Arsenal Banter Archive July 28 2013

28 Jul 2013 22:25:40
{Ed027's Note - New poll - do you think, had Wenger had the same players, and actually spent the same money, as Barcelona and Madrid have in the last 3 years, would he have won more? - Vote now!}

28 Jul 2013 21:40:46
I just posted a very interesting pic I found go to Arsenal sightings in a bit and see what you make of it.

Just passing it on

Also they need to be following you (for official accounts, or some private) for you to even direct message them

28 Jul 2013 22:45:42
confirmed fake for no little line above the a in 'fabregas', his official twitter has it
that's a cruel joke to play

If this were to be true, or remotely close to it, I don't think I'd be happier.
Seriously, Wenger could sign nobody else, turn up to my house, slap my nan and drink my beer.
I'd be like a squealing fan at a bloody Beiber concert!
And that's not an exaggeration.

In fact, to sweeten the deal, Arsene, if you ever see this, make this happen and I'll walk into the spurs club shop. My shoes and a home made arsenal banana hammock embroidered with the number 4.

A promise?
Yes.
A disturbing image?
Most definitely.

D

On Cesc's official account there is an accent above the 'a' in Fabregas. In your picture however there is not. This therefore leads me to the obvious conclusion that this message is not from the man himself.

I know what you're all thinking; "By gosh Ted you've done it again. How could we ever repay you. " For you fair maiden, this one is for free.

So yeah, I'm really bored.

I'll test this tomorrow.

28 Jul 2013 21:29:13
Not sure I see the value in sending Cambell to olympiacos.
- its one of the weakest leagues in Europe
- I can't see him playing ahead of mitroglu or saviola
.
If we wanted to give him game time and the oportunity to bang in a few goals then why not a dutch or Belgian or Portuguese team?

Hey ho. The way its looking I can only see him going the way of Vela anyway. Really have to question the logic in buying players it takes 2 years to get work permits for.

AG {Ed027's Note - Olympiakos can buy him after the loan, he is not in Wenger's plans (I know I liked him too) Sanogo and Akpom have basically given Joel the hump

Akpom looks the real deal

Joel is better than yaya and akpom. Akpom is another jet

28 Jul 2013 20:24:39
What happens also if no one takes Bendtner or Chamakh off us? They surely won't be in the PL squad would they?

Holmesy {Ed027's Note - If them & Park aren't sold and there is space in the squad, it would be stupid not to put them in, you never know what could happen injury wise. But I expect them to be playing for the reserves if we can't shift them

Loan deals for them. Unfortunately, Wenger's 'Socialist' wage policy, means that players such as these two are virtually unsaleable due to their excessive wage packets.

28 Jul 2013 19:55:07
That post about Suarez's actual contract from NI Gunner is the most plausible thing I have read anywhere all summer. I would love it if anybody could confirm how accurate it is because that answers so many questions.

- Why would a clause where a guy can go talk to other clubs but his club aren't obliged to sell, even exist? That doesn't benefit a player who wants a clause so he can get out and join a CL team. Everybody knows that when a player joins a club beneath their standing at that moment, there will be a clause that will give them a way out. How else would Liverpool have landed him?

- Secondly it explains why Wenger is happy to wait, as some are saying. I bet he is, knowing he's done his bit! There's your extra quid, I've met the clause, now you lot can hash it out. Suarez's head is turned by us, I have no doubts about that.

- It was reported weeks ago that due to our interest he would do a u-turn on his media comments. People can't hack his u-turn but this makes me think he might want us. Which makes me think that having done our bit, he is now trying to see it through?

- 2 weeks ago or so, information came out that if we met what I will call a 'speak clause' so you know what I'm referring to, then his agents would take legal advice to prevent Liverpool blocking a move. To me that sounded like a total waste of time because they didn't have a leg to stand on - if LFC aren't legally onliged to sell, and it's a 'speak clause', then why would they bother? But now, it makes complete sense.

-It's not that they wanted Liverpool to randomly not block a move for no reason even though we are £15m off their valuation. It makes total sense that it is a real release clause but they are bitching because we're not in the CL.

