Arsenal Banter Archive December 27 2018

 

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27 Dec 2018 15:21:49
Ok, so Father Christmas arrived and said Arsenals Christmas present is that they can have 3 players from other premiership teams, and you get to choose the 3. The only rule is that you can only pick a max of 1 player per team. Which 3 would you choose? For me, would probably go for Maguire, Kante and Salah, as all very good and address the areas we need. but hard not to look at the likes of Aguero or Sane but probably not areas that we are desperately in need of.

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{Ed025's Note - alisson, D silva and kane..

27 Dec 2018 15:41:42
Mendy, Laporte and Van Dijk.

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27 Dec 2018 15:51:11
Van Dijk, De Gea and Kante.

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27 Dec 2018 16:16:46
Van dyk, auderweld and mendy.

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27 Dec 2018 16:22:26
You took the 3 names right out of my mouth Stoner, those 3 for me too mate.

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27 Dec 2018 16:52:52
I’d take your 3 Steve and throw in Kante as I’m a nice guy!

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27 Dec 2018 16:59:42
van Dijk, de Bruyne, Hazard.

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27 Dec 2018 17:30:15
SY4 . Mendy and Laporte? Father Christmas said only 1 per team! that's why i go for Maguire and not Van Dijk. can't believe there are no other takers for Salah?

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27 Dec 2018 18:47:20
I think last season Sarah would have had more takers Epping mate but he set such a high standard last season it was extremely difficult for him to maintain it.
He's still excellent but just not as excellent.

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27 Dec 2018 19:21:48
School boy error Epping!

Kante, Laporte and Van Dijk

That’s midfield and defence sorted.

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27 Dec 2018 19:31:24
We have one of the leading goal scorers in Aubameyang Epping so despite his brilliance it seemed a waste whilst we could fill elsewhere.

Would Kante and Torreira be enough in midfield to get the best out of Ozil?

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27 Dec 2018 20:02:48
Stoner - if those two aren’t enough then we should give up on Ozil. The two would generate energy and forward movement which we need plus some useful assists. A setter option than a lead weight rock in CM.

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27 Dec 2018 21:05:22
Is there any real way left for Arsenal and Mesut to ever work out for a prolonged period?
Whether we love or don't love Mesut it's ridiculous for our highest paid player to be sat on the bench or worse still at home more often than not.
It's irrelevant who's to blame the result is its not good for us or Ozil how things are.

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27 Dec 2018 23:41:36
Sanchez, giroud, chamberlain👍think Sanchez and Chamberlain would work well with high pressing Emery likes and giroud, always liked him,100% if not always a stellar player.

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27 Dec 2018 23:47:30
Or, Giggs, Shearer and Vidic, as didn't say whether past or present players.

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27 Dec 2018 23:56:12
If Lich can get a game for us at 57 why not those 3 Ramsgate :-)

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28 Dec 2018 00:27:01
👍😄😄.

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28 Dec 2018 09:21:40
Van Dijk, Kante and I hate to admit it, Kane.
These three signings added to the spine would be awesome.

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28 Dec 2018 23:29:04
Stoner, I would rate my chances of being able to play successfully in front of Torreira and Kante, let alone Ozil!

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27 Dec 2018 14:00:19
Just to remind people, this time last year we was 20 points behind citeh. Are we worse? Are we better? Are we expecting too much? .

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27 Dec 2018 14:48:43
City aren't setting the pace of last season mate so the 20 point gap is a mixture of us being better and City no as good.
Like you say below last season our away points were collector's items but now we are competitive and usually productive in all games.
We're yet to be thrashed by anyone and of our 3 defeats so far only 1 goal separates us and the team that beat us bar Dicks very first game against City.
We are very obviously better even if still a long way behind where we want to be but I still think we are way ahead of where most people thought we'd be back in August.
The 22 game run was both a good and bad thing because it built confidence but also raised expectations beyond reasonable levels for many of us.

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27 Dec 2018 15:00:17
Steve,
It’s difficult to argue with Neville’s mid season report card. Signings were not strong enough, CBS weren’t added and defence still sucks. Wenger added what we needed in season 1. Emery hasn’t yet. Compare whatever you want but season 1 - not decisive enough for me but time is on his side and we haven’t gone backwards. I just don’t think we have moved forward enough in defence plus it was a school boy error leaving us this exposed.

