Arsenal Banter Archive January 02 2013

 

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02 Jan 2013 21:24:28
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger says he will only sign 'exceptional' players in January.

Yes he should buy again .. asharvin/squallici/denilson/bentdner/park...

what a joke both wenger and arsenal are becoming

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02 Jan 2013 21:23:23
I have been told on great authority, from a source very close to another source that Arsene Wenger is going to be fired in the next week or so and none other than Malaga Gooner will be installed as new manager.

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If we can get half the players that Malaga has said we were supposed to be signing over the past 12 months, then bring it on.
Braintreegooner

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03 Jan 2013 07:56:47
Malaga is more of a director of football more than a manager.
Charlie is the one who wants Wengers job

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They will never be seen together........

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02 Jan 2013 21:10:24
about time wenger bought lampard

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£3 million maybe, can still do the job but cup tied!

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02 Jan 2013 21:05:56
This January: We could sell the rubbish, We could buy great players..

..but we would still have a manager who thinks that he needs to sub in Ramsey and Gervinho when we need a creative spark.

Address the real problem. Out with the boss!

Ash

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Got to agree with it tho crappy subs when we had rosiky, gnabry and eisfield no way should rambo or gervinho be anywhere near the pitch nuff said. I dont quite agree with sacking le boss at least wait and see what he does in january.

Baz136.

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02 Jan 2013 20:54:12
We desperately need Yann M'Vila to add some much needed power, stregnth and steel to our midfield. He will give us the fight and determination as well as the bad boy factor that I believe all top teams have to win and grind out matches. Furthermore we our in need of a Vieira figure who won't take no messing and grab the rest of our players by the scruff of the neck when we are struggling. Come on wenger sign him please!

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02 Jan 2013 23:51:34
We need Wanyama from Celtic. We could of had him last Summer but apparently Wenger didnt want to pay the asking price. Now he will probably end up at United and everyone will see what we missed out on.

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Only problem with him was when France played Spain he was invisible. {Ed039's Note - Snap judgement based on one international performance?)

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People made the same snap judgement about m'vila being amazing, just because he was good for france vs england.

Players need to be judged over 1 or even 2 full seasons, to evaluate consistency. M'vila seems to be anything but consistent.

Daniel

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Agree with Daniel. He is also playing in a pretty poor league {Ed027's Note -

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02 Jan 2013 20:27:37
why not get shawcross? typical british player no nonese, 25 yr olds and recently capped by england.... quite a beast if you ask me and his contract is almost up? Arsenal is weakest in defence so why not bring him in along with mvila or wanayma and an experienced keeper

Goon squad

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Doubt him and Ramsey would be best of friends.

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Shawcross nearly ruined Ramseys career. Keep him away from our team.

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That's a great shout, we need a gritty defender so that our ball playing defenders don't keep leaving huge gaps at the back when they both go forward together.

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03 Jan 2013 15:48:07
Besides this being a stupid suggestion he has just signed a new 5 and half year deal at Stoke

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02 Jan 2013 19:27:05
This is what arsenal should do and can afford and realistic Fellini and baines 40m and a winger not a young player nani would be okay if AW can make him run but maybe someone abroad like villa might work would want someone maybe a bit younger need a mata or hazard now yes it's a lot but surely we have 40m to spend plus the sales of dead weight could bring up 20m

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Baines did the exact same as gibbs tonight even though his goal was sheer class.

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02 Jan 2013 19:03:00
why has wenger not bought sturridge or ba..
i think its time for wenger to go and go now

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02 Jan 2013 20:24:54
Because we have enough strikers in the bane of Walcott, Giroud, Podolski and to a lesser extent Chamakh. Sturridge is not a great player - he's too greedy.

Ba would be a great addition but wouldn't move to sit on the bench.

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Is the Sturridge remark a joke ? if not because he has a terrible attitude, has been inconsistent and is more adamant than Walcott that he wants to play through the middle. And the Demba Ba issue has been mentioned countless times on here, he wants huge wages and, his multiple agents also all want big fees enough to stall a move to Chelsea, but there is also the issue with his Knee injury and you have to weigh up his goals against these issues obviously to Wenger there are better options. I wouldn't use these two players not being signed as a reason for Wenger to be sacked.
Will

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Sturridge - not good enough

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Ba I don't mind he is half decent but is not worldclass. But if your saying. Wenger out because he did not waste money on sturridge, you need your head checked we already have crap were trying to flush out why add more.



Eyeball

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Because Sturridge is Rubbish, and Theo is signing a new contract and playing up front hence we will sign a winger.

Have you been asleep for the past two weeks?

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Maybe because Sturridge is crap and Ba has a dodgy knee and even dodgier agents apparently.........

kermit79

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Although i was against it at first im starting to think missing out on BA could be a big mistake, espicially at that price................we spend over 10 million on Gervinho yet have no interest at 7 million for BA and if its true we are going to not pursue Zaha if Wallcot signs then that will be another mistake...........looks like another crappy transfer window for us Gooners!!

1404

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Well he didnt buy sturridge because he is absolutely dreadful, very greedy

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Cos they are not good enough

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Is that you Charlie?

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Why? because sturridge isnt good enough and forget about the 7mil fee for ba, chelsea will be offering him 120, 000 a week minimum.thats why

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02 Jan 2013 18:49:30
B.B.C "arsenal will end intrest in zaha because walcott is on the verge of signing a new contract"

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I don't understand why these two have to be mutually exclusive why can't Walcott stay and Zaha be signed? He looks really talented and it would probably be cheaper to get him now rather than in the summer.
Will

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Because Ba has bad knees and wants huge wages.

Sturridge isn't Arsenal quality. He's somewhat greedy on the ball which wouldn't suit him at Arsenal.

There are better targets.

I for one would love Adrian... That boy is a real talent and at 24 will only improve.

No offense, but Arsene knows best.

