Arsenal Banter Archive July 27 2013

 

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27 Jul 2013 23:56:42
Interesting rumours regarding Suarez, I have just come back from South America and one of the things I heard was that it is actually Liverpool who want to sell Suarez.

Liverpool are unhappy with the player after the Biting incident last season, John W. Henry is thought to be disgusted with the player. They are also desperate for the money, not only to fund Rodgers Transfers but also to pay off some debt. (apparently)

Liverpool however do not want to appear to their fans as being a feeder club or to appear like they are pushing a fans favorite out the door and would not want to sell to another Premier League club and have privately hoped that PSG, Monaco or Real Madrid would bid, but alas they haven't.

Suarez is also thought to want a move away from Anfield and liked the idea of joining Madrid (obviously) but the bottom line is he wants champions league football and he does not feel that under Rodgers or with Liverpool he is going to get it. This has been reinforced by the c list players Liverpool have brought in so far. Aspas? He knows Liverpool are a lost cause and wants champions league football before the MASSIVE world cup in South America. (maybe raising his profile and brand?)

Arsenal are extremely interested in Suarez but would like to keep the transfer under £50 million. Everyone in south America believes Suarez is a world class player, even more influential in a match than Cavani (My source loves Suarez i. e a bar fly in buenos aires) and they believe he should be at a top club and will not remain at Liverpool for long.

I'm not sure whether to believe this or not and he did not seem to know if Arsenal had a real chance in signing him but he was adamant that Liverpool are actively looking to sell Suarez.

Lonewolf

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I'm not a Liverpool fan but have you watched Aspas? He is a dam good player and will prove the bargain of the summer. Just because players aren't costing 50m doesn't mean there not quality. I thought you Arsenal fans would know that better than most! Good scouting is important! Look at Borissua Dortmund and the gems they have unearthed!

Liverpool have spent far more money than Arsenal but not spent wisely. However look what they done in January. Coutinho and Sturridge who I absolutely didn't rate would probably grace any premier league team on their day. Note on their day!

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I'll give it to Rogers he is a damn good scout, I have no doubts he would be use the Suarez money extremely well, and it's for this reason I wish he'd stop being a bitch and going on about loyalty and take the long view that with £50m or a bit under they could sign some real gems to flesh out the squad there. He's done so well with Sturridge (come at me b*tches!), Coutinho, Mignolet and Aspas.

I just wish he'd see it that way and just get the bloody deal done. If you already know that when it's all said and done, he's leaving, just deal with it and move on. He has to accept it's symptomatic of no CL football and it's no slight on him or the club that Suarez wants to leave to play CL. IT's just unfortunate that it's the stage they're in. They won't be forever though and that 50m would go a long long way to changing it. Just sell the guy and rebuild, face the inevitable!

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Well metal gooner Suarez is a disgrace. If He is so adamant about playing CL then why is he not handing a transfer request

KopHero {Ed027's Note - I suspect, he will be in for some kind of money if he dosen't

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That's what I am saying ed. He just wants money

KopHero {Ed027's Note - he is a piece of work, we're in the same situation Liverpool were in when they were lining him up

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27 Jul 2013 23:36:26
Ed, idea for a poll. Although, in all fairness it maybe a little soon.

Just want to gauge ppl's feelings.

Given the publically stated "new financial era", etc about being able to buy big players/big budget and so on.

If the club doesn't sign at least one proven quality player/marquee signing, will fans:

feel disappointed, but give wenger and the club a chance to build the squad next summer?

understand that you can't always sign the top players and our squad isn't too bad anyway?

Or, feel completely betrayed and let down, want answers to transfer policy and direction of club and demand significant changes to be made at the club?

Just an idea. Thanks.
LG {Ed052's Note -

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27 Jul 2013 22:59:40
Im not saying this is 100% accurate, but from my sources a rough idea of what may be happening behind the scenes:

GK-ARL possibly looking in spain for GK.


Strikers:

Suarez-ARL likely to lose out to Madrid. Suarez has been given an ultimatum by madrid and arsenal, that this is the only/last chance he'll get to join either team. Suarez prefers Madrid, but Real will come for him mid aug. Liverpool have played their part well and have frustrated arsenal with the price changes.

Wenger might give/rotate theo and giroud upfront for the season, he sees this as enough and expects results given both their development and experience. Expect Sanogo to be given a push.


Midfield:

One signing possibly a defensive midfielder but very undecided as they have a few in mind. Zelalem and Gnabry to be given roles, plus a big dependence on diaby.


Defenders:

Would have been only monreal but he came in last season. Wenger sees the three CB as enough. Jenko and Gibbs to push on.


The squad will be added to smartly, i. e. GK, MF and already the striking ranks.

But ARL are really gambling on 80% of this squads experience from last season to deliver the epl. Its more a change of mentality then players. They have shown what they are willing to do with the suarez bids.

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This is a RUMOURS forum, not a GUESS WORK forum!
WG

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99% of rumours on site are guess work, what's your point

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27 Jul 2013 22:50:50
Since I am so fed up with all the transfer nonsens that never happens I thought I should put in an effort in to talk about something different. I am not really sure as to what is going to happen to Frimpong this year. Apparently Fullham still wants to sign him up and I am thinking that it would be a bad idea for the club to let him go at this stage. I really like Frimpong as a player and I think his hard working, straight up hard play would benefit us as a club in the long run. He has been a bit unlucky with injuries the last 2 years but I think he is someone we should keep. What do you guys think about Frimpong? If anyone has any knowledge about his future other than what we can read online. Please enlighten us.

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Hi mate, I believe he has the raw ingredients to become the level that De Jong and that mental Milan player could be (his name escapes me). He's a better footballer than people realise and it would be nice to see the club stick by him through his injuries for that reason, being as we did the same for so many other crocks.
He hasn't been released, hasn't been sold and hasn't been loaned, I think he is in about the middle of a long recovery process and I would hope that he is maybe playing in time to get a january loan but that might be early.

