Arsenal Banter Archive August 30 2015

30 Aug 2015 22:12:49
From benzema to cavani to vardy

30 Aug 2015 23:22:02
And....nobody.

30 Aug 2015 23:55:12
no it on arsenal have signed noone wilcom for 17.4m 24yr ivory coast forward

31 Aug 2015 01:55:42
A few are saying Austin dags you might get your wish

31 Aug 2015 05:27:35
I remember Ed 1 writing if AW wanted to push for Cavani he could get him as PSG need to reduce there wages.

So if true it can only be our wage structure or AW's stubbornness stopping us.

31 Aug 2015 08:20:04
I wish Stephen.

My first choice all along mate.

31 Aug 2015 09:16:00
Same here actually Dags, I'd have signed Charlie when QPR did, he has instinct for where the ball is going to be and he certainly knows where the net is

31 Aug 2015 10:10:31
Austin is starting to grow on me, wouldn't mind seeing that get done.

31 Aug 2015 15:22:58
Austin is a better finisher than giroud so it's an upgrade in some ways

30 Aug 2015 21:39:02
No cavani as his value will have doubled after his goals tonight think were still 1 player short

30 Aug 2015 23:14:22
He's a must. Can't believe people don't rate him

30 Aug 2015 23:48:46
I do , he is quality

30 Aug 2015 23:51:37
higuin got a brace tonight tooo and people don't rate him

31 Aug 2015 08:21:27
My Son got a brace yesterday.

His teeth should look fine in a few years.

31 Aug 2015 08:31:39
I know he's top quality, he would be a huge upgrade in our team, what people need to remember is he's playing second fiddle to Zlatan so make him the main man and I think he'll be smashing them in

31 Aug 2015 08:48:20
My dog got a brace yesterday

But my family don't like pheasant

31 Aug 2015 09:20:21
Dags drops a bomb out of nowhere and ends the convo lol

This close to deadline and the guys still laughing. Fair play to you dags but in crying myself to sleep at the moment

30 Aug 2015 21:54:20
A litle bit left field but what about a.pato he may be ideal as a striking alternative.may be perfect turn his career around .haven't seen him lately but on his day quality.

{Ed002's Note - It would be an enormous mistake.}

30 Aug 2015 22:12:12
I think Spurs want him

30 Aug 2015 22:12:19
Why.is he that bad now?

30 Aug 2015 22:17:45
Can we also sign Ganso to play in behind him? And then put our remaining £50m into pyramid schemes?

30 Aug 2015 23:22:58
Cracked me up Ubi :-)

30 Aug 2015 19:28:33
Charlie Austin is now odds on to join United.
Dags if you still want him you better message the boss soon.

30 Aug 2015 20:09:33
Gooner62,

That could be another player we are missing out on mate.

30 Aug 2015 20:26:28
He's a great finisher and that's something we lack, Theo And Giroud miss to many bread and butter chances for me, I'd love to see Charlie starting for us, just not going to happen though

30 Aug 2015 23:46:57
All seriousness here a can't even believe Charlie Austin is even being mentioned in the same sentence as arsenal! Having a laugh!

31 Aug 2015 05:31:11
At this point I'd bite your hands off for Austin, bloody dags wins again!

31 Aug 2015 08:23:19
You know Lemon, you know :-)

31 Aug 2015 08:52:01
Austin is good. Callum Wilson is also a good finisher.

Why not boys

30 Aug 2015 19:14:44
Cavani staring don't think he will bs moving then

30 Aug 2015 19:05:25
Other than Man C, all our rivals look poor and if only we had won against West Ham, we would be sitting pretty.
Man U : Worst United team in decades.
Chelsea: Poor showing so far. Clearly have problems
Liverpool: Poor manager and a poor team
Tottenham : Relegation candidates

30 Aug 2015 20:01:07
Not sure what you are saying. We did get beat by west ham, just like liverpool, whom you say are a poor team. We have had a similar start to Manchester United and we are nowhere near man city. Plus my opinion we will finish behind chelsea, because they are a better team than us, but they have had a nightmare start.

30 Aug 2015 20:11:58
You are correct Robbie.

But, like I said the other day, If we win the league, it would be down to other teams mistakes rather than our ability.

Am I being too harsh?

