Arsenal Banter Archive August 29 2015

29 Aug 2015 23:24:40
At our very best we could be in our on box defending - counter attack through Cole, Pires, Overmars, Freddie, Henry etc so fast that within 5 passes and within 30 seconds we would be charging upon goal with opposition defence not knowing what hit them.
Now it takes 90 passes and 10 minutes to get to their box - bring back our zip!

30 Aug 2015 08:21:21
To be fair Sy, you can't counter attack against a team that are camped in their own box. Against palace I thought we played some excellent counter attacking football. I would however confess that we did not cope all that well with being up against 10 men.

30 Aug 2015 09:08:19
UG, I am not just talking about this game but our overall philosophy. Quick passing going forward is difficult to defend against. If our build up play is slow, then there will always be 10 behind the ball. We avoid that with a faster attack but also have a tricky winger who can dribble if we need to break them down. Hazard does this well for Chelsea. Lastly, a striker who needs one chance to score.

30 Aug 2015 09:15:26
UG a valid first point and totally agree but what do you mean by cope?

30 Aug 2015 09:25:25
I mean we looked better against 11 than we did against 10. We didn't move the ball quick enough when they went down to 10. Just happy for the 3 points though, plenty more to come from us yet.

30 Aug 2015 09:38:27
I think Ubi means we didn't use our man advantage to the maximum and stretch Newcastle enough.
I agree SY we are way to precise and patient 95% of the time and there's deffinately a time to play long balls from the back to switch defence into attack quickly when a teams left them self's open, let's face it pre Le Coq it happened to us on a regular basis.

30 Aug 2015 09:38:45
BG - can you remember the way we used to attack? Don't you think we need to morph towards that....

30 Aug 2015 11:47:26
SY4 yep , spot on , but AW seems to have adopted the approach off 145 passes before we shot .

The trouble with yesterday was Newcastle didn't get forward enough to leave space behind then for us to move it quick enough

29 Aug 2015 22:36:30
Ok, a mixed start to the season.

4 games in, 2 wins, scored 3 and conceded 3.

But, 2 wins out of 2 away from home is nothing to be sniffed at and we were unlucky to have a goal disallowed against Liverpool.
(Jeez, how do West Ham put 3 past them at Anfield and we can't score 1 at Emirates).

City are on fire, but we are only 5 points behind (plus a big goal difference), so its not too bad.

Chelsea have lost 2 out of 4, which is almost unheard of.

We are not playing well, but are just bobbling along.

Could be better, but could be worse.

Two days of window remaining, let's hope AW pulls something out of the bag, even Charlie Austin.

29 Aug 2015 23:54:52
Well dags bad enuf wit one forward running with a parachute stuck to his back than having 2.splash the cash 💰 wenger

30 Aug 2015 08:26:27
Lol, I like that parachute comment.

Made me laugh :-)

29 Aug 2015 21:39:19
Correct me if I'm wrong, but where are the goals going to come from. We have played 4 prem league games and scored 1 goal and 2 own goals. If this team doesn't improve and Arsene doesn't sign a proven world class striker (if any available that is) then we are in big trouble. For me I would go all out and get Charlie Austin and take a gamble. He would probably jump at the chance of playing champions league football and give us the possibility of more goals. I know everyone will probably disagree but I just can't see us continuing to finish in the top 4 it's going to back fire one season If not this, maybe the next. Arsene, you need to take a long hard look and what everyone else sees.

30 Aug 2015 09:19:03
Are you forgetting we scored over 100 goals last season and that is exactly where AW thinks goals will come from.....I have to agree with him to some extent ( not getting into a striker debate ) but that is what AW will be thinking .

29 Aug 2015 20:42:15
In the absence of Arsene shocking the world by actually signing what we need I think sticking with Olly in every game is our best option and just accept he has to have a lot of attempt's before he actually scores.
His team play is excellent and he does cause the opposition to work much harder than Theo ever could and we do create more chances as a team with him on the pitch.

29 Aug 2015 21:38:41
Theo is just not a striker and he will never be. Giroud over theo every day of the week. Rather play sanchez up front if we want to stretch teams.

30 Aug 2015 08:08:17
Depends on the opposition. If a team is going to come onto us, like Newcastle did before Mitrovic went, it can be preferable to have Theo running in behind. And it worked yesterday. Let's not forget how little football Theo has played, if he wasn't rusty he would have had 2 goals in the opening stages.

29 Aug 2015 18:59:05
There is no way on earth that Ox can replace Ozil. I like Ox but he has a poor touch, plays the ball too far ahead of himself and offers not much more than pace and willingness to shoot. He needs time to improve but he is not the answer at the moment.

We missed Ozil and our attack despite the pace, we looked sluggish and toothless - we need some signings to get the team moving forward.