My thoughts on that are I believe this. I also find it a total insult that Liverpool would refute our position. Regardless of how next month's qualifier goes, we finished top 4, we're a CL side, and it's a CL fixture. So really they want to make a total mockery of that. I'd love to see things if our roles were reversed!

Their desperation to hang on to Suarez like this or hold out for a few more mil really is embarrassing.

But I can see this is just a delaying tactic, we won't buy him if we get knocked out in the qual and his price goes up.

Ah well, let's see what happens.

NI thanks for that post, made a lot of sense to me.

Cheers Metal.

Be interesting to see what happens now.

Alternatively Suarez was given a pay rise last year and the 40 million talk clause was included in his contract allowing Suarez to listen to offers but the clause does not require Liverpool to sell. Liverpool have a pretty astute legal team.

Suarez is using Arsenal to bring Real Madrid to the table. Suarez has no real interest in moving to the Emirates. He has two things in mind and they are money and playing in Spain.

John Henry will sell Suarez but it will be for the proper price. Not 40 million not 42 million not 44 million. 50 million for Arsenal less for Madrid.

Arsenal are in the wrong game here. If they get Suarez they will be paying top dollar for someone who will be gone after two seasons. If they don't get him many fans will feel let down again and the season will start on a sour note. Liverpool will get rid of a problem and will have money to strengthen.

What was a devastating blow to Liverpool a week ago has been turned into a positive position, No one wants to lose a great player but Suarez has too much baggage to make it worthwhile for the short time before Suarez heads off to Spain.

Tommy Gunn

Tommy- if we have him for a couple of seasons, so be it. As long as arsenal don't lose money.

Won't bore u too much, but arsenal are in a great position financially now and arsenal can enter a new era, provided wenger and co pull their finger out.

So signing suraez, even if it is for a few seasons and with his potential baggage, will signal a massive change in policy at arsenal.

It will be a statement which will not be lost on the footballing world. We can then add more top players, etc next season.

So perhaps we can use suarez, as much as he may want to use us, as you suggest.

Whilst RM pursue bale, they won't have the money to buy both and are actually looking to sell a few more players to rise money.

So for now, they are out of the running.

As always, we'll see what happens.

LG

Tommy gunn you love the word astute

Cork City Gooner, that was very astute of you to notice.

LG

Tommy I get what you're saying but does a clause like that sound normal to you? In any way? I've never ever heard of a clause like that in anyone's contract. Makes much more sense that it is a buy-out or release or whatever the f than a 'yeah sure, go discuss terms with another club, but we don't have to sell you clause' does it not?

28 Jul 2013 18:59:40
Arsenal never believed that Liverpool would accept their offer of £40m plus £1 otherwise, they would never had offered the extra quid, they would have just offered the £40m. The quid is to activate the clause in Suarez's contract (whatever it includes) to disgruntle the player, and make him push for a move. The confusion in the clause is working to Arsenal's advantage, as it is causing conflict between the two camps, Suarez and Liverpool. For now it is best to let it simmer and let the conflict ensue. As Arsenal knew this bid would not be accepted, they are surely going to make another offer. What the offer will be is unclear with Liverpool wanting £50m or more, but if Suarez openly states his desire to leave, I imagine a compromise could be agreed at around £45m, and with Cavani's comments on Suarez's desire to play Champions league and his body language during pre-season (similar to that of RVP) it looks almost certain he does want to leave. What could prevent this move from happening, other than Liverpool, is that it is currently unclear we will be Champions League as we are still yet to qualify (although fingers crossed, we probably will), the fact that we are yet to spend on any other players, and if Madrid or another club comes in and hijacks the move. But, with all things considered, I think this move seriously could happen.

As other transfers are concerned, as much as I would seriously love him to come to Arsenal as the prospect of him and Santi linking up is the stuff of dreams. Bernard is probably Porto bound, but we shall see, if we can stump up the cash he maybe ours, but Porto have money after their dealings with Monaco.

I imagine we are in the market for a CDM after reports on tv linking us with Kondogbia earlier in the month. Fellaini would be a dream, but with his clause expiring at the end of the month, I am not too sure, so Kondogbia probably is the likeliest if we do go in for a CDM.

Defence wise, it looks like Williams and Rami are the main targets. In my mind, Rami would be the most likely option, as he is slighlty cheaper at around 9 million Euros and would fit in with our French Contingent. Not to mention, he is a top class CB, but the likes of Man City and PSG could get in the way of any potential deal.

