Arsenal Banter Archive April 02 2017

02 Apr 2017 21:19:18
Played well today I thought.

02 Apr 2017 21:44:12
Cant argue with that. We looked like the old arsenal at times, the good and the bad. Pity it was a draw, it does us no good at all.

02 Apr 2017 22:19:30
I think the performance was encouraging, it is a real shame we conceded the goals the way we did. Thought Xhaka and Monreal especially were fantastic and even Gabriel when he came on was great. Glad we got Koscielny off at half time rather than risk it. so no repeat of the two Bayern games when we collapsed.

A point does us no real good in catching City or Liverpool and breaking into that top 4. Looking at the games we have left I am not overly confident we can pull it off, it is looking pretty bleak. Southapton A and Leicester H being our games in hand are winnable, but will be tough. Hopefully we can beat W Ham and City lose to Chelsea. see how things shape up going into next weekend.

02 Apr 2017 23:02:09
Xhaka are you having a laugh both he and coq were awful first half and improved to a slightly better level second, probably when yaya came ambling on.

02 Apr 2017 22:53:12
It's a step forward not one back so that I'm thankful of. Reading some of the reviews about the game with headlines like arsenal snatch draw was well wide of the mark. A point today was not ideal but it's a damn site better than loosing and been 10 behind city.

At least they are playing Chelsea away on Wednesday and if they loose and we start winning games we should with all games square we could be a point off them. Liverpool have best run in but they have been dropping points against the lower sides. I'm not so worried about united because their run in is a horror show, they have to play every team above them bar Liverpool.

02 Apr 2017 23:41:34
Xhaka was bloody awful went missing for 60 minutes.

02 Apr 2017 23:45:13
Much better performance today. Ospina, Monreal and Gabriel all had much better games. No real poor performances except the issue I believe is trying to accommodate ozil. Playing him in front of coq and Xhaka leaves our midfield and subsequently our defence too exposed.

Xhaka played much better today but he is not a DM. Watch him play for Switzerland, he plays in a much more advanced role where he runs the attack, not protecting the defence. Would rather play the third midfielder behind coq and Xhaka, to protect the defence and let Xhaka play higher up the pitch.

03 Apr 2017 01:30:37
Xhakas sloppyness was part off the reason we let in two goals first half. What do people see in him, he's awful and doesn't contribute to the team with anything except a couple of Hollywood passes now and then and a couple of Skegness ones too.

03 Apr 2017 12:02:06
The performance wasn't great but ok. Strange things like lack of goal celebrations, mardyness when being subbed, giving up when trying to get a goal, general apathy around the team and lack of clarity from the club is all a bit strange. There is definitely something going on but we are not finding out.

03 Apr 2017 13:56:29
The performance was no better or worse than Man City, who are stuffed full of big name players, so yes, it was definitely an improvement. Also good to see some of our more maligned players having a better game (Ospina, Monreal and Gabriel spring to mind) . Now if only we could get Ozil and Walcott to contribute to the game more (and not just by giving the ball back to the opposition right in front of our goal allowing them to score in the formers case) , we might actually have a decent run in. Despite the recent criticism of our individual players I thought we looked more like a team yesterday than Man City, who play like a collection of individuals who rely on a few superstars to dig them out of any holes.

02 Apr 2017 20:07:53
Loren Kotsielni;s injury is prologue of Arsen Wenger's incapability to know how to use his players, at the back of a very tough European championship with the lad's national side he's use him in almost every match this season he cannot rest him against certain lower team and allow Gabriel some game time to get match fitness, however he wouldn't do so because even he knows with Nacho Montreal, Cocolan and Giroud in our squad, who supposedly to follow the footsteps of Ashly Cole, Vierra, Denice Bangcamp, Henry, even he know k.

02 Apr 2017 19:02:39
Ivan Gazidis says the fans will ultimately decide if Arsene stays or goes this summer, I'm more than happy with that.
If the majority of fans still want Arsene to be our manager next season that's exactly what should happen because as much as i don't think Arsene can ever make us competitive again i totally believe in democracy and what the majority want is what should happen even when it's not what i personally would choose.
I'm not sure what the majority of fans want because as vocal as people like myself are about wanting a change of manager the Arsene in fans are often less vocal not because they are less passionate but simply because those who already have what they want tend to less bothered to voice thier opinion unless they position looks under serious threat of changing.
But how do we find out what the majority of Arsenal really want?