29 Aug 2015 20:21:34
I do agree, it was an irritating performance by the Ox because he had been so good before this and one of our only good performers so far, but that was a pretty tepid show from him.

However, I still think either he or walcott has to play on the wing for the future instead of ramsey, caz or ozil, but that was still an average performance. And to be fair to him, there were no real stand out performances for me. Le coq was solid again, and defence wasn't really troubled. Otherwise we look we are lacking that sharpness and obviously the need for a striker.

I would still put ox in my starting 11 and I would prefer to play Ozil but not sure who to replace out of Ram and Caz

29 Aug 2015 23:20:59
Both Theo and Ox need space to run intto rather than a clever dribbler - we need a clever pacey winger who can smash parked buses.

29 Aug 2015 23:42:48
Julian Draxler?

30 Aug 2015 09:29:26
He would work! He would strengthen the side and is available

29 Aug 2015 18:26:02
I think with wilshere,ox,Ramsey,carzola,Sanchez that can play in do hole we wudnt miss ozil.wenger won't drop him. He no good on the left wing....what if he not injuried his knee and we are going to use him as a makeweight in a serious transfer deal for a world-class striker.....i can only dream.i think higuin is a worldie compared to what we have.have nothing against ozil he is quality.but he doesn't track back and we have to many similar players

29 Aug 2015 20:33:50
To say I disagree would be an understatement today we saw just how toothless we are without the Oz. Ramsey is not having a good time at present he is wasting chances wasting possession and his product is really low. We had Newcastle sown up all day ...the back 4 and Coq n Santi ate them up and spat them out .... then Walnut/Ramsey/Ox just wasted all the possession with poor position , poor passing and poor finishing.

Mad to sell ozil to buy class - buy some more class alongside him.

29 Aug 2015 22:31:11
ozil or ramsey. rather have ramsey he gets stuck in,not afaid to shoot.tracks back and actually scores goals..can you say the same about ozil....i know he can pass, but if you play in the hole you have to score more and stop going missing in big games.he a bit timid too,, you pay 42m for a player i expect more.ramsey came a long way from broken leg to boo boy to one of first players on team sheet.has a gr8 engine,form is tempory....rambo will b back

29 Aug 2015 16:24:06
Palace also 1 up away at Chelsea , that could be another shock

29 Aug 2015 15:56:48
I thought we looked slow at times today, however at this stage I'm happy with the points. As for Ozil, he's a disgrace, doesn't track back, tackle or contribute anything to our team!

29 Aug 2015 16:18:43
Love the Ozil comment :)

29 Aug 2015 17:04:53
Disgrace is a bit harsh

29 Aug 2015 17:49:09
Not really. I don't think he even got a touch today . Shocking

29 Aug 2015 17:54:38
Imired,

I think Loony is being sarcastic :-)

29 Aug 2015 18:51:07
Ozil was lucky Theo was on the pitch to split the vote on the least effective player today. I now agree with Ian Wright moving Theo to the middle has been left to late in his career to do.

29 Aug 2015 19:53:29
So was i

29 Aug 2015 15:37:48
I'v converted back to religion JUST so i can pray that Dan Welbeck comes back super human.

We need goals, i no longer care what or who we buy aslong as he gets goals (uncle Drew's "buckets" voice).

29 Aug 2015 18:44:01
You never know

29 Aug 2015 15:10:02
Take threepoints.early in the season yet.when you play the top teams you only get a handful of chances.giroud and Walcott need 3 or 4 .zlachances and we still not guaranteed a goal.need lewandoski,higuin.benz.someone of that ilk

29 Aug 2015 15:30:07
higuin is not of that ilk

30 Aug 2015 01:05:31
Before he moved to Napoli, Higuain was keeping Benzema out of the starting lineup in Madrid.....

29 Aug 2015 14:43:55
Can't imagine how we are struggling against 10 men newcastle plagued with several yellow cards. It would have been a different story if it were 11 men.
Sharpness isn't there. I am not CONVINCED by arsenal. Period! Hope they find their form soon. I don't care whether they played away from home. In the end it's 11 against 11 anyway so they've got to perform otherwise say goodbye to the title.

29 Aug 2015 14:53:38
Puzzled by your comments????

Arsenal weren't struggling...................look at the stats , I think what you mean is why haven't we scored more?

It isn't easy when a team parks the bus , as we know.

Just need to move on and hope AW buys someone............personally I don't think he will , I think Wenger is more than happy with his attacking options

29 Aug 2015 14:58:22
To be fair we haven't become a bad side over one summer because we added a very top keeper, the west Ham result has knocked the confidence a lot and Sanchez looks like a man who is running on empty but still giving his all of course because he was rushed back to early as a panic move.
We eed a striker and should have had one a long long time ago.

