Arsenal Banter Archive August 30 2017

30 Aug 2017 22:10:04
Take £35m Ox money and get Mahrez.

Or, just keep it in the bank.

I wonder what option we will take?

{Ed025's Note - wenger and kronke are the biggest pair of bankers in football dags.. :)

30 Aug 2017 23:04:22
It's going to be a long season for us Ed.

30 Aug 2017 23:35:13
eds knows. but I think year or so ago eds I remember you saying to us be careful what you wish for.

if I have the wrong eds apologies.

30 Aug 2017 23:38:13
Love it dags!

I've got a really horrible feeling we're going to get Barkley.

I posted back in July that everyone slating how Mahrez is not the answer would be gagging for him come deadline day.5th place.

31 Aug 2017 08:10:20
Derby I remember you saying don't worry Lemar will definitely be coming.

Any update mate 😉.

31 Aug 2017 08:23:54
He meant coming to Liverpool 😁.

31 Aug 2017 12:58:43
stoner i know i was let down there. was told it was going to be done. makes me think now were we really serious?

i hate the clubs owner and wenger can go but even i expected 4 big players this summer.

appologies all around.

30 Aug 2017 21:18:52
David ordtein reporting for BBC we have no money. interesting to say the least.

{Ed025's Note - more embarrassing i would say dolally..

30 Aug 2017 22:43:48
In that case Arsene needs to explain the Mbappe charade?

31 Aug 2017 02:19:19
His favourite line 'I almost signed (insert player who was never joining arsenal here' then the board let him away with it all again.

30 Aug 2017 20:55:03
Arsenal have no money to spend on players
that's nonsense surely!?!

{Ed025's Note - your dead right it is TJS..

30 Aug 2017 21:29:24
its a new low for this great club. been telling you all along things won't improve until stan is gone.

30 Aug 2017 21:43:00
Not being in the champs league means we can't spend as much, Wenger saying it makes no difference was a blatant lie. We are in deep doo doo that's for sure.

30 Aug 2017 21:52:00
Who has said this?

30 Aug 2017 22:28:10
Surely this is only being said to stop any clubs we go make bids for their players don't ramp up price as they know we have even more money now?

or am i just thinking wishfully.

30 Aug 2017 19:58:57
Looking more and more like a typical Wenger transfer window. Signing 2 players and selling many more, so as to make a surplus opposed to actually spending any funds. What are the odds that we won't make a single signing tomorrow. Wenger will come under enormous pressure to quit.

30 Aug 2017 20:15:15
I agree mate, we've done our business with regards players coming in.

30 Aug 2017 20:27:44
I said earlier no one else will come in, I'd bet Dags house on it! 😉.

{Ed025's Note - house prices in dreamland have hit an all time high stoner..

30 Aug 2017 20:36:43
Dags has 20,000 cats as sitting tennants so the market will more limited than Arsenes scope for players who can improve his team.

30 Aug 2017 21:20:07
We said similar things before they surprised us with Ozil and Sanchez. Just saying.

30 Aug 2017 21:26:59
Might sell my house to Raver.

At his age, it's the only semi he can get.

30 Aug 2017 22:20:19
Don't worry R.G. your neighbours have signed 2 today and there is 3 more coming tomorrow while we build the biggest ground in London. You say Spurs and the pain while you are playing Europa league with a mass exodus of players quitting.

30 Aug 2017 19:43:36
If its true as reported 40mil for the ox on his last year that ain't bad business. I think wenger has been playing him and talking him up for a sale show hahaha.
Anyway I hope we bloody use the money on some needed decent player.

30 Aug 2017 19:51:17
It's great business mo. I'd sooner that than him stay on 180k a week. I know as fans we should not try and get involved in the money side of things but that sounds good to me.

30 Aug 2017 19:53:44
A bit late to spend it, we've had that money in the bank for years why wait for a sale.

30 Aug 2017 21:37:23
Which ever way you look at it, we are weaker and they are stronger.

30 Aug 2017 21:54:25
I don't like to get involved or talk about the club money as I get 0% out of it, but it wasn't bad bit of business.
Bam bam mate you might be too right and I doubt they will use it, but as a suggestion I would add 10 mil and get mahriz. i'm sure its not that easy but who knows.

30 Aug 2017 22:00:06
Steve, will you look at it differently if we get Mahriz with that money? I wouldn't mind one bit to be honest.

30 Aug 2017 23:26:10
Mahrez would be a good replacement but what damage has this summer's shenanigans done for this club. Are we going for mahrez?

