Arsenal Banter Archive July 28 2016

28 Jul 2016 20:59:31
I see mustafi is 6.0ft
BFG aside, we do seem to go for less commanding defenders in terms of height.
Is mustafi any good?

28 Jul 2016 21:28:52
Mustafi is very good in my opinion. Don't worry about his height, he's more than capable in the air and I'd even go as far as saying he represents more of an aerial threat from set pieces than Per does.

28 Jul 2016 22:05:59
Sforza, mert does represent amy aerial threat. Mustafi is a strange one, got bombed out of everton, not good enough but he's a german internationa, so mudt be reasonable, you would think.

28 Jul 2016 22:22:10
Just been reading how pep liked to use CMF player's as CBs at both Bayern and Barcelona on order to play the ball to strikers rather than just hoof it up field to have it come straight back at you.
Maybe Le Coq at CB has legs after all.

29 Jul 2016 09:09:52
Mert is tall but can't jump.

29 Jul 2016 10:57:43
He Can't Jump, Run, Tackle or turn, he does read the game well though.

28 Jul 2016 17:06:49
So if we don't sign another player and loose to 'Pool on the first day does Arsene loose the support of us all?

28 Jul 2016 17:13:11
For me no. He has my full support and backing for this season. He won't be going anywhere this season so I'd like to get behind him. That being said I can see and understand more everyone's lack of support by the day.

28 Jul 2016 18:26:35
Me too it's the only sensible approach D16.

28 Jul 2016 18:54:26
Nope. For all he's done, (Invincibles, top 4 finishes for the last 20 years, kept us richer and more consistent than most would be after such a stadium migration) even if he had a terrible last season, he atleast deserves to not get an angry 'good riddance' type send off.

28 Jul 2016 22:57:47
Thing with Arsene. And I'm saying this as how I think it is seeing as I'm not one who wants him gone. But the ones that do still respect what he has done but have gotten fed up of the constant letting us down and not moving with the times. I still believe and think he can do it, but I see why others done. Anyway come the day he does say I'm off. I really hope all those people that have lost faith and want him gone will push all that aside and stand up and applaud that man for what he has done. Regardless of the last 10 years he really has changed our club and to be fair our league for the better.

28 Jul 2016 23:31:31
ThePerfectGoal, why do you mention the fact he's kept us richer?
Does it bother you or affect you in any way?
I only ask as for all intents and purposes it really doesn't matter how rich he made the club, you and I haven't benefited from it in any shape or form.

28 Jul 2016 23:47:01
JPSSGooner, try being a Portsmouth/ Blackpool/ Leeds fan and see if you're not bothered then.

28 Jul 2016 23:48:19
Of course it affects us fans if we want to be able to buy big names etc. The problem now isn't that we haven't got the money, we have plenty of money for which i am grateful for - the frustration is we don't seem to want to spend it!

28 Jul 2016 23:47:49
I want Wenger to sign a new deal what he's done for this club no other manger could have done.

29 Jul 2016 00:18:20
Pfg and crybaby, you are plants aren't you. i'm sure you are not real. Lol.

29 Jul 2016 00:24:48
That's my point though tpg, it doesn't matter how rich we are, we were made promises about how strong we would be financially, yet we act like paupers.
The finances in the background make no difference to the fans if Wenger is to stubborn to spend the money we have.

29 Jul 2016 13:28:33
Yeah I can agree with you there it doesn't seem to affect us if wenger is being so stubborn but generally speaking, of course finances affect us fans.

28 Jul 2016 15:38:55
Anyone interested in a friendly wager?

Mustafi signs for Dortmund,
Arsenal loan subotic.

28 Jul 2016 16:00:48
Correction!

After much research based on the logic "Who is the current Sebastian Squillaci", I have arrived at one logical conclusion:

Adil Rami!

1. French
2. Cheap
3. Injury Prone
4. Mistake Prone
5. Past his expiry date

I guarantee this is who we sign!

28 Jul 2016 16:05:47
You forgot the third leg of that wager.
Subotic gets injured stubbing and breaking his toes when in dressing room as all the light bulbs have been removed. Cost efficiency, we can't compete with the big clubs.

28 Jul 2016 16:40:58
how about ricardo carvalho anyone lol.

28 Jul 2016 17:02:47
Wanted Rami about 6 years ago, he never fulfilled his full potential I feel.

28 Jul 2016 18:22:24
You're all forgetting a certain Thomas Vermaelen.

Surplus to requirements at barca, knows the club, plenty of experience, would cost a minimal fee.

28 Jul 2016 19:43:43
The treatment table is ready.

28 Jul 2016 23:34:42
Yes Vermaelen still has his name etched in to the wall in his treatment cubicle.

28 Jul 2016 13:55:35
Jeff Reine-Adelaide has been officially promoted to the first team.

Nice to see him getting a go, but I'd say that's the nail in the Mahrez coffin.

28 Jul 2016 14:50:50
We don't have space for Mahrez unless we were to sell a winger or 2. We've currently got Alexis, Iwobi, Ox, Walcot, Gnabry, Joel and JFA. There's also the possibility Ozil plays wide with Ramsey through the middle this season.

28 Jul 2016 15:40:21
I think we should send Gnabry to Germany (part of Draxler deal! )

Ah. wishful advice on deaf ears, that;'s when you know you are a true football fan.

