Arsenal Banter Archive April 30 2013

30 Apr 2013 23:14:29
Heard this on irish radio yesterday in an interview with Roy Keane he was saying his young lad is a gooner he doesn't know how it happened but he is. Doesn't mean anything just found it funny with all the history between us and utd esp keane and Vieira. At least he brought him up well. ;) just thought I would share.

That's really weird, wouldn't expect for the same reasons, But Titi and Viera specially had a fan following cutting across club loyalties.

Must admit I never liked Keano for obvious reasons, but after reading his book and listening to what he has to say when he is a pundit he is pretty much bang on about everything, no bull**** just the facts.
His kid must be brave, I wouldn't mess with Keano.

1404

I have a similfar relationship with my father. He wanted me to be a warm friendly person. Who is a talented, successful, bright, professional individual who's life is filled with wonderful people and happy memories. But he doesn't do football.

Lucky I'm a mummies boy
COME ON YOU GOONERS
Flybo

30 Apr 2013 22:05:14
wenger has bought 2 things - most successful manager in the history of the club.

the emirates was his idea.

Where it all went wrong was the board kicking out dein.

pretty simple

Nothings simple.
wenger is guilty of a number of failings.
the club is in decline, as it has been for a number of years.
WENGER OUT

Wenger has a boss to answer too, plain and simple he has not been sacked and never been near the sack because he runs the club exactly how the BOARD wants him too and not how he wants to run it, if he left tomorrow the board would look for a carbon copy of Wenger.

No manager could of achived what Wenger has at the club on the budget he has had, and lost the players he has had, and taken us to the Emirates!

I will always hope Wenger will be a part of Arsenal in some shape or form as without him things would have been so so different.

1404

Seriously dude again!
Wenger is an absolute legend but lately it has become embarrassing:

- Bad players on high wages
- Players played out of position
- Not able to convince top talent to stay
- Persistent gambling on players like Bendtner and Diaby rather than cutting them off and minimising the loses
- not able to zip up that ugly coat he insists on wearing to games

Do people forget we finished 3rd last season, after we sold fabregas and nasri whilst having wilshere injured all season. Be a bit more greatful for the work wenger has done, at least top 4 every season, the invincibles, champions league final ring any bells?

GTID

We are grateful, but even you belive that with some more graft we could have won more than we did in the last 7 years (which was naught).

He seems out of ideas (look at Fergie win the league with a crappy midfield and a sick bay defense, is it acceptable for Fergie, Mourinho, Mancini to be 7or 8 or 10 years without winning anything).


think

How can you even think about comparing them to wenger, wenger due to restraints from the board can't afford to offer 200k+ a week to players. I don't even understand how anyone can hold Mancini in such high regards, man city have spent over £1 billion in the past few years and in return they have one fa cup and one premier league title. Fergie is an unbelievable manager but financial backing from his board plays a pivotal role for example spending £24 million on a 29 year old who had one year on his contract and offering him over 200k. Just don't get how fans can't appreciate what an unbelievable manager wenger is and how he is revolutionised arsenal. Anyway that's only my opinion!

GTID

30 Apr 2013 20:42:18
Exited to see some of our reserves come through next year! could be the year for miquel, campbell, gnabry, aneke, eisfield and bellerin all of these could be knocking on the door next season. Expecting a lot from gnabry and miquel they have both done well when called in to the first team.

30 Apr 2013 19:31:46
It's quite funny how we all complain that we need a WC ST and moan we haven't replaced RVP but yet all of a sudden a lot of people want Benteke? Who before this season was kinda unknown and had one good season for villa a relegation side?

Who cares who he was?

What is more important is what he is.

I mean, who was messi when he was 6?

kev88

If that's your reasoning let's go for michu? Or holt he had a good season for Norwich last season

01 May 2013 08:19:40
but you seem to forget rvp only really had 1 good season for us without injury. benteke young and strong ST could be a good buy even as back up

30 Apr 2013 19:06:12
If Wenger leaves, who will become the new manager?

Dennis bergkamp and steve bould??

Cos that would work with a midweek European game?

