Arsenal Banter Archive April 28 2014

28 Apr 2014 22:38:03
Sorry got my Maths wrong it is 11 conceded t home and 5 of those were in 2 matches .

Just need to sort out how we travel away from home

{Ed025's Note - by bus..

Just in time I was nearly going to pull you up.

28 Apr 2014 22:23:59
Im one that thinks injurys have played apart again this season.
Look at Rambo, we missed the little welshman.
And being a true welshman, it means that while wales boycot the world cup he won't have to travel.
See you at barry island Rambo

28 Apr 2014 22:14:55
Happy st.totteringhams day everyone!

19 Years in a row!

28 Apr 2014 21:57:47
Happy totteringhams all

28 Apr 2014 21:55:45
It's officially Saint Totteringham's Day!

Forever in our shadow.

EDS
can you tell me the last time spurs finished above us, save me looking it up,
cheers

{Ed025's Note - dont be lazy!..

I think it was when George Graham got sacked, so 1995 or 1996 if memory serves me right.

Actually, i'm certain it was 1995 because it was just before Wenger took charge.

28 Apr 2014 21:33:31
Good to see us protecting Rambo and Ozil

May be tempted to take Kos off to ensure no stupid second yellow

28 Apr 2014 22:00:34
Gents and lady,

It has happened.

For the 2nd time this season, yes I will say it again, for the 2nd time this season, Gunner62 has got a score prediction correct.

G62, you beauty. Take a son, take a bow.

DAGS
but he dropped a bol88k with the goal scores
62 hold yr head in shame, lol

None in 42 years and then two right in one season, I'm still taking it in to be honest folks
I would just like to say I couldn't have achieved this unbelievable moment with out the support of my fellow posters.

I'm sure we can forgive him Welsh lol

Oh God G62,

Please don't go into 'Gwyneth Paltrow accepting an Oscar mode'.

Lol

28 Apr 2014 21:14:27
Newcastle are so poor that its hard up believe we are playing a premiership team. Diabolical.

{Ed025's Note - i agree goldie, pathetic..

But its 3 points

Slightly biased opinion Ed?

{Ed025's Note - no mate..they are a very poor side, they did not even try dags, i really feel for their supporters, they are great and follow the team all over the gaff in droves...pity the team are absolute excrement..

Totally agree Ed.

The thing is, Mike Ashley is one of the richest men in England, but he just sits back, relaxes and does nothing about it.

Totally agree with your comments, their fans are an amazing bunch and any decent football supporter would feel very sorry for them.

Not often I agree with fans showing 'Sack the manager' banners, but on this occasion I do (although I have sympathy for Pardew)

For me i'd be gutted being a toon fan almost as hard to take as our away form against the big boys

sick as a parrott

{Ed025's Note - they deserve better G74 mate..

I take my hat off to the toon army they come regardless and moan a lot less than us but get done as bad if not equal away from home yet home form ain't brilliant either

i'd happily take some results above today as I love the geordies they bring it to life in london


wish we could act with their class at home but I saw the posters re pardew but they got batted down

Sick as a parrot

Sick as a parrot

Sorry, couldn't resist.

28 Apr 2014 20:50:01
Get the third and end it

Class first half, played nice and patient

How does Giroud shoot right at Krul there? Literally right at him twice in a row

Amazing

28 Apr 2014 19:19:34
STEVE
Iv heard spurs say nicer things about us, Then you

Mate, is their anything posative to come out of this year.
Let me point out a few for you to knock over
1 F a cup to look foraward to.
2 hopefully in the champions league
3 some amazing players in our team
4 great foundations that are club are built on.
5 having a manager that does not want to be the focus of it all, and slagged our manager off
Steve I agree everybody should have their say and I read most of it, but man do you worship (the portugues idiot, mate it is laffable)
im worrying that your turning into the grumpy old man that's sits in the corner and moans about everything
Good do I feel better now

ED
Is that what I said, lol you do a beter job then my old secatery
Steve if I went over the top i'm sorry pre match nerves
But mate please look up and see the good thing, we are not perfect but were not accrington stanley, yet

I have my say which that is what I am allowed to do. I usually back it up with facts, I don't always agree with people and I never call people for what they think either. I have my say they have theirs and matey I respect theirs wether I agree or no.

28 Apr 2014 18:40:53
Long term reader rare poster . Following Chelsea`s parking the bus on Sunday got me thinking yes that`s what we should do away from home. But we can`t do that and is why we don`t have a plan B because we have small skilful players Santi, Jack, Ozil even Theo Ox and Arteta - all completely geared to attack minded football. Compare them to Ivanovic, Mikel Lampard and Matic etc who are geared to play the type of game needed to beat the top teams away. We have tried to go toe to toe as we have not got the players to park the bus. We have said for ages BUY A QUALITY STRONG CDM - or 2 - and a QUALITY CF - or 2 - and we will challenge and have a plan B for the away games against the top teams. Just my view
COYG

Yes good post and a lot of good points.

Good post Sussex

28 Apr 2014 17:04:15
To G62

Re A poem,

Jack and Ozil, went up Highbury hill, to fetch a pale of lager.