Either way, it would be nice to see us stand by him for a bit longer, which I'm sure we will. He's a beast, he'll have loads of options. I'd love us to develop him ourselves though and in two or three years time he is that insane deep mid we wanted all along.

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27 Jul 2013 22:47:59
Quick question for the eds. with nb52 rejecting all clubs that are in for him surely we would be better just sacking him and getting him off the wage bill. I know you will say we can't sack him but his behaviour has been terrible (especially when he was at sunderland), I know if I had done some of the things he has I would be sacked from my job.

ty. 1 {Ed052's Note - I thought you were talking about sacking me until I realised what you meant. It's probably be too tricky and expensive}

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Ed, if your even remotely related to Nb52, you should be ashamed of yourself. even if your a cousin of a cousin of a cousin of a sister in laws cousin {Ed027's Note - lol

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27 Jul 2013 22:43:59
Every transfer window we are promised stars, this window is different because we have money, but I honestly believe we will get some new faces but no one we have heard of when wenger said we buy quality players not big names I think he was telling us don't expect the marquee signing. I for one would be happy with a new face to get excited about I knew nothing of cazorla and think he was our best player, last year so who knows maybe wenger has a unpolished diamond about to grace our great club fingers crossed. got to stay positive still plenty of time left.

ty. 1

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27 Jul 2013 22:41:12
Heard from a believable source that arsenal had bid accepted for Rooney but united pulled the plug when they heard we would match their cesc bid if barca accepted it. Guess this is why we are now going all out for Suarez.
Also heard we are waiting to see if cesc will leave before going back for fellani.
I'm told the cash is coming from usmanov for this big money bidding. not sure on that one though
Researched Bernard, my oh my, what a player, go get him arsene.

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Did you carry out your research using YouTube, because if you do the same for Gervinho (whilst at Lille), you would find out how good he seems to be (with some claiming he was better than Hazard).

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Lol if you research Gervinho on youtube from his Lille days you'll see that actually he was just as weird then. It hides it, but not if you look closely.

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27 Jul 2013 21:37:57
Liverpool fan in peace here.

I am sure all the fans here are bit annoyed with the statement of BR the other day.
with no disrespect to your club

But let's be honest, can you give luis suarez PL title or a CL medal next season or in tow?
simple answer NO.

so what's the logic in coming to you?

and BTW why fans here are worried. don't you remember what Barca said about arsenal in the Fabrigas saga?

No Offence
It was wors than this.

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There's every chance with Suarez we can be premier league contenders.

The thing that annoyed me was BR saying Liverpool are a bigger club that arsenal.

4 places separated us last year. We have a state of The art stadium which you will need soon enough if you want to compete at a top level again. Leaving you about a decade behind us.

The reason suarez will want to join is the allure of the champions league. Where the best players show what they can do. Liverpool are too far away from offering champions league before Suarez hits 30.

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We can give CL football MINIMUM.

That's the very best you can offer him. Maybe not even.

Plus, if we get the players we are after we could definitely give him a great chance at the EPL.

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Personally I don't want Suarez. The mans an out and out wrongern. The sadest thing of all is, your once great club with it's "great" fans made pathetic excuses for his behaviour. After the embarrassment he bought to your club, the excuses your fans made for him. The way he done Dalgliesh up like a keeper and you still chanted his name. But the saddest thing of all, after all that is if he had come out after the season had ended and said he wanted to stay, you'de all be over him like a dog on heat.
I guess that's the main reason why I don't want him. Everywhere he goes he brings turmoil, and the last thing I want is to be bought down to Liverpools level. A place where last season your morals went missing.
I would expect that at chavski, but sadly not Liverpool.
This post was also sent in peace.
Flybo

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Kipper :-)
Flybo

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I may be wrong but wasnt arsenals form after christmas as near as damn it the exact same as utds and they won the league, it was the first half of the season that let us down. no surprise really when you think of the new players (podolski, carzola, giroud, ect)needing time to bed in and not forgetting rvp and song leaving. I havnt looked at any stats but off the top of my head weren't we sitting around 8th-9th pos in the league around december?not bad going ehh. a lot of people have over looked this, taking this into account arsene wenger may be correct in stating we can challenge without making any signings as the team will defo be better this season than last, but if we where to get saurez and a couple of others I feel we would be right up there. to the lfc supporter, I appreciate BR will say and do things in the best interests of lfc, but he should engage his brain and check the facts before he makes off the cuff remarks about other teams, I know what he is trying to do at lfc and wish him goodluck, but I bet my house he would secretly admit to swaping the current lfc squad for arsenals squad in a heartbeat, no disrespect intended.

trev the gooner

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27 Jul 2013 20:56:45
I understand the right of Liverpool and BR to want to hold on to Suarez or not wanting to sell him to a direct rival. but calling Arsenal a smaller club, or suggesting that it will be a step down for Suarez shows a lack of class and respect for another club, and Liverpool for all their continuos rambling of history could have done better than for their manager and the owner dis-respecting another club and its values in public.

No wonder no one else wants to keep listening to their history lessons anymore. and I for one am tired of listening to LFC supporters talking of history and class when they themselves have shown an utter disregard for it.

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Thanks the monk I have been trying to post this same comment but couldn't word it right you have hit the nail on the head with this post. Liverpool have gone down in my estimation since this started we have conducted ourselves perfect since this saga happened and Liverpool have been second rate with their comments about our club. {Ed052's Note - Liverpool the club haven't made any comments but what Jh said was stupid and silly}

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When your on the subject of class don't their supporters issue death threats to their players if they leave

watford gooner

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Rodgers clearly said a side way step not a drop down.
Talk about drama queen stuff.

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Seriously - Arsenal need to win the CL before they can call themselves a big club.

