Arsenal Banter Archive October 28 2015

28 Oct 2015 22:22:45
what about belerin right wing. play debuc right back for next couple of games. belerin could track back and get forward with his engine. pity jenko was away on loan. i know chambers can play right back. but see him as a centre half. but needs a season on loan.

28 Oct 2015 22:51:03
I think we should keep it simple.
No point shuffling the pack because we don't have a RW.

Our back 4, Bellerin, Monreal, Kos and Per/Gabs have been terrific this season, let's keep them together.

Just stick Joel Campbell on wing, he needs game time, or play Sanchez RW, Ozil LW and Giroud up front.

28 Oct 2015 18:21:00
Just my thoughts on last nights loss and the dreaded injuries.

The loss is of zero concern the injuries however could be. On the plus side neither player pulled up like Ramsey did so hopefully at most a miss for the Swansea game and maybe Munich. Right now I'd take two draws but expect more at the Liberty.

The part most are missing though is the needed rest of the back bone of our team, Koscielny, Cazorla, Coquelin, Ozil and Sanchez. Let's not forget, albeit as a CB, an ageing John Terry did not miss a singe game last season when they won the title.

Yes we are short for a period but defensively we still remain solid and losses are what we need to avoid most. With Sanchez, Cazorla and Ozil we are always capable of conjuring up a goal.

This far into the season it is now pointless pointing the finger of blame we need to get on with it.

Wenger is unlikely to start playing defenders wide right and Campbell will no doubt fill in. Our big loss is the variation Walcott offers and pretty much zero on the bench to change a game. So get a lead and close it out.

At 17 I do not expect Adelaide to become a knight in shining armour and save us from oblivion when he returns next month. He may have a part to play but let's not heap massive expectations on his shoulders.

So it's going to get tougher and we really are going to see what this side is made of but like I said before, we just need to be there or there abouts going into January.

28 Oct 2015 19:50:40
Good post Red particularly the lkast paragraph.

28 Oct 2015 16:54:35
Hi eds, can Arsenal recall Gnabry? . Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - There may be a way to cancel it.}

28 Oct 2015 19:44:24
Hope they do, needed player right now. Thank again ed.

28 Oct 2015 23:47:55
Pulis doesn't rate him. Probably because he's under 6foot and has skills. Strange loan. Could do more damage than good. Let's recsue serge asap.

28 Oct 2015 14:22:46
So what now?

Gibbs as a winger?

Joel Campbell should not start.

Flamini an injury risk.

Youth players "not ready"

Yet another, injury crisis.

28 Oct 2015 14:49:06
Gibbs was originally a winger in his youth days who was converted to a LB, from all I've ever seen of him he's much more suited to attacking than defending.

28 Oct 2015 15:33:47
There's a lot of clutching at straws today guys. All day people have been turning into mini managers with crackpot ideas of putting this player here and that player there. Look we have to temporarily cover right wing, I'm sure we have enough in the set up to do this without moving ozil or moving Sanchez or putting someone who's seen a couple of theirry Henry videos up front.

It really isn't the end of the world.

28 Oct 2015 15:38:28
Agree Growbun,
Flamini or Campbell out wide.

Not ideal, but problem solved.

28 Oct 2015 15:54:16
Gibbs or Campbell out wide for me.

28 Oct 2015 18:32:35
We have a few injuries and a squad light on quality cover 28 so people are discussing how we can best cope in their view, I don't see anything strange about that surely it's a big part of what this page is about people voicing their opinion.

28 Oct 2015 18:58:53
it's not the opinions that concerns me. It's the undercurrent of pessimism that gets me and the opinion seems to be that we are done for, as regards to people talking about positions it appears to me that people are clutching at straws and have desperate ideas that can pull us out of this unbelievable mess that Arsenal fc are in . According to some. Like I said it's chicken licking.

28 Oct 2015 19:09:06
And as regards to quality cover if you cast your mind back to the beginning of season when the let's kill wenger raised its head and people were saying (including me) where's the cover he needed to buy, then we settled down and then we were the best squad in the leauge and poster after poster started putting their starting 11 with the player to cover each position along side the starting player and all of a sudden people went 'wow look how strong we actually are we have a great player to cover each position ' so we have technically lost Ramsey cm (technically) then ox (rw) and now Walcott (cf apparently) and all of a sudden we are light in cover? Bloody hell a player from 3 positions and now we are thinner than Wayne Rooneys hair. Well in all reality we have a bit of a problem on the wing and when first choice goes down second choice plays (in theory) should we have each position stacked 3/4 players deep with premier leauge winning quality? It's going to happen look at city no augero no silva and they with all their billions look 'light' I'm just saying it really shouldn't be such a concerning issue have a little faith.

28 Oct 2015 20:49:56
Totally agree Growbun.
I posted similar yesterday.
It's not a crisis, so let's not make it one.

28 Oct 2015 20:53:05
It really isn't dags .

At Chelsea on the other hand.

28 Oct 2015 21:45:05
Gro not me I could see the squad was light. For me its not about the squad as much as wengers management skills or lack of lastt night risking the only two players left to cover that spot for a reserve cup.

28 Oct 2015 22:30:57
Yes Steve of course I knew it wasn't you! And yes I don't know why he didn't field a team full of reserves.

