Arsenal Banter Archive June 26 2013

26 Jun 2013 23:09:19
Hi Ed's rumour is psg will go for wenger next summer who would be everyones top 3 replacements?

mine would be
1. Klopp
2. Garde
3. Bergkamp
What can I say I love him.

Bergkamp5353 {Ed027's Note - Klopp, Guardiola, Ancelloti

Klopp, Ancelotti, Mancini

26 Jun 2013 22:21:52
Leading Broadsheet reporting that Madrid are offering Higuain + £££ for Bale.


FML {Ed027's Note - I think Higuain wants to play at the highest level

I really hope he does. If we don't sign him I'm going to be more upset than I was coming back from Wembley after the Birmingham game!

COYG!

They're offering di maria, not higuain.

26 Jun 2013 21:01:34
Some ridiculous statements on the Everton page. Some of them are saying that we are no better than them.

If I'm not mistaken, we finished above them, and we are in the Champions League. We also scored more goals and conceded less. Is there something I'm missing?

Are they just bitter that we might sign the best hair in the Prem?

Well, it's their page, so they can say what they want. Do get why fans visit each others pages just to be outraged by other fans. What were you expecting? Lots of everton fans go on about how Arsenal is an amazing club and that they are no where near as good as us? When utd bought RvP or Barca were in for fab people in here weren't very positiv about them either.

Everton fans support Everton, it's not that big a deal.

Took about 2 hrs to stop laughing and wipe tears from my eyes before I could reply. Everton as good as arsenal probably the funniest thing heard this year

Not being funny but we drew with them twice this season and were about on par all year so it's not like what they are saying on their page is even that crazy. They've got one or two better players than us, play better as a team than us, play with more passion and effort per game for the whole season unlike us, and have a player or two who we would all love in our squad. It's not the craziest thing for them to say, especially on their own page.

26 Jun 2013 19:51:18
Higuain is my fave striker on the planet

Have followed him since River Plate

I'm still speechless. Held off posting about him till was almost certain he was joining.

After 8 years of getting punched in the gut over the summer, my fave club is signing my fave striker, excuse me if I still don't believe it

Glowing Gooner

Lets hope it happens. tevez joins juventus. now let's hope city don't get greedy.

US Gooner, sorry to do this, but I honestly believe he's only about 50/50 to join

26 Jun 2013 19:26:22
I have a horrific feeling that Higuain will be going to Napoli in a player + cash deal for Cavani.

I think this because I was reading a quote from his brother about how a move to arsenal has edged closer. He then goes on to say that Napoli are a great club who have lots of Argentinian players

WTF? Why is he mentioning them? Nobody else has! The suspense is killing me!

26 Jun 2013 18:25:41
I have from a good source that Arsenal will announce
Rooney, Fellaini, Higuain and Cesar all together before 4th of july. There will be no other signings for the first team.

Crazy! that's definately not going 2 hapen.
Shalo_ajul

But then aliens will invade and we will never get to see those players play and us winning the league

watford gooner

You're dreaming= it simply won't happen, not sure what sauce on your source is on.

I believe you because I believe in what is best for the club. If so rooney and higuain best partnership in the prem with the second best defence and arguably the 2nd to 3rd most creative midfield. I believe you call that poetry in motion

Bergkamp5353

26 Jun 2013 17:23:44
Higuain's Agent says Juventus can not afford him and he is closer on moving to Arsenal! I always worry when agents say this, it feels like a ditch attempt to bring other clubs interest in! Hope not!

26 Jun 2013 16:47:00
Well of course Ancelotti wasn't going to say 'hey Higuain is rubbish, you know what we need to get rid of him and sign Cavani'. Hmm now that would be £5m off the income line and £5m on the expenditure line. It's meaningless what people come out and say.

Coaches will say what they need to say to disguise their real intentions other than when they simply do it to try to force a deal through, and you'll never know which is which. Do I believe Arsene would really sign Rooney? Nope, although you end up half believing it. The truth is he says it to mislead you from the real intentions and to disrupt the opposition.

Then you get the agents making up rumours to try to force better deals, and journalists desperate to fill space when there is little real football to fill the pages. Then to add it all you get people like us trying to make sense of what is real and not real, and of course those that make even more nonsense with their spurious in the know knowledge gained from an estate agent, a friend at the club, the brothers in law of the reserve goalkeeper in the women's team, or from a spotting ( I personally always love the agents spotting as they are so clearly recognisable, but I would give a big mark for the recent mall spotting near the Emirates).

At the end of the day we don't know until we know, ha that's really clever on my part! But I think you can discount 99%, anything that comes from agents, anything that puts a date on something happening, or mentions medical teams flying out, or well almost anything really!

What do you look for? Form, what do the clubs, coaches and players have a history of, if it fits with their form it's likely to have a logic. Logic, other than City and Paris St Germain clubs do not have bottomless pits so they will not over buy in one area, even if like Arsene they may have a pull towards certain types of players. So United want a midfield creator, it's obvious they have a gap, is that Fellaini? Nope so they might like him but he will not be transfer target number one.

So where does logic and form get us? It strongly suggests Higuain is coming. With the signing of Llroente and Tevez there would be no logic in Juve going down that route, and they aren't as cash rich as Arsenal. Bayern and United will fight for Lewandowski, Cavani will be fought over by City, Chelski and possibly Real (but I get the feeling City or Chelski), Falcao is the other big name obvious target, and the fall back for the three rich clubs I'd guess our original target of Jovetic.

