Arsenal Banter Archive May 29 2017

29 May 2017 18:28:59
now don't bite my head off, but would it really be the worst thing in the world if we snapped up joe hart? i know he didn't have the best season at torino, but cech won't be around forever so the gk position will be yet another problem fairly soon.

29 May 2017 19:23:52
I'd take him in a heartbeat.

29 May 2017 19:38:17
Joe isn't a Peter Shilton Peter Schmiechel or Petr Cech of a few seasons back but who is? And of those who are who are available and if there available who would we have to beat off to sign them?
Joe's as good as most and has two title winning medals to his name so why not.

29 May 2017 20:16:39
Better than Ospina?

Not for me.

29 May 2017 20:32:41
Would prefer a punt at young Pickford purely my opinion.

29 May 2017 20:40:01
Both are capable of brilliant stops and clangers too Dags but Joe is extremely vocal which would be no bad thing.

29 May 2017 20:45:30
Rather have Szczesny back. Yes had a better season in the same league and (bite my head off if you want lol) he's better than both Ospina and Cech (whose best days are well behind him)

29 May 2017 21:01:11
G62,
So what if he can sing 😆.

29 May 2017 21:06:05
Pickford all day long COYG Think he would remove Czech from first team 😀.

{Ed025's Note - hes not good enough yet sussex, had a blinder of a season but you would expect that playing behind that pathetic defence he was in action that often, he is not very commanding in his area and is weak in the air for me, yes hes a very good shot stopper and certainly looks one for the future but hes not there yet mate..

29 May 2017 21:23:40
Im with eds there. Break the bank for oblak imo.

{Ed025's Note - looks like PSG will be getting him derby..

29 May 2017 22:16:49
Dags I was thinking he could liven up the library a bit mate, if we could retain Arteta because he was good in the changing room why can't we sign Joe because he's great in the crowd :-)

29 May 2017 22:28:09
G62,
And he doesn't have dandruff.

That's the clincher lol.

29 May 2017 23:26:51
Dont rate him at all.

30 May 2017 00:07:10
Eds great signing for psg then. Never really had a top goalie have they.

30 May 2017 02:42:15
Hi Ed 025 agree with you and am happy with Cech and Ospina but mentioned Pickford so I could use the removal joke - missed by everyone so I must try harder with my jokes for next season 😂.

{Ed025's Note - i missed that sussex, good stuff mate.. :)

30 May 2017 00:07:10
Eds great signing for psg then. Never really had a top goalie have they.

{Ed025's Note - im not sure about that derby mate..

30 May 2017 12:21:04
Since the take over I mean. Sirigu. Trapp etc. Not really top level imo. Oblak in gives them another level. Same as real madrid as de gea I feel.

30 May 2017 14:53:11
Pickford is promising but Jack Butland looks a very decent keeper IMO, and would be my choice to replace Cech. He seems to have the right balance between confidence and calmness, is a good shot stopper but also seems confident in taking crosses, which for me separates the men from the boys. Most premiership GK's are brilliant shot stoppers, just look at Fabianski at Swansea, but its the keepers who keep their concentration to produce the goods when called upon that are the top keepers, especially knowing when to come and when to stay (concentration is what really let's Fraser Forster down, who otherwise is an imposing figure, but like Hart, prone to a gaff)

29 May 2017 13:39:13
Apart from Jenkinson, Debuchy and a couple of others who are clearly on their way out (Ospina, Sanogo) , imagine for a minute we kept our whole squad next season (yes - a pig did just fly past my window) and recalled all our players from these season's loans.

Then imagine you can put together a Premier League first 11 and a Europa League and League Cup first 11 to start each game in that competition set until Xmas.

No duplication of any players across starting 11s - Who gets in each of your squads, which preferred formation do you use and who captains each line-up?

Given how many fixtures we could face next season, I'm very interested to hear who everyone thinks could play a role for us next season and who can be let go. And please don't come out with "always start your strongest available 11". If you play all those possible fixtures between August and January, you need a big squad. Players get fed up if they only warm the bench and those who play will tire, so rotation will be a must.

29 May 2017 11:04:32
We will all know Arsene and the boards decision on Arsene's​ future within the next couple of days and I think the Arsene in out campaign should end with the announcement of that decision and what ever our stand point we should all accept it 100% and get on with it.
Most of us now expect Arsene to stay and if that's what happens I will automatically be resigning from the Arsene out campaign with immediate effect.
Those of us who want change should all accept defeat with good grace and set about coping in the way that's best for us, for some that might mean giving up on Arsenal completely​ for others it might mean taking less of an interest while others might be happy to fall back inline and get behind Arsene 100% again.
There is no right or wrong way to cope it's very much a personal decision for each of us who feel Arsene should go to come to terms with and do what's right for them as individuals, supporting Arsenal is not an obligation it's a lifestyle choice.
What ever we all decide to do personally I think collectively we should all accept it 100%, no more banners no more planes no more demonstrations, which ever way it goes the battle will be and should be over.