28 Oct 2015 12:43:31
incase you missed it. i want adelaide back so he can play :)

28 Oct 2015 16:03:28
Can't you give KDB a call and ask him if he wants a game? :-)

28 Oct 2015 10:56:55
What do you guys thinks of playing Bellerin at RM and Debuchy at the back. It won't change anything in the middle, Ozil can play where he plays and Cazorla as well, and also helps us defensively.

28 Oct 2015 11:26:36
bellerin seems to get faster the longer the run. id leave him right back. right mid you have to turn someitmes and beat a man. debuchy is done.

when is adelade back? him left sanchez right.

28 Oct 2015 11:56:26
Another option is Sanchez right Gibbs left of MF, Keiren is far better going forward than defending, we do have options but were going to need to be cute and use what we have well if we're going to stay in the title hunt over the season.
West Ham don't have the best players in the world but they've beaten us city and Chelsea by using what they do have very well.

28 Oct 2015 12:01:02
i see west ham being bought out soon. new stadium. big earner that someone will take the plunge.

28 Oct 2015 10:00:12
My point poorly made is, I'm not going to Munich with those players missing expecting to get anything. so i'm looking ahead .

If you are expecting something then you will be disappointed

Ramsey, Ox, and Theo potentially missing from the team that played at home, all three have pace and can damage .

we are weaker in the PL without them let alone the CL

You all know my thoughts. yes a great night against BM but we will not win the CL.

BUT we can win the PL this season if we keep injury free

I didn't suggest we lay down and die, if we were to do that god forbid the scoreline eh? lol.

28 Oct 2015 12:09:17
There was a select few that told us not to get our hopes up for the first game against Munich . Your stating the obvious feeling that people quietly have but also there is hope and that's the thing that can create excitement.

Here's one for you mate Bayern 70% possession Bayern 15 shots to our 1. Arsenal to win 1-0 . I don't think you need to be that strong shot of coffee in the morning Banbury we are all adults we will get through I'm sure.

28 Oct 2015 07:39:56
Some realism

'If' we don't have the Ox or Theo available for the Bayern game. write it off and give them the 3 points .

Move on to the Spuds game.

{Ed025's Note - thats not realism BG..thats defeatism mate..

28 Oct 2015 08:25:57
Unless, you are kidding, and there is always that chance - you are a joke of a supporter if you are recommending we lay down in a game for anybody. Ed 25 is being kind there but I can see why Ed 02 mocks this group,

28 Oct 2015 09:09:31
Mocks what group Rooster?

Nobody else would want us to simply 'give them the three points' I hope. We had a very weakened/experimental team last night and we didn't play well regardless of who was on the right. A lot of the players who will be facing Bayern weren't on the pitch last night so I really can't understand why you are being so defeatist.

I might even say that a good performance in Bayern will increase our performance and confidence going into the Sp*rs game.

28 Oct 2015 09:20:45
We are desperately short of quality in depth but we always knew that, Theo is aa big loss because he's been doing well up top and now we only have Olly with no options or cover for him the Ox is a cracking little player but hasn't been playing well so is not that bigger loss on current form.
With a reshuffle we can cope possiblly but its going to be difficult for sure, we were short of strength in depth before the window closed and if it costs us its not about bad luck with injuries its about poor decisions during the summer.

28 Oct 2015 09:22:51
He mock the soft supporters that don't stick with the team through thick and thin, I get his point sometimes. Btw BG is a top poster and no joke, just trying to rile him up a bit ;-) )

28 Oct 2015 10:06:26
I have supported us for 40 odd years and been there at the lowest times BUT i want the PL title and want nothing to stand in our way mate, that's all

No more injuries please.

28 Oct 2015 10:48:26
I think, on his day, he just mocks all supporters Rooster :)

Yeah agreed great poster, although this is a very poor post.

28 Oct 2015 03:50:55
Last night's result may prove a blessing in disguise. What concerns me is that we are now top of the 'physio' league with 8 players out injured, just as we go into the busy period in the run up to the new year.
At present, assuming none of the players on the injury list recover, we have only 16 first team players available. This hghlights the fact that more efforts should have been made to add at least two first team players to the squad last summer. In addition we have been without Arteta and Rosicky for most of the season to date. What possessed Wenger to extend Arteta's (in his 34th year) stay at the club, when he was out injured for much iof last season is beyond reason. As for Rosicky, in his 36th year it was time to let him go, never mind the woeful Flamini. We are now out of the Capital One Cup and on the brink of going out of the Champions League (unless we can get something in Munich) . We have to keep the remainder of squad fit and free from fatigue until the New Year when Wilshere and Welbeck return and we can sign a couple of players to supplement the squad. I can see the usual November and December collapse and the frnatic scramble to finish in the top four. It;s suh a shame as releasing the three players mentioned and signing 4 players would have bolstered the squad and given plenty of options gong into the end of year period. I would have looked at signing Tielemans (Anderlect) and Krychowiak (Seville) . Far better options than Flamini and Arteta.

28 Oct 2015 08:59:58
I wonder if wenger had done excaty what you said and we had signed those two players you mentioned and they were out injured for a while you would now be saying he should have signed 2 more or even kept arteta or flamini a extra back up.

this squad has been very good so far this season, and 8 player our in any squad in the prem is going to make a difference. City have 2 out and people are expecting them to struggle.

forget the league cup if this squad win against Swansea and get at least a draw against Munich then we are in a great situation.