So where else does Higuain go? He either stays, a chance but he'll continue to be second string, or he moves to Arsenal. I think he'll come. Oh and David Villa will either stay and drop further down the pecking order for one
last season or I would guess stay in Spain.

Cesc wil not be coming back to Arsenal any time soon. I'd love him back but a. He has worked too long and too hard to get to Barcelona b. Iniesta and Xavi are getting older and can't be expected to just keep going all season and sadly c. If he came up for sale this summer United's hunger for him and need for him would beat ours.

Fellaini? Well he doesn't fit with City. United? They tend to spend big on one or possibly two players. The creative midfielder looks the priority, and after that they appear to want a marquee striker signing, I'm not sure it's their obvious need but as a commercial trading company it fits with a business model. Chelski have other more obvious targets. I can't see why Bayern need him, he doesn't fit with Madrid or Barcelona, so logic says Everton or us. If the price is right my guess is us, Everton need money to buy, and he fits with a box to box need we have, and Arsene loves a player who can play in different positions.

Beyond that - Rooney will stay for another year, or failing that will be off to the only two clubs who can afford his salary and will want him - Chelski or Paris. Any of a hundred Germans that have suddenly become this years trendy will probably not come just like Gotze and Reus - no chance if Bayern want them, and no logic of why they would leave or pass up Dortmund to come to us. I'm not saying no Germans will come, but forget the young new wave superstars.

If Higuain and Fellaini don't come it will get very interesting, as the fall backs are far from obvious, and the top tier are all on the prowl. Rumours that once circulated about Isco and Navas had all the credibility of Hazard and Gotze before them. The next list looks full of risks - Benteke being the obvious alternate striker.

What I do hope is that if Higuain and Fellaini do come we still do not forget the need for a CD and CDM, we remain weak at the highest level in both positions.

The Ghost of Terry Mancini

Wow! long post I ddnt even read half way!

26 Jun 2013 15:52:49
There's more chance of us signing Fellaini than Higuain. let's just hope we get both

Paul

26 Jun 2013 16:59:00
On what grounds? Km

How does that work then? Have we even bid for Fellaini? Higuain's brother is saying we're close to signing him.

Chance or likelihood? The two are different.

Really? Are u even aware that Higuain is basically signed, where as fellaini is nowhere near completion.

26 Jun 2013 14:31:20
Does anyone know what Ancelotti had to say about Higuain today at his press conference?

26 Jun 2013 12:58:27
Is it just me or does anyone else think, Ancellotis press conference at 1pm is going to kick start the Market. Cavani, Suarez, Higuain, Ronaldo etc, so many decisions to be made that affect so many clubs.

Of course all I really care about is Madrid nipping Paulinho, Ronnie staying and Higuain leaving ;) not a lot to ask for eh?

Its too early in the transfer window for major moves.

If we pay over the odds the player is ours.

30 mill for fernandinho? seriously?

Jesus navas looks like a steal, but his value will be determined by how he fares in the big bad EPL. he is one skinny dude fyi.

Liverpool paid 9 mill for mignolet, Lago aspas and luis alberto, are players who could come good, but more likely 2-3 years down the line. and kolo toure.

Andre Schurrle for 18 mill to be a bench player? surely his pay packet must be good.

United sign Varela and we have sanogogo.

Napoli still hold the most coveted striker remaining. there is lewandowski, then suarez, gomez, soldado, spurs have two forwards they can't offload, there is bent, there is wilfred bony, there is higuain, negredo, the list goes on an on.

Madrid will wait for a bidding war and that's what it will come down to. and that's possibly why we won't get higuain.

im sure wenger has a backup. as he has thought about this scenario

26 Jun 2013 11:57:36
Really can't see Juventus needing another forward to add to Llorente and the 3 forwards that won them the league. Higuain father doesn't have the advantage of playing us against the Italians. Although I sense that's ready worked to his advantage. Surely Juventus have moved for Tevez because they have lost put on Higuain. km

26 Jun 2013 11:11:11
David Villa to Join Arsenal odds have been dropped from 8/1 to 4/1.

I am still positive on Higuain to be Top scorer for Premier League with Arsenal :).

26 Jun 2013 08:39:09
A dream scenario for today?

Juve sign tevez

Man city declare interest in jovetic

Leaving us a free run at higuian

Possible?

Db7

26 Jun 2013 11:33:18
its a nightmare scenario

It is the ideal scenario, let's hope it happens.

An even more dream scenario

Juve sign Tevez

Higuain tells City to get stuffed

Arsenal sign Higuain

Arsenal sign Fellaini

BOOM!

Dream scenario is us signing Higuain. The longer we delay, the more time others have to pounce - it's not just City who have considerably more spending money than us.

On the one hand, I am not taking anything for granted, particularly after Mata affair. On the other, it does look very realistic that we will sign him, given press coverage and the club's recent financial declarations. Still, absolutely bricking it at the moment!

Oleg Maputo

26 Jun 2013 03:21:24
I really think we should invest in a young talented cb, similar to what Man City did last year with Nastasic.

A fellow named Kurt Zouma comes to mind and would certainly be better than playing out 8-10m on Ashley williams. Honestly, is an aging squad player really worth that much because we should be hoping to target higher.

My two cents.

Mxchxxl

We're interested in that Croatian defender. He's only 17.

Williams and zouma would be preferable, need bit more leadership at the back (where Williams comes in) zouma is young and raw and would benefit experience alongside kos, mert, Williams or tv5