31 Aug 2017 02:24:32
Mahrez won't fix arsenals issues on his own though, and he was quite similar in terms of attitude to Sanchez.

30 Aug 2017 18:53:54
Not here to cause any trouble guys.

So Oxlade-Chamberlain wants to leave you guys, to apparently play in midfield. He then rejects Chelsea because he isn't guaranteed a place in midfield. He then decides to join Liverpool (where he's also not guaranteed to play in midfield) .

You guys have and will win more silverware than Liverpool in the next few years.

Oxlade-Chamberlain seems a bit of a joke if you ask me, he's not prepared to join Chelsea or stay at Arsenal and fight for a place in the midfield. He then joins a club who will win less than Arsenal and Chelsea in the next few years. And he's still not guaranteed to start in Liverpool's midfield.

Just shows his lack of ambition and fight to become a top player and win major honors.

30 Aug 2017 19:07:40
Bobby,
Fair comment and totally agree mate.

Like I posted earlier, I can't see him getting in front of Emre Can, Henderson or Coutinho (if he stays) .

Respect to you mate, good post.

30 Aug 2017 19:54:56
Good post Bobby.

30 Aug 2017 19:55:30
If he can't get a game ahead of Xhaka and Ramsey in Arsenals CMF it really is time for him to get out, Chelsea will always be a tough place to win a place in MF simply because you pay what it takes to get what and who you want.
Liverpool and Klopp have obviously shown the Ox the most confidence in his ability to play there so it makes sense for him to go where he's most wanted in the position he wants to play in.

30 Aug 2017 22:07:31
Liverpool fan here, not causing trouble but even arsenal fans will admit as things stand right now, Liverpool look more likely to win anything your comment is ridiculous and sounds bitter, now to arsenal fans, ar wyou hopeful or some big singings? You've made a good few quid (or will do) from AOC/ Sanchez/ Gibbs etc but with the market everything siflated and signing Lemar won't replace all of these players, just after your opinions on who you think/ would like in (realistically obviously no point saying mbappe and ronaldo) . As mentioned elsewhere I hope you's can sort yourselves out before the window closes goodluck.

30 Aug 2017 22:15:13
Bobby lack of ambition you or Arsenal have never been on Liverpool's level and never will be bigger than the 5 times European cup winners.

30 Aug 2017 18:50:02
We sold players for about £70 mill
We bought players for about £60 mill

There must be some more players coming in?

Has the team improved?

30 Aug 2017 19:50:00
Nope, but Kroenke was seen today in a Lambourghini showroom up London.

30 Aug 2017 18:14:28
That's good then, it looks like we have got all the money back we spent on lacazette. Very satisfying.

30 Aug 2017 18:38:23
Shrewd business mate.

30 Aug 2017 18:58:28
Dags sell Sanchez for 70 mil and we are in a great shape.

30 Aug 2017 19:12:54
Hurray, we are making money. We have a great business club.
H
Who cares about trophies when we can make money other ways.

30 Aug 2017 19:16:01
Mate we've recouped over £70 million compared to the £46 million paid for Lacazette.

That doesn't include possible fees for Debuchy, Campbell and Perez.

30 Aug 2017 19:35:31
Stoner doesn't it make you feel warm. Or is that hot. under the collar.

30 Aug 2017 19:51:08
Season ticket prices to go down?

30 Aug 2017 17:59:10
Ed. How can oxlade Chamberlain reject chelsea if arsenal want to sell? what's going on in this deal? Does arsenal not want to sell? Or player prefers a move to liverpool hence rejected chelsea?

{Ed001's Note - Ox always wanted a move to Liverpool.}

30 Aug 2017 18:17:20
If a player doesn't want to go to a club he doesn't have too. The club cannot force him.

30 Aug 2017 19:54:18
Ed are you satisfied as a Liverpool fan with the ox. I know you don't like to get into stuff like this but who would you say has got the best out of this deal?

{Ed001's Note - only time will really tell, but he is not my choice of signing. However, he is a Liverpool fan and was desperate to join us and is a decent like for like swap for Milner, who he is intended to replace. It just seems far too much to pay when his contract is coming to an end and I am not convinced he is all that good. Hopefully Klopp will improve him and he will work harder because he is at a team he wants to be with.}

30 Aug 2017 17:22:40
Gooners everywhere. Is it time to accept we are not going to do anymore transfer business bar Ox and Alexis going and just get behind the team? I check the reports every hour or so and nothing changes, think it's time to get behind the players and Le Prof and show the team we will support them this season despite having a hopes and dreams shattered.