{Ed025's Note - i agree G2..

29 Aug 2015 14:42:18
Against 10 man average team AFC looking shocking and he WENGER wanna win the league...? I'm sorry they've should hammered them down by 5....

29 Aug 2015 14:56:11
Have a look back in history.....how many times do a team go down to 10 men and lose 5-0?? Not often..............how many times do teams go down to 10 men and park the bus and very nearly get a result

29 Aug 2015 15:22:32
Mate we went down to 10 against chelsea ans ended up conceding 7

29 Aug 2015 15:32:45
Yes but hang on a minute

we went for all out attack , not once did we park the bus in that game , we attacked, hence the huge spaces left behind us.

In saying that , that is one game , as I said more often than not teams with 10 men do not get a hiding.............unless they are 4 or 5 down before having a man sent off oc course

29 Aug 2015 14:30:16
Immense pressure buy the boys but it's glaring, we need a striker with a killer instinct. Probably a two-shot one goal striker.
The league is really tough. We can't afford to miss huge chances. You won't have such enough chances in UCL

29 Aug 2015 14:34:18
Can't argue willy. Today has given me no more confidence

29 Aug 2015 14:44:08
4 games 3 goals and our top scorer is the opposition, I'd say that's pretty conclusive to all but the one man that matters.
Hey ho 7 points is a decent return from the last 3 games.

29 Aug 2015 13:48:46
The games set up for giroud now. Wil he bring him on

29 Aug 2015 14:04:38
Whey we have a shot it comes back to ox and then a deflection. It's not that hard to work out is it. If the area is packed low hard balls have a good chance of going in

29 Aug 2015 13:37:40
I'll take one nil.hopefully we can break them down in the 2nd half.theo not a centre forward.shud of buried that

29 Aug 2015 13:33:15
With Newcastle playing so deep the need to have pace upfront isn't so important .........Giroud will probably come on IMO.

Very difficult to play against 10 men .......in saying that a draw now would be a very poor result

29 Aug 2015 13:18:39
I think Theo is showing its not that easy to put the ball in the back of the net...........

29 Aug 2015 13:50:08
I think the whole team are mate, are only Sanchez and Ramsey allowed to shoot? The rest do know its not netball don't they

29 Aug 2015 14:24:37
I agree , so many of our players are shot shy its quite apparent that shooting from distance is something AW doesn't like

29 Aug 2015 12:45:50
Now we are talking!
Great modification. Nice team set up
Yaay!!! Couldn't be much happier

29 Aug 2015 12:29:26
Ozil has a knee injury then..........this season has seen the treatment table full and we aren't in September

Same old same old

29 Aug 2015 12:06:26
The ox replaces ozil. Could help the balance of our team. Hopefully cazorla will be num10. Walcott will be hungry too. And kos Gabriel partnership. Looks good to me.

29 Aug 2015 11:35:10
I just hate losing matches. But it's ok if we lose deservingly. Could bring out the best in us.
However, i won't accept either a draw or loss today. I want it all. 3 points
With pace, we can create more chances.
What kind of manager starts Ox, goes on to win the shield and then benches him when he is the best player by far, of the others

29 Aug 2015 09:48:52
With KOS and Mert doubtful I might change might prediction for today...................please allow me to see the team sheet before I confirm my thoughts.

29 Aug 2015 11:23:57
*the final score

29 Aug 2015 12:26:20
Looks like AW has heard the thoughts of this forum . All out pace by the looks .

Gab and Kos together ................where has Ozil gone.

A big change of hear from me , due to AW's change of heart.

1-3

29 Aug 2015 01:51:26
3 days to the transfer window.....its not looking good.if coqulain is our only holding mid we won't win nothing.he is class, i like him but the game he plays he will have suspensions or get injured.you won't win the league with ken from barbie....i mean arteta or flamini.they wouldn't get into a top 10 team.this is arsenal we shouldn't stand still.wenger will say the usual we are trying.welbeck, whishire and rosisky will b like new signings, we heard it all before with diaby, jack and theo when they were out.sorry for early season rant but if we don't kick on this season surely there no ambition from wenger or the board.cech is a class buy.utd signed cantona to kick on a maverick, strong, skillful, game changer.....ibrahimovic??? anybody

29 Aug 2015 10:16:12
It ain't looking good mate and no one is even suggesting we're anything like close to a signing but maybe just maybe we have an Ozil type surprise move in the pipeline.
Right I'm now off to the supermarket isle 19 section 5 middle shelf to top up on straws to clutch at :-)

29 Aug 2015 11:08:20
Is that's where the brandy is as we might all need a stiff one this afternoon.

28 Aug 2015 23:43:45
More smart business from juve.