Arsenal - B-

Attack: A
Defence: C
Transfers: B

Unai Emery's Arsenal have had their moments but the defence is an issue
Unai Emery's Arsenal have had their moments but the defence is an issue
The players they have in attack are frightening but they have struggled defensively. You only have to look at the goal they conceded against Brighton. That was shocking. It is glaringly obvious that they need a centre-half in the team. Laurent Koscielny is a good defender but it could take him a while to get back from that Achilles injury as it's a nasty injury to have for a footballer.

The players who they have brought in, are they good enough to take them into the top-four positions? I am not so sure they are. They still need a strong leader at the back because the problems that Arsenal have had have always been at the back.

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27 Dec 2018 16:15:54
But that also meant we were 20 points behind the leaders. Any improvement in points or position at the end of the season how ever big or small, if it is an improvement, must be seen as just that, an improvement. We are in transition and we are not going to improve leaps and bounds straight away, anyone who thinks otherwise, is not rational.

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27 Dec 2018 16:53:28
Personally mate the improvement is clear and obvious and it's the effort attitude commitment in an Arsenal shirt shown by the players under Dick that they didn't show under Arsene.
Ability wise it's not much different but I've not heard one pundit question the teams commitment and effort yet this season and that has to the first time that's not happend before October let alone December in an awful lot of years.
It's no longer a question of will the Arsenal team turn up today.

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27 Dec 2018 16:56:24
Lichtsteiner was a poor signing and he’s getting caught out with his crossing, distribution and defending. He reminds me of a defender Wenger signed from Utd and we were all frustrated with him. He brings fight and experience but not EPL material. School boy error on the defence. We should have ploughed a lot of money into the defence.

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27 Dec 2018 17:16:34
Given our injuries it's a good job we did sign lich but apart from that he's not great is he! Jenks is better in my opinion but basically he's unplayable because the atmosphere instantly toxic when he is in the team.
We do need to spend on the defence first and foremost but it's no good kidding ourselves we are going to spend 300 million on 4 Van Dijk type signings even if we could find them.
All eyes on Sven this January and we will have chance to see what he's been upto since September but I wouldn't hold my breathe on getting 1 70 million signing let alone 3 or 4.

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27 Dec 2018 19:10:00
Sy, i'm not sure lich is as bad as he looks even at 45. As experienced and decorated a defender as he is, it can't be easy, at his age, playing in a different league. Also playing left back, right back, center back, part of a three, part of a four and sometimes the same game, never playing with the same player next to you twice, In a team not known for their solid defending. He was signed as cover or stop gap and as gunner says, its probably a good job we did. I think the defence could look totally different next season, no lich, no kos, no monreal and possibly no mustaffi with three solid center backs. Hopefully!

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27 Dec 2018 20:42:32
If he doesn’t sort the defence out by the start of next season then he’s in trouble as that area clearly needs sorting.

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27 Dec 2018 20:51:56
Sy, i'm pretty sure it will be no1 priority. Dick will know the type of midfield he wants and the type of defence. The forward line can take care of itself if those areas are addressed correctly.

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27 Dec 2018 12:40:42
To a man, bar a couple, every single one of our players need to sack up. They are an embarrassment to the shirt. Unlike others, I don't feel we're left with "dregs"; just a bunch of very capable players who don't work hard enough.

Our passing is terrible and not incisive enough. We're slow and last to almost every ball. Our inability to keep possession is concerning. And our overall lack of total commitment is a huge issue.

Keep this up and mid-table mediocrity is where we're headed.

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27 Dec 2018 13:06:26
Is this is post you meant to send last year Sharpie:-) .
No offence mats but it does seem most of those who weren't unhappy and had endless patients with Arsenes Arsenal seem to have very little with Dicks Arsenal.
Years of non progression seemed fine for some under Arsene but now after 4 months of a new manager suddenly they want instant solutions to problems that we've had for a decade or longer. I
It makes no sense to me.

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27 Dec 2018 13:46:50
Strange gunner how last year we couldn't get a sniff away from home. This season we are picking up points and are scoring goals again. The defence is depleated and weak and we are suffering. i'm not sure what miracle Dick is expected to perform with players at his disposal. Two 34 plus year olds and a player still wet behind the ears AMN. Is he not allowed time to bring his own team in or is he supposed to work miracles with all the players he inherited, that couldn't perform last season. We are down to the bare bones in defence, got two players, ozil and ramsey, not fully committed to arsenal, an out of balance squad and we are challenging for fourth. The performance yesterday was dire but we managed a draw. Not great at all but like you say, some peoples patience with wenger was baffling and some peoples lack of patience with Dick is also baffling. Dick didn't inherit a squad too exciting or reliable, it had massive problems.