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02 Jan 2013 18:41:42
the difference between wengers arsenal and a winning team that wins honours regularly is that wenger is stuck in a rut, players under his wing are always barking on about how he is a father figure...if it was my dad he would have kicked me up the backside and told me to get myself in order and become a winner, encouraging me to be number 1, not believing my own hype.
wenger is too soft with his players and will stubbornly play them week in week out even if they dont perform. there are better players in our reserves imo atm than in our first team. we need players that want to win every ball, attack and play with confidence and play for the badge from the start not in injury time one nil down.
as much as i hate fergie, he doesnt take prisoners..just look at shrek, dropped in an instant if he aint performing, brings in hernandez and 3 points in the bag, doesnt matter how big you are or if your everyones favourite if you aint performing your out. wenger on the other hand picks gervinho ramsey diaby squillaci chamakh and only drops them when we are 20 points behind the leading pack, and then its too late to catch up( its like groundhog day every season, everyone in the stadium and at home knows except for wenger). players like eisfeld ox rosicky yennaris coquelin frimpo may not be the first names people think of but i guarantee they would give 100% along with theos kosci verms wilshere arteta santi gibbs.....more than some of our so called stars who think their positions are god given, but that is down to the mentality wenger has bred into the club...always looking after his favourites even if they dont perform or want to play for the club.
its time to shut up or put up for the players and wenger, if you havent got the balls to pick fighters for the club and decide instead to stick to your old pals act then my friend i think its time to say au revoir, we can still qualify for the champions league if we can find a winning fighting mentality from somewhere, all those early positive thoughts at the start of the season have been blown away because of pathetic performances and bad decisions of a tired and weary manager.

ps: please sort out our puddled defence, let bouldy turn them into the mean machine that he was once part of or get in players that can.

GS

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Walcott is a liability, the lack of real talent and Wengers stubborness are the only reasons he is getting a game.

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Great post mate...spot on.The same thing with Denilson.Everyone could see he wasnt good enough....wasnt a ball winner or creative player....yeah i understand he had a great reputation as a youth player in Brazil......but he couldnt cut in this country.....But for two seasons too long Wenger played him, week in week out.....and then gives him a long contact on 40k-45k per week......Well done for the post.....all people do is talk about signings they think we are gonna make, but you make a great point which is a more deeper issue....km

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02 Jan 2013 18:33:51
Fellaini would be a great signing for us, would be very useful in tough Champions League matches as he can hold the ball up with ease and is great on set pieces (defending and attacking). Our midfield is to small and a monster like Fellaini can dominate games on his own.

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Fellaini would be a great signing for most teams in Europe. What makes you think he'll end up at Arsenal?

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02 Jan 2013 22:56:03
^ His best mate Vermaelen

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02 Jan 2013 18:29:50
Can anyone think of a time that Malaga Gooner has predicted a signing correctly?

"In told..."
"I've been informed..."
"100%...

Paul

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Paul who cares its a rumour site I think he gives people some hope, if you dont like his post don't read them mate

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Yes, when he said Goetze would... Oh wait...never mind
CheetahChaz97

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Reliable source.

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It's not a rumour when it's make believe

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Ahh he harped on about Gotze for 2 seasons. I wonder if we will get any this transfer window.

Northern Gooner

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02 Jan 2013 17:49:41
goooners hope you all had a great festive season..
what do people think about BACARY SAGNA??
obertan made him look like squillaci then at soton his clearance led to the goal...his posture has all been bad always frowning no matter what..
i actually think he is slowly giving up on arsenal and wanting pastures new...
iwarutis

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02 Jan 2013 17:40:22
Im a bit bewildered as to why AW hasnt lined up the players for the January window... he has already said that we would be active in the market, all well and good, bringing the players in (if we get them) at the end of the window will give less settling time.....

N.Wales Gunner

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He says he is active every window. Honestly, this season he will be just as unproductive as any other...

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Not just active but wait for it only exceptional signings to boot !

paul

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He is active and unproductive in every window (or so he tells us), as he tries to lowball everyone not realising that it is not a buyer market.

Ash

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How do you know what's happening behind the scenes, you guys need to just sit tight, instead of rubbishing the manager of THE CLUB I LOVE.....!! instead of idle chit chat gossip....in arsene i trust!!!


stockers8

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Stockers 8, we ALL love the football club, i was just asking, we all know the squad is lacking, surely AW does too, so why is it there are no deals already lined up to get the players in ASAP, fixtures piling up, we need the players to integrate as soon as possible

N. Wales Gunner

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02 Jan 2013 17:46:43
APPARENTLY Walcott has signed a 4 year deal for 90, 000 per week. Have no idea if it's true or not but let's hope it is.

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02 Jan 2013 17:37:11
A striker who could help us in the PL is Garry Hooper. Great finisher and has been compared to Shrek.

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Maybe Celtic don't wont to sell or maybe Hooper fancies playing in the CL next year.

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02 Jan 2013 17:20:11
Isco looks like he'll be joining Madrid

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02 Jan 2013 17:15:16
watford what djorou

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Is this a cryptic message?

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Slough why ramsey.

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02 Jan 2013 17:13:13
What I don't get is people want Arshavin to leave when he has something that the clown Gervinho doesn't have... SKILL, and the potential to change a match. He IMO is a much better player than Gervinho yet he doesn't even get into the match day squad! Ridiculous tactics from Le Professeur.
CheetahChaz97

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Totaly agree, Arshavin has the ability to change a game when he comes on. His weakness is defemding but if we need a goal hes the sub u need. Just look what he did to Barca, changed the game.

Detroit Gooner

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But they are both rubbish mate

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Calling Arshavin"rubbish" is not just wide of the mark, it's disrespectful.

Does he deserve to start? Probably not. But class is permanent and he still has the ability to come on and change the game.

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We would be better off without them both, that simple!

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Ive seen him come on few times but can't think of many games he has changed to be fair

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02 Jan 2013 17:08:01
Arsenal defence sucks. Not one of them would get near a top CL team. Until the defence is cleared out Arsenal will continue to be trophyless.

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Sagna best RB in PL just had 2-3 off games. Mertersacker has 80+ caps for Germany. Vermaelen is belguim captain. Didnt Barcelona want Koscielny before he signed new deal? Gibbs still young showing lots of potential. 3rd best defence in league. Buzz off bitter spud

Detroit Gooner

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Sagna looks disillusioned. Merts trading on past glories now too slow, Verm totally overated, Kos error prone, Gibbs do me a favour. The fact that you jump to their defence (no punn intended) speaks volumes for you soccer boy.

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02 Jan 2013 20:02:08
Arsenal are a top CL team....

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Soccer boy good one, I chuckled there. How about you leave a name next time. We certainly have a CL worthy defence. Man U have a poor defence atm, yet they never seem to be slated. Sagna, Vermaelen and Mertersacker are all class players. Everyone has off games now and then but over last year Kos has been very consistent.

Detroit Gooner

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02 Jan 2013 17:01:17
So at the cheaper end of the striking scale Sturridge signs for Liverpool and Chelsea will out bid us for Ba. At the tasty end of the scale no top class striker will be interested in an uncompetitive wage and a diminishing chance of CL football. Should Theo decide to follow RVP - the striking options are looking ominous. As for the recent signings, Giroud - too slow, Podolski - so impressive he's not even played as a striker.