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To Watford gooner, u sarcastically talk about class but if memory serves me right didn't I see a lot of arse fans mimicking adebayer with gun signs!! Yeah that's real class that is, coys

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27 Jul 2013 19:27:47
Pantomime season at the Emirates
Wenger we can challenge for the top this season Oh yes we can. Oh no you can't

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Where's the new signing? "He's behind you"!
WG

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27 Jul 2013 19:02:20
Arsene wenger: I am willing to wait for our transfer targets

What it really means: you utter, utter mugs believing I was actually ever going to change my ways! More fool you!

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27 Jul 2013 18:51:03
I realy feel that we need another central midfielder in ramsey/artetas mould to take the preassure of the two of them. Hard working, good technique and box to box players.

Disagree abit with people who sais we need a classic defending midfielder, because we have two deep central midfielders that together gives the team good balance and defencive quality.

Also Wenger has said that the old schoold defencive midfielder-role is a dying breed.

Gundogan would be perfect, but I won't leave Dortmund this summer. Fellaini is a good option aswell as he has shown he is good both attacking and defending. Also think it is a role well suited for the Ox though I prefer him further up the field.

Anyone agree, and what other similar players could we go for in that position?

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Gundogan is that you?

Brighton gooner

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27 Jul 2013 18:06:15
Wengers latest statement has the wenger philosophy of the last 8-9 years written all over it. Invest in youth, rely on injury plagued players and eventually sell finished articled players to the highest bidder. Wengers ethos has destroyed the very nature of the club which he more or less created a winning mentality that fought for honours and that were on par with the premiership elite. We are becoming a laughing stock not willing to go the whole 9 yards and complete a deal. Yes we may have offered 40m+ for Suarez but its a smokescreen not to spend big, fool gooners into thinking we will sign marquee world class players but rely on the same old sad story of being so near but so far. We tried our hardest to get him BS, but in reality the board wants to fill its own pockets
Higuain would have been ideal no baggage and proven goalscorer, a much better option than Suarez and a lot cheaper. Sadly we missed the boat again and it looks the same with Caesar Capoue Bernard Fellaini etc. We only need 2 or 3 players of world class status to fine tune a very good side into becoming champions rather than also Rans, so wenger smell the coffee and do what's right for the club, team, fans and your legacy. otherwise I think it's time to say au Revoir.

Hulk Hogunner

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I second that. Time's up AW. You were great but no longer. He was quoted last season as saying that this was the best squad he'd ever had.
His memory has gone!. Sad to watch and listen. If we don't buy quality, this season will be a repeat of 1, 2, 3 etc. years ago. I will always cheer, but unless things change, there will never be that confident feeling that we'll be the season's best team. What can ordinary fans do to encourage change? Answers please on a postcard.

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27 Jul 2013 18:03:35
I know people are getting quite annoyed about the lack of signings from Wenger, but I mean really. The transfer window still has like around a month left and transfers don't just happen overnight. Wait and see if we get anyone decent. If we do then it will be brilliant but if we don't we can just get on with it.

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27 Jul 2013 16:31:04
hello. I have been seeing reports of RM making contact with Suarez's agent which is interesting because Madrid will have to make a 40m+ bid before any kind of contact at least that is what his contact says.

I might be wrong though.
can we dismiss these reports?

Eds, what say? {Ed027's Note - dismiss

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27 Jul 2013 17:18:44
Following Wengers comments did anyone actually think that by the Emirates Cup we wouldn't have signed anyone other than Sanago?!

"We've got £70m to spend. "

"We're going to sign top, top players. "

"We could afford Wayne Rooney. "

Surely it's not just me that's feeling really annoyed at the lack of progress?!

Yes, there's still time in the window but we said that six weeks ago. The emirates cup is in a week and that would have been ideal for new signings to gel with the team.

Thoughts?

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Yeah, Sure is looking like another year of talk to get season tickets sold.

What makes it worse is hearing 'we can challenge for title'. that's a scary thing to say when failed against all the top 3 other teams last season. {Ed027's Note - we don't need to bs to sell season tickets, we have a waiting list of over 10,000 people or something silly

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27 Jul 2013 17:14:12
We will sign Suarez before the end of the transfer window, wenger is determined to sign him and is prepared to wait source tv! Come on Suarez, make the correct choice and help arsenal be successful again!!

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27 Jul 2013 17:06:08
GK shezza f*** the haters

RB, jenkinson, he's already better than sagna and has the potential to be england rb in brazil next year if he features for us regularly

CB, Mertesacker and Koscienly, I'd also like to see miquel promoted to our first team although I wouldn't mind a more experienced player to come in e. g. Williams.

LB, it's simple, Gibbs.

CM, Wilshere, Arteta & Cazorla in a 2-1 formation
back up would be Rosicky, Ramsey, (Diaby), and some of the emerging young talent such as Olssen, Eisfeld, Yennaris & Zelalem

LW, it's a hard one, Gibbs plays well with Podolski and The Ox. I've been disappointed with both of them last year but Chamberlain has a lot of talent, as does Podolski I think it will have to be up to who's in the better form. as for back up, Gnabry's pace is a good quality to have as is Ryo's but they both need to improve on their football, if they achieve that the could be brilliant. Gervinho has to go and I don't rate Ramsey as a wide player. I watched Joel Campbell play against real Sociedad and he looks a very good player, I hope we can get his visa sorted out soon he really impressed me.

RW, Walcott, could do with a younger understudy as back up either in the form of Gnabry or a new signing. preferably the RW equivalent of Arshavin, a spark the ability to play the ball and cut in off the wing with their stronger foot.

upfront? Giroud, i'd like to see some younger players in the early stages of the domestic cups, people like Akpom and Sanogo.

I don't think we need any big name signings a new RW wouldn't go a miss, an experience CB for back up and maybe a young forward to offer some flair when going forward. This side won't win the league but we could be back up their maybe 2nd or 3rd, could do well in the champions league and possibly win the FA cup if Wenger wants to

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What you are basically saying we will be up there but not winning anything last year we played well against average teams but the better clubs made us look ordinary, I believe for two reasons we lacked the creative player to unlock good quality defences and we were again suspect in defence suarez is needed to give the creative genius and we desperately need a proper d/m if he doesn't buy then we will be at best fourth simply not good enough. #
ty. 1

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Lol, we will not be winning anything without strengthening, time to take the tints off, we need to strengthen up GK, DM, CF

Dubz

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27 Jul 2013 15:51:11
I believe it will be awesome having a striker of Suarez' quality joining the team, BUT do we need it?