02 Apr 2017 19:39:06
i'm not vocal particularly, for me, the in club fighting, Banners on planes and billboards outside the club are embarrassing. In my eyes i think one of two things need to happen.

1. Arsene, let's go of his biggest strength, Loyalty. To his players i mean, Too many average players who aren't up to the task. Especcially the British ones and Home grown.

2. Stands down and let's someone in who can kick the lazy bone idol talentless pre-madonas in the ass and motivate a team of average players.

Wenger will always be a legend in my eyes, I'd like to see him go somewhere he can win the champions league and be remembered for the great manager he is. That is not Arsenal, not with the current board who are just happy to make money.

02 Apr 2017 20:03:15
Which is a bloody stupid statement from IG the board should be able to make their own minds up.

02 Apr 2017 20:32:41
To be fair Banbury mate i think they have and are looking to gauge the reaction to it either way, Arsene is popular they are not so they want to know where they stand.

02 Apr 2017 21:47:18
Personally i think they are all trying to buy time, trouble is time isn't going to help.

02 Apr 2017 22:13:04
I've just read Arsene's comments on his future after the game where he says " I've always been very loyal and committed, i don't know how long i am here but i will continue to be so while i am"
I'm not so sure it's his decision totally if he stays or not but I'm sure he would like to stay if he can.

02 Apr 2017 23:05:08
Gunner foolishly they all thought we would get top four and maybe win fa cup, which would buy them all time but bit by bit the penny is dropping, I think.

03 Apr 2017 10:14:06
He sounds like he's begging to keep his job now.

03 Apr 2017 13:47:12
I have to admit his recent comments certainly sound more like a man trying to convince his employers that he is still worthy of the job rather than just the fans, and they certainly don't sound like comments someone would make if they already knew they had signed a contract extension?

02 Apr 2017 18:08:40
2-2 not enough really a win was needed to give us faint hope, Top4 I think is beyond us really in trying to overtake Both Utd and Liverpool.

Showed some good spells at brief times, but again switched off at vital moments and that midfield of Xhaka and Coquelin did not work atall, both card magnets aswell.

You always felt if City stepped up a gear they could slice through us and score at will, just lucky really that they defensivly were almost as bad.

Fullbacks also are a major weak point defensivly also.

Ozil's work ethic is a disgrace really we can't afford to be a carrying such players. He can go as far as I am concerned if he can't be bothered.

Two fullbacks and better DM are needed as first priority.

02 Apr 2017 18:23:47
Ryan we need to sell ozil, bellerin, xhaka and perez because they may be good players but they aren't premier league players, its to fast and physical for them. We might even get good money for a couple of them and go out and get tougher replacements. Plus a few others but for different reasons. Let hope we get in a new manager that can see that because wenger can't.

02 Apr 2017 18:56:23
Disagree with Perez Steve, this guy is a decent squad player, agree with the rest.

02 Apr 2017 19:11:27
Slo we don't need to buy a squad player, we need players who are playing because they are the best. Not saying he is bad or anything just saying we have plenty of squad players. Squad players don't win you titltes. He is never going to be our first choice and we might get decent money for him.

02 Apr 2017 19:50:10
Yeah Steve R to compete with top teams we need more first teamer's that will actually make difference in big games. Big money signings. Problem is 30Mill only buys you average these days and do you trust Wenger to buy those sort of players. Can he handle and manage a lot of big player ego's doubtful reading the body language of Ozil and Sanchez.

For me we need to get back to basics and first make us atleast hard to beat. So better defensive minded players in central midfield and fullback area's.

I think more than anything we need real leaders on the pitch.

02 Apr 2017 20:00:57
Agree Steve just saying that he is good enough to stay. for me I would add Ramsey on your list. instead of Perez.