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Which one of the 7 are you?


I know, happy?

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02 Jan 2013 16:38:11
The sincere amount of bs that Malaga Gooner posts on here is absolutely ridiculous, Walcott will be signing a new deal.

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02 Jan 2013 16:31:16
Malaga Gooner, who do u reckon is definitely coming in and who is definitely going? Much appreciated.
CheetahChaz97

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Dont encourage him, no one knows, and if you want rumours search the net like the rest of us.

Malaga, Im not sure why you feel the need to bs so much.

While I appreciate the nature of the site, there are those of us who participate out of sincerity.

Do us all a favour and use common sense before posting, you embarass the intergrity of the site with your non sensical garbage!

Gunners4Life, In AW we trust

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02 Jan 2013 16:26:05
Russian media reports that PSV Eindhoven want to loan Arshavin for the rest of the season!

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02 Jan 2013 16:59:43
if thats true then i would try and get strootman in

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No dice unless its linked to Strootman...

Boisey

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02 Jan 2013 16:21:29
Last season and the season before I spoke about how Sagna may be a good defender but going forwards he is usually poor - no goals, no assists, he doesn't play any forwards or mids through on goals, his performances are robotic and he is too predictable. Great defender on his day but we are a team who use attacking wing backs and he is poor in attack, usually. obviously some game he is great and he certainly has had one or two great games going forward this season but they are rare.

I raised this point last year - wasn't met with much approval, which was fine. Then he broke his leg, and when he came back he was shocking. It took him 3 prem games to reach any kind of recognisable standard.

I mentioned the point again in the summer - what about a new first choice RB who actually plays the way we need? Feedback was way less one-sided in his favour that time.

I wonder what people's thoughts are now? This is not needless slating of a player, i am just asking whether people feel we need an improvement down the right? I feel first and foremost that Jenko got his call up for a reason and when Sagna returned from injury he should never have just walked back into the team, that was shocking from Wenger. Our defence at that moment was the strongest in the league! IF IT AINT BROKE DON'T FIX IT WENGER.

The only thing that has irked me more than Jenko being dropped (and subsequently lost his confidence again, seen some nervy performances in the few appearances he's made since Sagna's return) is that Sagna has been, on the whole, really bad.

Some will say that's an over-exaggeration after yesterday's game - I disagree. I think it's a pretty objective review of that which he has failed to achieve - namely, defend well, and be a threat going forwards.

The fact that Southampton can field a 17 yr old boy against a Champions League team and have him outclass Sagna in every department says it all. We are lacking.

So, it would be interesting to see who now still thinks s Sagna is the best RB in the league, a title I think he has not deserved for at least a season before this one now, and who of you think perhaps we need to start looking for a new first team and champions league right back to rival the world's best.

Opinions?

Metal Gooner

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02 Jan 2013 17:00:50
Sagna scored last season against Spurs, did he not?

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Fully agree regarding Sagna, WAS absolute quality for a fair few seasons, but has slowly been producing inadequate displays over the last few years, AW should never have dropped Jenkinson, first England call up was fully justified but now as you say his confidence isnt quite there... I think we have missed a trick with Debuchy, i think Newcastle are going to get themselves a bargain if im honest. Maybe Dario Srna as an outside bet??

N. Wales Gunner

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The odd goal here and there does not a strong attacking wing back make.

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Would i like to replace sagna with somebody better? of course. but before that, i'd like first us to get a better back-up left back, a better back-up goalkeeper, a couple midfielders and maybe a forward.

sagna hasn't been the player he used to be, i admit that. and he has never been an exciting goal-scoring full back. he's been a rather boring player actually. but sometimes boring players are good! sagna used to be defensively the best no doubt. not the best going forward but i didn't really care. and he always made the overlap we needed and kept the game wide. it was enough for me and it would still be.

but like i said he hasn't been the same anymore. the last two games for him have been bad. but still he's easily one of the best players here. would i give jenko a start next game? yes. would i be happy having sagna as a back-up? of course.

the point is, we could replace sagna and play either that new rb or jenkinson as a first choice rb. but when you look at other areas, right back is one of the strongest we have.

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The RB solution is simple: start Jenkinson until Sagna picks it up. If he doesn't, reevaluate and move on.

Either way, his replacement is already here.

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Iceman I know what you're saying, in that there are far greater priorities for sure. I just worry that Jenko can't get a game at the moment.

I also find it remarkable that Meade hasn't had a game after showing us all how exciting a player he could be.

And Eisfeld.

And....

LOL

Metal Gooner

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02 Jan 2013 16:20:54
What's wrong with wenger Walcott ain't the answer to all our prayers we should get ba and zaha why not

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Because other who are interested are in a position to outbid us1

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02 Jan 2013 16:19:29
The fact that Gervinho makes the bench is so annoying, first Arsenal p, ayer in a long time I actually hate.

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02 Jan 2013 18:31:03
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Yawn! He was excellent earlier in the year, when he had a run in the team. Remember when everyone was slating Theo..... oh, now everyone is desperate for him to say.... anyone learnt a lesson? Seems not.

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02 Jan 2013 16:18:46
According to the Evening Times, Eurosport and a lot of other sources Theo signed a new 4-year deal. Should be announced soon!:) yay!:) i am so looking forward to who Wenger will bring in!:)

Oh and it is nearly done, that Djourou will be loaned to Hannover!:) their president confirmed their interest officially to the media!:) looks like there will be some movement this january!:)

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02 Jan 2013 16:10:35
Tbh I don't think there's anything wrong with wenger nor his team selection, but I think the team is lacking a player who can produce "a moment of brilliance", all the teams have one(messi, RVP, Aguero, tevez, silva, Fellani, Suarez, Bale, Ronaldo) I think you've got my point, and In all honesty I don't think its theo 14 for us...

When Wenger bought Gevinho I think that's what he was trying 2 do, before you all start slamming me let me explain. Gevinho is fast and tricky but the only problem is that he is total dross and he thinks inside the box ie he would never attempt an overhead kick.

Now on to the transfer market, what Wenger should be looking at is a player like Cavani or Falcao, I would favour Cavani thou because this guy just pulls goals out of his arse..... He's fast, tricky and thinks out of the box, don't get me wrong Falcao is realy good and would fit perfectly into our team but I think falcao is an overpriced cavani.

We really don't need anymore midfielders, we've got a plethora of these and any combination of them would see us through any game imo..

Thanks for reading guys its bin a while since my last post....

