Arsenal Banter Archive June 29 2017

 

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29 Jun 2017 21:00:56
I don't know another club our size that has so many high profile bids rejected! I think we are more famous for the players we "nearly signed" than those we signed in recent years for various reasons.

The likes of robinho, suarez, benzema, higuain, vardy. Its a tad embarassing and as of yet its still not been addressed. i know we got that contract guy recently but not the best of starts eh! Obviously the negotiating side needs more work. I don't remember transfers being so farcical when we had david dein.

Athletico have had a bid accepted for lacazette so people at the club that are paid to deal with such matters should know the asking price. We have so much to sort this summer we can't afford to faff about with transfer merry go rounds. Imo we don't need much just 1 or 2 and to keep the best players.

That defeat against liverpool at the start of last season ultimately cost us CL because our squad was not ready. Get the players in early and pay the money! We are the arsenal. we need to start acting like a massive club because we are one!

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29 Jun 2017 21:52:23
Early days but I have always said, top clubs target players they want and pay the going rate. We pay only what we think they are worth and if we fail we get the players we think are good value. Like you say I don't see what benefit we get put of it.

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30 Jun 2017 16:04:29
the defeat made us go and get mustafi so in the long run may of helped us.

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29 Jun 2017 20:47:16
62 - - sounds like your better half has been training Ivan. " we are not interested in depth but rather quality. " 😜

Good to know we are looking at upgrading the starting 11.rather than the squad.

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29 Jun 2017 22:43:04
Get the best players you can SY mate rather than chase the best players you can't attract and won't pay to get anyway, how difficult is it?
1 how much are you prepared to pay out?
2 where do you need reinforcements?
3 get the best players that fit into both catogarhys.

It's got to beat shadow bidding any day of the week mate.

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29 Jun 2017 17:15:53
No one will come to Arsenal.

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29 Jun 2017 13:28:03
Silly Wenger.

Don't you know you were supposed to be the following for Lemar:

EUR 35,000,001.00.

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29 Jun 2017 10:44:34
Personally I would love lemar to join. But just can't see them selling. Heard we may go back in with 35m. But they have a fair few possible outgoings This summer so can't see it myself.

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29 Jun 2017 09:01:03
By my reckoning we have about 18 players throughout our entire playing staff who's contracts are up or have a year to go. For the life of me I don't see how Arsenal could have let this happen. Is it penny pinching not wanting to negotiate with players until the last minute to save a few quid, or is it a gross dereliction of duty. How can we plan for additions to the squads when we don't know who will be here from this number. Added to that we now seem to be reverting to type and penny pinching on people we want to attract. We are not in a position where we can afford to let other clubs steal the march on us for players. After all the talk of Arsene having his wings clipped, we can now see that nothing has changed and we dither over transfers until the last day of the window. Not looking forward to next season or the atmosphere at our games. Come on Arsenal and Arsene the official transfer window is open tomorrow, prove me wrong, it would make me so happy.

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29 Jun 2017 10:49:33
The false economy policing is a fair point N7 mate, it's backfired so often in the past and will always to do not the future.
We might save 5 million in wages in the early stages of not renewing a players deal to early but we give them the upper hand long term when they approach becoming a free agent, Theo is a great example of this as we had two choices with him either let him go on a free losing out on 20 million or give him an extortionate wage to stay.
The same as signing players late in the window to save wages over the summer, we miss out on players who go to other clubs doing this plus when we do finally sign them they are playing catch up without having a preseason to bed in with their new team which affects their performance and our league position which affects our income off the field and competitiveness on it.
Very short sighted counting the pennies and missing the £s in my opinion and has been for years which is why we will be premier league also rans again this season rather than punching at feather weight rather than premier league heavy weights we are so capable of being.

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29 Jun 2017 11:00:15
18 members of staff, players, etc, seems a lot. However, don't forget some of these will be relatively straightforward. I can't believe that Arsenal are so inept for there not to be a strategy in this or are we simply poor at negotiating such matters?

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29 Jun 2017 12:48:20
Robbie G61.
Here is my list of Contracts up in 2017. Josh Dasilva. Glenn Kamara. Julio Pleguezuelo Selva. Jon Toral. Christopher Willock. Contracts up in 2018. Wojciech Szczesny. Kieran Gibbs. Alexis Sánchez. Jack Wilshere. Mesut Ozil. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. Joel Campbell. Jeff Reine-Adelaide. Krystian Bielik. Gedion Zelalem. Ainsley Maitland-Niles. Stephy Mavididi. Daniel Crowley. On top of that we have Mathieu Debuchy 2019. Per Mertesacker and Santi Cazorla who we are not sure if contracts have been extended. If only a few are straightforward that still leaves a lot of players who should have been tied down to contracts sooner. I wonder what Dick Law actually does with his time. Probably waiting for Arsene to make time in his busy schedule of indecision.

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29 Jun 2017 19:08:09
Keep the faith lads! We'll still have Coquelin!

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29 Jun 2017 21:11:23
Plus van persie and being forced to sell, which looks like the same is going to happen with Sanchez. He should of been given an extension after the first year, but like you say they save a few mil not giving him a raise for a few years, but it doesn't make economic sense in the long run because you're forced in to a lower transfer fee and wages players demand increases.

even if we do manage to get him to sign it will be close to 300k, when if we had offer him the 180k we did a few months back after with a couple years left he probably would of taken it. I think kos and bellerin were left til the last year as well, I think bellerin was kept on 10k a year even having been first choice for a couple seasons, which must of grated, being paid an eighth of someone you are doing more than.

Tottenham in contrast have given deli Ali 3 new contracts in 16 months and knew a new contract even though he still had 3 and a half years left on the old one.

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29 Jun 2017 06:12:24
Are lemar and lacazette good enough to win us the league? Especially if Sanchez departs I don't think they can replace him rather we go for osmanne dembele and dybala just pay th money! even Douglas costa wouldn't be a bad signing we need 3 players if Sanchez stays about 5 if he leaves all the other big clubs will sign at least 3 players.

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29 Jun 2017 09:00:20
😂 I dunno where to start with this to be honest.

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29 Jun 2017 11:06:57
If we somehow retain the three important players then we can make a title challenge - Ox, Ozil and Sanchez, as well as add Lacazette and Lemar, it will definitely be an improvement on last season, when we finished decently after the formation was changed. We have also signed Kolasinac and players such as Holding, Chambers, Reinne-Adelaide and Iwobi, being more experienced after last season.

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29 Jun 2017 17:05:11
You tell him D.

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