Arsenal Banter Archive March 29 2016

 

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29 Mar 2016 18:39:48
EDs, no live chat or page for the internationals?

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{Ed033's Note - There is a Euro 2016 talk page on our football rumours site but no live chats.

29 Mar 2016 20:44:15
Best English team going into a tournament in years. offensively.

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29 Mar 2016 21:35:10
Its young it different its passionate, we mustn't worry to much about how far they get only the experience they get as long as the players used will be around in 2 to 4 years time it's all good.
Germany went to the world cup in 2010 with thier fans and media accepting winning the tournament was to big an ask and the time for that side was going to be 4 years later in the 2014 world cup, we must do like wise for a change.

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29 Mar 2016 16:42:43
Any intrest in goetze or is he off to pool.

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29 Mar 2016 12:52:07
So it's certain Wenger will manage arsenal again and Ozil has spoken out loud 'bout Wenger making top signings. Is Wenger determined to break the bank this time around? i wish we could complete deals very quickly this summer.

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29 Mar 2016 14:09:29
Nothing in this world is certain.

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29 Mar 2016 18:02:37
Oh Steve, don't tell me you're counting on ringing bells for assurances on Wenger managing arsenal again. It's already happened and needless be anounced. Hanging on a thin line as a fan :-)

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29 Mar 2016 23:01:53
Willy there is a long time between now and the end of the season and a lot can happen either way. This is football and the crowd is restless.

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30 Mar 2016 06:41:29
For Wenger to survive beyond the end of next season, he has to make at least 2 top signings in the summer in order to boost the team and excite the fans. This is a possibility, but unlikely, as Wenger tends to prefer unearthing little known, cheap gems, such as Elneny.

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29 Mar 2016 10:32:53
I know we go around and around on the subject of who we should buy, and we all know the places we'd like to see better quality.

I'm as frustrated with Wenger this season as the next guy, especially his failure in the transfer window, it was a huge opportunity missed, I think we all agree with that.

However I'm not convinced with the clueless tactics and naivety argument, the big failing of the team for me is our striking position, had he sorted that we would not be in our current mess.

We play some great football but a return of 48 goals from 448 shots on target in the premier league so far this season tells the real story. We had 22 shots at goal against West Ham in the opening game of the season. Lost 2-0.

Defensively, third best in the league, yes we need to improve but it really is a top quality striker that will make a vast difference.

This is where Wenger needs to get his proverbial S**t together.

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29 Mar 2016 11:44:05
This season could have been last season or the season before and many before that. It all just rolls into the next season with the same old excuses and promises. We just don't progess from one session to the other and constantly chugging along in our fourth place status and our champs league just getting into second and getting bounced out in the last 16. It just seems so stale and stuck.

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29 Mar 2016 12:11:41
That's what I mean Steve, we go around and around with the same stuff.

Feeling is such that if he doesn't sort, for me, that one position above all others, he will actually be hounded out.

As sad as it is to say I think the Emirates will become truly toxic.

We do play some quality football but like you said yesterday, if it doesn't end up in the net, what is the point.

So sort a bloody striker worthy of the name out and do it first.

I should add I'm going into the window with zero expectation then I can't be disappointed. Lol.

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29 Mar 2016 12:40:03
I too have very little expectation this summer and i also think we aren't alone and that in itself is also a problem.

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29 Mar 2016 12:54:06
Putting the ball in the net is not only the strikers problem, we have players all over the team for one reason or another are not good at putting the ball in the net. Years ago you would expect 10 to 15 from defenders at set pieces, 10 to 20 from the wings 20 to 30 from midfield and 30 to 40 from various strikers in the league netting close to 100 goals to win the league. I think we are dropping way below that in all areas that is why we are not getting goals, we used to be scary from set pieces into the box and our wide men chipped in regularly with goals coupled to outstanding strikers, not the case now. Ally that to a defence with as poor an attack to goal letting in ratio as any team near the bottom of the league and you don't win leagues.

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29 Mar 2016 13:51:17
Well said stoner, i think same old Wenger and same old arsenal will identify a topnotch striker and play delay tactics till some other team signs him off. And then he'll say we were this close to signing. Can't even hear any Jackson Martinez whispers.

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29 Mar 2016 13:53:47
I don't disagree with any of that Steve and whilst Welbeck and Wilshere got ruled out before we'd even kicked a ball I expected much more from Cazorla, Ramsey, Sanchez, Chamberlain and the like on the goal scoring front.

That aside a striker who puts the ball in the back of the net for us would make a huge difference. It spreads confidence through the team, instead of it being 0-0 going into the 2nd half of games we could and should have been 2 or 3 nil up.

The best form of defence has always been known as attack. The United game at home we showed it perfectly, we killed it in 20 minutes.

