 2016 07:30:37
Who's to say a new manager is going to loosen our purse strings maybe it's new owners we need who can compete financially I. e free spending what do you guys think?

26 Jul 2016 15:59:09
Is it true Per out 5 months. Better get a CB or two. I know this is terrible but he isn't good enough. Great touch but too damn slow.

26 Jul 2016 16:34:49
i hope he doesn't lose a yard of pace while he's out.

{Ed001's Note - he would be in reverse if that happened.}

26 Jul 2016 16:41:10
Great touch? Omg.

26 Jul 2016 16:57:20
Well not as good a touch as Sanogo but pretty good.

26 Jul 2016 18:01:55
He only has about a foot of pace as it is.

26 Jul 2016 18:07:39
Well we all see the game differently.

26 Jul 2016 19:53:57
Does that mean he could go back in time ed? Tell Wenger about how much of a disaster the past couple of seasons have been? Beneficial if so.

{Ed001's Note - good thinking....}

26 Jul 2016 15:37:32
Higuain gone for £75m.!

We would have NEVER paid that.!

Be interesting to see if that does free up Dybala as mentioned by someone on here earlier in the week.

26 Jul 2016 17:13:03
I hope so. Really do think he'll be great for us.

26 Jul 2016 18:27:18
They already sold Morata though, more likely the sale of Pogba will be used to cover the fee and Dybala will stay. But if we did sign him i'd be over the moon!

26 Jul 2016 12:56:03
It's getting close to the start of the new season and we desperately need a striker. Defensively, we could cope with Gabriel and Koscielny backed up by Chambers and Holding, but neither of these youngsters are really ready for regular PL football and with Mertesacker out until next year, surely we should invest in a top CB.

There are two other positions that concern me; RB, if Debuchy leaves, we have no cover as Jenkinson is out until November and in any case isn't good enough. Goalkeeper, if Ospina pushes for a move, we require cover.

I would hate to go into the season short, but it wouldn't surprise me and I can't fathom out why Wenger continues to be so stubborn in repect of paying the price for players. He seems okay with shelling out £30m for yet another midfield player (Xhakka) , but not for a striker and a CB.

26 Jul 2016 11:20:40
Even more so now we need an experienced CB. I think Mustafi at Valencia would be a good shout. Did well filling in for Hummels at Euros, 24 and can also play RB which would allow us to move Debuchy on. One in one out.

26 Jul 2016 11:20:40
Even more so now we need an experienced CB. I think Mustafi at Valencia would be a good shout. Did well filling in for Hummels at Euros, 24 and can also play RB which would allow us to move Debuchy on. One in one out.

26 Jul 2016 09:42:06
Had to laugh, it's July and we have Welbeck, Jenkinson and Mertesacker out with serious injuries. As well as Gabriel with tonsillitis. By the start of the season, we will no doubt have our usual 9 or 10 absentees.

26 Jul 2016 07:43:41
Does look as if the sac is out for 5 months. Surely their must be a CB coming in. Gabriel will be our only experienced CB for the first few games.

26 Jul 2016 09:22:40
He shouldn't be 2nd choice centre back let alone 1st so I hope he isn't in pain but let's go and get a defender who can actually defend and get from one place to another with a semblance of speed.

26 Jul 2016 11:21:52
Per certainly has a role to play at the club, love him or hate him, he's a leader and he's vocal.
We lack that.
So I wish him a speedy recovery.

The rumour of the day, is we want Shkrodan Mustafi of Valencia.
Key part of their defence, World Cup winner (didn't play much or even at all if memory serves)

I remember he left Everton as a youngster, but don't know why, hopefully it was just for game time, not because he couldn't hack the prem.

One thing that did concern me was that AC were apparently offered him for £11m and they said no, because they want Musacchio.
Firstly, I'd like Musacchio here!
He and Gabriel were a great pair at Villarreal.

Secondly, if Milan turned him down at what is a budget price, are we only after him because he's cheap?
If he's not good enough for Milan, why is he ok for us?

And thirdly, if Valencia are offering him to clubs, why do they want him gone?
If its financial, fine, but if they want him out, I'm not so sure.

Of course, all those points are circumstational, maybe It's all paper talk and Valencia don't want him gone, in which case we're trying to get a target WE want, which I have to applaud.

26 Jul 2016 11:21:52
Per certainly has a role to play at the club, love him or hate him, he's a leader and he's vocal.
We lack that.
So I wish him a speedy recovery.

The rumour of the day, is we want Shkrodan Mustafi of Valencia.
Key part of their defence, World Cup winner (didn't play much or even at all if memory serves)

I remember he left Everton as a youngster, but don't know why, hopefully it was just for game time, not because he couldn't hack the prem.

One thing that did concern me was that AC were apparently offered him for £11m and they said no, because they want Musacchio.
Firstly, I'd like Musacchio here!
He and Gabriel were a great pair at Villarreal.

Secondly, if Milan turned him down at what is a budget price, are we only after him because he's cheap?
If he's not good enough for Milan, why is he ok for us?

And thirdly, if Valencia are offering him to clubs, why do they want him gone?
If its financial, fine, but if they want him out, I'm not so sure.

Of course, all those points are circumstational, maybe It's all paper talk and Valencia don't want him gone, in which case we're trying to get a target WE want, which I have to applaud.

25 Jul 2016 23:40:24
So, another fan striker favourite drops out of contention :

Aubameyang, who is valued at around £59million, has also been linked with Manchester City but insists the only club he would leave Dortmund for in the future is Real Madrid.

Speaking to German TV he said: "The only club that could move me away from Dortmund is Real Madrid, and no other [club] in this moment. "

Why is Wenger so useless at warping people's mind so that they sign for us rather than someone else. He's a useless wizard.

Oh wait - this is real life where footballers have a say in where they are gong to Live, work, raise. Family, pay taxes, etc etc that and the real big targets want Real, Munich, Barca, Utd for prestige or the money at Chelsea, City or now China! / )

26 Jul 2016 09:26:43
If he made a few signings that are possible to propel us to the level of club that actually looks likely of winning big trophies these players would think of coming to us, until then we don't come in to the thought processing when looking to leave a club, and really you can't blame them for that.