The cannon sweet

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02 Jan 2013 17:04:46
Good post but there are four players we need to challenge and they are Cavani, Wanyama, Ben Arfa and a solid monsterous defender who takes no nonsense, and honestly one of them who would have to be considered is Shawcross.

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Fellaini? LOL

We have Santi Cazorla....

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Was santi cazorla not the person brought in to do that job the player who goes missing most games

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02 Jan 2013 15:43:11
Is anyone else a bit worried about the signings we're linked with Right now?

We need a striker.
But we have two being misused!

I'd love go see us go two up top, with Theo playing off Giroud/Podolski!

If we sign Adrian, who's a striker/Winger, we're just buying another utility player.
Don't get me wrong, I like the look of Adrian, but he's going to cost at least £10m, his release is £14.75m I think, but there's thought he'd be allowed to leave for less.

Why not take £14m and buy an out and out winger!?
Arsenal need a winger.

Look at our combined LW and RW, the players we've played there;

Walcott - Striker
Podolski - Striker
Arshavin - CAM
Rosicky - CAM
AOC - CAM
Ramsey - should play nowhere near a wide area
Gervinho - rubbish.

We just don't have a winger.
So either we adapt to it, I'd say 4-3-1-2 with full backs providing width, Santi tucked in behind Theo and Podolski/Giroud and a trio of Arteta, Wilshere and AOC in midfield, Arteta as the pivot, and Wilshere and AOC either side, making drives forward, supporting the full backs.

Or just buy a winger!
£14m we'll (prospectively) use for Adrian, put in for players like Antoine Griezmann, Mathieu Valbeuna, Nico Gaitan.
I know it's easy to say it, or write it on paper, and I think it's safe to say none of us are professional Managers or Agents!
So we only have the outside, Basic view of what "happens" but that's my opinion as a fan.

On a positive note, how pleasing is it to see Wilshere play?
He's almost instantly hit the level he left at.
He never gives up, never drops his head, passes like a spaniard, dribbles like a Brazillian and fights like an Englishman.
If, and I hope not, Vermalen left in the near future, there only one man for the captaincy.

D

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02 Jan 2013 14:51:51
Just out of interest, out of all those who have turned their back on Arsenal in recent years, RVP, Nasri etc who do you resent the most or in some cases dont blame them for leaving. Some you may not consider to be trecherous but in order of most hated mine are...

1. Van Persie
2. Adeybayor
3. Na$ri
4. Cole
5. Gallas
6. Clichy
7. Fabregas (still love him)

Adebayor seems to be a forgotten one, left for money to PL rivals, criticised the club, mocked the fans and then moves to Spurs. Still not quite as bad as RVP turing on us after years making him into the best striker around (After Messi). I dont blame Fabregas at all, i would have done the same in his situation. Cole, Clichy and Nasri just mercenaries.

Detroit Gooner

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I resent every single one of them including cry baby Fabregas. They all knew what they were signing up for. Some decided to run their contracts down in order to gain the upper hand in transfer negotiations and others decided to play the emotional card. That fact is they are all mercenaries every single one of them, hence the reason why Wenger had a pop shot at all of them by saying that it was easier getting loyalty from british players.

Naz

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You know, it sounds crazy, but one of the ones which bothered me the most was Hleb.

He was outstanding for us in his last two seasons, then he got lured to Barca, flopped there, and now plays for B.A.T.E (if I remember right?)
I think if he'd of stayed at arsenal, a few of the others would of too, and they'd just of got better.

Don't forget, Hleb, Cesc, Flamini and Rosicky were great friends, and played well together.

On a positive note, see Alex Song has already been voted worst signing in la Liga so far?

I feel an (immature) trolololol is in order.

D

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I dont blame nasri, cesc, robin or ashley. They have all won, or will win something elsewhere.

Adebayor, not bothered about. I wasnt a fan when he was with us, and im still not a fan.
Gallas is quite impressive, I thought he was finished when he was with us, but he is still going...so fair play to him.

I rated clichy at Arsenal, I thought the number of times he played very well, far outnumbered his average/poor performances. He made a few costly mistakes..but our entire defence is doing that at the moment, so how much can you really blame him?

Im bitter about the loss of flamini, Im sorry Henry didnt stay with us 1 more season before going to win the CL with barca, and im sorry we replaced gilberto silva with denilson, an absolutely pathetic replacement.

I'l be even more sorry if Walcott leaves us this window, not because of him, but because of how inept our club is at retaining talent.

To be fair though...top 4 is a lot to be thankful for...isn't it?

Daniel

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RVP for sure.......utter disgrace.

And i wont have a bad word said about Cesc, Naz you are a fool my son.

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The only player i would take back out of that list is Fabregas, can you really blame him for leaving? Yes, it has to be said the way in which he left soiled his reputation but he stayed and stuck with us for a good 7 years, playing consistently well for most of them. Unlike Nasri (good 6 month spell) Adebayor (1 good season) and Van Persie (amazing 18 month spell).

This new core of British players (hoping walcott will join them) will stay together for next 4 years at least. Wenger knows what he is doing, this new crop will all be world class one day. Could of signed Phil Jones, Henderson, Sturridge... who will only ever be average.

Detroit Gooner

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1404,

1.why wont you have anything bad said about Cesc? Is it coz he stood their smiling like a kid in a sweet shop while they threw a barca shirt over his neck? Or maybe because he said AFC and AW were inept of any form of tactical knowledge? Or is it because of the vast amount of trophies he didn't win for us? Wake up sonny boy, he used AFC like a stepping stone to further his potential then emotionally blackmailed the club into selling him, just like RVP with his letter to the fans. Good riddance to them all.

2. Not a fool, just saying it as it is SON.

Naz

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Cesc's situation was different to the rest and i dont care what you say, he stuck around a lot longer than most and i dont believe for one minute his move was motivated in the slightest by money whatsoever, he went home to his boyhood club to play with possibly one off the best teams the game has seen..........thats why he went to Barca so please dont put him in the same bracket as RVP, Clichy , Song , Nasrior the others because what they did was vastly different.

1404 {Ed039's Note - Great post, I always thought it wrenched at Fabregas to leave Arsenal, but growing up as a Barca fan, it must have been impossible to not want to play in THAT team)

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Thanks ed39 its appreciated.

on a side note, i also dont think we have seen the last of Cesc in an Arsenal shirt.

1404

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02 Jan 2013 14:32:01
I don't really get what happened yesterday.

Why did we play like w were terrified of a bottom team?

We did we play like we couldn't be bothered?

