Arsenal Banter Archive April 28 2015

 

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28 Apr 2015 23:22:02
Liverpool lost haha.

We are pretty much guaranteed a top 4 spot.

As long as we win FA Cup, I would consider that a successful season.

But, none the less, with the right investment, I expect more next season.

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29 Apr 2015 07:06:10
We will win the emirates cup I hope dags and beat villa

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29 Apr 2015 07:37:55
Ahh, the Emirates Cup.

Forgot about that :-)

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29 Apr 2015 08:05:00
Let's not forget the one they all want above all others the community Shield :-) mind you should we beat Villa the thought of kicking off next season with a game against chelsea and a chance to start next season by actually getting a win against a mourinho team would certainly set the mood for the season ahead that's for sure.

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29 Apr 2015 08:59:15
So you actually thought we wouldn't get in the top 4 sheesh.

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28 Apr 2015 23:10:22
One more win and CL football guaranteed.

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29 Apr 2015 00:00:39
Can't be bad G62.

Happy days mate.

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28 Apr 2015 20:21:55
Re earlier posts.

I'm not a massive fan of Jack Wilshere.

Bad first touch, which leads him into making reckless tackles, which again normally leads to him getting injured and a 3 month lay off.

On his day, which are sadly few and far between, he is a very good player, and more importantly, a valuable player that suits our style of play.

Would I sell him to City?
No.
Would I sell him abroad?
Yes, possibly.

That said, would I sell him and buy Spyder?
Hell yeah I would.

Do we miss him?
I don't think so.
We have enough cover in his position, which is a little vague.

Is he a AM?
Is he a DM?
Is he both?

As far as jack is concerned, there are more questions than answers.

Furthermore, we are now in a position where we don't have to sell.
We have built up a fantastic squad. Better than Chelsea's and on a par with City.

We have 2, sometimes 3 players for every position.

Sell him?
I'm really not sure.

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28 Apr 2015 21:12:20
it all depends on our targets, on the players we release and sell, at the end of the day to meet ffp we need to reduce wage bill, and we need to trim the squad to add better quality. so sell 3 buy 1 situation.

now le coq and ramsey for me are the starting position deep lying mid. if we do get a schneiderlin then depending on wenger we will have one of those partnering ramsey, and wilshere for me is effectively ramseys backup.

ox, sanchez, giroud and ozil make the rest of the frontline, with welbeck as the first sub off the bench. if we do keep walcott its a no brainer he adds depth but a 100k plus a week sub? rather get a place who can displace ox and give him competition.

i think the priority will be to sell poldi and evaluate any potential offers for campbell, wellington, miyachi, along with the players leaving and hopefully get a GK, DM and wing/forward to help us push for a title fight.

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28 Apr 2015 21:24:47
I am a fan but equally you can only go so far with certain players.

I ask are City or anyone else going to pay £30 million for an injury waiting to happen.

We don't ourselves really know the answer to that because but for McNair he may have got through the season injury free.

He has now had the last op relating to the old injury with removal of the pins.

So next season he will have to prove the injuries are behind him, he will have to return to the form that got him into our team and England's in the first place.

Beyond that will depend on those factors and whether he is still a vital part of our squad or moved on for a minimal fee to a lesser club.

I will be amazed if he goes anywhere this year.

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29 Apr 2015 06:53:17
I don't think we should sell him.this summer. We need squad depth and if we are letting flam and Diaby go, possibly arteta and rosicky then having jack in the squad is a good thing.

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29 Apr 2015 08:02:49
I've always said I'm not a fan and I'm really on the fence with him leaving. I swear we always go on a massively good run. Like now! And he is always getting injured just before. Is this a coincidence or do we just play better without him

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29 Apr 2015 13:58:08
Like Dags i am not really sure whether I want him to stay or go. I think Lakerville has it bang on, in that he is playing for the same position as Ramsey, and based on the last two seasons, he is way off displacing the Welsh wonder from the team. However, I also think its time we stopped selling players to rival premiership teams, and especially Man City. Its a bit like looking out your window and seeing your neighbor let his dog foul your front lawn. You might let the first go, but if it happens again you need to go out and make it stop. Its similar for Arsenal, in that in the last few years every time Man City comes knocking for our player, we oblige. We no longer need the money, so even if its out of virtual spite just to make a statement, it's time to say a big fat no to the likes of City the next time they come knocking, irrespective of how much they offer.

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28 Apr 2015 20:11:02
This will prob upset a few on this page but hey poo happens, if city offer 30m for a player who can't play more than 20 games a season then I would personally pack his bags myself and drive him to Manchester, I would bite there hands of for 30m for the new "diaby"

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28 Apr 2015 21:27:04
Talking of Diaby I noticed he didn't make the last U21 game and was not in the training pics before the Chelsea game.

