Arsenal Banter Archive July 02 2014

02 Jul 2014 20:44:58
Guys

I've been thinking about the recent conversation around Pumas views on the new kit launch coinciding with the announcement of new signings.

There's 2 angles to this

The first is Puma won't want the kit to be overshadowed by the new signings. The second is that we won't announce signings until we can show them ff in the shirt they will be wearing next year

My thinking is that Puma will want the kit launch to have as much impact as possible. Therefore they will want the new signing in their kit so it goes in as many papers websites and tv reports as possible - its a kind of maybe not free but bonus advertising.

Think it this way, if you were Puma which would you rather have.

Scenario 1. Here's Theo Walcott in the new Arsenal kit by Puma

Or

Scenaario 2. Arsenal unveiled their new signing today. Here's (insert any big names of your choosing) who arrived at a total cost of (insert your own mega bucks figure) pictured wearing the new Puma kit. Puma have replaced Nike and their record breaking shirt deal helped in no small measure to Arsenal securing the services of (named player) and brought an end to Arsenal's period of austerity

If I was Puma I would want the new big name(s) in my shirt one day 1 because that would mean I got more media exposure for my money

That's why I am pretty calm right now. However, if we haven't signed anyone by the day after the kit launch I may get a tad tetchy lol

Soopergooner

I don't think a signing will be announced officially till the 14th at the earliest. Post World Cup. Players like debuchy, schneiderlin, who we have been linked with, IF we do sign them we won't announce before, disrupting their WC preparations.
Any press conference would be done at the Emirates with most major Heirachy in attendance. As we all know Wenger is in Brasil and more than likely will be till the end meaning he won't be back in London till week of the 14th.
Puma will have their day first so let's all enjoy the rest of the WC then watch the events unfold at the emirates.

{Ed025's Note - good idea rocky..

02 Jul 2014 18:12:28
Ed, do you think Pogba or Vidal will leave Juventus this summer, or both?

{Ed027's Note - one could leave, both? Nope

02 Jul 2014 17:41:41
ed do you think we have a realistic chance of getting Sanchez?
One of my favourite players.

{Ed027's Note - I do yes

02 Jul 2014 20:24:08
Lets all take a deep breath and just calm down about the whole Sanchez thing. He's most likely a smoke screen for Kalou if we all think about it!

Nice one Jack.

Worryingly too true a word mate!

02 Jul 2014 19:10:09
Micah Richerds available at a knockdown price!
Yes or no for you?
For me it's a massive yes, he can play RB and CB plus cover DMF and he's an Arsenal fan too. He's had a few injuries admittedly but he's w bargain waiting to be snapped up by someone and I really hope its us

I'd be willing to bring him in, especially if we are letting TV5 go.
Debuchy and Richards for Sagna and Vermaelen? Who am I to know, but this seems better than we've experienced over the last few seasons.
I liked the idea of Aurier -I've only seen him play at the World Cup and he looked good, but what do I know?

If this leaves the big money for Khedira/Gonalons/Schniederlen in DM, Sanchez/Bonkers-telli/Shaqiri/Remy/Benzema/Martinez/Falcao/ up front/on-the-wing and anyone else Wenger decides to thrill us with, then I can think of worse.

What I do know is -and this is no shock-that Giroud is not good enough. Good, but not good enough.

Richards is a great player and I would love him at arsenal I prefer him at cb than right back but he's still a good Rb

I would sign him up. He would be a great addition to the squad.

02 Jul 2014 21:28:06
Yep would take Richards and Debuchy to replace Verm and Sagna. I really think Richards could be a beast if he gets a run of games!

02 Jul 2014 17:17:39
NOOOOOO!

Hoogendijk quits Arsenal.

{Ed025's Note - the end of the world is nigh billybob..

Sigh.

Best Arsenal signing in a long long time.

Thanks for the memorties Hoogendijk.

What memories you ask. you weren't there, but they were great!

: P

Commentators up and down the land are celebrating.

02 Jul 2014 16:26:31
Why can't anyone exept me and dags see how good remy is he's custard just what we need

{Ed025's Note - custard?..do yo mean mustard MG...i think you were right with custard though..yellow and sickly..

Custard with a lot of mustard

02 Jul 2014 17:44:11
Hehe Maidstone,

Custard?
What are you like mate? can't take you anywhere, lol.

And if you are going to drop a clanger don't do it in front of Ed025, he's like a razor and will cut you down straight away,lol.

custard? can't get over that one, love it.

02 Jul 2014 20:27:27
I've always been on the Remy bus, would be a good signing

Remy all the way for me to guys.

Us Kent and Essex lot need to stick together.

Remy would be a great signing and all the others would soon change their minds when he's banging the goals in.

Even more so when he does it against the down the road!

COYG

02 Jul 2014 21:15:06
1404. That is very true mate.

02 Jul 2014 22:17:23
Well, because Dags doesn't want Sanchez and Di Maria, we will just have to settle for Sanchez and his man Remy instead.

