Arsenal Banter Archive August 31 2017

 

Use our rumours form to send us arsenal transfer rumours.

31 Aug 2017 22:48:55
Hi all, reader for years and understand nearly everyone's opion. End of the day we all view things in our own eyes so will never agree with everyone but.
How can any Arsenal fans be happy with our club just now? No need for me to elaborate on our negatives but seriously no signings today surely shows just how weak we have become. Top to bottom shows just how low we have become as a club. It tests the best of us as fans does it not.

Believable2 Unbelievable1

{Ed025's Note - it does mate..

31 Aug 2017 23:11:14
Thanks for your swift reply ed, so frustrating when you have a 10 year old son and keep telling him Arsenal was THE team to support in 2007! Have so much to say but feel after reading this brilliant site you so long I feel it's all been said. No need for more negative so I would like to just say. fair play to all you eds! Yes I have my favourite eds but each and every one of you bring so much to this brilliant site!

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 22:40:03
I'm really shocked we didn't panic buy at the very least.
We can say what we want about Arsene but the bloke don't spook easily.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 22:21:15
Now if we could all keep calm at this post I'm Intrested to hear some views. Quite a few people last season said how they'd like to finish out of the top 4 or think it'll do us good, how do you feel right now? Really has gone tits up this summer hasn't it.

Believable2 Unbelievable0

{Ed025's Note - im afraid it has mate..

31 Aug 2017 23:42:20
D16 I put my hand up, I for one said that and I'm really disappointed as I was hoping a major changes at the club.
I mean what the hell I was expecting from our board and shareholders.

Agree0 Disagree0

01 Sep 2017 00:15:05
Putting a bit of context. I think people wishfully thought a finish outside top 4 would catalyst for change, hopefully manager. Unfortunately as we have come to know over recent years, no one is held accountable for anything they do at our club, sorry their business. The players are not held accountable for dismal performances by our manager. He in turn isn't held accountable for any of his bewildering decisions by our non existent board. Rather he is rewarded.

Agree0 Disagree0

01 Sep 2017 01:26:32
Arsenal mate I'm not putting it out of context. Least I'm not meaning too. People thought finishing outside the top 4 would be a catalyst for change. They was wrong. Same way I thought arsene finally learnt and will change this summer. I hold my hands up and say I was gullible and wrong. Same again next summer no doubt.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 23:24:05
It has Ed. I thought finishing outside the top 4 wouldn't be a wake up call it'll get worse from there. Then I thought after a promising start it'll be ok. Sadly not. Just wondered how those who wanted that feel now? I am lost for words what is happening.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed025's Note - its bloody mindedness from wenger and kronke is rubbing his hands im sure D16, and for everything arsene has achieved at arsenal it will all go out the window if they are not even challenging for the top spots, now i know its very early in the piece mate...but it does not look good at all..

31 Aug 2017 22:11:33
Tell you what; who ever is writing all those farewell messages on the Arsenal Twitter feed has really put in a shift.

Believable2 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 21:56:33
I am simply livid at the whole saga. We have no ambition anymore, we are owned by someone who doesn't care about football just money. We have been keeping the purse strings pulled tight year after year whilst the fans pay more and more.

We are managed by a man who i admired for keeping to a plan whilst the stadium was being paid off and did his best to keep us as high up the league and compete in the cups as he could. The problem is that his plan has now ended and he hasn't or can't come up with a new plan to compete any more.

I know having the most expensive players doesn't guarantee trophies (Leicester) proved it but having a squad of strong willed players tht can dig in when required or change the play when needed or have some guts when you are up against will give you a better chance of winning silver.

Transfer windows should be used not only to strengthen your squad but shake up those that feel too comfortable. By selling all players we have without replacing or strengthening just makes it more comfortable for some of the players that need a shake. Sorry for the rant but just can't believe what is going on.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 22:12:06
Top post sweetspot.

Bang on.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 22:15:46
Arsenal have done literally everything wrong, good money for ox but those contracts should have been sorted earlier but no, Sanchez should have been sold for 60 million but no instead he will go for free and have a poor season as quite frankly he's gaurnteed to play for chile anyway, he'll be mopey and just bad for morale. When him ozil leave in frees there are no players there that other top players will think 'I want to play for arsenal I can work under arsene and play with X'. I actually worry for you guys.