Why did we take off Podolski? He made one bad pass sure, but Sagna made all the effort to get to the ball and then passed it into our box instead of putting his foot through, I mean this is apparently a world class RB 'best in the league' international star playing like a child!

Why did we keep Sagna on? He couldn't pass, couldn't cross, couldn't beat a man, he was dire. We had Coquelin, a guy who wants game time and who has shown time and time again he is a great wing back especially going forward, sitting on the bench. We needed the points desperately, we were in a position where we were chasing the points, we bring on Giroud and take off Podolski who is responsible for many of his assists, and we keep on Sagna who couldn't do anything. I remember Da Silva having a shocker for about 33 mins for Man U and Fergie said enough is enough and took him off Why does Wenger not do this? iS Coquelin so bad he isn't given a shot against Southampton even though he dominated Fulham and Blackburn in that position last season? He's faster than Sagna too and has more skill!

Sorry but any player who plays that badly at a top club should be brought off.

Also when you're chasing a game, which we were, you need talent and experience to get the job done. Why the hell did Gervinho and Ramsey come on?

Absolute joke that a post comes through on here begging us to chuck them on and on they go - says it all.

Yesterday the players were mostly to blame but so was Wenger, for sure. Coquelin on Sagna off - no more defensive issues. Coquelin defends like a good Sagna, has the engine of Jenko and is like a winger going forward. Ox or Theo off Rosicky on. Not Santi off! Theo off Giroud on.

Totally different game. We keep our width, we take off the 3 most ineffective players of the day and simultaneously add two dimension - the wide attacking for the crosses into the box, but also the drive through the midfield. Not to mention getting Sagna off.

Poor all round, Ramsey and Gervinho on to change a game is simply a joke.

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02 Jan 2013 14:23:41
Remember how dissapointed we were when Nuri Sahin chose to go on loan to Liverpool over us? Well it seems they want to send him back early, had to chuckle!

If anyone needs any help with 'hating' rvp, there is a clip on the DM website which includes him admitting to throwing the Arsenal contract offer straight in the bin, even though it would have made him the highest paid player we ever had, then mentioning how he has doubled his wages at Man Utd.

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Think that is a joke that vid

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02 Jan 2013 14:12:46
One thing I love about Koscielny is not only doe he work immensely hard, but he gets the ball, gets his head up and is always looking to drive us forward from the back, he carries it forward and is always looking for a strong forward pass.

I thought he had a great game the other day, neither he nor Verm were responsible for the goals we conceded in the 7-3 game, which is a nice change.

Anyone slating Koscielny for his last few displays should take a look at themselves. He's been a refreshing inclusion to be honest - he was mr consistent for an entire season too. He's had hardly any game time this season. Against newcastle he was great and in fairness if Jack had manned up we wouldn't have conceded from Ba' freekick, it was hit straight at him. Who's slating Jack? he's done zero defending this season but nobody says a thing because it's Jack.

Sagna had a weak game against Newcastle, kept getting rinsed by blooming Obertan, had his worst ever game for us imo against Saints and was a total embarrassment. A top manager would have taken him off, also will drop him for the next game. This won't happen. Sagna has been terrible all season apart from a handful of games and we all know jenko should never have been dropped.

Nick you say he's allowed a bad game here and there but i am actually tired of seeing Sagna have a bad game and anyone who isn't biased can see he's having a very poor season by his standards.

Whether he's tired or lacking bother who knows. i for one look forward to change of personnel down the right, there are equally talented younger fitter players who will put in a bigger shift who could play there but who are playing for weaker clubs. I think Sagna can be a great player but he's been weak this season and if he goes to Inter in the summer I won't really care tbh, we always ship goals with Sagna and we aren't exactly revolutionary going forward with him in the team - how many assists does he have again? Or goals? He must be one of the lowest-scoring/assisting RBs in a set up like ours in the world.

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02 Jan 2013 13:59:47
Team looked jaded last night, it was the perfect opportunity for rotation I just think what the hell does it say to our young guns if they cant be trusted against Southampton. Look at who had bad games and look at who they could have been replaced with to give the team fresh legs sagna

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02 Jan 2013 13:11:27
Re AG's comments, I fully agree. No AW, they were not expecting to score another 7, how can you with such a team YOU selected. There is no motivation, no desire, no passion and that is why we can NEVER compete with the MU's. They have the mindset of 'we will beat any team, and NEVER give up'. We have one great result and immediately sit back believing we only have to turn up. No, your plan A didn't work, and, as I've commented several times before, we do not have a plan B! If using Ramsey, Gervinho et al, we have no hopes of progressing. I agree with many of the comments, your tendency to buy utility players is WRONG. We require top class players for A position not a jack of all trades, this idea is why we are in the mess we are in. Again, I will belive it when I see it, but all this bull**** about money to spend is garbage, we all know you will never pay the going rate for a player YOU KNOW we desperately need, consequently we end up with average players who are not fit to wear the shirt! We need someone to come in and ensure those without the passion and the will to win are history, irrespective of who they think they are.

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02 Jan 2013 12:52:53
Haven't been o the site for a while and I am shocked how everyone thinking were going to have a productive transfers firstly Wenger said he will only sign exceptional players and on the basis that I've seen on the site there is on player that fits the bill which is m'm'villa as he is talented young and will fit into the team all the zaha rumours is a bit BS. Maybe zaha is a really good prospect he looks a real star but when i hear wenger say exceptional players zaha doesnt come to mind neither does lopez, llorente (i think he is good but no reason when we have grioud they are built the same and grioud hasnt worked so far). There were more average players we have been linked to and it us like this every transfer market i want to see our team buy quality players that will help the team now players such as turan, nani, lewondiski, gotze, rues these are the attacking options we should be going for. My ideal end to this month would be:
In's- turan/nani
Luke shaw understudy for gibbs
Begovic/reina
M'villa
Out's
Squllaci
Arshavin
Santos

As for a centre foward i think we should seriously give walcott a chance and keep on swaping with grioud and have chamakh and gervinho on the reserves waiting for injuries one reason being i dnt think we can buy class striker in jan we jus do not have the funds therefore we need to just and try to bring in one major striker in the summer.
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The problem is players that are exceptional cost 30+mill. Wenger won't pay that so we won't buy anyone. Same old TW for us. Le prof wants to buy a star for cheap but he won't get any for this. We are only buying average players for 10-15mill. not world class. Except santi.

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02 Jan 2013 12:27:57
Have just read the clog wearing dutchmans comments from the weekend, I don't normally let these things get to me but need to vent some anger!