30 Aug 2015 20:15:09
City Chelsea 1 and 2
Arsenal
Utd
Its only the gaps between us and them that for me are yet to be decided.
Of course utd could yet have a massive couple of days spending and change my opinion on us and them.
Pessimistic? Possibly but I can't see see how we can leap frog the 2 teams who were stronger than us last season when they've strengthened more than we have, its hard to realistically see why that would happen.

30 Aug 2015 20:25:03
City will win the league 100percent

30 Aug 2015 22:23:37
Steve , we could have a 10 point lead on Chelsea and still finish behind them, their squad is far superior to ours

30 Aug 2015 23:00:03
Dags you are being a bit too harsh. Yes we need to be better over the course of the season but none of the others are perfect.

We need to get sanchez, ozil, theo, ramsey etc clicking over on offense, they have a lot of goals in them while maintaining the balance. Coq looks great, Bellerin looks even better and Gabriel is coming on so strong… belief it my friend we can make this happen!

30 Aug 2015 23:26:02
I hope so Red.

31 Aug 2015 00:32:27
It's 100% everybody, our resident oracle has spoken. There is literally zero chance of anybody else winning the league. So how much money you put on it then Derby?

31 Aug 2015 05:35:29
1. City
2/3. Arsenal/Chelsea
4. Man U

My prediction. City will walk it, we can finish above chelsea if we get our act together. United look truly awful, even when they went 1-0 up I had total faith that swansea would win, secretly hoping liverpool, swansea or southampton take their champions league spot away.

30 Aug 2015 18:29:12
Another young manager, with great tactical awareness showing another old dinosaur, how the game is moving on and the old guard are struggling to compete on the pitch with managers who have decent teams who can go out and perform at a high level and nullyfy, old outdated prehistoric wrinkleys. Wake up and smell the coffee boys and realise we are in the same saloon drinking the same old outdated drink.

30 Aug 2015 19:30:13
Nicely put Steve.

30 Aug 2015 21:51:36
I seriously rate Monk and see what you're saying but it's also worth remembering how easy it is for the manager of the so-called lesser team to gamble strategically knowing they're not under the same pressure to win. Swansea can lose to Utd at home and it'll be forgotten by their fans faster than the actual result will get forgotten by Utd fans...

30 Aug 2015 22:18:48
Last season swans took some big scalps,inincluding us snd man u. They are a proper team with a proper manager doing a proper job on a limited budget at an unfashionable club. But my point has always been these young gifted managers coming through now are more tactically aware and know how to deal with the dinosaurs.

30 Aug 2015 16:38:41
so it seems no big name stiker coming this transfer window,if we really wanted we had the money to buy either benzema or lewandowski but AW seems too stubborn to pay the money,just a little thought,how about a little gamble on gomis from swansea,not thr big name everyone looking for but trust me with our midfield he will be scoring 20+ goals..your thoughts please

30 Aug 2015 18:04:17
Why would Benzema or Lewondinski leave the clubs to join Arsenal. Both are regulars and at bigger clubs than arsenal. It has nothing to do with money or stubborness. Arsenal had no realistic chance of signing either. Otherwise we wouldve seen the headlines Benzema and Lewdonski both hand in transfer request to force move to Arsenal.

30 Aug 2015 18:34:34
We have the money to buy most players, benzema is not for sale, nothing to do with wenger been stubborn.

Not all teams need to sell, and not every player wants to play in England.

30 Aug 2015 18:54:44
Honestly I've been really impressed with gomis since bony left, but thought he was a pretty big risk. But his form so far this season has convinced me we should make an offer for him..

30 Aug 2015 19:14:20
Would rather Austin than gomis

30 Aug 2015 20:06:27
Really really important post there noodles. Reality check time pals.

30 Aug 2015 15:23:16
Okay - my hopes for the next few days...

Cheryshev, Wanyama & Cavani

Same positions I have asked for all window but revised players as we missed out on Benz, Vidal, Pedro......

Happy if we got Draxler, Berahino plus Bender....

I really want us to compete and tired of being two players short.

Wanyama is far from my first choice but I don't believe we can wait till The winter window to add to the squad because the margin of error is too small nowadays

Come on AW - I still trust you!

30 Aug 2015 16:06:57
I don't think they will sell wanyama after selling spyder.. maybe lucas silva?

30 Aug 2015 16:10:19
I'd be happy enough with draxler and bender. But I really like Callum Wilson obviously if cavani ain't coming lol

30 Aug 2015 16:17:25
I think you will be massively disappointed SY4. you are hoping for 'names' proven, quality players with a combined cost of £100 million...............never mate I'm afraid.