Agree2 Disagree2

31 Aug 2017 22:28:38
Read somewhere that Arsene is in France commentating on a game! When your manager is more concerned at his wage packet than running your club you know how deep in the mire you are.
This is just plain wrong, simple as that.

Agree1 Disagree2

31 Aug 2017 22:37:59
spot on.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 23:38:43
Sagalout, I'm not buying that. Many of these commentators and pundits are contracted. Unlike Sanchez, at least Wenger honours his contract.

Agree0 Disagree1

31 Aug 2017 21:35:22
Can't believe we haven't signed anybody.

I blame the Ed's 😁.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

{Ed033's Note - What happened no Nobody?

31 Aug 2017 22:13:02
Yep, we should have signed anybody.

Good player 😁.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:21:52
thanks eds for all your hard work during this window.

Believable3 Unbelievable0

{Ed025's Note - your welcome mate.

31 Aug 2017 21:59:50
Yes agree, its a pity you don't work at arsenal football club.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 22:00:05
100%. Huge thanks to all the Eds.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed033's Note - you're welcome 62.

31 Aug 2017 22:14:02
Totally agree.

All the Ed's are a credit to a fantastic site.

Keep up the good work Ed's.

Agree1 Disagree0

{Ed025's Note - we will dags....cheers..

31 Aug 2017 21:21:35
think that is it no signings coming in now bad summer and season ahead i think.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 21:06:00
what a shambles. We'll be lucky to get Europa League football next season.

Believable5 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 21:05:40
Hey guys here in peace but a question for you?

With the ongoing Sanchez saga, arsene said he wouldn't sell unless they could get a high profile replacement?

Forgive me/ educate me if I'm wrong but I though Lacazzette was supposed to be his replacement was he not?

Believable2 Unbelievable2

31 Aug 2017 21:16:15
Not as far as I know.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:16:34
Simply. no.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:31:42
I think Lacazette is an out and out Centre Forward.

Lemar would be classed as a Sanchez replacement.

Agree3 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:28:04
Winger and a forward nope.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:44:39
Ok fair play, just with all the talk about Sanchez I wondered why Lacazzette had been brought in.

Shame on Lemar deal though, he just scored a cracking goal.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 20:52:59
As I suspect, is that us done then Eds? This is going to be a savage season.

Believable2 Unbelievable0

{Ed025's Note - not looking good bobby, i can see the banners and light aircraft industries being very busy this season mate..

31 Aug 2017 20:45:14
Steve r how can u be happy Sanchez is staying? He doesn't want to be here and it's only gunna cause us problems over the next 10 months. The harmony in the dressing room is worse with him I for one can't be bothered watching him sulk should have took our 60mil and ran.

Believable4 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 21:20:50
I have no problem with him sulking as you put it. He's our best player by a mile. For me I would be more concerned why he sulks. He doesn't like losing and watching all the antics going on around him. Guess what, neither do I.

Agree0 Disagree1

31 Aug 2017 21:30:39
I'd say Arsenal should welcome Sanchez right back into the first XI - of the reserves. That is, if his attitude doesn't change.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:37:04
I agree Steve

Spot on.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 22:39:51
replacing him now was the right call. 60million and move on. walking on a free and I guess ozil will follow.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 20:34:35
Di maria? Turan? Draxler?

Believable0 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 20:51:55
Snap? Crackle? Pop? πŸ˜‚.

Agree3 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:32:41
Nobody? Nobody? Nobody?

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 20:23:00
A Forest fan here in peace. I think its so sad to see what's happening to a great team as Arsenal. Always had a soft spot for them. I have a question for you guys, who as fans do you think is responsible for this mess your in is it the board or the manager? I hope you get this sorted soon as you deserve better. All the best for this season.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 20:45:46
Yes mate it's ultimately the board for giving Wenger a two year contract. They had a chance to start a new exciting era and showed their weakness in putting this club back years. It's a game moving on at lightning pace ( because of the obscene money ) and we are still living in the past with past it ideas. There is no new forward thinking people at the club and its full of yes men in comfy suits.

Agree1 Disagree1

31 Aug 2017 20:55:22
There is only one answer and that is Kroenke.

Aside from the fact he has no love of football and has himself stated he has no desire to win trophies, seeing that as a task for clubs such as United, City and Chelsea he continues, despite clear and unequivocal evidence, to employ Wenger.

You can't blame Wenger because who would turn down Β£8 million a year to do as you please, fail constantly, make countless mistakes all with absolute impunity.