It is one thing that he wanted to leave, and another thing that it was to them but why does he feel that he has to have a 'dig' at us still?

He claims that it is 'easier' to score for them as he is surrounded by 'winners', what does that mean? Did he not score just as many for us in the one season that he was'nt being paid to keep the physio's table warm? Does it mean that he is not trying as hard up there?

All I know is that he is behaving like we made him leave, have some class man and remember that we supported you for 7 seasons whilst you were injured for the most part, we offered you a huge amount of money to stay, and if you had of stayed we may be top of the league right now.


Sorry guys, rant over.

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Wait till you see his video mocking the contract offer....

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Hmmm, i understand to an extent why you feel this way but when will Arsenal fans stop looking outwards and start looking inwards?

You're RVP - you're at the 5th richest club in the world, but a club are making literally zero effort to achieve anything of note by way of financing world class signings. You know you're surrounded by poor or underperforming players with a tactically inept manager who seems determined, until this season to be fair, to make things as hard for us as possible week in week out with his lack of tactics, worsening coaching, and team selections/subs.

You're the 3rd best striker on the planet, at a club who not only will not surround you with the talent you deserve, but will not even LISTEN. Yes we built a stadium, fine. But we did it in a way where we decided to finance by selling world class players and signing cheaper alternatives, simple as that. So yes maybe our debt is under control but we now have a squad full of jokers, has-beens, flops and over-paid pansies.

Then, a team full of talent comes in for you and offers you an escape, baring in mind you know it's not going to change. Do you hang around? No, of course not. They could have offered him 50p a week and he'd probably have left because he is a with no medals.

This is the club's fault, even if the motives are respectable. It's not of RVP's making no matter which way you look at it. People talk about RVP owing us - why? Look at his goal record! He scored 1 in two games every season before last year. He only had one season where he played hardly any games. Why should he owe us? He repaid us every time he walked onto the pitch. He scored more goals in most of his half seasons for us than most strikers do in the league in 46 games so someone tell me how he owes us anything? Players like Theo owe us - a guy who has consistently under-performed for the best part of 6 years. We invested a lot of time and money in him, we have let countless better wingers go ignored when we needed them because Theo had a squad place, and we've suffered for it. Theo owes us. RVP was magical when he played.

So he's looking back at his time with us thinking why did I waste so long? Injured or not, he deserved to be in a squad where there was another world class striker, winger, a defensive mid better than Song ffs. There are coaching issues, wage issues, transfer issues - and we as fans are allowed to say what we like but the guy who single-handedly got us to third last season who has always scored double-figures for us pretty well, has no say? Talk about double standards. I understand why people get worked up about RVP but he has every right to say what he wants, perhaps for once we as fans and the club itself needs to stop being so precious and actually accept that he is right and maybe if we did things differently players like him would not even consider moving to our rivals.

If AFC actually bothered to listen and understand why he and others leave, maybe we might make perfectly doable changes to the way we operate that would mean we would keep these stars.

And performances like yesterday exemplify the reasons why he left - he goes to Wigan, a team who often outplay us, knowing he WILL win the game, th only question is within how many minutes and how many goals. We go to teams like Wigan and Southampton and we actually do not believe it is a guaranteed win, it's almost embarrassing. RVP will have seen our game and it will have simply backed up his desire to leave. It's embarrassing, performances like that should result in the players and manager being docked their week's wages and any feedback anyone gives the club or media should be heeded or we will never learn. So if it comes from RVP's mouth I couldn't care less, he's right.

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Just seen it on the DM site........

Now i'm turning green and my shirt has ripped...... oh maybe I just ate too many Brussels at xmas.

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02 Jan 2013 11:10:30
twitter has been heating up more than usual lately with news that theo has agreed personal terms with the club for around 85-90k a week. arsenal will announce the news within two weeks.

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The only reason they will announce it in 2 weeks time, is so that they have less time (and therefore less pressure) in the transfer window to buy someone.

Would not be a surprise would it.

Daniel

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02 Jan 2013 10:53:20
"ARSENE WENGER slammed his players' mental strength after a sinful display against the Saints."

There your buys, its time for you to go so the club can get out of this rut... same with the board.

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Doesnt work when you dont cheat by getting games cancelled does it

newcastle with 9 players missing having played3 days before were all over you till they inevitably tired.

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To the bitter Spurs fan who posted above, I suppose we also poisoned your lasange a few years ago that cost you 4th place?

I was at the game and don't recall Newcastle being "all over us". They were never in the lead and while they had the better of the first half it was still 1-1.

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02 Jan 2013 10:47:14
I'm a little worried that we will be short of cover when Gervinho goes to ACN, I think I have a solution:

I have an 8 year old Labrador called Buster, he's a little over weight but still run's Ok, his ball control really can't be any worse and he is not cup tied so could play in the champions league.

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We only sign players of EXCEPTIONAL quality remember, if you rate buster as EXCEPTIONAL as Chamakh, Gervinho, Squillaci, Santos and Park then he is in..........is he left, left footed or right , right footed or left, right footed or can he play with all 4 ? im actually getting a little excited about this signing now.......top 4 here we come !

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He's ambidextrous (spelling) which means he can play Left, right or Left Left Left Right Left, He's also better looking than Gervinho, but the only problem is if he see's a female in the crowd he's off!

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How can you have a dig at Park, he played 2 games and score once. He might have been as good as Eduardo given the chance.

Detroit Gooner

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Unless i see youtube videos of him tail-poking the ball in like a true poacher, i will not trust this rumour...unless Malaga can change my mind.

psychocyst.

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Hilarious that people disagreed with my post...........comedy people !!

1404

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I hear your dog and Gervinho go to the same hairdresser!

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How dare you compare busters hair to Gervinhos!

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02 Jan 2013 10:37:41
I know it sounds like a longshot now, But if we manage to get Henry back on loan, Pop him upfront with Walcott, Let Theo see how a real striker should play. Maybe give him some lessons.

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My feeling is if Theo signs Henry may come back on lone to help out, if Theo does not sign he will be sold and we will bring in a ready made goal scorer and there will be no need for TH14 to return.

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Henry is training with Arsenal anyway, Theo can learn in training, where he is supposed to.

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Wenger has said Henry won't be coming

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02 Jan 2013 08:53:07
all these rumours./....aint we gotta sell before we buy??/

stockers8

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I say give a few players away if we can't sell them!

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02 Jan 2013 08:42:53
Koscielny is massively overrated by us, he is shocking! Much rather have Mertersacker

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He would make a great DM in my opinion
paul

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Since Mertasaker has arrived his game has apperad to have gone downhill.