30 Aug 2015 16:38:10
I'd like jack cork from Swansea or wanyama and cavani

30 Aug 2015 16:43:50
axel witsel-gomis-martial ,buy these 3 and we are all set to give it a go,and we need to sell atleast one of cazorla,ramsey or wilshere because you can't play all 3 in one position

30 Aug 2015 17:34:07
Draxler is heading to Wolfsburg.

31 Aug 2015 00:45:34
Gomis? This has gone to new levels of stupid. This stupid obsession to just sign anybody is so childish.

30 Aug 2015 12:15:03
If Sheffield. Wed bid 10m for a championship player ross McCormack....what are we playing at....sign him up arsene!

30 Aug 2015 11:12:44
Why do we seem to be the front runners when crying about FFP? There are sooo many teams in the Epl much smaller than us, but they don't wail like we do.

Can Arsenal compete financially with the likes of Chelsea and City? Probably not. But then again, Arsene has not done anything at all to show that he is trying. Every man and his dog can see that we need a quality striker or at least an upgrade. Are there strikers out there who are better than Giroud? Absolutely! We myt not be able to afford the Cavanis and Benzemas, but then we should at least buy the best of what we can afford. Giroud and Walcott are not good enuf to lead the line of a squad looking to win the EPL.

Walcott just does not have a natural strikers instinct. Giroud is just too slow and bloody wasteful.

Our players should learn to shoot from distance. We are too slow getting into the box. By the time we want to play the ball in, there will be a wall of defenders and unlikely the ball will ever get to an open player to create goal scoring chances. Arsenal have plenty of pace to burn for goodness sake. Especially when Walcot, Ox and Sanchez play. We just don't utilize our pacey players effectively

{Ed002's Note - Arsenal are trying - or would you be happier if they were to simply bring in players for the sake of it. Not just ordinary players - but players they pay over the odds for?}

30 Aug 2015 11:30:55
The reason we whine more than any club is simple. If all the rest of the clubs operated within there own financial means we would be top of the pile.

It's no coincidence that we haven't won much since abramovich and City. They would never be anywhere near us without that money.

30 Aug 2015 13:40:09
Dont forget Browngun

SAF won the PL with an awful squad , giving RVP a league title

30 Aug 2015 14:17:55
One of SAF finest attributes was to get the best out of average players. And despite that been a distinctly average United squad at the time I consider it one of SAF greatest achievements.

30 Aug 2015 16:22:01
Are we as a club going all we can possibly do to be the best we can possib!y be?
If so you can ask no more
But if not I don't think whining is not at all unreasonable.
The day we're not competing and no ones moaning is a very sad day for Arsenal bcuase that means the fans have given up all hope and lost their passion for the club.

30 Aug 2015 10:31:01
What actually worries me more than the lack of signings is the attacking strategy.

In 4 games we have only managed to score 3 goals. 2 of these are own goals.

I don't think this is because we have not baught a striker. I believe the tactics used by wenger is way too slow. We always let the defending come back with all players, while we pass the ball around the box.

I think sorting out our attacking tactics is more important than splashing big money on a player that only maybe will strenghten us.

30 Aug 2015 11:31:28
Bloody good post

30 Aug 2015 09:24:59
In the absence of Arsene shocking the world by actually signing what we need I think sticking with Olly in every game is our best option and just accept he has to have a lot of attempt's before he actually scores.
His team play is excellent and he does cause the opposition to work much harder than Theo ever could and we do create more chances as a team with him on the pitch.

THE ABOVE IS FROM GUNNER 62

I think that is exactly how AW sees it , I also agree with Noodles that I would rather have Sanchez upfront instead of Walcott. Not sure I agree with Ubistonk when he says if Walcott wasnt rusty he would have scored twice?? Walcott has enough minutes on the picture not to be labelled rusty, that's an excuse. Walcott isn't a goal scorer full stop

30 Aug 2015 09:49:37
I've wanted to see Theo played down the middle for years mate because I thought he might reach his potential there with his pace but I was wrong as Ian Wright said if you was going to do it he it should have been done years ago and he too much to learn at this stage.
Rather than experiment we should first and foremost buy a striker for for purpose but failing that (as I'm sure. Arsene will) Olly is the only option that is likely to bring success, Sanchez looked lost when he played as a lone striker at the start of last season and playing him there turns an exceptional AMF player into a very ave striker in my opinion.

