Arsenal Banter Archive September 30 2015

30 Sep 2015 22:49:56
Things are that bad at the moment I didn't enjoy Chelsea losing last night one little bit infact I didn't even know their result until this morning and even then it was at best, good rather then a get in there reaction.
24 hours on and I don't mind utd getting a win tonight infact I hope they get through and have and do well in the competition this season and as for city well I can take or leave them most of the time, I don't really dislike them like Chelsea or utd (and I dislike those two a lot) but good luck to all 3 of them at this moment I hope 1 of them can win it and although I'd prefer it to be city if its utd or Chelsea hey ho I don't really care either.
I think this has to be the lowest point of over 40s of being a Arsenal supporter, I'm sure there's been worse it just difficult to member them at my age :-( :-(

01 Oct 2015 11:44:33
Come on Gunner, you're beginning to sound like Morrissey!

30 Sep 2015 21:09:02
Going to get hammered for saying this but...............................I am actually quite excited about replacing Wenger now , it has turned very boring and quite predictable , before the CL group stages start we know we aren't going far in the competition, its real edge of your seat stuff wondering if we can get to the last 8.

We know we are miles off the PL title , someone new will be refreshing, get us interested , having someone who can change styles of play .

I will support the team each week but as long as I have a hole in the sink I will never ever back Wenger.

The man is fast losing credibility.......if he has any left that is. I am afraid we have gone very stale and settling for mediocrity.

30 Sep 2015 22:02:34
Personally I'm gutted things have gone this far and watching the once fantastic and best manager we have ever had and probably the best we will ever haves decline has been and continues to be very very sad to see.
He should have gone long ago or been prepared to get help in from the outside someone who was not brainwashed into the Arsene way of thinking like Bould is, if you listen to Keowen last night it's all Arsene likes this Arsene wants that from his midfiel or defenders or wide men etc the esteme the class of 97- 2004 hold Arsene in means they can not offer good alternative advice.
If Arsene had been prepared to listen to others who see things differently to him and work with them things could and most probably would have been different, Fergie often brought in a number 2 from outside.
Now it's going to drag on a be very very sad to watch and the team/club will have to continue to lose ground until he calls it a day.
For now all we can do is wait and watch through the fingers of the hands covering our faces and hope it doesn't get to humiliating for Arsene and us.
He's of the past no question but it gives me no pleasure to see this.

30 Sep 2015 17:33:32
I'm not a Wenger in or Wenger out, although am starting to lean towards the latter as I can't see signs of improvement any time soon. I just want what is best for Arsenal FC. One of my concerns is that it is commonly known that we were three or four quality players away from competing on all fronts and we know in which positions. Irrespective of those who say Wenger will or won't buy the fact remains that we still need these players. The GK was acquired although I have no idea why he was 'rested' for a must win game last night. What concerns me is that in addition we have Arteta & Rosicky who are both passed their sell by dates with the BFG not far behind & with Kos & Carzola not a million miles behind. Added to that you have Flaming & Campbell who have no long term futures at the club & the injury prone Wilsher amongst other inevitable injuries that will arise. To me, it is just not the quiet summer but also the previous transfer windows since the financial burdens were lifted. I hope and expect some of the voids will be found from within but if not.....

30 Sep 2015 17:52:03
Iv said for years silent stan doesn't care about us challenging. We need a change of owner aswel.

{Ed025's Note - you dont like some of the players...you dislike the manager..now the owners are not to your taste either derby!...have you thought about supporting someone else mate?.. :)

30 Sep 2015 18:01:59
I think he has Ed.

{Ed025's Note - he makes steve look like the father christmas of supporters UG.. :)

30 Sep 2015 18:26:11
Love it Ed. Ho ho ho...

30 Sep 2015 18:57:46
My dream eds is usmanov takes over. Diego simeone comes in and we buy a spine.

Ubi may be waiting for Wenger to lift another title or ozil to win pfa player but it ain't happening

{Ed025's Note - 3 points off top spot is not too shabby derby, i still think arsenal will have a big say in the winning of the league, have you ever heard the saying.."be careful what you wish for" mate?..

30 Sep 2015 18:59:37
Isit wrong that I don't see our strikers getting us over the line? That coq cazorla aren't a title pairing? That Ramsey is a cm not a right wing. And that a believe griezmann would walk in our team lol

30 Sep 2015 19:03:05
In reality all last night changed was a few peoples perceptions of how good we are and there opinion of what is possible under Arsene.
We were never going to challenge for the champions league and ko stages or last 16 what's the difference? Apart from that is the clubs bank balance as both are a long long way from success, unless you use the Arsene/Arsenal method of measurement.
The premier league is the same 4th or 5th what's it really matte apart from dosh again both are as far from top spot as ever in the grand scheme of things.
We either need to change how things are done or just accept who we are and stop talking big club talk about titles and champions league winning its getting more and more embarrassing by the season

30 Sep 2015 19:55:15
Eds its worth the risk I feel. Gone on to long now fella he won't change his ways. We will be more than 3points off too stop come may easy

{Ed025's Note - its going to be a bumpy ride for most teams derby, it could turn out to be the most open prem in years mate, i fully expect arsenal to be in the shake up but that may depend on whether the fans actually support..or bitch about everything after only 7 games..

