Arsenal Banter Archive May 29 2014

29 May 2014 21:37:32
Eds,
Would you be kind enough to clear something up for me please.
If reports are to be believed, Lambert has signed for Liverpool.
Now, the window isn't open yet, so is this, at present, a 2 party agreement between Southampton and Liverpool?.
I'm assuming, and I may be wrong, that it's only a 'draft' agreement because it can't be officially sanctioned by The FA until the window opens?

Also, monies can't be exchanged, again until window opens and FA sanction the deal?.

{Ed003's Note - seems about right to me dg.}

Thanks 003, much obliged.

Just out of interest what would happen if while in Brazil Ricky Lambert met a wizard who turned him into a goat? Would Liverpool still have to take him or would there be an opt out clause written into the deal in this event?
I know it most probably won't even happen but I was just wondering

{Ed007's Note - Why would anyone want to turn a donkey into a goat?}

Good point 007, but I wasn't thinking he would meet a nasty cake horrible Brazilian wizard just one who's English wasn't so good and when Ricky said his wish was to be amongst the goals it might get lost in translation

29 May 2014 21:40:04
We are not a feeder club.

The players that left chose to do so.

I'm a big Morata fan, but a buy back clause is rubbish.

We don't groom superstars for other teams.

Rather, grow some balls and go pick Di Maria, the CL MOTM, off right from under their nose

You don't gain respect by grooming talent for your competition, rather you gain it by taking their best players with them sitting handcuffed

We are not Everton or Getafe

Time to act like a big boy, not an invited guest to the big boys table

Rant over

Do buyback clauses mean anything - we have one with Cesc and with Vela and don't see either of them returning.

Its in the hands of the player just the number may already be pre-determined.

Absolutely USG,

we need to think big to be big.

Buy back clauses are big in Spain, and as in the case of Vela and Sociedad, can be a disaster

29 May 2014 20:33:35
So Sagna confirms the worst kept secret that he will definitely leave on a free transfer.

After 8 years or so of service he's earnt the right to run his contract down and get one more big payday at 31.

Now over to Carl Jenkinson.

No, not over to Jenks. I think he needs to be loaned out, I love his work ethic and how he adores the club. but he's not good enough, yet

Agree Greeny, good post.

Totally agree with all doctor Green, Sagna has been brilliant for us just feel a little sorry for him that he leaves the year before the title arrives, hey ho his loss is Jenks gain.
Jenks deserves his chance and I think he will more than take it

29 May 2014 19:09:04
Ask a serious question and get lots of silly answers, hehe.

That's why I love this site, lol.

You are all as bad as me x

29 May 2014 19:32:58
But how can we tell when your being serious?

You know me Jen, i'm always serious lol.

I am definitely a medically trained welding dolphin trainer.


Who lives in a cave.


In Pakistan.

Greeny,
So if one of your dolphins has an accident and loses a fin and passes out, you could give him CPR and weld his fin back on?

You the man.

It's all part of the service I provide DG!

29 May 2014 16:52:53
Following from G62's post, just out of curiosity, where does everybody live? (sorry if it comes across as being a personal question).

I live in Rio De Janeiro, about a mile from the Maracana stadium.

I live in the vacated cave in Pakistan where Osama Bin Laden used to hide.

Sunny Swindon for me, home of the Magic Roundabout.

I live in Rio de Febrero about a month away from you

Oi como voce esta dags! fala comigo meu amigo. I live in Hackney but hail from Rio Grande do norte, Natal!

Rainy herts, home of the worlds first roundabout!

Christ you lot are posh i'm from mid wales.

I'm posh compared to you lot of riff-raff, lol.

Head for the second star on the right and continue til morning. You can't miss it.
Flybo

29 May 2014 18:45:56
I live on a beach, two doors up from Ed025 :-)

Posh Welsh Gooner? . most on here would at least get out the bath to have a wee. I am from Walthamstow. we don't get out the bath to have a rubbish!

Hi Baz
oi como voce esta to you too.

(hold on while I just google what you just said, lol).

I (unlike greeny who is from the middle east) am from the south east (of england)

Where exactly Saint?