Watching Dortmund this season I'm inclined to go with Klopp he has assembled a very good team that are playing very good football.
Cant se Wenger going anywhere but I would also like Carlo

1404

Pretty sure Bergkamp traveled to every away European game as assistant manager at Ajax this season?

30 Apr 2013 17:00:10
I personally don't see Wenger leaving this summer he has always made a huge point of the fact that he sees out his contracts, but should he go am I the only one who thinks now could be the perfect time to go for Jurgen Klopp?

He has won almost everything he can with Dortmund and the Champions League looks like it could be the perfect end for him. He has recently spoken of his disappointment with the way Bayern are making the Bundesliga into there own SPL where they are totally dominant. And look at the last few seasons, look who left last year, Barrios, Kagawa and before that Sahin though he is back now. This season Goetze will definately leave for Bayern, Lewandowski is also leaving, Hummels is the reported number one target for Barcelona but I'm sure Bayern will also want him. Reus is attracting attention with a few clubs looking like they could activate his release clause and finally Gundogan has publicly spoken of his interest in moving to either Spain or England in the future.

His team looks like it could be moving on and to me it looks like a good time to go and get him. We have similar values as a club as him, attractive football, promote young players, and sign exciting young talent. I would guess that financially we would offer him more than dortmund both in terms of his contract and what he could spend on fees and wages. I have no insider information that he wants to move etc. Just the thought crossed my mind he would be my number one choice to replace Wenger and if not him then Jupp Heynckes could be a good option for a few years till we could get him. My only concern is whether or not Chelsea or Madrid would want him as both will be without a manager it seems come the summer.

Like I said though just a thought, can't see Wenger leaving. What do you all think?

30 Apr 2013 18:37:46
I said it months ago that I'd like Klopp if Arsene goes but unfortunately I think the timing for us won't fit.

Not only is he a great manager but an incredibly likeable guy. Really think he would suit us down to the ground. Pretty sure every other big team does too.

I'm sure I either read it or one of the eds said it around the time we were talking of wanting him here that Klopp no longer wants to come to the EPL.

Stoner

Klopp has said he doesn' t feel ready at this time, as he feels his methods would not have the same effect on players who dnt understand German but in the same interview said he would like to manage in the PL one day when he feels he is ready for that step.
Very good guy and honest, I agree with stoner he would fit your club very well but he would ours too and barca's and wot milan are doing, so there are a lot of options open to him when he's ready to move on.
Wenger ain't leaving this summer anyway so any change would be in 2014-15 season.
BIG season for your boys next year imo regardless where u finish this season.
Not my words but a journo who was interviewing him and asked about managing in another country

30 Apr 2013 23:05:40
Arsene's replacement: Dragan Stojkovic

Amazing Goal by Manager, Piksi Stojkovic
http://youtu.be/XQPR43v64e4

EMG

30 Apr 2013 14:51:23
Would you be happy for Wenger to join PSG in the summer?

For me, yes. Make 4th place and then leave so we actually spend the large savings in our bank rather than just talking about it.

30 Apr 2013 15:16:55
I would really like Arsene to stay and spend whatever money he has available on the top quality he's talked about and play against City, Chelsea and United on the same level, not having to have sold anyone unless he wants to.

If it really isn't in his nature to spend and we keep on fannying around for 4th place then really what is his point in staying here.

None, we know he can get fourth with peanuts, he's proved that for 8 years, so let's see what he can do with some dosh and some top quality players.

Abolutely

I agree that maybe wengers time is up but I think the person to replace him should be Joachim Loew. He's a good manager and could help persuade some of the top young German players like Draxler to move to arsenal

What guarantees are there that we will spend if Wenger goes?

we could have a manger that can't compete on the budget his given and we could go into a downwards spiral

be careful what you wish for

I don't want Wenger to leave but if he did, I wouldn't be devastated more excited about a change
(but change isn't always for the good!)
dan

30 Apr 2013 11:01:54
1404 to answer your question about the highbury seats, the guy was about 15-16 years old, he was walking past the building site when they were tearing the place apart, he said he was a cheeky chappy back then and asked a builder to grab him a souvenir from the site. The builder came up trumps and brought him 3 seats worth of souvenir :)

What a lucky Toad, thanks for that.