Kroenke is a blight on this club and needs to fork off and take Wenger with him.

We are pitiful and Wenger, when the window has shut, will believe the fact he has kept a player here who not only has no interest in being here but clearly dislikes him will appease the fans.

Agree2 Disagree0

{Ed025's Note - i really want to disagree with you stoner and call you negative, but i cant mate cos its true..

31 Aug 2017 20:59:17
At the risk of upsetting TG the board gave us what the majority of Arsenal fans wanted at the time.
Very few clubs sack managers that still have the fans backing and that was never going to happen with our board who seem to simply want a quite life.
We can if we want blame the board 100% but that isn't the reality of the situation, they are not alone in thier backing Arsene so we need to take collective responsibility to move forward.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed025's Note - move on you mean G62...forward is not a place arsenal are going anytime soon im afraid mate..

31 Aug 2017 21:21:26
62,

Mate Gazidis said they looked at other candidates and put sentiment aside and found Wenger to be the best candidate to take us forward.

They I have little doubt did not concern themselves with what any portion of the fan base did or didn't want that is pretty clear.

How his recent CV put him ahead of Allegri god only knows but make no mistake the desire of the fans had no role in his new contract.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:22:54
I don't want to believe myself ed and never thought I would but I cannot wait until he has gone. He's literally killing us.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:29:07
stan kroenke.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed033's Note - Fan Dabi Dozi

31 Aug 2017 22:10:41
I make you 100% righr Ed025 mate.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 19:48:15
Hi Ed,

When the dust has settled, can you maybe provide a comment on the allegedly muntinous situation in the dressing room? If so many players want out and others evidently wouldn't sign/ re-sign, what is going on?

Thanks

Thanks.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 19:35:07
So the improvement on last season is to sell/ loan:

Szczesny
Martinez
Toral
Gibbs
Gabriel
Hinds
Oxlade
Perez
Wilshere - possibly

& replace them with
Lacazette
Kolasinac

Allow Ozil and Sanchez to stay and run down their deal.

Mustafi clearly wanted out and Mertesacker retires at the end of the season.

Lemar didn't want to sign for us.

Its a complete and utter mess, thanks to Wenger. Now the board must act and swiftly. The Liverpool and Stoke match explained that Wenger is no longer capable of managing us. Its sad to see and mid-table mediocrity beckons.

Believable2 Unbelievable5

31 Aug 2017 19:43:24
I see spurs are very busy R. G. while building that monster of a stadium while Arsenal are doing absolute nothing and are falling faster than the ravers pants in a Amsterdam brothel. Even ox chamberlain took a massive pay cut to join Liverpool COWABUNGA.

Agree3 Disagree3

31 Aug 2017 19:50:41
Raver61 - remind us what you have won while we won 3 FA Cups and 3 Community Shields? Remind us the last time you won the league? As you well know the pain at the lane and Wembley just goes on. 1961 and waiting, nearly 60 years of abject failure.

Agree1 Disagree2

31 Aug 2017 20:02:08
I'm not into crowing raver but RG is correct.

Agree2 Disagree1

31 Aug 2017 20:07:13
So have we actually spent any money this year or are we ££££ up.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 20:27:15
RG I agree you've had your day, the futures does not look good though. and please don't regurgitate the community shield, you'll be crowing about the Hemorrhoids cup next and calling yourself Oddknob.

Agree2 Disagree1

31 Aug 2017 20:33:54
We can't take spuds seriously until they actually win something and they are miles away from that. I don't actually think they've had a good window either.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 20:43:34
North East Spur - 6 trophies over the last four seasons, what's the toots excuse? Another false dawn, I recall Rednapp's era at the Toot, they were the best team with the future national manager. Did he win anything at the toot? Possibly a league cup? Did he manage the national team? No the toot flattered to decieve and Redknapp is at Birmingham. We are going through a difficult period and yet we have still won trophies. don't belittle the Community Shield, to remind youit is a trophy played between the winners of the PL and the FA Cup, something the toot know very little about! We have had a very poor start to the season and yet we are only a point behind the toot, who haven't won at Wembley this season, whilst we lifted a trophy there in August, on your home ground yet again. Remember we won the league title twice at that old dump WHL. The challenge I always offer raver is to list the trophies won by the toot in his lifetime and he cowardly avoided doing so. let's see if you have more courage than him? I suggest keeping quiet, vey quiet until your team or manager actually win a trophy. Mind you with Man C, Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool all improving their squads thsi summer and the toot away from a lower league style ground, I can't see it myself. 1961 and waiting the pain at the lane and Wembley just goes on. Yes 1961!