I also imagine, as in every year, a few surprise transfers will pop up that no one expects, but we shall see. let's hope we make some signings soon if we are to compete for trophies this season!

You don't understand the situation do some research into it and you will find out why Suarez and his agent are so adamant the 40m bid activates his release.

In his clause if Liverepool finish outside of the top 4 and don't make CL if a bid of 40m comes in they have to accept it.

Liverpool are arguing Arsenal are not in the CL yet due to our qualifiers it will go to a PL tribunal and Suarez's agent has called in lawyers.

If a bid of £40m is all it takes, then why add an extra pound? And that's what I am saying, the confusion between the camps is helping Arsenal, due to their different interpretations of the clause.

Because adding the extra pound obviously means there is NO confusion about whether the clause it met. It means they can't waste time saying 'actually you had to bid MORE than 40m'. That's basic stuff guys! We didn't bid an extra pound for nothing.

28 Jul 2013 18:40:41
What about?

Julio Cesar £3M, Adil Rami £8M, Kondogbia £12M, Suarez £45m

Total spend: £68M

This would be an ideal summer, I don't think we need Bernard with Gnabry and Miyaichi coming through I don't think forking out £22M would be necessary. And the new Barcelona manager has stated Cesc Fabregas won't be for sale at any price and Cesc at no one point has expressed a desire to leave the Catalan giants. What would you think about this Ed?

Lucas {Ed027's Note - i'd be very happy with that, I think we could contend with those signings

Contend with them?! After the last two months I'd be over the moon!

Rami is very slow and is a terrible fowler.

Kondogbia reportedly going Madrid.

Cesar
Fellaini/Fabregas
Suarez
Ginter

Dortmunds Gundagon has got a gentlemen's agreement to join Real Madrid in July 2014.

Kondogbia has no such agreement with Madrid. {Ed027's Note - can't believe that fella above said Rami is slow, what is Mertersacker then lol

Okay if not rami then:

Andrea Ranocchia
Hector Moreno
Mamadou Sakho (if comes available)
Matias Ginter
Douglas


Lucas

I support Freiburg in the bundesliga, and although I don't get to see as many of their games due to the television usualy only showing munich, dortmund and occasionally Schalke games, I've seen enough of Ginter. I can honestly say I don't see why a lot of people want him at our club. Clearly he is talented, but is he really the player we need? Interested in hearing your opinions? DIgunner

Of cause £10 mil is alot, would you just splash an extra 10mil of your money, you think as if there talking pounds here, that would buy another decent player

Imagine. That would be a quality summer fingers crossed we make signings in those positions.

Bournemouth Gooner

28 Jul 2013 18:14:11
Hey guys, I'm a regular reader on this page but first time posting here. I just want to know about your views on what is the best position for jack wilshere. for me he should be played as a box to box central midfielder with Arteta/Ramsey because of his work rate and passion to drive team forward. I hate to say this but he still lack that extra creativity in final third and he don't even take shots as Cazorla or rosicky do.
secondly, regarding our search for a striker, why don't we bid for Soldado, a proven goalscorer with good record, I don't think Suarez will come to arsenal though I would like to see him in an arsenal shirt. let's hope for the best in this remaining transfer window.

I'm not sure what I think his best position is but we're more effective when he's box to box because because then we can play Cazorla CAM.

Agree with both posts.

28 Jul 2013 17:44:10
My heart is tellin me somethin very selfish.
1. Activate Cesc release clause. Piss off Man United.
2. Buy Suarez. Piss off Liverpool.
And than start wondering
"OH DAMN, WE FORGOT A DM"
wit an addition of those two. I think we'll win somethin.
Nam-gooner

If we sign Suarez and Fabregas I wouldn't complain about not having bought a dm.

Cant believe we ain't got something lined up for a def midfielder, surely we wouldn't let coquelin go on loan iff we hadnt

Tell me about it. Bender? Knocked back. Fellaini? No bid made as of yet. Kondogbia? No way in the world is he even top 3 choice. Gustavo? Knocked back for now. Wanyama? Suddenly not good enough. Capoue? Same. Gonalons? We wouldn't offer what Lyon wanted to sell their captain.