Jack fell down and broke his crown and Ozil passed the ball to him.

lol

Nice one DG keep them coming mate

28 Apr 2014 16:11:11
Serious question for you lot with the summer window looming again. I see that speculation about us making a £40m move for Benzema has sparked up again, that means we're linked with six strikers going into the transfer window. I was just wondering, of the 6 I'm about to list, which one would you like to see at the club most and which on the least? For me it has to be this:

1) Benzema - Has proven time and again that he can turn up to the biggest of games and is a proven goal poacher. That plus his link up with Ozil will really strike fear into opposing defenders.

2) Balotelli - Workrate leaves a bit to be desired but I still think that under the right manager he'll become an absolute worldy. He's only what 23? And he's one of the most composed strikers on the ball that I've seen when he's on his game.

3) Cavani - Proven world class talent, is banging them in left right and centre even though he's mostly been played out of position. Fantastic workrate and physical presence. I only wonder after his performances against Chavski whether he's got the nerve to step up for the bigger games.

4) Diego Costa - I still think he'll end up at Chavski but he's bascially what Giroud should be. He's got pace, he's lethal in the air, composed finisher and great on the ball.

5) Jackson Martinez - Given the price, possibly the most likely signing unless Madrid break another record to sign Suarez. Basically he's the Colombian equivalent of Costa. My only concern is that he's been playing in the portuguese league. I wonder if he'll be able to step up in the Prem.

6) Mandzukic - Personally I don't want him. Too much of a Giroud type player in my view, big strong target man, bit slow, could potentially be another flop. The only reason he's got such a good record is because of the team behind him in my opinion. That and I don't really see why we'd need two of the same type of player with one being a little bit better.

What you reckon?

Cheers

Totally agree.

Benzema - Most or possibly Balotelli (but only if he can sort his head out)

Mandzukic - Least, Good player but is slow and has seen better days

Sadly players we are unlikely to get and unlikely to come to us I'm afraid

28 Apr 2014 13:52:13
Anyone else think that after gerrard's clanger v Chelsea, if it was the BFG who made that mistake and slip in an Arsenal game, the tv pundits and media would have crucified him, saying he's too slow and not good enough for the PL etc etc. but because it was the media darling 'Stevie G' hardly anything gets said about a shocking lack of first touch, just sympathy.
2 faced media!

lets put on a show tonight and next week and tie up 4th before the final!

It can't be Gerrard's fault, he's English.

I hate Steven Gerrard. Loved his slip though!

Apparently carragher blamed it on sakho. All I can say about that is WOW!

28 Apr 2014 12:02:49
For me do you park the bus, do you play total football, do you play long ball, do you play possession football.
if you don't have the mixture you don't have variety and you want to watch basketball. Win the football match and you will get more people who agree your style wins and lose and you get more people who dont. This is the premier league and it is popular around the world because of its variety, not because its the best.

28 Apr 2014 09:55:05
Check out the pic on Arsenal sighting's.

Especially Ed025, lol.

Sorry mate, got day off work and I'm bored.

{Ed025's Note - love it dags...but how did they get a mirror on that page?.. :)

Lol Ed,

You should see the comments from Ed001 attached to the pic, cracked me up.

{Ed025's Note - he is a very jealous guy dags..he just does,nt realize the amount of fry ups and alcohol that goes into making a figure like mine mate.. :)

Ed,

An hour down the gym or a kebab?

It's a tough choice. Chilly sauce on mine please mate.

{Ed001's Note - and there's me just getting back from a swim! Ya lazy gets. And no, I didn't have speedos on, sorry to disappoint you but Ed025 borrowed mine.}

28 Apr 2014 08:47:53
Hi there gooners, I think th eds must note down everyone sayin Wilshere out. So if next season comes & he steps up. We know who those people were. Last year, it was just "Ramsey out, he's th worsed player, not good enough for th team, I dnt understand why Wenger plays him, etc". Came this season & everyone is like Rambo is my favourite player. Thots?

Wilshere out is a total over reaction to me, Wilshere grow up is what I want.
Aaron got his head down and battled his way to the top, no putting his fingers up to opposition fans, no photos of him smoking and no giving his views on who should or shouldn't be able to play for England.
When Jack actually becomes a top player none of that stuff will matter but until then he needs to read the Aaron Ramsey guide on how to become a top player and stick to it.

Nam,

If your team plays well, its a topic of discussion.

If you team plays pants, its a topic of discussion.

If a player is Man of the match, it's a topic of discussion.

If a player plays bad, it's a topic of discussion.

If Wenger's tac-tics are good, and we win, it's a topic of discussion.

If Wenger's tac-tics are poor, and we lose, it's a topic of discussion.

Can you see the common thread here?

Being Welsh, Ramsay is not going to be in the media spotlight as much as 'Jack the saviour of English football Wilshere'. This for me is the biggest problem, I think JW reads the press, buys into his own hype and thinks he's bigger/better than he really is.