That's the big difference, our efforts go unrewarded and we get sucker punched.

The chances, as in all 448 of the are there it's the obviously, as far as our players go, the hideously difficult task of putting them in the net.

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29 Mar 2016 19:14:36
A top striker would have made us champions this season of that I have little doubt but next season I think it will be much more difficult than this time round so a striker alone will most probably not be enough.

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29 Mar 2016 15:56:45
Great post red dog. Koeman has a year left on his deal btw ideal for us.

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29 Mar 2016 07:30:46
Maybe we do not know as much about Arsenal as we think we do because for sure I'm getting a little baffled now!
Let's look at the Wenger situation on a normal employment basis.
A manager in any other normal job would have been told or asked to leave by now.
What job in the world do you know where someone can perform like he has and he can come out with statements basically saying " I'm going nowhere for the time being until I'm ready " Who is running this
company?
I've got nothing against Wenger as a person believe me. But come on everyone it's got a bit beyond a joke now when an employee, which he is, starts calling the shots after failing miserably for years now.

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29 Mar 2016 07:56:21
To be fair his employers have already given him their backing and all he is doing is saying he won't walk away because of the stick he's getting.
I wouldn't listen to those with thier own agenda to much and all that new contract rubbish, Arsene will finish this contract next summer and IMO it's extremely likely he will stand down or what ever as manager of Arsenal football club.

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29 Mar 2016 08:23:32
You conveniently left out qualifying for the CL for 2 decades on the trot on a beer budget, while turning down high profile job offers like RM.

I view this season as a missed opportunity and Wenger gets a big part of the blame, but can't fathom how anyone can deny his qualities.

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29 Mar 2016 09:15:35
You are joking, right. That gives the impression you've been a fan for maybe what, a week.

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29 Mar 2016 09:41:18
Wenger at Arsenal:
Premier League Winners: 3
FA Cup Winners: 6
Community Shield Winners: 6
Premier League Manager of the Season: 3
Champions League Qualification: Every season and Runners up once
New Stadium
New Training Facilities
As fans we can get a bit frustrated with Wenger, but during his period at the club not many PL teams or their managers have won more trophies, nor improved the club as a whole to the degree he has.
He has brought us to the brink of competing against the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Indeed, we have managed to beat these clubs during his tenure.
Some of the suggestions to replace him have been absurd and the top managers are not available this summer, assuming that is that Mourinho is lined up for Man Utd.
Is Lanesra a Tottenham fan? If so can he please list the trophies Pochettino has won in his entire managerial career.
If he is an Arsenal fan, can he please tell me of a manager that is available to replace Wenger and has a record equal to or better than Wenger's. For the purpose of this exercise, let's assume Mourinho isn't available as he is reportedly on his way to Man U.
I must admit that Wenger frustrates me at times, particular with poor players he has kept too long or with his refusal to sign a couple of top defensive midfield players and his insistence on playing small technical players in the defensive midfield roles, only for them to suffer injuries as a consequence. However, we may well rue the day he goes, if he is forced out by the fans at the end of his current deal.

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29 Mar 2016 09:56:17
Top replies, especially RG69.

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29 Mar 2016 09:59:55
RG69 great post, really liked that Wenger's biggest failing is that he loves his players too much, so keeps them too long. nice ;-)

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29 Mar 2016 11:19:53
I think part of the problem fans have with Wenger is the ridiculous decision not to strengthen our team last summer. We missed a great opportunity there but for whatever reason we didn't build on the momentum gained through the FA cup wins. At times this season Wenger has came across as someone who can no longer motivate players and in turn that has affected the players . This summer we will not buy the quality needed to win the league. One reason being that prices will be inflated due to the euros and Wenger has it stuck in his head he will only buy top top quality, players who are only available when the price is right. With man city supposedly buying every player under the sun and Man U splashing out to rebuild there will be slim pickings for the rest and I'm afraid that our philosophy of putting in low offers will result in more of the same frustration for fans . This summer will tell us an awful lot about the ambition of both the board and our manager.

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29 Mar 2016 11:54:54
Red I view this seaon as a failure to take advantage of the the failings of our excuses that we can't win the league because the teams that spend more money than us have had a bummer of a season and we have not been able to perform again. Limping to a fourth place finish. I hold the view if we can't win it this season we never will due to failure to progess with the times and strike when our opponents are down. yet again some major errors of judgement have been made.

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29 Mar 2016 12:03:41
Rg some of the suggestions of replacement have been absurd, that's your opinion like others think its absurd that he should still be manager. You really haven't a clur where we would be if we had got a new manager 1,2,3 four seasons ago and you haven't a clue where we would be next season either if he went in the summer. We could be worse off but we could be a whole lot better off, no sujestion is absurd. I bet if someone said Ranieri was going yo be our manager last year you would have said what!