He was one of our most consistent best performers the season before. I still think he is good defender just has maybe had a confidence knock and it does not help as a CB when you dont start regular as with CB's it all about the partnership. You can look bad indivdually if your understanding with you fellow CB is not as it should be through lack of game time

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Really? Both Kos and Merts are very good CB's, but very different players. I hardly think you can slate Koscielny from stepping in for one game which the whole team played poorly.

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The only reason kosci is playing average is because he is rusty not had a regular run in team
He has been our best defender the past season
GS

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If pepe can be utilised as a DM by mourinho when real are short of players, then I dont see why we cant use kosc. he is fast, he is determined, and he can carry the ball well. He fights more than every player we have.

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Kos is a better defender than TV5 it's only that he's been made captain he's not been dropped. Our best Center back partnership is Kos and Per IMO.

I'd love to see TV given a game or 2 at DM?

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02 Jan 2013 06:04:41
Hi Ed

first wishing u a very happy and prosperous New Year.

But the same was not as prosperous for the Gunners. What a pathetic performance. ST outclassed arsenal in every department. why gervinio started. AW should have started with both walcott and Giroud. He should use Giroud in the same way as David Moyes is using Fellaini. I think he can be our answer to Fellaini. Both play similarly and do defensive duties well. This is what Arsenal lack , consistency. how is Man utd. able to win day in day out. I know RVp is the reason, but still i feel we have much better midfield and defence.

this was an ideal match where he should have used Thomas Eisfield.

He needs a Cavani or if cavani is not available go for strikers who can actually replace RVP . Not Adrian lopez or some rubbish .... buy reus, schurrle, he can buy higuain as he is not currently starting for Real Madrid, llorentte is also be great as he plays like RVp. Drops back to midfield and assists the midfield as well. he also has a very good technique and capable to score volley gals which RVp was able to do successfully last year.


plz let me know why we currently suck !! it breaks my heart. We dont have depth in the squad which is essential to win the title. Santiago is playing well but being the first season he currently is still getting used to Epl competitiveness and also demanding as compared to la liga . He is used to winter break but in the Epl this period is the most hectic. matches come and go thick and fast. this why certain matches require rotation. but to do that you need depth the squad so that when you replace with other players they should be at the same level in terms of technique and skill.

Also one more what has happened to Sagna , last two matches he i think had an awefull match. Never seen him playing like this why ? does he want to leave? i think there is something wrong ! what do you think abt this ? i think next match let him be on bench and give jenkinson to start . also why AW does not use coqulin , more often , he is very good tackler and does win the ball back. instead he uses ramsey ! unless you give lad a chance regularly he will eventually improve as well or atleast send him on loan to an Epl side where he gets regular starts and play almost every match. He did this with JW. and see he result. otherwise we will loose a very good player as man utd lost pogba. Ed please reply to these questions and what is your opinion


Gooner stats {Ed002's Note - Cavani is not an option for Arsenal at this time. Higuain has been injured, hence not starting. Lopez is a very real target. And happy new year.}

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This is an interesting post - apart from the Gervinho thing as he didn't start the game.

I was thinking abou the similarities between Giroud and Fellaini as well, but realistically I don't think Giroud could pull of what Fellaini does for Everton as he isn't as quick with his feet. There's no question Giroud is the strongest player we have at holding the ball up and winning it in the the air though. Our problem is we have players who seem to need to play alongside others to get the best out of them. Tevez, Dzeko, Aguero, these guys can all play on their own and are amazing no matter who plays alongside, but with us it's always 'Giroud would be best if x and Y were playing' - same is said about Theo. This tells me they aren't the all-round players we need.

As for the game yday, I thought the whole thing was shocking. Sagna is having more and more bad games these days, he's no longer reliable and he always get beaten down the line, hardly prevents crosses these days. It's worrying. Maybe he doesn't want to be here anymore, maybe he is feeling the age thing/fitness thing, who knows. All I know is that he is becoming a very boring, predictable player and for me doesn't offer enough in either defence or attack at the moment.

As for the subs - well all I will say is we didn't bring off our worst players, we didn't bring on the best, and the one player we needed wasn't even on the bench. Rosicky, Jenkinson/Coquelin and Giroud should have come on, Theo and The Ox and Sagna should have come off.

As for signings, I agree in terms of the calibre of players we should be going for. I have not seen much from Lopez but one thing we badly lack is a striker who will pick the ball up, run with it, beat players and bang it in - a Defoe/tevez type. We haven't signed a striker like this in living memory and there are loads of the in spain playing for broke clubs. Why we're even interested in players like Llorente, Lopez etc is anyone's guess because B52, Chamkah, Giroud are all similar.

The worst thing of all is even a player like Puncheon would improve us! People will no doubt balk at that but who here can honestly say that The Ox has been anywhere near as good this season? That guy is fast, he is nippy, he always beats players, he can cross, and he scores. He and Southampton have given so many top defences a headache, it's their defending that lets them down, we all know that, so those who can admit that yet say Puncheon has been less dangerous than Podolski or The ox need their head checked!

What we lack is basic stuff. We don't need a Nani. We just need a wide player we can rely on to come in, beat a man, and get a shot off or cross it.

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02 Jan 2013 05:52:47
anyone else thinking jenkinson should be starting ahead of sagna at the moment? I do like sagna and everything he has done for the club, but he has seemed almost unmotivated especially against soton. He gave the ball away many times and his avg clearance lead to their goal!

podolskiing

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I have been quite impressed with jenkinson he is big and strong at leftback, but ok a few little errors but a least he has some heart and balls and when he go's up the flank he likes to have a shot and good one's at that. he has the will to win not like the rest..

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02 Jan 2013 05:43:27
Sagna had a terrible game today, but those of you who think we should sell him are being ridiculous.

One of the best right backs in the league, if not the best, and you want to have him sold after a bad display or two...

Get a grip guys.

Nick.

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Sagna is allowed one bad game because he has not had many if any, maybe he is leaving?? psg sniffing or is he just given up like the rest if wenger can't motivate get someone who can.

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I think sagna looked knackered. full back is a tough position. sagna and gibbs support attacks heavily and also have to track back so no wonder they make mistakes when they play many games in short time. sagna has had two leg breaks too and he's nearing 30 so his stamina may not be as good as it used to be. solution: play jenkinson too!

iceman

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Hes been slated because in the last 3-4 games hes just looked like he cannot be bothered at all. Some blame could be placed on Wenger for not dropping him in place of the young, eager Jenkison. Sagna needs to be reminded his 1st team place is not guarenteed.