30 Aug 2015 10:58:55
If Theo isn't a goalscorer, how did he manage to score 20+ goals in a season?

30 Aug 2015 11:00:13
I agree but why has he made theo one of clubs best played. Theo is going robe a well paid bench warmer

30 Aug 2015 11:38:29
LOL Ubistonk

Yet Giroud scores 20 + and is crap?

Walcott is best suite out wide with space to run into , he isn't composed enough to play down the middle I'm afraid.

I agree with Browngun to some extent , AW would have put Theo upfront along time ago if he was the solution.

30 Aug 2015 13:55:19
I have no idea if that 2nd sentence is a question or a statement. I never said Theo wasn't best used out wide, I would probably agree with that. But you said he isn't a goalscorer at all, which is wrong. He is a huge goal threat when he is fit.

30 Aug 2015 08:16:04
Pelgrini will have to win his second title in 3 years to stand any chance of keeping his job and even that might not be enough unless he gets close to the champions league too, to me I think that's harsh because he's not done a lot wrong in his 2 seasons.
At the other end of the scale we could finish 5th and Arsene would be as safe as houses, yes I know what he's done for the club and he's by far the best manager we've ever had and we are lucky to have him etc etc
But the question is can a manager be to safe for the teams good? Is no pressure a bad thing, would both Arsene and Arsenal be better off if more was expected of him rather than hoped for?
To me it seems if we won the league he's a genius and if we finish 4 its deffinately in no way shape or form in any part his fault, that can't be good.

30 Aug 2015 09:24:17
He's the best manager for our club currently. You'll only realize how valuable he is when he finally leaves. What is wrong in not going out to buy unnecessarily, if he'd gone on a buying spree we'd be in huge debt. When will people realize that the only way to compete with Chelsea n city is to bring up your own players and buy judiciously. We don't have the kimd of money that people think we have plus the market is full mediocre inflated price or unavailable players.The same fans would complain if Arsene makes a mistake and buys the wrong player by paying a lot of money. It's almost impossible to satisfy our fans. At least realize that he's trying to bring in better players than he was before
Tell me which manager wouldve bought on players like Bellerin, Gibbs, Kosielny, Coquilan paying next to nothing..and have you seen any of our youth players, the ones he has bought r goldmine, Zalelem, adelaide,iowbi n many more..The future is bright only if you have some patience. Mourinho realizes how good a manager Wenger is and has been partially successful in turning our own fans against Wenger, how do people not realize we came out of a huge stadium debt, losing players every year, injuries, plus the opponents with unlimited money..?

30 Aug 2015 09:35:44
Removal of FFP has not helped our case against the moneybags - we have money but not that much!

{Ed002's Note - FFP has not been removed.}

30 Aug 2015 10:05:13
Patience George :-) years without a DM and ripped apart by the big boys because of it and Arsene did nothing to stop it happening again and again, now we are desperately in need of a goal scorer and Arsene does?
Arsenal football club should be serious contenders and that's should be Arsene's minimum acceptable target to keep his job, not winners necessarily but most certainly serious contenders and if he can't do that then hey ho thanks for the memories.
That would be an unreasonable target for Norwich city manager but Arsenal football club with how much money I think that's very reasonable

30 Aug 2015 10:03:51
Ed, it's been watered down enough for City to once again spend stupid money

{Ed002's Note - No, that is not what has happened.}

30 Aug 2015 11:14:54
City were punished last season by fines and restrictions on both spending and CL squad size so are all square with uafa I think

30 Aug 2015 11:07:06
Totally agree.he has finally got a proper keeper after ten yrs.it ten yrs since vieria left its time we got a proper mid to give le coq some competition.a world class striker too ,its a squad game now.london George was on about the youth ,but how many in last ten yrs actually made it at the very top.remember we had gr8 young players coming thru before.a decade long enough to be waiting to challenge.

30 Aug 2015 14:16:57
9 years of penny pinching and suddenly everyone wants us to immediately win the league, we are getting stronger n stronger for past 2 years, won 2 FA cups n are serious contenders this season with or without more signings..Arsene will sign when the right players come along, which we r not the ones to decide. So of course it calls for patience, sacking Wenger now means going back 4 to 5 years..I believe he wanted Vidal, but we r just a few years short of being able to compete with the likes of Bayern which we will..but city n Chelsea financially we'll never b able to compete with..