'Keep the faith' - sorry, today my faith is having a day off. As soon as I read 'Wenger 19m euro Bender bid rejected' I knew it was same old. Then 'Wenger is deciding whether to meet Lyon's asking price of X for their captain' and it was game over.

I was so utterly convinced Gonalons was coming to us.

28 Jul 2013 17:35:53
I've read some posts now claiming Arsenal put in a bid for Lars Bender (Bayer Leverkusen).

Just to clear things up. He is not aware of any bid made by Arsenal. This is what he told a reliable German newspaper some weeks ago.

Just wanted to share this info with you fellow Gunners.

Stefan, I thought his own club came out and publicly declared they'd flat out rejected our 19m euro bid for him. Which I believe over some player saying he wasn't aware of a bid.

28 Jul 2013 19:16:52
Hi Stefen, I doubt his team would let him go because they have money from the Chelsea transfer. Do you think there is any chance we could get him and do you think we put a bid in for him. Km

28 Jul 2013 17:29:10
Arsenal will miss out on all 'BIG' targets, Wenger with a wad in the bank stalling over the likes of Cesar, Fellaini and Suarez. Let's be honest the Brazilian keeper is 1.5 million, why isn't he the in the bag? Fellaini has a clause in his contract until mid August, the clock is ticking and Suarez, can't you just see Real Madrid nipping in? I am not too sure what is going on with AW maybe his poker face will win him this particular game, I am not holding my breath. I wonder how many of the board are sat counting the money. {Ed027's Note - there is a 20k difference in wages with Cesar

ED- 20k Is nothing in the scheme of things, it will at least show intent and give us a very good keeper {Ed027's Note - on a 2 year deal, it's an extra 2m, money is money

£2million is naff all, we would be getting a proven international, look who we have just got rid of for much bigger wages, AA must have got board counting all his money. We would get 3 or 4 good years out of him. If the rest of the board are thinking that way over £2 million then Arsenal can forget challenging {Ed027's Note - it's simple Cesar wants his wage that he got at QPR, Arsenal don't

And it's simple, what we don't have to pay in fees can surely go towards his wages. There's Begovic for £15m at least who'd then want 60k+ or Cesar who's going to cost less than we get on one match day and we can't give him a year deal at 100k? Sorry but nobody is going to convince me that that's not embarrassing!

28 Jul 2013 16:53:19
All gone suspiciously quiet on the arsenal website.

Maybe because they are all on the plane flying back.

28 Jul 2013 16:12:59
Last season we made major changes to our first team squad and though we completed our 3 signings early international competition delayed them actually joining up with the squad. Add that to the sales of RVP and Song we changed half of the outfield team.

I think the early season results reflected this and left us too far adrift to have any realistic chance of challenging for the league. Our points per game average from the start of December was pretty healthy at 2. 22 and don't forget we had a torrid January when we lost Gibbs to injury.

I know that we do not look quite as stylish as we have done in the past but we seem to have found how to be effective.

I get just as excited as everyone else when we are rumoured to be signing lots of top top players-but realistically just one star signing would gel far quicker with the rest of the squad and take us closer to where we want to be. A great goalscorer always has the biggest impact-so I do hope a deal for Suarez comes off.
terry

28 Jul 2013 14:47:06



The Suarez situation (based on cross-referenced research from various sources).

Bear with me it's going to be a long one. Hopefully things will be clear. THIS IS JUST WHAT I TAKE FROM WHAT I'VE READ.

Anyway,

I gather that he has a complex contract clause:


If a bid over £40m is placed (by any team) he legally has to be given permission to speak to that club. This is where we are currently, with the £40m+£1. It seems that we've agreed terms in principle. 5 year deal worth £150'000/week.

The clause ALSO states that Liverpool MUST accept any bid over the £40m from a (UCL team).


This is where the wrangle is. Liverpool believe that, since we haven't qualified yet we aren't in the UCL, therefore don't feel obligated to accept the bid.

Suarez, and his representatives are perplexed as to why the offer (£40m+£1) was rejected.

This may go to arbitration, where a committee would decide on whether or not Arsenal are 'technically' a UCL team.