30 Aug 2017 17:31:07
Yes we will just sit back take a big sigh and watch our club rot under it's owner and manager and do nothing but keep cheering come what may. Don't quite think fans will see it that way somehow.

30 Aug 2017 17:40:32
Le prof.
Le prof?
Really?
Whats he a professor in then?
What's the implication here?
Yeah your right i'm pissed off.
Le prof.
Jesus wept.

30 Aug 2017 17:46:34
have a feeling, we might replace ox with mahrez.

30 Aug 2017 13:42:34
hi eds how many players could you see coming in by tomorrow all i see is players leaving.

{Ed025's Note - not many stephen, one maybe two at most as mr know it all will come out and say he is happy with what he has mate..

30 Aug 2017 17:13:51
Ed025, is Mr Know It All Dags?

{Ed025's Note - its either him or wenger sharpy..ill let you decide mate..

30 Aug 2017 17:54:55
Bloody cheek.

True though, but still cheeky 😁.

30 Aug 2017 18:57:22
ok thanks ed hopefully seri and a cb but never know with dags i mean wenger.

{Ed025's Note - lets hope so stephen, arsenal even at this early stage of the season look like a team who may struggle to contend at the very top, which will be a great shame for a club with their stature and pedigree mate..

31 Aug 2017 00:32:48
if we don't sign anyone and lose sanchez to we just about get 10th place.

30 Aug 2017 16:15:55
Just read that the Arsenal Shop was broken into over the weekend and thousands of pounds of merchandise were stolen. However the thieves brought all of it back after Sunday's game as the merchandise had become worthless.

30 Aug 2017 17:20:21
Sounds like jon Terry's mums been on the prowl again.

30 Aug 2017 13:36:38
I see Oxlade-Chamberlain intends to stay at Arsenal and run down his contract if he don't get liverpool move, I'm assuming he will not get on the pitch, as why would he play he has no interest in us, we should not help him in anyway, and then I hope england drop him.

30 Aug 2017 14:42:11
I see know problem of he performs, he's on a contract and he wants a move, so he has to put himself in the shop window.

30 Aug 2017 14:52:48
Can you really see it tho steve. Youd be very foolish to believe players and agents don't reach out in private to opposition managers and viceversa, especially when it comes to klopp and Liverpool.
Dont you find it odd he flat out refused to enter into an agreement with Chelsea whilst Liverpool had not yet even declared interest or matched the offer? What player has that luxury except for one who knows that the club in question, Liverpool, are interested and will make a move. All he's doing is forcing us to sell either for lower than what Chelsea bid or for nothing next summer when hell join them anyway.
It smacks of collusion but we are the real architects of our own rubbish sandwich here.

30 Aug 2017 15:09:57
but Steve he's not and will not commit himself fully to our season, we'll end up looking even bigger mugs than we are already.

30 Aug 2017 15:22:36
Calm down he won't be a Arsenal player Friday morning.

30 Aug 2017 15:41:51
I'd put money on it that no matter who leaves there won't be anyone coming in.

30 Aug 2017 16:38:33
I agree 100%, but its like a car crash we can't take our eyes off the transfer rumours. I am just shocked by how disorganized we have been were like a pub team.

30 Aug 2017 17:34:29
If he does stay and doesn't perform, he won't get his move, that's for sure.

30 Aug 2017 12:51:05
Things are definitely looking bleak for the season ahead but at least I can be proud of myself. People said I would NEVER get over my obsession with Phil Collins music.

Just take a look at me now.

30 Aug 2017 13:07:26
Its the next line that's more applicable RSharpe.

'Well there's just an empty space'

Banter any better :-)

30 Aug 2017 13:10:38
Grab ya jacket, you've pulled.

Oh hold on, no jacket required 😉.

30 Aug 2017 13:15:01
Serge Aurier has just got his jacket Dags. :-D.

30 Aug 2017 13:26:41
Sharpie, is that you or the Cat? 😂.

30 Aug 2017 13:52:31
Nessie, I don't have the time or the crayons to explain banter to you, sorry.

30 Aug 2017 13:58:36
Stoner, cat died, I'm the chinchilla.

30 Aug 2017 14:01:47
Why thanks harps, on a positive note it looks like you 'may' have a signing in the bag.

30 Aug 2017 11:53:53
Had to laugh our club shop was broken into, that has to be an 'insurance job', as the merchandise must be selling poorly!