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29 Mar 2016 13:12:49
Rg69 what's this obsession with poch? Constantly trying to convince others that he's rubbish. He's a young manager who looked the part at Southampton . I for one think he has done well and trying to compare his record in the game to someone who's been managing for thirty odd years is mental! Poch only problem is the team he manages but let's not slip out of reality into some biased madness.

Wenger thanks for the the memory's.

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29 Mar 2016 15:12:55
The saddest part Steve, is not only do I agree with you that this was a missed opportunity and 1 signing might have been the difference (Striker or CDM) - but I still fully expect us to finish ahead of Spurs and draw within a few of Leicester - which in a weird way will only make us more sad than our recent stranglehold on 4th.

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29 Mar 2016 16:41:48
Red unless with some miracle we win the league, it would be a massive disappointment to finish second and a massive disappointment to finish behind toots in third if that is the case and an even bigger one to finish fourth. Considering everything.

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29 Mar 2016 15:59:12
Just telling you what I heard few months back 62. I don't know inside arsenal myself just what I get told. There's a contract offer there.

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29 Mar 2016 19:24:50
Just my thoughts gunner. But if he signs the deal then just a little OK derby good call will so.

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30 Mar 2016 08:22:56
Derby someone is feeding you manure mate, an offer of a new deal at this time makes no sense at all from anyone's point of view.
Arsene himself I'm sure doesn't want to think beyond next season and with us having a, very poor season and next season looking like being tougher than ever why would the board or anyone else want to make a decision they is no need to make at this time?
Some people are just trying to keep the pressure on Arsene simply because after the Everton performance most fans have already got over their disappointment and are 100% behind Arsene again and those with thier own agenda are getiing desperate to regain some momentum for it.

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29 Mar 2016 06:46:37
I'm pleased to learn that Wenger intends remaining at the club next season. Although us fans can get a little frustrated with Wenger a times, he has brought stability and trophies to the team for 20 years, which is no mean feat. Don't forget any replacement for Wenger will, in order to better his recent achievements; win the PL. get to the last 8 of the CL, win the FA Cup and/ or win the League Cup.
In order to continue managing Arsenal after next season, with the fans on board, I believe Wenger must make at least 3 serious summer signings and I am not convinced that he will do so.

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29 Mar 2016 07:16:15
RG69. You forgot one thing mate.
In the last few years he has also brought arrogance to the club.

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29 Mar 2016 08:37:49
RG any replacement will need to finish either Top 2 once or top 3 more than twice in 11 attempts to better Arsenes recent PL record.
Its extremely likely Arsene will continue on the same course he's plotted over the last 12 years simply because that's what he thinks is best and I see no reason to think he will suddenly have a complete change in his philosophy this summer and to me it makes sense to think if you continue to do the same things season after season you will continue to get the same results.
Sacking Arsene is not an option that's not necessary or the right thing to do with just one year to go, those of us who find it hard to be excited by our chances next season under Arsene should just grin and bare it for one more season.

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29 Mar 2016 09:52:05
lanesra - I don't for one moment believe Wenger has brought arrogance to the club. He has brought stability, entertainment and trophies.
gunner62 - Coming in the top two in the PL is not an easy task, this season possibly being an exception with smaller clubs Leicester and Tottenham currently in those places, although I can see us claiming 2nd place. These positions have in recent seasons been filled by the likes of Chelsea, Man City and Man U. In the case of the first two they have been 'financially doped', whilst Man U are one of the biggest clubs in the world and have the finances to match. Wenger had to cope for many seasons under financial restrictions imposed by the cost of building the new stadium. There are very few managers, if any, that I feel could take over from Wenger and do better without a huge injection of capital to finance the acquisition of 3 or 4 world class players. There are the likes of Guardiola, Ancelotti and Mourinho, but none of them are available (assuming Mourinho goes to United) and all would need substantial funds to sign players. The problem with Wenger and the fans, is that he has been at the club for 20 years and perhaps we are a little used to him and bored by his methods. I can assure you that if Wenger signed 3 top players this summer, we would all be very excited again. The problem is that we will get one at best.

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29 Mar 2016 14:44:12
Rg they as you put it might have been finacially doped although chelski won the league on a deficit last year, but we have been financially duped.

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29 Mar 2016 10:32:31
What do you think Eds. Is there a boy of arrogance there or what?

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{Ed025's Note - arrogance and stubbornness can easily be confused lanesra, i dont believe he is arrogant but does at times treat arsenals money as if its his own, if he had spent in the summer (or even the winter) then i believe arsenal would have won the league this season mate..