No to Suarez - Attitude problems of Suarez aside, I'm just not really sure we need another striker. Giroud, Podolski and Walcott are more than capable of scoring goals. None of them would get the number of goals Suarez would, but add them all together I think we would be doing awesome. I think the real need is for a gun defensive midfielder, and next area is the creative mid/winger.

Yes to Suarez - he's a player that can change games, one simple act of brilliance and we could steal a win that we haven't been capable of. 30 goals per season striker, guaranteed goals.

Looking at the two arguments, I'm still of the opinion that we don't need a star striker like Suarez.

Thoughts?

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We are in need of a player upfront who can score from everywhere inside and outside the box in tight games against top teams. If we sell Gervinho we don't have one player who can win duels with skill. We have a lot of pace in Wallcott, Chambo but we need a player like Suarez badly

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We couldn't get a win against the top 3 last season - to progress we need the potency to score against the best. For all his faults LS can give us that.

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We had some tight games last season, which usually ended up as draws.

With someone, as you suggest, who has the inspiration, that moment of brilliance, we could've got a win.

yeah definitely someone like suarez is needed.

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Arsenal my second team. If Suarez had the support he will get from arsenal he will score a phenomenal amount. From an outsider point of view, you need a player that wants to do nothing just score. Bags of pace and creativity just need a selfish, one track mind goal scored.

Suarez would be amazing at the emirates.

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We need that player up front like Henry who could win a game on his own. Suarez has potential or even IS that player, but I am realy doubtfull about him. He got so many issues that is non-football related. Think it is great the club is trying to spend money on world class talent though. Exciting!

Mr T

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Superb player. I pray he joins us.

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27 Jul 2013 15:32:19
at the end of the day liverpool do not wanna sell to arsenal. and arsenal are as tight as a ducks arse

that equals no suarez. why oh why oh why did we not go for higuain. the guy was exactly what we needed!

if the board/wenger as so arrogant and negligent to think this squad is good enough when tbf we didn't really deserve 4th last season and I recall the season before it was the same v west brom last day of season. we r at least four top players away from challenging for the title and every year like a lady of the night the gap gets wider.

i think for the last few seasons of hurt losing star after star eg hleb, fab, nasri, van persie regardless what they did afterwards at the time they were sold they were stars. warrants paying that extra 5 mill for hig. I mean we have the dough!

what about the fans that have stayed loyal. years of empty promises, and stars that have been sold, most expensive tickets in the land. all this has broken the fans down. I think we deserve the warm feeling a few top signings brings at the feeling we can actually challenge!

if arsenal was a girlfriend she would have been dumped years ago. but arsenal is forever in my heart and I will never give up hope!

k cider

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And that's the problem - the board know that's how fans feel, and so continue to exploit us.

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League table don't lie we finished 4th because we were the 4th best team simple as that

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27 Jul 2013 21:33:37
No you were actually the fifth best team. juts because the stupidity and blunder of spurs, they simple handed you the 4th spot.
spurs played much much better than arsenal whole last season {Ed027's Note - Just like Swansea played better than Liverpool?

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I assume by spurs you mean Bale, because he was the only thing that made them finish as high as 5th

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Actually I think you will find it was the quality and class of arsenal over the last 8 games

watford gooner

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27 Jul 2013 15:10:00
P!ss kind of kept a tiny bit of hope on GH untill I just seen it confirmed good luck to him think he really did want to come only for the dark arts of Madrid.

What's the betting were grouped with em in the Cl {Ed027's Note - we'll see him at the Emirates cup soon, and I would not be surprised if we have Napoli in our group if we qualify

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Ya but not too pushed bout the emirates cup but if we get them in Cl it'll be down to last group game at Napoli needing a win and hell score the equaliser haha

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At least with GH going to Napoli, he has a very good chance of silverware, your talking of the emirates cup like its a major comp, is that what u sad goons have come down to relying on a sad friendly tournament, haha 8 years and counting! Coys

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No one mentioned it being a major comp but while where at it enjoy the Europa league AGAIN ye might aswell because when hairclip leaves ye won't even get that

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27 Jul 2013 14:37:50
Wenger says we have strong enough squad to challenge for trophies. Which ones Arsene, Johnstone Paint Trophy or maybe the tournament my 14 year old is playing in next week.?Come on get real Arsene I love Arsenal but mate we are all getting fed up with the never ending false promises that come out of your mouth. I hope that when I am at the Emirates Cup next Sunday I don't see any anti Wenger banners. Some how I can't imagine it won't happen.

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Tbh I wouldn't care if arsenal dropped out of the champions league or worse got relegated I would still support them as I have done since I was a little boy as that's my club and they are a part of my life and as a fan there will always be hope but as a real fan I stay loyal and what is the point in moaning if things change then that's great but people need to stop whinging because that's life.
Ali

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Ali you are an person. Nobody is going to stop supporting their team but questioning the manager, and protesting that the club is going backwards is something that needs to happen.
I might strangle the next "In Wenger we trust" fool. 9 years and people don't learn.

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Ali
i would care if arsenal got relegated but apart from that I agree with everything you say

trev the gooner

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In Wenger we trust. Lolz

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When we pay top dollar to get into games, buy replica shirts etc - we are entitled to voice our concerns.