28 Jul 2016 17:00:30
Gnabry looked good at one point but after the injury he has been in the shadows! He couldn't even get on the bench at west brom. What sort of discount do you think we would get against draxler for him? Dortmund might want a ball boy and offer to pay for draxlers plane ticket.

28 Jul 2016 10:06:27
Yet again we go into a season with long term injuries to players. What continues to concern me is that Welbeck and Mertseacker came back from injury, only to suffer long term injury. A friend of mine, a Doctor, believes the players are not conditioned properly. We also go into a tricky start to the season without; Koscielny, Ramsey, Giroud and Sanchez. We desperate need a striker and a centre back, with less than 3 weeks to go before the season starts. We must sign these two players this week, so at least they have two weeks to bed in.

28 Jul 2016 10:35:11
We went into last season knowing Danny was long term injured without signing cover, this season will show if we learned from that.
If and when kos and Ollys are out it highlights just how low we are on quality options.
A very good CB and striker would make such a big difference to the squad credibility.

28 Jul 2016 13:00:37
Agreed 62, unfortunately Wenger has been showing the classic signs of madness for years (do the same thing expecting a different result) so I don't hold out much hope.

28 Jul 2016 01:01:32
Just wondering why everyone is going mad, bar United who really has done very good business this window? Maybe I'm missing something but Liverpool have bought several as always how good they are remains to be seen. Chelsea have bought a young Belgian striker arguably not as good as Lukaku who they sold . Spurs haven't exactly been extremely busy? Sometimes you have to remember this isn't Fifa, players have break through seasons and grow as talents. Signing x x and x for this much is going to be know guarantee, quite frankly none of us could do as good a job as wenger and okay it may be frustrating that we don't get these players but your an arsenal fan and I remember when the game was more about buying this this n this player and being jealous of other clubs spending massive amounts. If you look over the years at how many big money flop signings there has been it's ridiculous. There's no guarantee these players will a fit in or b work in our system. Proven at one club doesn't necessarily mean the same at another. All I'm saying is if we don't get the big names we want don't be all doom and gloom. I don't judge who we sign or who we don't sign until I see the team on the pitch. It's a team game.

28 Jul 2016 07:43:19
Chelsea also signed the prem's best midfielder last season and are about to sign a powerhouse centre back- if you forgot.

28 Jul 2016 10:08:36
We have an excellent squad, when fit, but we all know that we need a striker and a CB before the season starts. In the first matches, we could have Gabriel and Chambers at CB and Akpom up front. That's very worrying.
By the time the summer absentees return and we sign players, we could already be playing catch up.

28 Jul 2016 10:36:37
Exactly right RG! Every single point is vital and I can see us being out of it by the end of August. We'll then slowly catch up, finish fourth and deem it a success.

28 Jul 2016 10:56:47
Gibbs and Jenks are good cover at FB as few teams can bring in like for like in every position, mf is more than covered several times over, is Gabriel good enough or is he the best of a slightly less than good enough bunch? Is Olly good on his own? And should Aaron play on the right just so we can squeeze in all our cmf player's somewhere?

28 Jul 2016 12:37:18
If we buy a Cb and a ST who isn't 30mil + there will be definite groans. Whoever we buy don't judge til they play . Enjoy the ride.

28 Jul 2016 12:50:54
Payet: £10.7 mill
Mahrez: £400K
Kante: 5.6 million

Bet if this was our transfer dealings before these players had a good season, This page would have been calling for Wengers head.

28 Jul 2016 13:14:31
Xhaka, apart from Payet (I wanted him at Arsenal since he was at Lille and always thought he'd end up here) you're absolutely right, we, myself included would of be very critical.

And who knows, Asano could end up being the next Luis Suarez.
Holding could become the English Maldini.

But we really cannot afford to bank on 'could be'
Because if in 2-3 years when they become world class players, we've already lost Özil, Sanchez, Santi, Bellerin and others through various means.
So now we've finally got our great striker and centre half we needed, we've not got to go find a winger, a centre mid, right back and more.

There are never any guaranteed successes in football (apart from Liege's Isaac Success. ill get my coat) we could sign Messi tomorrow and he might not hack it in the prem.
Or we could sign a 16 year old left back and he could win the balon d'or next year, you cannot be sure a player will succeed.

What you be sure of, is a signing like Lacazette, like Mahrez, like (to a lesser extent) Mustafi, will get fans excited, it'll get people behind the club, it'll get players excited.
I don't think people realise how much a new signing boosts morale.
Look at all the players that were talking about how much Özil and Sanchez lifted them in training.
I mean, sure, if we sign Lacazette, you've got Giroud worried for his place and you've got Akpom and super Yaya annoyed at less playing time, but the majority of the squad will be hyped.
A new player, potentially record signing, great goal scoring record, a new dimension to the team.
It lifts people.

Signing some unknown, who might be great, won't have that effect.

28 Jul 2016 13:45:09
All hyperthetical XXC. You will never know.

But this new Stella signing is going to be I bet lol.

28 Jul 2016 14:26:29
Its coming I can promise you that.

28 Jul 2016 14:26:29
Its coming I can promise you that.

28 Jul 2016 16:55:02
CFC, if Kante was the best midfielder- why did the players vote Mahrez as the best player in the league last season?

And i get your point DoLal but it isn't just that we aren't making big signings, we are hardly making any signings for the first team full stop.