Possible benefits for Arsenal:

The committee decide that we are 'technically' a UCL team and Liverpool have no choice but to accept and the deal is done, hopefully before the Emirates Cup.


Possible drawbacks for Arsenal:

The committee decide we are not 'technically' a UCL team. Puts Liverpool in the position of power. We could be patient. Waiting until we 'officially' qualify as a UCL team, which is risky as it gives other teams loads of time to swoop or we could offer a little more to push the deal through now (rumoured we are going to offer £42.5m+add-ons) in the hope that Liverpool say "okay" knowing they'll have more time to replace Suarez with the £2.5m extra as a bonus. Problem is, they want A LOT extra, the quoted £55m.


So, to summarise. It's a gamble.

a) Play the waiting game (if committee decide against us) and qualify first. Leaves lots of time for someone else to steal him (Madrid).

or

b) Offer a bit more (before going to arbitration), and give Liverpool no choice but to accept now, rather than waiting.

or

c) The committee decides in our favor and we sign Suarez for the hilarious sum of £40m+£1. All ready for the start of the season.



Like I said, this is just what I GATHER from reading various blogs, articles etc. Seems to be the general consensus.


PS. Personally, the way I see it we are in the UCL. I mean, when we play the qualifier it'll be the UCL theme that plays. From my POV we are a UCL team however I can see their logic too.

The thing is as well, that if in our last game (v Bayern), one of our players had got a yellow or red card that could make him miss the next match, that match would be the 1st leg qualifier and not the actual group game. Also, we are a seeded team and if we did go through, we would be in the first pot of teams (Madrid, Barca, Bayern, etc) so I believe we are in the UCL as the actual competition would begin when the small teams would face off up to the point where they could face a seeded or unseeded team (to get into group stages) and then obviously comes group stages and knockout ties.

Don't worry none of this will come to pass when Real give up on Bale and turn to Suarez. Liverpool just need to wait.

28 Jul 2013 17:36:05
I think you have this spot on. it fits in with Wengers recent comment stating transfers are now In our hands. not financially like most people seem to think, but a reference that qualifying is very much in our own hands. I really think this is the most insiteful comment posted on here for very long time, how else would we know to bid over 40m which we did by a pound. A lot if players/ agents want a UCL clause because it sites ambition rather than money which is rubbish to be honest. It's now down to option if we are deemed to be in the UCL. If Arsenal were made aware of the 40m clause then they certainly will be aware of a Champions league clause. Liverpool need to show face to their supporters by claiming that that he will go under their terms (50m) I think this one might need to go to the lawyers or a Uefa, fa or premiership committee. if its in black and white then the worse case senario is we might have to wait until the qualifying games which is not ideal. On the other hand I might be completely wrong. Well done NI gooner. km

Sounds like he needs an arm and a leg to get him!

Why are you so excited at the prospect of Suarez joining Arsenal? If he does, he will be unable to start the season and when he does he will cause huge damage to your club. The UK media will hound him even more and he WILL react. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

That isn't part of the clause.

28 Jul 2013 14:05:49
Why do United fans think they're irresistible to players. Nearly everyone remotely associated with Fabregas has said he is going nowhere, but one 'story' in a dodgy newspaper and he is 100% joining them.

They also can't seem to grasp why Fabregas would choose us instead of them. It's something called respect and loyalty.

Fabregas even said earlier this year that he is not joining them: "All rumours linking me with Man United are false, I will not join Man United. "

Does anyone actually look at statistics? If they did, they would know that Fabregas played more games this season than anyone except from Messi, Xavi and Iniesta for Barca.

He plays for Barca so he won't move for trophies. And I highly doubt he is interested in money.

We also have a buyout clause of 40m euros and some first refusal clause that no-one seems to understand including me.

Okay rant over. Now cue the United fans saying stuff like; "We're a bigger club, " or even "Why would he go back to Arsenal? He wants to win trophies. "

Red nose can't save you now.

28 Jul 2013 21:39:30
or no replies at all because they don't come on here {Ed027's Note - yeah ok

28 Jul 2013 13:23:40
Not said much for a while was just waiting for wenger to do what he always does and say were not signing anyone. I think suarez will come for about 43-47m and maybe a couple of players from way left field who have flown under the radar

28 Jul 2013 12:12:27
ed, are arsenal in negotiations with luis suarez about personal terms? {Ed027's Note - they must be getting up to something!