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27 Dec 2018 14:25:17
I think for some people no matter who came in or what they did or don't do it wouldn't be good enough Steve mate, I don't know it's really about Dick I think it's more about people not being happy about Arsene being replaced by anyone at all and they want instant unreserved justification for replacing a man they were perfectly happy to continue with.

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27 Dec 2018 15:05:24
Steve - he knew the defence was weak yet didn’t stock up properly. It was obvious before the window shut. He didn’t address it just like Wenger didn’t in his last few years. The attack looks good but that was perfect before.

Midfield is better - yes

Defence - just as bad

Tactics - marginally better

Use of subs - far far better

Attitude on pitch - weird as I think they’ve improved but then I look at the Spurs and Brighton game.

Crappy sloppy defensive errors - still there

He’s still got a lot to prove but I do like him and trust he will get there. Just a lot slower than I wanted.

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27 Dec 2018 15:25:50
Couldn’t agree more Sharpie, whilst some have got carried away to a degree I’m not one of them.

Yes we’ve changed manager and yes we’ve finally bought a quality defensive midfielder. Yes Leno can play with his feet but he’s no top top keeper.

Love Lacazette, Aubameyang, Popadopolus and Kolasinac and beyond that Guendouzi has promise, Bellerin has got a little better. Holding definitely improved prior to injury. Ozil really needs to get a grip.

Iwobi and Lichtsteiner are bloody awful, the rest, well they are the rest.

Yes positives but a long long way to go. Do we look a top four side, with the exceptions of the Liverpool and Spurs games, nowhere near.

Must do a lot better C-.

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27 dec 2018 16:09:35
not one thrashing so far and apart from the city game not one game where we weren't still in it in the 90th minute, not one surrender or calapse where our players have simply given up and walked rather than ran.
how that's no progress on what we've seen in the previous 5 years is beyond me.

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27 Dec 2018 16:11:07
Sy, i'm not sure Dick had too much of a say in last summers transfer, i may be wrong but weren't most if not all signed up before he came. How much say will he have in transfers?
Is mislintat and salnehri going to sort that side now, i don't know.

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27 Dec 2018 16:44:14
G62, I'm totally unsure why you think I was ok with Arsene's Arsenal. Nothing could be further from the truth. I berated the players then for their lack of commitment much like I'm doing now.

I'm pretty sure, like Arsene, Emery sends the lads out with a plan and expects full commitment. Unfortunately I don't see anything resembling commitment from all these players.

As far as I'm concerned, Arsene has left the building! We have a new manager who I believe could do a fantastic job, IF the players gave it their all in every game.

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27 Dec 2018 16:47:11
Oh and G62, you're the only one making this about Arsene. I never mentioned Arsene or Emery in my post. My post was about the players and their lack of commitment.

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27 Dec 2018 16:48:37
Gunner, i agree, i got absolutely fed up of the constant hammerings and we are much more competitive now than we were. We may have a poor defence now but the one Dick inherited was the pits. We are more organised than under wenger, we are more resilient than under wenger, we are more flexible than under wenger. When its fully transformed, i think we will challenge the top four because of that i am more optimistic than i was under wenger. I just couldn't ever see that happening again but i have hope now.

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27 Dec 2018 16:51:37
Just for the record - I respect Wenger and supported him till the very last day. He’s gone now and I respect the new manager as he’s the custodian of our great club. I still have high expectations and emery needs to deliver. He has no past to give him slack but time is on his side. I wanted change and I don’t think he’s done enough but I’ve certainly shouted him out when he’s done well and questioned when he hasn’t. We ( I ) probably didn’t do that enough with the later years of Wenger so I won’t do that again. I believe I am balanced with Emery, albeit very demanding. I am still very annoyed about his defenders and stupidity in loaning Chambers out. This isn’t a new moan, I’ve been meaning since that loan was announced with no replacement. I’ve also said I was wrong about Sokratis.

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27 Dec 2018 17:16:27
Very true Steve but a simple ball over the top should not destroy us. We praised Emery for early signing, he had a full dossier on the entire squad for his interview and had a full pre-season. He should have been knocking down doors to get a decent back 4 or 3. No excuse.
Happy with the rest of the stuff and happy with the import of Torriera- masterstroke. High five fir Emery or was he just lucky to be given him?
I would give him a B - which I think is pretty fair and unbiased.