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Ali you may try to hold the moral high ground with your views, but a club like arsenal will not be going down anytime soon, we have the resources to be the best in the land, but are being held back by tight a!e dithering persons who are too afraid to realise the truth
Your statement is music to the lame boardrooms ears, fans with no ambition and fight

Hulk Hogunner

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27 Jul 2013 23:37:59
if your going to reply to posts at least sign off i'm just saying how a true supporter feels not some fake glory person
ali

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28 Jul 2013 13:19:44
real fans want success we pay good money to watch our heroes every week that doesn't make us fake glory people
8-9 years without a trophy hurts especially when we have resources to change that statistic
having ambition does not make you a fake

hulk hogunner

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27 Jul 2013 14:30:11
CORRECTION. You all know the saying.
"No news is good news"
But in our case it should be
"No news is the same old news"
Now THAT'S! the quote that should go down in Arsenal history.

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???????????????????

This makes no sense.

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27 Jul 2013 12:17:07
Noticed a lot of posts stating we'll be disappointed at the end of the transfer window. An understandable opinion based on past windows. I on the other hand believe it will be a very healthy one for us based on I'm not quite sure. I'll probably be proved completely wrong, but I just have this niggling feeling that something big which hasn't even been mentioned yet will come out of know where. Yes I know I'm setting myself up for a fall, but hey-ho.

So just wondering if you Eds would deem the question
"Do you think it will be a good transfer window for us" a worthy enough question to put on the Voting poll page.
Thanks
Flybo {Ed027's Note - will do mate, thanks for that, VOTE!

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You know what flybo, I agree with your hunch and have a similar feeling. I really hope we're right.
LG

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27 Jul 2013 08:55:55
Ed,
A poll question?
Who would be the most important non-player signing for Arsenal today?

David Dein
Patrick Vieira
Denis Bergkamp
Thierry Henry
A replacement for Arsene Wenger

Max Farnham {Ed027's Note - done. VOTE!

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I voted Bergkamp but think I should have voted Henry in hindsight. I believe either could change our attacking style, which has become identical and robotic from season to season for about 5 years now, regardless of the striker. For me that's a coaching thing. We've never looked good enough attacking in all that time even with RVP. It's definitely got worse, and more predictable. So either attacking coach for me!

I don't get why people choose Dein. He's in contact with Wenger all the time, and with the club. If people don't think he discusses the market and what we can and can't do, with Wenger, I'd question that. So his influence is there. So I don't see what bringing him back would do. I think it's a false hope, is what I'm saying.

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I haven't voted as its a bit of a strange one with 3 players + Dein.
I would say though without Dein those 3 players may never have materialised as arsenal players.

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Sorry misread the poll. It's been a long week

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27 Jul 2013 14:23:01
Hi Gooners


Really what is AW trying to say. His latest comments regarding "able to compete for the title even if we don't get any players". again shows AW has in mind not to buy players if they are not available at the right price.

Let me ask AW, by not bringing any players means we have the same squad which was there last season - Did we were challenged for the title then? We just about managed to get 4th. How the hell you will challenge for Title with this same squad in the new season, when last season we came 4th.

What about Injuries? Who will YOU replace? I don't know he is willing to wait and play this game with Liverpool for Suarez (40 million + still not clear how much? - Also 6 games ban), or just buying time and showing the world we are trying to buy marquee signing, but instead signs couple of squad players, who can be used when some 1st team man gets injured or even take someone on loan as well? who knows what the hell this freak upto?

Where the hell is Ivan now? He was doing lot of talk about this money thing we got, but still nothing to show for. I think he has also given up and says "you can't compete with Wenger in terms of Economics".

I still don't believe we will buy Suarez. 40+ million player with that kind of attitude is completely not AW like signing.

I also don't understand he is willing to spend 40+ million on Suarez but 30+ million is too much for Higuain? People say Suarez has Quality and Nightmare for defenders, but I say Higuain is World Class Quality For God sake AW he has been a Real Madrid Player for 7 years (good amount of time to spend in a club), no one can last so long in Madrid without giving that kind of Quality. He is a Goal Scorer AND HE SCORES GOALS, A PROVEN FINISHER AND ALSO DOES CREATE GOALS AS WELL. (CHECK HIS STATS). SUAREZ IS Better in one to one situations and a nightmare for defenders, but he is a cheater. I would not play with a cheater who dives, Bites and say things about that club who stood by the player. Bye the way if RM don't get Bale they will surely get into this Suarez transfer and take him away. Liverpool is also monitoring this and waiting if something happens or not? They won't to Arsenal so easily.

Also was really disappointed with Liverpool Management and Managers comments. What the hell? the player says in public he will leave and wants a transfer well before the transfer window has started, what do you expect from other clubs to do? Sit tight and wait or you will go all in for the player which you require.

PLEASE BUY OTHER PLAYERS AS WELL.


GOONERS

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27 Jul 2013 14:46:08
Spot on fella!

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27 Jul 2013 14:12:32
All,
No transfer news however with all the rumours and players we have been linked with, I have a challenge for Arsene and the board,
If we sign no players to improve the team then they should all resign,
This will be done by fan power and pressure from the media, through demonstrations and playing in an empty stadium, we are not accepting this anymore.
Everybody knows we need to strengthen our team, so Arsene this is your last chance to show us the fans and supporters that Arsenal is in your heart and not PSG or any other team,
What do you all think about my comments,
If they will not change, we will have to make a difference as this IS OUR CLUB,
and we need to make the difference,
AST, are you behind us or following the old cheap talk we have been given over the past!

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I agree totally. I think the fans need to make it clear that this is getting ridiculous. I think the Villa game should be used to protest. A stay-a-way day would do the job. Nice empty stadium saying thanks for the last 9 years and no new signings to try and help

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And how does that make the players that are at our great club feel. Fantastic support to show to them that is.

Why can't we just get behind the team the players that are there and want to win things. We don't always get what we want in life but that doesn't stop us getting on with it.

Estepona gooner

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These two posts above look more likely to be spurs/chelski/man u supporters than gooners- if nopt why do they post anonymously?

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27 Jul 2013 13:59:07
bit disappointed with liverpool of late. always thought they conducted themselves well but the luis suarez saga has shown them to be a bit childish really

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Why? Because they want to keep a player who is under contract?