28 Jul 2013 11:52:42
Joel Campbell agrees loan move to Olympiakos.

28 Jul 2013 10:55:59
Hi Ed

is it true that Fabregas has accepted to go to MUFC? daily star reports a secret meeting between Ed woodward and Fabregas agent was held and Fabregas want's to come back to England with MUFC being preferred destination. somehow I think this to be rumour spread by MUFC to unsettle him and make sure they make him believe that he is required desperately at MUFC. I may be wrong regarding this. please let us know? if that is true it is bad for us. somehow Fabregas agent saying his preferred destination is MUFC in England makes me believe it is a rumour. If he want's to leave AW should activate the clause. he will cost us almost nothing, as Barca owns us money of Fabregas and song. ed please clear this smoke! (hope it is smoke)

Fabregas - come to gunners your first home.


guns gooners. {Ed027's Note - it's bs always has been

28 Jul 2013 09:29:20
Just wondering what AW, s reaction would be if Cesc said to him let the first refusal go because I want to go to the Mancs. Also do you think that since there is no Fergie at the helm and focal point that Uniteds pulling power has decreased. A couple of questions for the Eds, do you think that the reason we did not bid 30mill for Higuain is because AW knew Real would accept and he would have to go thru with the deal. Also do you think the 40mill+£1 bid for Suarez was stupid or clever.
Thanks for the site Ed {Ed027's Note - we don't bid for players knowing we won't get them

28 Jul 2013 13:01:00
Hi,

I'd like to hear your opinions on Madrid's actual interest in Suarez.
How much would they be willing to bid, in case they don't land Bale. And furthermore, who would be our alternatives to Suarez, in case of Real going all in on him.

overmars'11

I don't have a proper reply to this, only Madrid officials would. However I do like your username, always used to get that on the back of my shirts

28 Jul 2013 10:14:09
I am almost convinced we will not sign anyone.

Think the LS bid is a smoke screen to be able to say, we tried but no other club was willing to play ball.

AW said he is happy with the squad and its good enough to challenge for the league.

I am not a defeatist or anything but history is not on our side.

Players we are interested in have come and gone and been signed by other clubs but still no movement in any players coming to us.

Please don't rip into me, just an honest opinion from a long suffering fan.

Please be honest and let me know if others are thinking the same.

28 Jul 2013 12:57:20
I have heard that expression, smoke screen, so many times and understand it's meaning but can you or anyone else give me examples of when this has actually been used by clubs in any transfer dealings?

I just don't recall any manager etc saying geez that was some smoke screen we laid down when be bid for A but actually wanted B or just no one at all.

Deep down I share your fears. But surely, arsenal cannot not sign anyone?

It would be PR suicide for arsenal - the fans would never trust the club again. It would be the last straw.

Frankly, they would be using the "70mil war chest" to rebuild the emirates after the fans have burnt down the stadium! So either way it will get spent! (I'm joking ofc).

LG

You are among friends Funkey Monkey.
We are being duped by a cynical Board and Manager. Just examine AW's last interview. He thinks the current squad can catch up 20 points over last season? He's smoking something!
Depressed Goldie.

Will we sign anyone?
Yes, we already signed Crowley and Sanogo, WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!

But seriously, yes, we will, I'm almost certain of at LEAST 2 players.
There's still a month of window left.

However, will it be the big names we crave, or the players we need?
Ask me around half way through August.

We've missed out on a top striker, and we've missed out on a top DM, both to clubs lower than us in standing (Napoli, not much so, but still lower)
We're also going to miss out on Capoue it seems, who I think would of helped us.
That leaves only a few players I feel would REALLY improve us, and be realistic, Bender, Fellaini, Walter Gargano, Gary Medel would help as DM goes.
Suarez, Damiao, Lewandowski, Matri for striker.
How many of those are truly realistic, and not just in my head, and how many we are even remotely interested in, is a different game.

I've lost all my confidence in this window, mainly as precaution for disappointment, hopefully, I'll be made to eat my words when Suarez, Bender, Cesc and Hummels all sign next week.