29 May 2017 11:17:47
I agree with you 62. But some people just won't accept it. They'll just moan and moan and moan secretly hoping he messes up somewhere. Sadly every team has those fans ours are just growing in numbers.

29 May 2017 11:30:45
Well said hey bhind the club no matter what all this Wenger out banners and planes is cringey we were a laughing stock coming to the end of the season.

29 May 2017 12:18:11
A bad start to the season and it will be horrible imo. Last year the loss to liverpool came back to haunt us. He thinks we are only two or three players away. can't see it myself. No change itl be same old. Either way come Thursday something will change. Someone is resigning surely.

29 May 2017 12:30:20
Totally agree - I am just buying my "board out" banner for the charity shield 😉

Thanks for all the great banter and chat. I am a Wenger in and clearly right and although Steve and Mskags etc are completely wrong - I have enjoyed the back and forth on this topic

On a serious note - all the banter has been fun and made me question and research a lot of things. One thing for sure - we all want the best for OUR club

Here's to more chat over the summer 🥂.

29 May 2017 13:05:46
Again, it all depends on how you look at it.
3 FA Cups in 4 years is brilliant, and can never be erased from history.

Am I happy with that?
Yes of course I am, as far as the FA Cup goes.

But a club, who consider themselves to be an elite club, and if there was a breakaway league for European elite clubs, Wenger and the board would want to be part of it, cannot seriously class themselves as an elite club as we have not won our own domestic League in 13 seasons.

Do I want Wenger to stay?
I'm really not sure. Give him unlimited resources, but will he spend it?
Has he addressed previous weaknesses in our squad to a satisfactory standard? League form tells you no he hasn't.

Does Arsene/ Arsenal still have the magnetism to attract top players?

Part of me wants him to stay, part of me wants him to leave, especially when you look at what Conti has just done at Chelsea.

For me, at present, there's too many questions and not enough answers.

29 May 2017 13:55:36
The way I see it is the Arsene once again has the majority of fans and the boards support and much like an election people make thier decision who to back and the winner gets to be in office for the next term, you can't keep calling for elections because things didn't go your way at the last one.
If Arsene is given 2 more years those who didn't want it should accept it with dignity and those who back him now should stand by him and accept what comes without complaint, if Arsene lands a title they should pat themselves on the back for not giving up on him and if he never again leads Arsenal out to the champions league music they should take thier full share of the responsibility for that too.

29 May 2017 14:23:44
Imo opinion Derby anyone who isn't happy should simply stay away from the Emirates next season buying a ticket isn't compulsory, no banners are needed people should just get on with thier lives elsewhere, there is a lot lot more to life than football and if football isn't bringing you pleasure stay away from it.
Most of us have to work wether we like it or not, we have to pay our bills wether we like it or not but no one is forcing anyone to pay to watch Arsenes teams play, it's a choice.

29 May 2017 16:09:08
I think we are in for a bumpy ride gunner. I love playing football watching it sure but not die hard. Not been to the emirates since he resigned last time. And no longer visit the away games closer to home.

The biggest question for me is are ozil sanchez staying. If they go we are doomed and can't replace them with the same quality. Esp sanchez his goal record and assists is immense.

29 May 2017 16:45:12
Derby I don't think there is any chance of Sanchez staying mate he's far too good a player and far to ambitious to be 4th place chaser.
Mesut I'm not sure about but I'd be surprised if he didn't have good options I guess a lot depends on how happy he is with life outside of football and living in London, but Mesut I'm sure will have the chance to go where he is virtually guaranteed to be involved in titles and possibly champions league challenging too.
Mate my point is once the decision on Arsene is made it's made and there seems absolutely no benefit to anyone to continue to argue against something happening that's already happened.

29 May 2017 02:34:36
So Arsene tells the board to ignore the fans opinions and to concentrate on the facts when considering offering him a new deal. Good riddance is what I say but what would that matter.

29 May 2017 07:11:39
Some Arsenal fans are never satisfied, yes I like many other Arsenal fans get frustrated by Wenger, but in the cold light of day, he is a superb manager having brought new training facillities, a new stadium, 3 league tiles, 7 FA Cups, CL qualification (with the exception of this season - narrowly missing out) , 6 Community shields, a CL final, world class players attracted to the club and much more. Indeed, 3 trophies in the last four seasons is no mean feat when competing against some of the wealthiest clubs in world football. I hope Wenger remains at the club for at least 2 more seasons and that fellow gooners gert behind him.

29 May 2017 10:43:51
I don't see who him signing a new deal helps us or himself. he's forgotten what's been a let down season. Finished second year before was supposed to push us on failed. The cups great take it and walk.

29 May 2017 11:07:30
But isn't it the fans opinions that matter? The man is a dictator.

29 May 2017 16:20:42
No the fans don't matter and that has fuelled the fire.

{Ed002's Note - He is absolutely right if he has said that - the fans have turned toxic like those of other clubs before them. It is extremely embarrassing. However, the board will have already decided that the fans are not worth the grief.}