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No because of the needless and personal attacks against our great club. personally speaking nothing surprises me anymore by what comes out of anfield/lfc they have dropped a lot in the eyes of neutral fans over the last few years

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So you want us to sell Suarez on a less price?
Well every club want maximum money for their player

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Kophero
if you don't like the price we have offered then don't sell him simple, there is absolutly no need to carry-on the way you, se are (slagging of our club)have lfc never purchased a player another club didn't want to sell? I seemed to remember this time last year you lot where all up in arms when dave whelan said a few things because lfc where sniffin around martinez also didn't brenda break his word to swansea about coming back to steal players. honestly! you lot need to look in the mirror more often

trev the gooner

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Sorry mate your right we don't want to lose any neutral fans ill have word with BR and tell him the way you are feeling i'm sure he will sort out something for you ok mick dublin

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27 Jul 2013 13:57:10
We have a strong enough squad to challenge for trophies Arsene Wenger. Sorry Arsene you do not.

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That may be so, but just by saying that he A) has told clubs who he's buying from, we don't NEED your player. and B) told his players, you have my confidence.

now if he buys a few signings and goes back on his word here. who crying?

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27 Jul 2013 13:51:13
Just read AW is convinced with or without new players we can challenge for the EPL!

Is this an indication we will not be buying anyone?

I sense many unhappy goners reading his comments.

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Of course we will buy

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27 Jul 2013 13:49:01
I know there's still time to go in the transfer window but I'm seriously getting frustrated now. I let myself get excited by the Higuain rumours and gutted that we missed out on him because I genuinely think he's exactly what we needed. I'm taking these Suarez rumours with a pinch of salt though, he's a proven PL goalscorer and I have no doubt he'd score 15 or even 20+ goals for us. I'm not too bothered by his attitude or behaviour but is he really worth what Liverpool are asking for him? I look at other teams who have already signed their targets and then us who have only signed a young striker who's not likely to play. I feel like the team has no ambition, we're relying on Bale leaving the spurs or we risk being stuck in 5th. I thought the fact that we have Champions League football would help us in the transfer market but apparently not. Sorry for the rant but every transfer window leaves me disappointed, its the worst part of the year for us Gunners!

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What! the saurez bid is real it is not a rumour, 32m for higuian was far to much

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27 Jul 2013 13:46:30
You all know the saying "No need is good news" but in our case "No news is the same old news"
That quote by me should go down in history.

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27 Jul 2013 13:23:11
Hi Guys,

I hope your all enjoying the sunshine because there is much else to enjoy, if you know what I mean.

Thought I would just drop my own opinions down, I don't have any relations or inside information, just my gut feeling.

Big Mistake was to announce that Arsenal have 70 million plus to spend, I personally think this was announced by gazidas to influence the sale of Season Tickets. We all noticed on the tv and at home games that the attendance was getting less and less because of the negativity on the pitch and from the board.

I agree that every player has his price and I also agree that the transfer market has gone crazy with the price on players that have gone from club to club - 55 mill for Cavanni? - 48 mill for Neymar? I know which I would prefer! 50 mill+ for Suarez I personally don't think he is worth that and would rather Real Madrid go for Suarez and we go for Benzema.

My problem is why do we always seem to go around the houses with transfers, should we not to tie up signings early and have them play with us when we are having pre-season friendly s.

I know that if you read the papers we can get all excited however we all know Arsenal keep quiet on transfers until they are signed or very close to being signed.

My honest opinion is that we have missed out on a lot of possible transfers and I don't think anyone major will come in like a marquee signing, more like a few panic buy singings, hope I am proved wrong.

My biggest concern is this could be yet another season of broken promises and boardroom hype that everything is rosy and bright at AFC and we are slowly falling further back from the top three teams that have all progressed this season and we are still playing catch up.

Anyway I am due to go on holiday shortly so here's to me walking to the local Turkish paper shop praying for some divine intervention signing at my beloved Arsenal.

MerchyBoy.

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27 Jul 2013 12:39:24
I think it's becoming clear. Our club lies to us again. Do you really think Suarez will come to Arsenal? Because he won't.

I have been told from numerous sources that Bernard is a likely transfer, as well as Gustavo but any 'big names' will not be coming to Arsenal as the club simply do not want to pay asking prices from other clubs.

As long as we are under this board and Wengers inability to take risks when buying no big names will join Arsenal.

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Most of the time asking prices are between 20%-30% more than what the player is really worth hence negotiation. as lfc have said saurez is defo not for sale, therefore as it stands no price is acceptable at the moment. we have to wait and watch developments at anfield and hope lfc soften their stance, but at the same time explore other avenues/targets.

trev the gooner

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What? If we got Bernerd and gustavo I would be very happy don't think we need striker as much as people think

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27 Jul 2013 12:11:40
After everything that has been promised nothing yet again. Disappointed
89'gooner

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27 Jul 2013 12:03:26
Suarez is a mighty player, a poacher. an opportunist. This also applies to his character. If he has a stellar season with us ( supposing he signs that is. ) Watch him get on his toes either next year or the following one if Real come a knocking. Rate the guy as a footballer, sadly not as a human being.

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You are probably right. That's why the club (if he does signs), needs to slap a minimum release clause in his contract, just to cover ourselves and get our money back.

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27 Jul 2013 08:56:21
Interesting to hear LS taking legal action and potentially going crying to the FA to force a move. I'm sure given his fantastic relationship with the footballing authorities they'll be very sympathetic to his plight!
If LS wants the move to arsenal so much, just put in a transfer request to force the issue. Why hasn't he done that? Because he'll lose out financially which shows what a mercenary he is.
In my opinion let him go to arsenal then wait for him to kick off and demand a move to barca, real or man city. after all arsenal have historically been a feeder club for two of those teams over recent years.
Leffeman101

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I really hope saurez does come to us as lfc will officially be our feeder club llf

trev the gooner

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Poor effort Trev. u sold have your team to Man City lol

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27 Jul 2013 11:09:24
Hopefully we don't get Suarez great player but I just don't like him Fred, cardoza, soldado, Muriel, Jackson Martinez are all good strikers and should be looked at were still miles away from winning anything we still need 3 world class players

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'We still need 3 world class players. '
'Hopefully we don't get Suarez. '

Really?