I wonder if he's already left.

Pretty sure no one will get upset mate, it's all about opinions. :-)

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28 Apr 2015 21:29:59
Sell him, buy Schneiderlin?

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29 Apr 2015 06:55:31
We have to ask ourselves why he would be so valuable to city. Purely for the home grown quota, would he be their latest sinclair or do they see him having an impact on the first team.

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28 Apr 2015 10:46:27
Gents I know we all want additions and everyone has their favoured players but if we want to compete at the top getting rid of Wilshere and Walcott now makes no sense.

We have other areas we need to strengthen as well as replacing old for new in relation to Rosicky, Flamini and Arteta. Whilst Arteta may be here another season we still need upgrades elsewhere before we start jettisoning players that have shown they can play.

Yes the injury argument holds water but we cannot buy more Worldies as people put it but keep the likes of Diaby, Flamini, Arteta and Rosicky whilst letting those two go.

It doesn't make logical sense and who apart from Gnabry and Akpom have shown they are yet ready to step up and do both still maybe need a loan.

There is only so much we can do each window and if it was Higuian, Wanyama and an unlikely Cech that arrive in the summer and the four I mentioned left would people still want Walcott and Wilshere out the door?

Or would we be thinking now we look ready to go?

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28 Apr 2015 12:06:35
If that happened we would have two players of quality pretty much everywhere:

Cech - Ospina, Debuchy - Bellerin, Mert - Gabriel, Kos - Chambers, Monreal - Gibbs,
Wanyama - Le Coq, Ramsey - Wilshere, Cazorla - Ozil, Sanchez - Welbeck, Giroud - Higuian, Walcott - The Ox.

That's with youngsters like Gnabry, Zelalem, Crowley, Bielek and Akpom waiting in the wings.

That would not be standing still. Two other factors to keep in mind with Wilshere and Walcott is whether they want to go and if Wenger wants to sell.

If that's the case then few will have a problem with replacing them with the money we get but just don't see that happening.

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28 Apr 2015 12:33:55
If arteta signs a new deal it shows to me we will not win the league with Wenger

Time to be ruthless I'm afraid. With the defenders I still feel we need another centre back.

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28 Apr 2015 13:12:34
Very well put. Worth bearing in mind the homegrown element, especially if, as suggested, the summer additions were Cech, Wanyama and Higuain, none of whom are homegrown (unless I'm mistaken)

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28 Apr 2015 17:05:46
DG i think your very wrong here even if Arteta does sign a new deal he will not play week in week out. I see a new DM coming to compete with the Le- Coq, Flamini leaving, and Arteta providing us with a different style of play. I have no idea what you have against the guy he is one i would love in our coaching staff, as he is a person who thinks of the game in very detail.

Getting rid of Wilshire is plain stupid, Wallcott can leave on the other hand.

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28 Apr 2015 19:00:18
Derby what have you been smoking mate, Arteta staying will have Zero bearing on us winning another title under Wenger.

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28 Apr 2015 19:02:58
Hood he was signed at a time when we didn't compete. He isn't needed now. If he signs I don't see a DM coming in. I may be wrong tho. We signed arteta to replace cesc then realised he wasn't upto it so played him deep.

All I hear is arteta is good to luck upto. he's won naff all. We are not talking about viera

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28 Apr 2015 22:46:54
Red dog arteta takes up space plain and simple. Itl be like gerrard this year. Kept on for reasons that we don't need. Pointless. You follow me now?

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29 Apr 2015 06:50:39
No mate because Gerrard got way to much game time and Arteta won't. Follow me now? :-)

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29 Apr 2015 08:45:00
What on earth do people want rosicky out for? He should retire at arsenal. Weird.

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28 Apr 2015 08:11:27
Wilshere must not be sold. Injuries aside he was the best English midfielder for a time last season before that horror tackle. I've heard Ramsey, Giroud, Carzola, Ozil, Mertaesaker and Monreal all slated and shown the door by fair weather football manager playing fans. All of those players with a clear injury free run have proved themselves vitally important to our cause. With Arteta and Flamini and Diaby and maybe Rosicky moving on at the end of the season there is plenty of room for Jack to flourish and bring in a worldy and still reduce our wage bill. No more hysterical talk of our future captain leaving please.

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28 Apr 2015 08:54:15
I don't rate him as highly as others and I think the move away will do him good. New city new challange.

His goal record and assists is poor. He'll get injured again and I think zeralem will be a better player than jack.

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28 Apr 2015 09:41:07
Totally agree, keeping Jack is a no brainer with at least 4 other midfielders on the verge of leaving or retiring.

That still leaves ample room for the likes of Zelalem and Crowley in a couple of years time when they are ready.

Derby we don't need to sell City naff all, let them find their own new City.