I used to live in sunny Cyprus, but now live in Royal Arsenal just behind Dial Arch not bad for a 60yr gooner. Mind you back to Cyprus on Saturday for a while

Swansea me boyo

I live under the beer taps of various pubs

Same as saint.

.

I'm from Oxford, live in Dubai

Hows it going bruv would be the gooner translation :)

Im the poshest as I actually live under Wengers seat on the touch line at the Emirates. Sorry to dissapoint you all.

Well i'm from Yeovil. Lol

Gooner83

Thanks Baz, lol.

yo, hows it going Goldboy?

Originally London, now I'm in Aberdeen. Hip hip.

30 May 2014 08:58:12
I am from the kingdom of fife

Im just down the road from you Dagenham gunner

RG =Rainham Gunner

Chelmsford, Essex - not far from a few of you guys

Guess.

RG, I bet you use to go in the cherry tree lol.

29 May 2014 12:37:45
Idea for poll or poll of the day question. Who is a better player, Ramsey or Gerrard?

A debate I was having with my brother (LFC fan). Gerrard has had a good season by his standards, but surely Ramsey has now surpassed him as a box-to-box, goal scoring midfielder? Gerrard obviously a better leader on the pitch etc.

Thoughts?

{Ed033's Note - Above poll now on the Arsenal voting polls page.

Ramsey has had one good season
gerrard has had 10 good ones

But Ramsey is 23 whereas gerrard is 33/34.

Gonna agree with Reet as its a bit unfair to compare the 2 players but if Rambo turns out to be as good as what Gerrard was (or arguably still is) I would be happy.

Its like comparing me and G62.
my posts are always good, G62's are sometimes good.
(sorry mate, only joking, call it pay back for your Remy comments, lol).

REET
LOL
hope you aren't counting this year buddy, I meen I know a few scousers that would have burnt him at the stake after chelsea

29 May 2014 19:05:33
Reet,

So your saying Gerrard has been better than Ramsey last 10 years. Bit unfair seeing as Ramsey spent two years recovering from a horror injury. Stevie G has had his first good season in a while. Honestly say he hasn't had a good season since 2009.

Ramsey better goal scorer, tackler, he is more of an athlete. i'd say he has already surpassed Gerrard.

Good men I look very much forward to meeting buying you both and buying your first piint, of course same goes for anyone else who wanted to join us?
We will be able to post the photo of photos on the sightings page :-) our granddad's great uncles etc will be proud of us lads.
Hopefully we'll have a betting crossing than the lads had 100 years ago :-)
Pack up ya troubles in ya old kit bags boys, its a jolly boys go Continental outing to pay their respects

I had it coming Dags mate I can't argue with that :-)
The answer to Rambo v Gerrard is easy! Who has scored most goals? For Arsenal that is.

But guys ramsey has had one season
many of you wanted him out last year
unless he csn replicate his form for the next five years he will be nowhere close to gerrard
but yes he does have the potential albeit his injury concerns

Based on last season, Ramsey played better than Gerrard in my opinion.

Gerrard has been good for over a decade and I echo the sentiments of others, if we plays as well as Gerrard has done we'l all be more than happy.

For me though, Ramsey has the potential to exceed Gerrard! If he wins a Champions League like Stevie G it'll be good too!

30 May 2014 09:18:47
Thought I'd add my 2 cents as a Liverpool fan and say that Gerrard is still the more complete player, as already stated Ramsey was hardly the fans no1 before the season began.
I do however agree that Ramsey can be as good as Gerrard if his form carries on.

Forget about history the question was, who's better.

Ramsey is without a doubt a better finisher, much more energy, a better tackler, far better box to box midfielder, the one department I'd say gerrard is better in is his range of passing, this season he has dropped deeper and controlled the game like scholes used to for Utd (not as good as scholes did though.)

Ramsey is better now, how about this for a statement, he is also better than Schweinsteiger.

29 May 2014 14:44:04
Not sure why we would want to get Richards as our rb for next year.

In the last 2 seasons has made like 18'appearances due to serious injuries and people complain we have to many so why bring in another player who will end up on the treatment table who will want around 100k a week.

Seems a silly move in my opinion for an average player

Totally agree Pizz.

waste of money, IMO.