D

Get it but just because we haven't signed anyone doesn't mean we won't. The fact that we have bid over 40m is not a smokescreen, it's a huge sign of intent!

We will see a huge exscalation of our spending this term.

Im with you matey. Its sad to think the arrogance of Arsene believes we could challenge for title means no significant signings

Baysie Gooner

I agree mate, our squad is not strong enough to compete for silverware and the lack of realistic quality transfer activity is worrying. Luis won't sign so I'm not counting that as realistic.

With that being said, I don't think we are far off either. A few quality signings and we are up there.

Nick.

Clubs don't work like that mate

Paul

If people are being honest with themselves, your post basically sums everything up. People have hope, but if you base your predictions on Arsenals history in the transfer markets, we have no reason to believe we will make any big signings. All we can do is hope that this year is different.

Suarez is not a smoke screen that's silly, but I think a lot of us are starting to wonder if we'll sign anyone. I would guess it will be Ashley Williams and Cesar, nothing in the way of a striker. We should have pushed Higuain IMO.

28 Jul 2013 08:55:53
so it looks likely Bernard is of to porto, cesc won't be leaving barca, I really can't see the suarez deal happerning and the ceser and Kondogbia deals look dead. what a great summer for us!

We will sign some class players, just be patient. Why would we clear all those players, just to sign no one, thus only weakening our squad. I don't believe Wenger can be that ignorant. I have no idea who we will sign, but there will be signings to strengthen ou squad. I am waiting patiently. DIgunner

But as in previous years all the kids are 1 year older now and the talent we have at our disposal should come to fruition next season.

Heard it all before

28 Jul 2013 08:03:10
We should've bid £40m + £1 + Bendtner i. e. £40m + £2

I Thought the one pound was for downing

Lakerville

I would rather have £40m + £1

KopHero

28 Jul 2013 00:19:27
Beyond all the hoopla around suarez, somehow we have neglected the other areas. Not having a striker to start the season is fine by me. but not signing anyone else is just downright ignorant.

Fellani = 22 mill - we want to pay 15 i'm guessing.
We ain't getting lars bender, we ain't getting bernard.
we will get suarez, depending on our qualification for the champions league, 2 days before the window closes. in that time, Madrid may fail with bale and then come our way. So worst case scenario is actually what wenger has already stated recently.

Why is it always us in this situation is beyond me.

Jovetic was not worth 23 mill, higuain was not worth 32 mill, i'm guessing suarez is not worth 50 mill, so in the end we have a valuation and then the selling club have theirs. not saying to buy them for any price, but we baulk before thinking.

for me higuain would have been ideal, only because right now 32 mill is good enough, when players like andy caroll went for 35 mill.

and the market is just getting crazier, as everybody has money.

I know this has been repeated to death but, Manchester United have not given up on cesc, even after barca have stated they will reject a 3rd bid.

Darren Dein has already had multiple conversations with Ed woodward, and he is encouraging them to keep bidding, I just hope we step in when we need to and claim what is ours, but going by how we have fared soo far, it can only go one way. (im not saying which way)

Im just going to get behind the team and support it. i'm just hoping that when we loose games, it hurts Wengers pride more than mine.

He had the choice to do something, and he ended up shifting his basket day after day, and we could end up with nothing. so Over to you wenger.

Im not one for booing. although I don't agree with many things lately. but sad to see the way things will go for him, as we all are thinking the same thing.

Why our fans think they know everything and can predict the future is beyond me. Give it a rest for Christ's sake.

Hold on Ted. You sound like one of the "oldies" I sit with in the Family Enclosure. Cheer everything and accept no criticism of Wenger.
They loved Santos and Geronimo for heavens sake!
Ted, I'm sure you're a true supporter as well as me, but take the "future" from 2005, and yes, we've got the best stadium, but where is the success on the pitch? Other supporters are entitled to criticize and show their feelings.
We were 20 points behind the Mancs for Ch. s sake! Was that good enough? Wenger is running the team as a private venture! Fans not included.

We triggered his release clause but he wants 100k pw and Cesar is on 90k pw why they aren't yet signed deals are in place for them too.

Suarez/Rooney
Fabregas
Cesar

Will all sign

28 Jul 2013 12:57:23
you hope we loose some games?

dubz