30 Sep 2015 20:42:46
Congratulations on the dream Derby, but that's all it is mate. Some of us choose to live in reality instead. You say "it's worth the risk" as though it may actually happen. It's obvious Wenger is going nowhere, you must know that? So accept it, get behind your team, and let's hope for a great season.

{Ed025's Note - well said UG..

30 Sep 2015 20:59:04
To be fair Ubi most would say both you and Derby are dreamers, his dreams maybe far fetched but you hoping for us to have a great season sounds every bit as unrealistic as Derby's fantasy, unless,you count 4th as a great season?
I don't think city utd or chelsea fans would be calling that a great season for their club, if you dream is winning £1 on a scratch card then that's very achievable but not very exciting dream to most where as Derby might dream of winning the euro millions record pay out on the same day his premium bonds and pools come up and Biancé delivers the cheque and falls madly in love with him, not at all likely to happen but still if your going to dream at all you might as well make it worth the effort.

30 Sep 2015 21:27:47
I want us to do the best we can with what we've got and support my team. If you think being in a fantasy, picking players and managers from around the globe who we would sign in a parallel universe, and slagging of your own club is preferable to supporting your team, then all the very best of luck with that.

30 Sep 2015 21:34:48
Ubi do you not see what football is now. Its not a fantasy its what we need. City were mid table once and look what's happens. Atletico Madrid dreamt of a title win. One day we will challenge just not with the current set up. The foundations are there. If Wenger goes a top manager would jump at the club

Eds I just want a change. Some people go through life same old accept stuff. Naa aim for the top mate.

30 Sep 2015 22:04:25
But Wenger isn't going Derby.

30 Sep 2015 22:30:17
That's the problem Ubi its not your team its our team, if the majority think 4th or even 3rd is the best we can be no matter whos in charge then that's where WE are.
I'm not saying we can finish ahead of Chelsea and city but I do think we have the capabilities of pushing them much much harder and closer than we have in the past or do at present.
Mate we're all passionate one way or the other but its not Arsenes club and it certainly isn't yours either, just because people see things differently doesn't to you and those currently in control doesn't make them less loyal or worthy supporters.

30 Sep 2015 11:30:21
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Is the English Premier League overhyped?

30 Sep 2015 08:09:28
That is it.
It is not "knee jerk" it's the final rivet.

It's sad to see someone go on too long and potentially ruin their legacy but M. Wenger is becoming embarrassing whenever he opens his mouth. As for his rationale behind team selection, it is baffling, mind boggling.
WENGER OUT.
Ancelotti in for this and next season along with one of Vieira, Bergkamp or Mark Warburton as his No 2.

Wengers mind isn't focussed. His domestic situation cannot fail to have had some impact and whilst he probably deserves some empathy and understanding he should also recognise his waning influence and lack of innovation.

Who will be remembered as more successful? Fergusen or Wenger? No contest.
Wenger has been innovative, a revelation, a pioneer, a genius, a standard-bearer, a winner, an ambassador for all that is great and good about Arsenal and I will always be thankful for his reign and all the good times: the list is just too long. But for his sake, and ours....

WENGER OUT.

30 Sep 2015 09:01:58
Wenger has a style of play and it was extremely successful but been diminishing for years.
He's not a motivator or capable of building up a players confidence who's struggling if your not a a naturally confident and tough enougg mentally to ignore the bad games and only think about your good games you will struggle under Arsene.
The Ox is a fantastic young player who does take to heart his mistakes and needs an extremely good manager who knows when to cuddle as well as berate but Arsene knows niether just his philosophy. His tactics aren't great and he gives the opposition manager lots of time to get prepare in a certain way because we will set up as we always set up.
Arsene has stayed to long and its showing more and more each season.

30 Sep 2015 06:45:12
Didn't see game because every bar I went to was showing Chelsea game.

Not a happy bunny.

30 Sep 2015 07:53:23
Time for a change I thinkk

30 Sep 2015 08:30:23
People are laughing at us and its hard not to see their point, its a long way back to being taken seriously as anything more than a would be big team from here.

30 Sep 2015 01:02:23
Well what a poor performance I don't think chamberlain or Walcott deserve to start both impact players at best! Carzola should play deep in the champions leauge Ramsey and coquelin should start. Well we definitely need at least 3 players in Jan but as we know Wenger won't sign anyone. Still quite shocked that the English teams aren't on the level they used to be

29 Sep 2015 23:51:21
No point in a post mortem. Let the season play and if it keeps going like this then maybe change will happen. I'm afraid it's going to be death then rebirth! Although I wish that wasn't the case.