1404

30 Apr 2013 10:01:53
i have got a little feeling that we might try and buy rooney this summer. you can tell by he's body language and the look on rooney's face that he doesn't want to be there anymore. also in all the time rooney has been at utd I don't think he has ever said anything good about arsenal except after games or before when they get interviewed and they say it will be a challenge arsenal are a tough and good team but every player says stuff like that about the team they are going to play. but after the game on sunday he went on he's twitter to say a big thanks to arsenal players and the fans for giving them a guard of honor. I really think if we did put a bid in he would come to us and I defiantly think it would be a good buy.

top gunner

You are BONKERS

^ hahah simple reply. hilarious

He gets paid 250 000 a week and with our wage structure how do you ever think that would happen and I could think of much better players for that sort of money like ribery etc plus Rooney sucks eggs.

Eyeball

30 Apr 2013 07:48:44
wenger is the hottest property at the moment.

he is the only manager that can constantly deliver cl football on a small budget,

do not be surprised if he ends up in spain.

he will not go b4 his contract ends.

you will see him spend every penny in the bank in the summer. as long as it comply's with ffp rules and we do not get into debt.

he will leave the new manager with a team that can win things and move on.

malaga gooner

I want to see him go for two reasons.

1) to find out if that 70mill really does exist. and if it does if the new man spends it. if not its clearly the board who are hindering our progress.

2) I want to see what I have wanted to see for ages. wenger given some money and see him actually win things. for the sake of his legacy and for his pride he needs to win something soon.

4th highest wage bill in the league, hardly a small budget - if he stopped sanctioning high wages to kids and bit part players we could easily get and pay top talent. The small budget lie is only beleived by Wenger apologists.

"wenger is the hottest property at the moment"

Malaga - have you ever heard of Jurgen Klopp? If we're talking 'hot property' or 'success on a shoe string budget' I think he'd be above Arsene in the hypothetical list.

HB

He sanctions high wages to kids so that he can draw them to arsenal. then we are stuck with them when they turn rubbish or into serial injury prone disasters.

over past few years that mantra has changed since the signing of OX and soo on. the absurd prices were probably made for the likes of chelsea and city from stealing more and more players. in hindsight they should have taken our rubbish.

30 Apr 2013 07:02:45
Benteke over Jovetic all day long for me.
We need a ruthless goalscorer, 18 goals in a poor side in his first season is quite simply stunning - and only 22 years old. He has what giroud lacks, and that's composure - add to that his drive, strength and aerial ability, he's a complete striker who will only get better.
If we sign jovetic, where is he going to play? he's a no. 10, a creator, not a goalscorer. It will mean shifting our best playrr, Cazorla, to the wing and still having Giroud up front -who, despite being a hard worker couldn't finish his dinner
AG

He has what Giroud lacks, and that is the service

Hes not doubt an amazing player. but I would actually take weimann who I think is an outstanding player.

30 Apr 2013 00:17:36
Just watched Villa demolish Sunderland 6-1 with Benteke netting a hat-trick. However, it was disappointing to see Sessegnon get sent off as it means he misses the game against the spuds, in which both teams have everything to play for. But Villa are showing promising signs and I can see them holding Chelski to a draw as the season draws to a tense finale.

As for us, I think with two away games against a relegated QPR and a toothless Newcastle, our toughest game is against Wigan at home. We should definitely score against Wigan's defence but we just have to keep the back door shut, because they are well capable of scoring themselves.

Forget Chelski and Spuds, who are missing their box-to-box midfielders in Ramires and Dembele through injury, if we win all of our games, we will make top 4 for sure. Goodnight!

! Ramires has only got a dead leg, and will be fit for all games.

Wigan at home will be no problem as it is 3 days after they play in an exhausting fa cup final. You can just imagine them using up all there energy trying to get the ball off man city.

I got wigan to win the FA cup. 20/1 odds. since quarters

i also got dortmund to win the champions league since the group stages 20/1 there too.

my season may not end on a bad note. lol