Agreed but it must be hard playing only a few games a season behind Zabaleta! Up until 2011/12 season he had played an average of 40 games a season. Aurier and another center back would be a more solid bet but at the same time Richards has prem experience and knows what it takes to win the league after playing 37 games in their title winning season he just hasn't been able to get in the team recently so his fitness is F-ed just look what city have done to Englands most promising midfielder from a couple of years ago Rodwell who?

29 May 2014 14:19:53
Ed can we plus have a poll to bring back the Ed summary?

All of us should lose out due to a couple of .

Agreed

Yes i'm think its missed

29 May 2014 11:41:15
Transfer talk is a bit slow today. I have a quiz challenge for you all. No google search to find the answers.

1) How many players have scored for Arsenal in all competitions?

2) Which players have scored their first goal for Arsenal this season (All competitions)

3) Which nationality has the most different goal scorers? (Number of players, not goals scored)

1. 12
2. Ozil, jenks, not sanogo
3. English

Complete guesswork, good questions

29 May 2014 13:55:57
1. 9
2. Ozil, Jenkinson and Gnabry (vs Swansea)
3. French, English and German 4 each (Kos, Sagna, Giroud, Flamini + Walcott, Ox, Wilshere, Jenkinson + Ozil, Podolski, Gnabry, Mertesacker)

Unfortunately you have not got all three technically right.

Good honest "no cheating" effort though.

1) Higher
2) More
3) Not quite correct.

All just guesses from me.

1/ 20

2/ Gnabry, Ozil, Miyachi and Jenks. there's probably more but I can't think.

3/ Spain

When do we get the reults in

5 new goal scorers actually

Detroit, you are also wrong on all three.

Good effort though!

Saint you are wrong. There are four new goalscorers not five.

I'll give everyone a chance and then give the answers at some point this evening just to give the regulars a chance.

29 May 2014 15:11:11
I admit a complete guess for 1. Who else scored first goal for 2? Surely one of those 3 nationalities is right?

Detroit, the country with the most scorers had FIVE different scorers. That might help answer the question.

1) 16
2) Ozil Gnabry Jenks Monreal
3) British

29 May 2014 15:58:37
Haha this is annoying me. going to have a second crack at it

1. 16

2. Ozil, Jenks, Gnabry and Flamini (1st goal in second spell?) Really can't think of anyone else. Kallstrom and Sanogo didn't score. Monreal debut goal was last season.

3. English, did gibbs score aswell?

1) 16
2 ) Ozil Jenks Gnabry Moneral
3) Britaun

Huh? Only posted my correction 5 new goal scorers including kallstroms pen, British and 17 goal scorers overall

1). 19.

2). Ozil, jenks, gnabry and Eisfeld.

Germans or Brits.

.

BDG you are also wrong on all three I'm afraid.

More than 16 players.

Wrong four players.

Britain isn't a country. It's a collection of countries so no that doesn't count.

To be fair he said nationality not country, so British would be correct. It was my bad first time round saying England

Sm6 is probably the closest!

The answers are:

1) 19 different scorers in all competitions (out of a possible 33 players used)

2) Four players broke their goal scoring ducks this season. Ozil, Jenkinson, Gnabry and Eisfeld (in the league cup!)

3) Finally, two countries had FIVE different goal scorers for Arsenal this season; England (Gibbs, Jenks, Wilshere, Walcott and Oxlaide-Chamberlain) and German (Mertesacker, Gnabry, Eisfeld, Podolski and Ozil)

Good work guys!

29 May 2014 18:50:26
Damn, I was going to say exactly that Greeny. :-)

I feal thoroughly cheated on the british thing, :D

Good quiz Greeny.

Damn thought Britain would finally beat germany lol

So just to clarify I won yeah!? ;)

.

I will come up with some more tomorrow! Good work gang!

29 May 2014 08:31:00
So apparently Samaul Eto'o wants to come to Arsenal, if it works out ok for him Pele, Bobby Charlton and Johan Cruyff may come too.

Also I heard about paul scholes, fingers crossed.

If the rule on over 30's contract renewals apply what's the rule for over 40s, 50s and 60s?