I've made several posts about him recently and I'm confident (sadly) that I won't be looking at him in a years time and thinking I was wrong. He doesn't do enough on the pitch to make my starting 11, off the pitch he's a brat and he's injured far to often so I wouldn't be sad to see him depart the club.

@Sad_Face, Young English players with Jack's potential r few. Its only wise to keep hold of him plus he loves th club. Wit better leadership from other teammates he'll come good. Seeing Ramsey step up. He'll only have to follow. Injuries on th other hand is a problem. Only way to solve tht is buyin someone (wit a bit of experience preferably) he can compete wit. One can't have too much of quality.

Nam I'm all for keeping Jack and your right you can't have too much quality, but you can have too much praise.
Until this season no one was allowed to question Jack in any way or they got slaughtered, now he's treated the same as all the others its got to be good for him and us hopefully.
Jacks fell down and broke his crown its up to him what comes tumbling after

{Ed025's Note - love that last phrase G62, you may make an editor in the future with that sort of penmanship mate.. :)

Thanks Ed it gave me the idea for the post I just sent, thought we could have some fun with a few of them between us all

JW made his debut almost 6 years ago. In those 6 years he has not progressed at all. Held back by injuries and a bad attitude.

Compare his first 6 years to those of Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard or even Rooney and you'll see that JW cannot be considered world class.

Sorry Gunners but JW is a waster and I'd confidently bet that he does not fulfil his potential.

Also love th last phrase. Funny but true

@gunner62, he really needs tht book. Wil do him good. Ramsey really improved, had support from th manager & few fans. Rest critize him. Totally not th way to go about.

@dagenham gunner, yeah I see th thread, whn we lose we need to blame someone. No more backin th team & supportin th players when we lose. Its football, never too easy

Sorry but frank lampards first 6 years were poor, at west ham, with a belly as big a fat sams. he survived off his dads reputation and got his arse in gear and made himself better.

jack is similar except the praise he earned has been entirely his own

{Ed025's Note - thats a bit harsh on frank GI. he has been a top player for many a year mate, and deserves credit..

28 Apr 2014 06:25:10
Question. How many top strikers in the £30 million plus bracket do you think we would be able to secure for next season. This is not a question on who you would like! But a question on whether we could genuinely attract them to play for us. Before we actually go into the qualifiers for the CL.

If they were really keen on coming an extra game wouldn't worry them, we have never failed before so only a real pessimist would be put off and who would want some one who thought like that. So its not a problem either way

Goldie,

I agree with G62 mate.

I think our record over the years has proved our ability to get past the qualifier without too much problem.

28 Apr 2014 01:17:57
Ok, the keyword at the moment is 'parking the bus'.

Do we or don't we?

Is Mourinho a tactical genius or a footballing Satan?

Is win at all cost the way forward?

I watched the Liverpool/Chelsea game, as a neutral of course, and was bored to tears.

But, from Mourinho's point of view, job done and the title race has been blown wide open.

Funny enough, he has probably done Man City more of a favour than Chelsea.

Do we adopt these tac-tics? If we did at The Etihad, Anfield, Goodison Park and Stamford Bridge, we would be playing Newcastle tomorrow night with one hand on the League title.

Mourinho, hate him or hate him, has beaten Liverpool and Man City home and away this season, that's 12 points taken from their main rivals, add to that the 4 points against Arsenal, and I'm surprised they are not champions.

Their downfall? not parking the bus against the smaller teams, like Stoke, Palace, Sunderland, etc.

Do you park the bus and get a free-ride to 3 points or go gung-ho and get stuffed?

Allardyce does it at West Ham and gets booed by his own supporters, even if they win (against Hull).
Tony Pullis did it at Stoke for years (with his long ball tactics thrown in) and gets the sack.

Mourinho does it at Chelsea (with a much more expensive squad) and is heralded a tactical genius (myself included).

So, where do we stand on this?
Are these tactics killing the game?
Will stadiums start to empty or are we a 'It doesn't matter just as long as we win culture'?

PS, before you answer, have a good think.
If you are old enough to remember the George '1 nil to the Arsenal' Graham era, than think carefully before you post.

Over to you boys and girl and would be interesting to see what the Eds think.

I think it's something that if used occasionally like Mourinho this season away in big games is fine.
But where pulis and allardyce got it wrong was using it all the time.
And if everyone did it then football will not be the biggest sport world wide. People pay lots of money to watch football, especially for entertainment and this is backed by the fact that the most followed clubs world wide I.e. Barca, Madrid, arsenal, Manu, Liverpool, Milan, bayern all play attractive football.
And if I'm not mistaken didn't Mourinho get sacked by Chelsea because of the football he got his team playing?
This season I think Chelsea have played some very good football, so for this season he is a tactical genius especially yesterday's result.
But to do that on a regular basis week in week out, seriously who would watch that?

Hayes Groves Alison and Jenson and champions v Ozil Ramsey Ox Wilshere and 4th.
Personally I'd take 4th Rather than return to the 1nil boring boring Arsenal days.

Its about 38 games over a season to sit through and at the end of it the players and club get a trophy and millions of pounds as for the the fans? Surely entertainment and pride is their reward