02 Jul 2014 15:54:07
Have just heard of a possible swap deal involving Monaco and Madrid regarding Di Maria and Falcao.

So, no Di Maria for us than.

02 Jul 2014 16:38:46
Hey Dags,

Was it any of the sources that said we were going to buy or swap players for Nani, Smalling, Cleverley et al.

I'm guessing yes. Believe it when you see it.

Much like until you see Remy wearing a spurs shirt you won't believe it. :-)

And I don't want to see any tears when he doesn't come to Arsenal. ;-)

02 Jul 2014 17:47:49
Damn,

Ok, I made it up, lol.

Its like getting caught nicking sweets out of the tuck shop by Headmistress Taylor, lol.

02 Jul 2014 13:07:19
Is it logical to think that we will not going to confirm any players before the Puma shirts are coming!?

02 Jul 2014 11:31:42
Arsenal about heading for an epic fail yet again in transfer market. Classic Arsenal to making insulting offers. This time £19.4m for Sanchez (according to Metro). They better up the offer fast, because if Juve sells Vidal, they have the money to grab Sanchez.

Sanchez is exactly the kind of player Arsenal needs (right after a defensive midfielder). He is fast, skilled, creates goals, scores goals, plays every situation to the end and does his defensive duties too! So cough up the money Arsenal!

02 Jul 2014 06:44:01
Ed is it true that sanchez would prefer to join Arsenal over Liverpool?.

{Ed001's Note - no idea sorry.}

I think the reality is that Sanchez does not want to leave Barcelona.

and he would not want to be a make weight in any deal.

if liverpool want him, it will have to be a seperate deal.

we have bid 19 million according to some reports and 25 according to others, so I think we are quite far off from what barcelona would accept, so again we leave ourselves open to other teams to come in and sign the player.

02 Jul 2014 09:14:03
According to Daily Star Arsenal is set to sign Debuchy for £12 million. The deal is agreed and will be signed after the worldcup.

Gutted

Your an Aussie so I'll allow it just this once, but if the daily star told me the sun would rise tommorow it would make me dubious

02 Jul 2014 08:33:32
World cup motd fever is a very dangerous conditionand under no circumstances should be acted upon.
South Africa 2010 Lionel Messi looked worth about £2.50 and Bendtner £30 million of anyone's money.
Some players who couldn't get into a top championship side on their club form raise their game for their country on the biggest stage of all.
Judging players on their club performances is a true reflection of their ability and value and is by far the most accurate gage

True dat, although it is good fun claiming that some 28 yr old bloke looks like a world beater only to find out he's been released by Carlisle

02 Jul 2014 08:18:36
Eds. By the way what's the latest on Theo and the Ox. Any updates on how they are recovering?

{Ed001's Note - last I heard, Theo is expected back in Jan and the Ox should be ok for preseason training. With Arsenal's usual injury returns though, that means Jan 2017 for Walcott and the Ox will be retiring due to his knock.....}

02 Jul 2014 11:05:18
That sounds about right mate. But one question! Why such a quick recovery rate? :-)

{Ed001's Note - I am a born optimist....}

I thought the ox was retiring in protest to being called kieran gibbs

02 Jul 2014 08:10:02
I think it's safe to say we're going to sign at least a forward, a midfielder and a right back with a goalkeeper and a center back also likely. But I have a feeling this may not be all (although that's quite a lot already). It would be a classical Wenger move to sell Cazorla now when he's 29 and he possibly wants out. But if that happens I think we might see an unclassical Wenger move; replace Cazorla with a real star player. In the current squad a proper winger like Di Maria would fit in much better than Cazorla after all.

Without Theo we lacked pace last season but if we replace Bendtner, Cazorla and Sanogo (who should go out on loan) with Di Maria, Campbell and maybe Sanchez our attack would suddenly be one of the paciest in the league.

I like to think this is possible but only time will tell. Unless Ed crushes this dream with a "Don't hold your breath".

01 Jul 2014 22:44:38
Eds, hypothetically speaking, if we sign Sanchez and use him as a Number 9, who do you think will be our most likely signing as a left winger?

Also what's your prediction if we use him as a winger?

Cheers

CIG

{Ed003's Note - hypothetically speaking the guy you sign, and if you use him as a winger I would expect him to run down the wing and beat a man or 2 and cross the ball it's all hypothetical mind :) }

But surely 003 that's just what our opponents will be expecting him to do, I think we need a winger who can produce the unexpected like go in goal or take a really long throw without a run up :-) that'll surprise a few people.

{Ed001's Note - or trip up when pretending to take a free kick, before running into the box and not getting on the end of the pass?}

02 Jul 2014 09:55:28
Right that's it, from now on all my questions go to Dags and Flybo. :)

02 Jul 2014 11:56:13
Lol Channel Island, great reply by Ed001 though, cracked me up.