30 Aug 2017 12:04:01
I'm surprised Wenger didn't try to stop them.
He run's the club from top to bottom, surely he was on security guard duty at the time?

30 Aug 2017 12:18:15
Dags, the poor man couldn't zip his jacket up quick enough to give chase.

30 Aug 2017 12:21:38
Dags, Wenger was on car park duty at the time, security duty is today!

30 Aug 2017 12:50:05
Dont tell me RG61, did someone break in and steal all the Gonzalo Higuain shirts again?

30 Aug 2017 12:55:58
Epping, no mate. I heard it was just the letter P's the shop bought in anticipation of Mbappe.

30 Aug 2017 12:57:20
I can see us been robbed on a few more occasions over the next 2 days.

30 Aug 2017 13:04:07
Those thieves were really taking the P's RSharpe.

30 Aug 2017 13:09:08
Sanogo, stop your havering mate. You're making me feel really doon about the season ahead 😂.

30 Aug 2017 13:12:29
Must have been Wenger.

He's been taking the 'P' for past 10 years.

30 Aug 2017 11:41:39
My view, ox is just money in the bank to reinvest, Sanchez is not, he is nearly irreplaceable. I've heard we are asking 70 mil, we ust hold out, citeh want him. I want him to stay but money from ox and Sanchez could replace Sanchez, only problem is it's too late in the window. Looks like poor management again.

30 Aug 2017 12:05:53
And another poor season ahead.

30 Aug 2017 12:13:17
If he's irreplaceable, what do we do next year when we lose him on a free and don't get any money in for him to reinvest?

30 Aug 2017 12:16:01
Spot on, both will probably go, Oxlade is money in the bank to bring in a RWB. This season we could use Chambers and Maitland-Niles as cover for Bellerin. Sanchez is a hard player to replace. Yes, we can play Welbeck and others in the left attacking role, but we lose a top quality player who will be virtually impossible to replace with a player of similar quality. Sterling, Lemar and Draxler are possibilities,

30 Aug 2017 12:31:15
I would take the Money for Sanchez (£55-60m) reinvest on Draxler if interested. Also why are we not after Krychowiak? on loan, not really a gamble is it?

30 Aug 2017 12:43:53
If Sanchez is irreplaceable then why bother trying. Instead use the money to strengthen somewhere else where the money will make a big difference, such as DM or CD. Our issue has been playing two attack minded CM's leaves us completely exposed. A way to deal with it is to play 2 up front not 3, which would allow us to play 3 central midfielders, with one being the dedicated DM behind the 2 box to box type players. Its a shame as this system might have also allowed the Ox to play his favoured CM role with us, rather than going somewhere else.

30 Aug 2017 14:47:31
Dags it is looking bleaker by the minute. What a disaster this summer is turning into for arsenal football club.

30 Aug 2017 11:12:55
We need to hijack the Krychowiak deal.

30 Aug 2017 11:25:33
Why are we not interested, surely better than what we have.

30 Aug 2017 11:39:03
Maybe if we suggest he buys 17 more attacking players he'll do exactly the opposite and actually buy some big gravel eating no nonsense defenders.

It's painful to watch him floundering about now.

30 Aug 2017 12:07:51
"Gravel eating" 😁😁😁.

30 Aug 2017 12:10:05
He's better than that liability xhaka.

30 Aug 2017 08:52:00
With today and tomorrow left, what interests me is whether we actually have the staff in place to cope with the possible transactions in or likely to be in progress:

Oxlade out
Sanchez out
Mustafi out
Gibbs out
Debuchy out
Perez out
Campbell out
Reine-Adelaide - loan?
Akpom loan?
Maitland-Niles loan?
Chambers?

CB in
Sanchez replacement in

Thats an awful lot to accomplish before 11pm tomorrow.

30 Aug 2017 09:29:25
Lots of it is no doubt already in place simply waiting for the final details to be sorted, plus can't loans of some sorts bd done after the window?

{Ed001's Note - not any more, the emergency loan window has gone now.}

30 Aug 2017 10:05:15
Awful lot for arsene to do on his own you mean lol.

30 Aug 2017 11:09:27
Same old Arsenal

Unless we have quality lined up I can't see Sanchez leaving this Window.