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27 Jul 2013 11:08:15
"We still have a strong squad but we are there on the market to try to strengthen our team. With or without additions we can be title challengers next season. "

So it begins.

Sydney!

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27 Jul 2013 10:36:07
Same old story. We are linked with top players & end up signing none of them. Wenger is now stating that we have a strong squad, irrelevant of whether additions are made. That is simply not true. We did not beat any of the teams above us last season and with no additions, the same is likely to occur in the forthcoming season. At present, we have two fit experienced centre backs, with Vermaelen out for 3 months and Miquel clearly not ready. The option is to move our best right back, Sagna, to centre back. We also lack a defensive midfield player, creative midfield player, a wide player and a top notch striker. Numerically, if you ignore the youngsters and accept that Gervinho, Bendtner, Chamakh, etc are departing, then we have something like 21 squad players over 21 years of age. That does not constitute sufficient numbers to compete in all competitions and means certain players will be overplayed and suffer fatigue and ultimatley the injuries that have plagued our squad. As a simple example, if you have 4 top centre backs, you can alternate them, rather than continually play the same pairing until they break down with injury. If we signed Williams, once Vermaelen is fit, we would have 4 quality options, without reverting to a youngster who clearly isn't ready or converting a full-back. Fingers crossed that Wenger is putting other clubs off the scent. My own opinion is that a leopard doesn't change his spots and more of the same will occur, being well off the pace of he 3 above us and contending with the Toot for 4th place.

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27 Jul 2013 10:05:28
I'm genuinely starting to think we will end up with a couple of risky last min transfers on deadline day and nothing before then.

Wenger saying we won't sign anyone within the next week in the metro and were not at all close to signing Suarez. Without any key signings, were handing champs league spot to spurs next season.

We've lost Higuain
Is Suarez genuinely the answer to our problems up front?

I know it's good with a lot of the deadwood shifted but we're genuinely starting to look low on numbers. Injuries will kill us off this season without several good signings happening soon.

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27 Jul 2013 09:55:29
Any Liverpool fans still spurting rubbish how you're a bigger club than arsenal should read the news that you are supposedly up for sale for £350 mil, now whether that's true or not is beside the point, £350 mil? Is that all? When there was talk of arsenal being sold it was for round the billion pound mark, one crazy report suggested some Arabs were to bid £1. 5 billion, now obviously not worth that but I think we're good value for £1 billion. So yes Liverpool great history and I club I respect and a club well respected around the world, but please stop with the absolute bull that Liverpool is a bigger club than Arsenal, sorry THE ARSENAL

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Our yearly turnover will be 300+mil within a few seasons- not far short of how much someone may pay for Liverpool!

But I agree, Liverpool is a proper footballing club, great history, tradition, so I don't want to be too hard.

I prefer them to the sugar daddy clubs and the mob down the road, any day.

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You're not a 'Big' club till you win the CL. That includes City, PSG, and other wannabes. {Ed027's Note - so Aston Villa and Wolves are a bigger club than Arsenal? I think not

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No but if you win it 5 times you are

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27 Jul 2013 09:37:54
Having read Wenger latest comments I am now convinced no big signings are heading our way, this may not be a bad thing, we all know he likes value players so maybe they are looking under the personic press rumours, fan anticipation etc to find all real quality out there.
In hope, time is running out

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27 Jul 2013 09:11:03
Wenger says that he is happy to wait for targets, why wait, you got the money buy now you f. g person!

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27 Jul 2013 08:48:34
So, Bernard arriving on Friday eh, don't get carried away guys. As I've said before, don't expect any marquee signings as they just ain't going to happen.

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Mate, don't worry!
He's just back logged is all, he's still waiting for M'villa to get out the medical room!

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How do we know you have said it before when you don't sign off?
Maybe your silly for believing people saying someone will sign on a certain day!

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Love the enthusiasm, try not get to carried away though!

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27 Jul 2013 08:41:50
I can't help but think arsenals decision to announce they have a large transfer now has somewhat added to the long drawn out process of any arsenal transfer. Clubs know we have the money and are sucking every last last pound out of us. Wenger keeps his stuff on the low down, but I can't help but think he is happy with the current squad and we may end up with nothing.

Bernard is a exiting player. I sure hope we are seriously in for him. Williams would be a solid additional and a decent striker would be ideal. But not many top strikers left and if we again annoy other clubs with silly bids according to reports then we will get no where.

I am not being negative here gooners. But I think one signing will spark a flurry of English transfers.

Somerset Gooner.

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How 'annoyed' does a business get when one tries to purchase one of your assetts?

i honestly think some fans are deluded when they think about the business side of football

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27 Jul 2013 08:35:40
IMO we need what Bayern have in Van Buyten, An expirenced good 4th choice CB who can fill in when were short.

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I think that we should've gone for Toure.

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Good idea but players like that don't want to be sitting on the bench as back up

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Paul?

So you think Van Buyten will start ahead of Dante, Badstuber, Boateng and Kirchoff?

He definitely will not. More than happy to sit on the bench.

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No he would leave to a team where he would play!

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27 Jul 2013 08:17:38
Ryo not going out on loan gervinhos replacement?

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27 Jul 2013 08:11:05
Just replying to Holmsey's post about FFP and legal action from the overspending clubs.

I'm no legal expert but if UEFA failed to implement the rules correctly then they would surely be leaving themselves open to all kinds of litigation.

Just imagine a situation where a properly run club finished one place outside their domestic CL qualification and an overspending non FFP compliant team finished in a qualifying s slot. If UEFA then admitted the non compliant team they would leave a barn door of litigation claims from the compliant team against UEFA

Its not going to be as simple as 'such and such a club is too big'. UEFA have to apply the rules

The problem then is that the big clubs will have had lawyers and accountants crawling all over this FFP rules pack and they will have plans in place to get round them.