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27 Dec 2018 17:35:35
Hi sharpie the reason I mentioned Arsene is because I can't remember you ever being so passionately upset and vocal about the teams lack of performance prior to this season, don't get me wrong I think the passion is brilliant and I welcome it but we've done much worse in the past like Chelsea 7 0 on Arsenes 1000th game but I don't ever recall you being so openly critical before this season.
If I've got you wrong then I apologise.
I personally think all posts are brilliant regardless of whether I agree with them or not and everyone is fully entitled to feel and say how they feel but some posters do seem have found their critical voices more this season than ever before despite us not getting thrashed or beaten by more than 1 goal since opening day.
Maybe they had higher expectations once changed arrived i don't know but I'd be interested in hearing thier reasons and trying to understand them.

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27 Dec 2018 18:29:47
G62, ask about, I raged constantly about the lack of commitment from this very team and I still think they aren't performing to the max. It infuriates me no end.

For me, none of this is about Emery like you're making out it is, but I can and will hold this team to task for their abject failure to leave it all out on the pitch in every game.

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27 Dec 2018 18:42:04
Fair comment sharpie sorry for any and all misunderstanding on my part.

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27 Dec 2018 23:09:45
G62, no apologies required. We're here to discuss, banter and of course, make fun of RG61.

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27 Dec 2018 10:39:10
Don’t worry lads only Liverpool next 😳.

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27 Dec 2018 11:08:52
It's ok for me Welsh mate, I can remember where i threw my cushion I've been hiding behind to watch Arsenal play at Anfield for the last 5 years so no matter how bad it gets on Saturday it's not as if it will be anything new to us :-) .
I'm expecting our first thrashing under Dick but then again I expected it when Liverpool came to the Emirates earlier in the season too so you never know:-)
But even if it does happen game 20 before any team totally embarrasses is a huge improvement for us mate, we've know worse that's for sure as Stoke Swansea and Southampton fans will all gladly remind us of :-)

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27 Dec 2018 12:24:14
Dreading it and I hate Liverpool.

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27 Dec 2018 13:08:22
Me and the cushion are both looking forward to it mate, if we don't get thrashed at Anfield it will be a huge improvement on our recent past.

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Review Of The Day 27th December 2018

27 Dec 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 27th December 2018

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27 Dec 2018 07:03:44
I have observed that we give too many back passes which gives the opposition enough confidence to close us down. There was no urgency in the team, played with no pace, no power, no desire and we didn't win loose balls. We were simply too slow and this has happen the story in our last 3 games. It will take sometime to see change but there are some things we can do ourselves to bring change like working on the my observations before bring in the right players.

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27 Dec 2018 09:07:07
We also seem to be cheap with the ball - giving away sloppy easy passes which then put us under pressure in defence due to a counter attack and us being out of position.

Lots of positives though in the other matches but we seemed to have dipped a little while the 22 game run patched over some big cracks.

Once we get a solid back line - it will be very interesting.

The other piece I don’t get - how does a player like Iwobi come on as a sub to turn the game on it’s head ( a month or so ago ) , to then start and completely stink the next game up. It’s like Emery can’t start a game or motivate the players but can with a halftime team talk / subs. language must still be a challenge but I love the green shoots but still get concerned with how he starts games plus use of a Laca as well as our budget to make the changes I believe he will desire.

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27 Dec 2018 10:35:01
I think SY if we do stop doing the back passes and pass forward, we will be able to provide more services to our strikers. And then we must work on moving into spaces when we are attacking because we seem to be short of ideas because we are too stagnant, less movements which results in the silly back passes. Whatever happened to our quick one touch passes and combinations.

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27 Dec 2018 10:50:22
I think we in transition Willy from trying to score the perfect goal every time to becoming an effective as well as an attractive outfit.
180 months passed between invincibles to Arsene and Arsenal parting company without one serious title challenge it's going to take more than 4 months for Dick to put that right.
Last seasons Arsenal were the worst Arsenal side many fans can ever remember while even us oldies have to go back to the early 70s to remember a worse Arsenal team that what Dick inherited.
We all want instant solutions mate its human nature but in reality it's going to take us all more than a week for to lose the two stone we put on over the Christmas period :-)
The rebuilding of Arsenal is going to be a middle distance race at best and marathon at worst but it definitely won't be a sprint.

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27 Dec 2018 10:51:55
Used to love the quick roll out to Cole / Pires, 12 seconds later Henry shooting.

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