30 Aug 2017 11:21:48
Cheers Ed001 mate.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

30 Aug 2017 11:27:03
Banbury Sanchez can not go without replacing him with similar quality.

30 Aug 2017 08:11:34
Not a rumour and more of thought/ call to arms, and no doubt I will get a lot of thumbs down.

I see a lot of people on here saying 'who would want to sign for Arsenal' at the moment. Now I get that things aren't exactly rosey in the garden, but we are still THE Arsenal. We are one of the great teams and we are still a draw to a lot of players. Even AW is a manager a lot of people still want to play for.

I have seen reports of players such as Draxler and Seri saying that they would happily play for Arsenal - that shirt still means a lot to a lot of people, especially with the history that it brings.

I am as frustrated as anyone, believe me, but let's be supporters and actually try supporting this club, regardless of how crap we are at completing transfers. It's still 11 players on the pitch with our crest on their chests that need our support - regardless of whether we've had Steve Morrow and Ian Selley or Patrick Vieira and Manu Petit in midfield, they still felt the support of the fans.

WE can make a difference to things, so let's stop our moaning and get on with doing our job and support the players that pull on the shirt.

30 Aug 2017 08:37:52
I agree and they do get the support they deserve but it's all a two way thing. The fans have built this club and they deserve to see commitment and competency from the club. Everyone is accountable.

30 Aug 2017 08:45:13
I see where your going and appreciate what your trying to do but support a group of individuals who show no passion or commitment in the shirt? That's a very big ask.
Steve Morrow Selby and lots of other players have worn our shirt without being the most fantastic of players but I have never ever in over 40 years seen players wear if with such little effort passion or commitment.
Sorry but Arsene may or may not have lost the dressing room but together he and his players have lost the interest of many many fans who are desperately waiting for a team they can rely on to show up each week and get fully behind again.
I personally think the ball is very very much in players managers and clubs court right now and they need to start winning back the support THEY have lost and not expect that like everything else at Arsenal to simply come for nothing.

30 Aug 2017 08:56:18
No good supporting the players who pull on the shirt if they have absolutely no interest in wearing it.

30 Aug 2017 09:31:07
62,
You make a great point.
Pro Wengers and outside fans miss the bigger picture and actual point when the criticisms are made.
Its not that we feel entitled to winning or expect hundreds of millions spent each year.
When you chose Arsenal as your team no matter what age you were it was because you were drawn to them, you could identify with them and you felt you knew Brady, Seaman, Adams, Merson, Wright. the list goes on and on. Youd never met them personally but they represented you and you were inexplicably drawn to them.
Any true football fan will tell you the same when he reminisces about why he loves his team.
Id be shocked if you canfind me an Arsenal fan of 20+ years who cam relate to this crop and the manager who harvested this attitude and mentality they now possess.
Ox Chambo was a hero the back end of last year, was it because he was putting in phenomenal skillful match winning performances? . nope, it was because he became identifiable with our fans through social media and because he was the first and last to acknowledge the fans both at home and particularly away after wins, draws or bad loses.
Thats why his stature has risen, not because he's particularly evolved as a player. that's all we want. Acknowledge us, let us at least pretend we make a difference or enter your thoughts at some points. score a goal and run into our crowd and celebrate at some stage this decade.
You want to know the sad truth? Wenger gets rid of the players who have what we used to have and what he inherited from George Grahams era. players who provoke debate and challenge themselves and those around them to strive to be better for the cause. Schezny sold to JUVENTUS, just read his farewell to the fans and tell me he wanted to leave this club. Wilshere is now the subject of snide remarks and being wrote off by Arsenal fans yet do you think he would have played like that on Sunday or went down without a fight?
How can so many players be allowed leave without ever getting a fair go, Gnabry, Toral, Perez, Campbell, etc etc while Ramsey and Walcott and co live charmed lives.
My brother is as mad an Arsenal fan as me and he tells me Walcott and Ramsey know where the bodies are buried and they have Wenger by the balls, and I think he has a point.

30 Aug 2017 09:54:10
People will only go to watch thier favorite band give a half hearted performance so many times before deciding to spend their time and money else where.
The Emirates will become less and less full as the season continues unless something changes and the club give people a reason to turn up other than out of habit.
It's an expensive day out supporting Arsenal and some people already have found better and more enjoyable ways of spending thier time and money and others will follow.
You can only go through the motions for so long without losing credibility.

30 Aug 2017 04:32:13
Late swoop for goretzka?

30 Aug 2017 00:00:41
Seriously : "Meanwhile, City supporters are angry at their club's lack of success in the transfer market this summer, despite five new signings. "

Try supporting Arsenal!

At least we have class and history - success in the past! 😉.