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28 Apr 2015 09:42:53
Davros did you notice that donkey McNair crocked another player at the weekend. Best bit was it was fat boy Rooney. ;-)

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28 Apr 2015 09:59:30
this is where we need to be ruthless. walcott, wilshere. if they are not part of the plan, and if we can raise funds by selling these to buy a dybala, sterling, reus, isco. that is how we should go about.

players like sanchez and ozil won't wait around for 5 years with no trophies. they want to win, and the sooner we supplement the squad with similar calibre players the easier it will be for us to keep hold of such players.

we have to strengthen this summer, a GK,DM, and a winger/forward are 100% necessary. if that will be cech, schneiderlin and higuain, it will help us to contend for the title, but it won't take us far in the champions league.

when you look at bayern, madrid, psg, barcelona, and you see their firepower and the clinical aspect of it, you have to realise that currently at arsenal we do not possess such players and our clinical aspect has been suspect.

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28 Apr 2015 10:33:07
Lakerville the players you talk about bringing in can replace the likes of Arteta, Flamini, Rosicky and Diaby.

Keep Jack and Theo. that's how you build a proper squad with depth.

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28 Apr 2015 11:00:24
Iv seen zelalem play and for me he's as good as cesc was. I'd get him in for more games. So calm on the ball.

Wilshere city fans a speak too do not want him. His carear will always be a sick note.

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28 Apr 2015 13:27:08
red dog, we do not have the luxury to pay bench players 100k per week.

wilshere will not be sold, i do not see wenger selling him, especially as you said with rosicky and flamini departing and arteta nothing more than a mascot if at all. an addition of a DM would help add depth and add competition.

walcott is 50/50. we have sanchez, ox, welbeck and wengers pride and joy of playing ozil or ramsey on the wing, which he has done many times instead of walcott.

if walcott wants 100K plus a week and while he has tremendous pace and a hint of finish, he has been outshone by Ox, welbeck and even ramsey on that flank, Ox and sanchez combining well when played.

now i'm not entirely sure what plans are for this summer, but with a year to go on his contract, and considering he will never play down the middle, i can see walcott being sold.

where he ends up is anyones guess but with man city and liverpool the most likely suspects i assume for nothing less than what english players go for these days, premium money, i would gladly take a replacement who can not only add that dimension of pace but a better end product.

dybala seems unlikely now as Ed said, fekir is a strange one, but then again i do not watch ligue 1 to make any comment. but we need to add in that position to improve as our competitors surely will.

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28 Apr 2015 14:09:01
Keep jack and theo at least for another year get rid of Flamini,arteta,diaby,Rosicky along with podolski,myachi,jenkinson,Campbell,ws1 and mertesacker that's 10 players!! At least bring in 3 world class players

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28 Apr 2015 16:50:50
Maybe we didn't have that luxury before Lakerville but we are doing it now, there are plenty of players sat on benches on £100 thousand a week.

That's the nature of our league now, I'd like I said elsewhere would have no problem of either leaving if that's what they want but I'm not sure they will want to go and certain that Wenger will not want to let Wilshere go, Walcott is a different story and we do have ready made replacements, particularly the Ox who has bought into the new hard working attackers ala Sanchez.

At the end of the day money from sales of both would provide funds for suitable replacements if they do go.

I'm sure we'll end up with quality, just the who is the unknown.

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27 Apr 2015 23:32:51
Well done today to bournemouth, my girlfriend lives down there so we're looking forward to watching arsenal play down there next season :))

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28 Apr 2015 07:08:20
Their pitch looks like a carpet too. ;-)

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28 Apr 2015 08:23:16
Red, stop nicking my line's lol.

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28 Apr 2015 09:37:02
Sorry Dags, couldn't resist. ;-)

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27 Apr 2015 23:17:04
Sign Khedira or stick with Le Coq?

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28 Apr 2015 04:47:20
Room for both. especially if we can get 30 mil for Jack!

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28 Apr 2015 07:41:47
If its true city are going to offer 30 million we have to take that for a player with Jack's injury record and a,player who still has so much still to learn at 23, that's an offer we shouldn't refuse if true

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28 Apr 2015 08:16:20
We don't need the money G, we have 4 other central midfielders to go before Jack. Let City get their English quota from elseware. We are ahead of the game. Chelsea and City are both struggling to find quality and numbers England wise. Let's not help them and hinder ourselves. Jack Wilshere is the best English midfielder around. He will prove that and it has to be with us.

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28 Apr 2015 08:39:51
I think it's a big call to sell Jack- not only is he potentially a great player who is still very young and doesn't have a lot of mileage on the clock - he is also very Arsenal and us selling him may well appear a weakness as we don't need to sell him.
We have a lot of players who could be sold without making any difference to the squad strength and yet make way for a major signing or two.

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