The other issue is that clubs have to be 'admitted' to the CL. UEFA rules have covered this for years and they can refuse admittance - remember the blanket ban on English teams in the early 90s and I'm sure some teams have been excluded for match fixing etc recently. To a degree and subject to being able to justify their decision this mean UEFA should be ok to exclude non compliant teams

Question is - do they have the guts to follow their own rules if it meant kicking Real Madrid, Barcelona etc out?
Only time will tell on that one

Soopergooner

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27 Jul 2013 07:52:38
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, wake up and smell the coffee, this is Arsene Wagner we are talking about, he is taking all the Gooners on a dreamers ride this pre season. Don't get me wrong, he may bring in 1-2 more un proven players on the 11th hour, but that will be it. Forget Suarez, it's comical. Post this eds and see how many believable I get. Everyone knows.

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I hate to agree with you but his most recent comments point towards that.
If he doesn't sign anyone and gets a new contract it will be insulting to say the current squad can challenge for the title this season is a joke we have less depth. Prove me wrong Wenger.

Bournemouth Gooner

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27 Jul 2013 12:07:54
Shouldn't your sign off be Wagnerout?

Stoner

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Are you related to champagne Charlie?

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There are no believable buttons on the banter page. Your argument is therefore invalid.

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Just like last year when he brought in Carzola, Podolski, Monreal and Giroud and was silent on all.

Stop living vicariously through the media.

We conduct our business as we always have, privately.

Have some optimism mate!

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27 Jul 2013 05:10:30
Real madrid have just ordered a truck's worth of bicep meat. expect the suarez deal to be finalized soon. sorry guys

:)

RY

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27 Jul 2013 03:05:03
why did we not try get tevez and villa would have cost way less than suarez and would have given us great options {Ed027's Note - Suarez doesn't give us great options? Suarez is a class above, Villa is past his best days (although still a great player imo) he wanted to stay in Spain, it as essential for him, add to the fact, in afew years we'd be looking for his replacement. Tevez will cause trouble, he'll want to go back to Argentina soon, and he claims he wants to retire early...on top of that City would NOT sell to uss. I know Suarez could cause trouble too btw.

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Like the comment that Suarez could cause trouble from ed. This is my main problem with the transfer. I honestly think he would give us 2 years and be great for those 2 years and then do what he has done to his last 3 clubs and force his way out making us look like mugs and maybe getting £20m back if we are lucky. Then we need to look to start over again anyway so I agree with the poster Villa would have been a great buy (hig would have been amazing)

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27 Jul 2013 02:51:11
"We are not close to signing suarez or any other player, I soubt anything will happen before the emirates cup. "
"Even without any additions, this squad has the capability to win silverware next season"

Arsene Wenger in his most recent interview!

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Extremely worrying. The squad is woefully short of experienced players. We desperately need a 4th centre back, a defensive midfield player, a wide player and a forward.

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I agree, really wenger really we need Caesar, Williams, fellaini, possible winger and Suarez do your transfers quickly and make sure you bring in these players.

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He can't really believe that this squad with no additions can win silverware? There is appeasing the fans and journo's and then there is out and out stupidity.
I think Wenger has 3 pieces of paper on his desk at the Emirates, one that says things to say at the end of the season, one that says things to say in July and August and the last one says things to say in January, and they are all dated circa 2006.

1404
Say no to Suarez

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Great, so that's 3 new signings on the way very soon then!

I am joking ofc, but we know what wenger is like. Rarely reveals anything.

We will make signings, don't worry about that.

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If as AW say's that we can win silverware with this squad, I think he means one of the smaller cups so now he has added a cup to 4th place as the target. If he was just to get Suarez then we could go up another level to the league and European cup. If this is the only player that we are going for then increase the bid instead of just waiting for something to happen.

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He's not going to say he is worried as not great for negotiations nor player motivation

Keep calm

SY4

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Maybe if Arsenal had a pre season tour which consisted of Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and the two Milans instead of Vietnam and Thailand and a couple of club teams from Japan, maybe he'd remember "Oh yeah, actually we do need men in A. S. A. P" No offence meant to the boys, you can only beat what's in front of you, and the young lads have done really well for themselves aswell, but if Mr. Wenger honestly thinks that beating the likes of these in pre-season shows you're ready to win the league, hmmm.

Shayman

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He's not going to say our current squad is not capable of competing that's bad for team morale.

We're not close to any signings
I've never heard of cazorla
There's no deal for Arteta
There will be more lies from him regarding our closeness to completing transfers just wait and be patient for when players do come

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What do you expect him to say when the current team are on an unbeaten run from the end of last season.

He can't say this team aren't challenging and we need 5 or 6 players as that will just kill morale.

AFC_pizz

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Wenger said this about podolski. He also said it about Carzola that he had no idea who he was. Along with many more. Its all mind games.

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"Even without any additions, this squad has the capability to win silverware next season"

In Wengers defence, what's he supposed to say?

"I've got a team full of mugs and I'm desperate to get more players in!"?

Suarez is a genuine target and if the paper reports are to be believed, it's going to be a fire sale at that club soon, everything must go. including the club! We WILL make signings these year, unfortunately, they might just not be the ones we'd like. Still keeping a little bit of faith over here. I know we've hardly played world class teams in the Asia Tour, but we're looking solid right now.

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27 Jul 2013 02:24:22
I read on a website that if arsenal don't sign Suarez that they will turn their attention to edin dzeko. Is there any interest from arsenal in him??

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Anyway I thought the spurs were looking to get him. We have more than 70m let's pay up and land Suarez.

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I think I remember arsenal being interested some years ago, before he signed for citeh. So I guess wenger has had interest in him at some point.

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I have not heard any interest. But I still have a feeling he will be our next target.

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27 Jul 2013 00:32:40
{Ed027's Note - New poll made! - who should be our 1st choice goalkeeper? - vote!}

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