Arsenal Banter Archive June 30 2017

30 Jun 2017 21:55:31
Ozil has signed a new contract!
Unfortunately its only for his corporate box at the Emirates, but hey hopefully that is a good sign that he's staying.

30 Jun 2017 18:45:49
Hi Eds,

Are any of you still with us? :' (.

{Ed002's Note - The posts are still being posted as far as I can tell.}

30 Jun 2017 18:58:56
Haha maybe he was asking if you've passed on to the other side Ed 😂.

30 Jun 2017 17:46:58
It's about time Arsenal showed some backbone and made it clear that they dictate which teams they will sell a player to, not the player.

The player is a contracted employee and as such is not in charge of the transfer. They can obviously negotiate their new contract with the club they are moving to and may have a choice of clubs from whom bids have been accepted, however they are not in charge of which bids are accepted. If a player wants to change club they must hope that a bid is accepted from a club they would like to play for or stay put.

Why would a club want to sell its best players to a close rival? It would be madness!

Its a two way street, whilst a club cannot force a player to sign a new contract like ways that player cannot force their club to sell them to club not of their choosing.

If Sanchez wants to go to City just tell him no and say he has 3 choices:

1. Transfer to a team Arsenal is willing to sell to

2. Sign a new contract with Arsenal

3. Sit on the bench for the entire year leading up to what at 28 might realistically be his last World Cup and hope his coach picks him with zero match fitness, sharpness or pitch time since last season.

Yes he would be able to leave on a free in a years time but a stand needs to be taken, we would lose £50m but it would be worth it to stop he rot. Top players who are on more money for a weeks "work" than most fans could aspire to earn in 5 years need to be put in their place.

Ultimately the money they earn comes from fans without whom there would be no sponsors, TV rights, ticket sales, merchandise or image rights. Its about time they showed the fans some loyalty.

A club of Arsenals size, earnings and history needs to draw a line in the sand to say we are not a stepping stone club, we are a final destination. Top players must be shown that there will be continued player investment and that they will be surrounded by other top players in a team that can compete successfully in any competition.

The only players looking to leave should be those older players on the fringes of the first team who have not been able to stake a claim to a starting place in the first 11.

30 Jun 2017 19:15:21
If he dosnt sign or our valuation isn't met I'd slap him on the bench for a year.

30 Jun 2017 20:04:02
Best post I've read in a long while Gunny.

30 Jun 2017 21:59:51
As I started to read your post I wanted to start moaning about the loss of a good player for a season, but you're 100% right, let him stew as it's not like his heart would be in it if we make him play while his contract runs down.

30 Jun 2017 11:03:08
For fun, I started looking at the performance of some of Stan Kroenke's other teams.

It's pretty grim.

For all of Ivan Gladiz's praise during Q&A; our owner cannot be called Ambitous.

30 Jun 2017 14:30:46
Oh I don't know, I mean he did move his NHL franchise away from its home and loyal fan base in St Louis across to Los Angeles based on pure ambition; that it will make his net worth increase!

30 Jun 2017 15:36:25
No kidding and his son seems even worse so no silver lining in him taking over from his father at some point, the two teams he's president of both have done even worse since Stan appointed him.

Just look att Colorado Avalanche in the NHL from 95-00 (oldest stats i could find) before Stan they finished 2nd on average in their conference.

Then Stan came in and the following seasons they finished 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 9. and it basically just got worse with a couple of 15th places at worst, but those early seasons when he still had the team the previous owners had built made the average league finish under him 7th. And then came president Josh and made it 9th (11th if not for a fluke 2nd place in 2014)

So as long as KSE controls the majority at Arsenal there's no way AFC will ever compete at the level we fans want.

30 Jun 2017 15:58:29
iv always said we win nothing with stan.

30 Jun 2017 18:57:00
If only Usmanov owned the club then Arsene would do? :-)
Absolutely everything exactly the same as he does under Stan?
Usmanov would not sack Arsene and Kronke does absolutely nothing to prevent Arsene from doing everything and anything he wants.
He gives the fans the manager they want
He gives that manager all he wants
What more can the man do?

01 Jul 2017 14:47:11
if he owned it arsene would be gone, plain and simple. usmanov in my opinion would go the extra mile, look at everton since his mate has gone there.

30 Jun 2017 07:37:01
Hello Eds .
What are your thoughts on Gary Medel.
I was quite impressed with him watching Chile play against Italy. I thought he would look good in an Arsenal shirt playing like that. I read he plays for Internazionale and Cardiff beforehand but apart from that I have never honestly heard of him. What do you guys think of him? .

{Ed001's Note - I love Medel and have been wanting Liverpool to buy him since before he moved to Spain many years ago now. He was just a combative midfielder with real bite (nicknamed the Pitbull) back then, but he had a lovely touch on the ball, good vision and an excellent range of passing, as well as the bite. Since he worked with Bielsa, at Chile, he has grown immeasurably as a player and become accomplished as a ball playing centre back, as well as a midfielder. For me, if you had bought him instead of Xhaka, you would have easily got top 4 last season.}

30 Jun 2017 07:52:10
Glad you said that people were looking at me a bit weird when I said I would like to have seen him at Arsenal the other day.
He certainly looks a strong player.
Wonder why we haven't heard of him being linked to Arsenal I believe he would have been a really good choice
of player. Do you agree? .

{Ed001's Note - because Wenger never wanted a player like him until Coquelin broke through and Medel is too old now to be that player now. I did say many many times when he was at Sevilla, before Cardiff made him their record signing (incidentally he was by far and away their best player that season too), that he would be a good signing for Arsenal. Wenger was just never interested in combative midfielders then, he was only looking for tricky fast players.}

30 Jun 2017 07:59:05
Well there you go . Great minds think alike mate.
Have a good day and thanks for the reply.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

30 Jun 2017 16:01:57
hes a player every team is better with no question.