02 Apr 2017 20:28:15
Slo, so would i but we do have to keep some. Lol.

02 Apr 2017 20:35:17
Ryan i wouldn't trust wenger with spending 30 mil on a player anymore.

02 Apr 2017 22:46:07
Lets be honest perez will go. He mayaswel start in spain than sit on our bench and I think he's made it clear he wants to go.

02 Apr 2017 17:10:39
Nacho Monreal, Cocolan, out of todays squad and forever, get rid of unwanted players like Jenkinson, Debuchy, Arsen Wenger you've lost the plot you cannot tell which of your players is improving or not, you are incapable of coaching your top players nor even keep them fit. we'll all hate to see you go but it time to fix up or let go, its been 15 years of a mysterious agenda, even with the aspired dream of the Emirate, we became a team that cannot keep their top players only to develop them to be bought by achievable teams where they can win league or possibly champions league trophies, from Henry, V. Parsi Fabrigas, Clichy, Sagna, and even Alex song is allot better player than Cocolan, you can only keep such players because they can't even make it in the Spurs Squad to be honest I think you must be those characters that tends to always do the wrong thing when under pressure cause you're such thick skinned to conceive criticism, which worries me as I don't see you being the one to turn this around. Sucks for arsenal fans.

02 Apr 2017 14:56:14
Does everyone realise that if we win today, we are 5th, 6 points behind 3rd with 2 games in hand.
its not by any means good but certainly not terrible.

Also we still need our good run in 2017, could see us going unbeaten for the rest of the season and taking 2nd.
Last part is probably ridiculous but let's have hope!

02 Apr 2017 17:57:17
Yes but you have to start with a win. Fell at the first hurdle.

02 Apr 2017 00:14:56
Leicester ignore sentimentality after winning the title and replace thier manager and win 5/ 5
Chelsea ignore sentimentality after winning the title and replace thier manager are again running away with the league.
Utd ignore sentimentality after winning the FA cup and replace thier manager then win the league cup plus are in a good position to win the Europa league plus are in the hunt for top 4.
Arsenal continue to let sentimentality rule the day after over a decade without a single title challenge and are going backwards.
Spot the difference.

02 Apr 2017 08:44:03
Spot on.

02 Apr 2017 09:06:44
Morning John n Charlie

We have a squad, just don't have a manger that can gel them together.

02 Apr 2017 11:07:08
G62,

We have won the FA Cup twice, and runner up in the Premier League, in the last 3 years, we are also in the semi final of the FA Cup. We have players that want to leave us, and let's not think it's not about money, despite what we read.

You forgot to mention pep and mopo, but then it doesn't help the Wenger out campaign. Also the league cup (the reserve cup. lol) What you say is very true, we need a change, but I believe we have the man, who needs some help.

I was out last night at an Arsenal do and the majority of season ticket holders, still want wenger there. We talked about twitter, and this site. and I explained that I think it's 60/40 for wenger to go.

i'm at the game today, so I will judge for myself. So let's hope for a great performance and a just result.

02 Apr 2017 11:28:01
Hi Mark mate Arsene has certainly demonstrated​ time and again he just can't organise or motivate his players to get the best out of them, wether those players are good enough or not to win the title is debatable but the fact they continue to totally underachieve each and every season isn't debatable at all its been repeatedly proven to be the truth.
At any other club in the world the man who built the squad and who's job it is to organise and motivate them would be held accountable but not at Arsenal he isn't, at Arsenal he gets to continue as long as he wants to it seems and anyone who doesn't like it players fans who ever have 2 choices, put up and shut up or leave.

02 Apr 2017 12:21:34
Hi Welsh mate
I'm not sure what the split is between Arsene in/ out fans percentage wise as i speak to lots of gooners who are desperate for change but equally i still meet loads who are happy with Arsene and want him to stay even if that means being non competitive, yes some still think Arsene can make us competitive but others are not so convinced of that but just like him being our manager.
To each thier own Welsh mate but I've always been an Arsenal football club fan not any individual player or manager no matter how much i liked them.

02 Apr 2017 12:36:05
Gunner if we had changed our manager at the start of this year, i'm sure we wouldn't any worse off than we are now and i'm sure we would be still in the hunt for top four and fighting.