Detroit Gooner

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I think we should go after Micah Richards, can play at CB as well.

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02 Jan 2013 04:48:19
We should get Zaha irrespective of whether Walcott stays or not....

DG

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Totally agree, but only at the right price and if Arshavin/Chamahk leaves. I wouldnt pay more than £12m for him. However he is a quality player. Not afraid to beat a man and go on a run, but can he do this in the PL? I believe like Ox he can develope and after a year he will be 1st team worthy.

Also we need Wingers who actually want to play there. Ox and Arshavin want to play CAM whilst Podolski, Walcott (and possibly Gervihio) all want to play as a Striker.

Detroit Gooner

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02 Jan 2013 04:06:00
Sometimes i think the definition of the word Versatile is
someone who hasn't mastered one position.
There's no question where you'de play a Bergkamp or an Henry. You wouldn't want Wright on the wing ( well only if he was replacing Gervinio. Sorry, couldn't help it.) So no more players brought in with their versatility in mind please Mr Wenger. Preferably ones that are just CLASS in one position would do very nicely thankyou.

Every time I type Bergkamp I let out a little sigh. OH THE GOOD OLD DAYS. When we would go to a Southampton and others and piss all over them on a weekly basis. I'll leave it there. My bottom lip is starting to go.
UP THE GOONERS. Flybo

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I was thinking the exact same thing the other day Flybo!

We have no CLASS defensive mid no CLASS winger and no truly CLASS striker.

We have a lot of Jacks of some trades and masters of none.

Tired of seeing strikers on the wing, rubbish on the bench, and poor form players playing over hungrier as good performers desperate for game time.

Maybe in 10 years things will be different!

Metal Gooner

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02 Jan 2013 02:43:21
We will be out the FA cup at the weekend because Swansea will hammer us then see how you life long gooner fans like that, ohhh its ok im a life long fan so are we but get a grip you just been knocked out of two cups in a few week of 3rd div team and championship team, four years back our 16 year olds would of beat them. we are in tatters wake up and smell the coffee we have never played as bad as this team is playing, they are effortless.

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This is what i'm afraid of. everyone, maybe even me included, will write the off for everything - like the Swansea game next, for instance - the team comes out guns blazing and kicks ass, we start to believe again and then they go and have a major fail and we end up back here.
this is not good for the heart or the mind.

psychocyst.

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02 Jan 2013 02:42:30
i hope im right but i really assume that arsenal will buy a player which is not around all the speculations which media build and arsenal are doing thing under the radar for a good reason competition and scared to get out bid buy a bigger team financially i really assume a player from Germany or a german player will come as we scouted in summer just remember the carzorla deal which picked up pace in the media a few days b4 it was made offical henry not coming in january makes me think arsenal has looked on to potential targets already if you listen to arsene after the game he clearly states where he would love to strengthen and that answer is EVERYWHERE not saying he is going to buy a 11 players no but he will buy a few versatile players edd if im wrong please say mate and tell what you think may happen and look guys im asking for edd opinion

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Sorry, couldn't finish reading your quotes, I ran out of breath only a third of the way through! Please put some commas, full stops etc in, my asthma doesn't allow for sentences that run on for about 15 minutes.

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02 Jan 2013 02:30:22
WENGER sorry to say this but you have lost control, i have seen this before in other teams once you have lost control it's over you have had enough money but have bought unworthy players.chamack poor gerviniho useless podolski can only play the odd 10 mins oliver has a touch like an elephant. 50mil last jan and 40mil in the summer. to the board was it really worth selling your best players?? nope because people in the club will be sacked fact, sooner or later

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02 Jan 2013 01:17:50
on the reasons for the performance...

"It is frustrating. It is nothing to with the physical. Maybe we thought we scored seven against Newcastle and we'd score seven today. It was a game of magnitude today against a highly motivated Southampton side but I thought [our problem] was more mental than physical."

No Arsene the reason for the performance was,

"plan A failed, and inconcevably so did plan B when i put Gervinho and Ramsey on the pitch"

the recent good results count for little when we continually fail to beat these inferior sides struggling at the bottom of the table. this should've been 3 points, absolutely without question.
we need to find some consistancy - this month is make or break for our season, if we don't beat Swansea it's another trophyless season, and if we lose to city and chelsea I think you can knock any hope of top 4 on the head as well.
games like today is bread and butter stuff.. okay no team wins every game, we've now dropped points to Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and S'oton who are all quite frankly total $h!t. when you drop points to the likes of these it makes the games against the likes of fulham, stoke, everton not to mention the current top 4 all the more difficult.


AG

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I know, Im so shocked Gervinho and Ramsey Couldnt influence the game! Who'd of thought.
/Sarcasm

I would of rather had Gnarby on, least he has a touch of class.

Its good to be back.

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We are certainly up and down like a yo-yo at the moment. It's hard to explain how can we go from creating lots of chances and free scroing against Newcastle to creating next to nothing the following game with the same team and system against a team that has been conceeding lots of goals.


It may be a mentallity thing but it just seems we cant handle having two games in the same week at the moment with our level just dropping right down in the 2nd game.I think alot of our players are getting fatiqued in particular Arteta. He is the starting point for a lot of our attacks and I feel if it starts slow with him it effects the whole attack.

We need to strengthen in this Dm area to allow more rotation within the squad to maintain a consistent high stamnia level.

Arsenal are a team that need to pklay at full throttle to play effectivly, so keeping the team physcially primed is key. We need a couple of big string physical athletes in miodfeild to keep us at a high stamina level every game.

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02 Jan 2013 01:04:45
My Friend Jason who is a close friend of Zaha has said that Wilfred told him it would be a dream come true if he joined Arsenal and they would be his preferred team to join 100% as he is a Gooner.as a young lad he always wanted to play for Arsenal, my friend Jason would not BS me.

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I know Jason, he's got the kebab van outside B&Q has'nt he?........


Oh no sorry, getting confused thats Jason's Donnervan


Sorry could'nt resist :)

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My Aunties, Ex-Husbands Dog is actually Zaha's agent and he said Zaha will only leave if a offer of £25m is made and he is offered £180k a week. However Barcelona and Annan Athletic also in chase and opened with bids in region of £18m.

Honestly, believe me guys..

Detroit Gooner

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So what you are telling us is stuff everyone already knows

watford gooner

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Excellent.

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Watford gooner, which bit? Jasons donnervan, his aunties ex husbands dog? Please tell us which bit did we already know?

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