Agree0 Disagree1

31 Aug 2017 20:46:45
Well spuds can't crow about winning anything. Lol.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:12:32
We can always crow about being the first club to do it all.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:23:18
Raver trouble is memories fade after decades and decades. Lol.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:15:18
Somebody's upset with what's happening with their teams transfer business, nobody will come and sign for you unless you pay way over the odds transfer or salary. look at what position your club is in, absolute Armageddon. everyone wants out.

RG61 listen to me, your finished, do you hear me finished, finished and you know it.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed033's Note - If you're happy and you know it clap your hands.

31 Aug 2017 21:38:14
Steve don't mention decades to me, I don't remember what happened this afternoon lol.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 19:30:15
Is Arsenal really looking at bringing Rabiot in? Would be nice to see them (start to) address CM.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 19:15:25
What amazes me is how clueless Wenger is in many respects and yet we have won 6 trophies over the last four seasons.

The latest bad business;
Perez singed for Β£17m last season and now loaned out.
Gabriel bought for Β£15m a couple of seasons ago and now sold for Β£10m.

Sanchez bought for Β£32m - likely go on a free at the end of he season.
Ozil bought for Β£42m, likely to go on a free at the end of the season
Debuchy bought for Β£12m, now worthless.
Wilshere was worth a fortune and now he is likely to go for free at he end of the season.

I appreciate some players have increased in value, but writing off tens of millions is ludicrous. No wonder Gazidis wanted a Director of football brought in.

I can't see us having a good season unless something drastic happens before the window closes and Wenger will be hounded out of the club by the fans, probably by Christmas.

Believable4 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 19:03:00
I find it crazy how we haven't signed a cb or cdm. Honestly baffles me so much.

Believable4 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 19:07:06
Agree, Massive defensive problems, no leaders at the back, and no defensive stability but sign a LB/ LWB and a striker. I haven't seen the change that was promised. They are hanging themselves this year before season has started.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 19:32:34
I'm not one to get angry, but we don't have the most patient fans and this is honestly not good for the club. The atmosphere around the emerites will be horrendous and will only get worse after a another bad result. Wenger is leaving himself out to dry here.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 21:23:30
Some of our fans are embarrassing, However, After waiting all summer i can see that the fans are just frustrated that fans show more passion and ambition than the club does. It's a rich mans sport and no longer the Sean Bean advert, exciting, thrill ride and end of working week release the normal folk crave.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 19:00:51
Surely the fact we haven't rejected Alexis's bid means we might be working on something.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 19:11:42
Exactly my thinking, obviously trying something but imo he doesn't even need replacing, we need defensive players.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 19:36:40
To be perfectly honest, I want the man gone. Had enough of it all summer long.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:43:11
So, we've received a 40M bid for Bellerin. I say, we take it, and bring back Eboue, who will be done his FIFA ban in March of this year. When he's available, it will be like a new signing!

Believable4 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 19:09:40
Not bad idea, but Arsenal probably would recall Jenkinson because they wouldn't want to have to break into the 40 million to offer a sign on fee.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:34:01
Where will Sanchez head be when he returns from international duty I wonder.
He is a great pro and I'm sure he will give 100% of what he has left to give Arsenal but because he wanted to get away so badly you have to wonder what he actually has left in the tank when it comes to playing for us again.

Believable1 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 18:45:02
He's not a great pro sorry - he has played at 50% for the whole of 2017. You think he'll get any better forced to stay at a club in massive decline? Seems unlikely to me.

Agree2 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 19:03:13
Nice to see you back Ghost. 😁.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 19:06:59
How many goals last season? Are 50%? No wonder city want him just imagine if what he could do at 100% :-)
He's been brilliant and carried the team since he arrived, just not sure he has the strength to do it anymore.

Agree0 Disagree1

31 Aug 2017 19:41:38
Some people gunner come out with some right whoppers don't they ha ha. What do they watch.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:33:58
Journalists these days, guillem balague says "Lemar is with Oliver Giroud, Laurent Koscielny and Alexandre Lacazette right now, with the France national team. They will be telling him, banging on this door, getting him to join Arsenal, but he will say no. He does not want to go. " as reported on sky, I mean how the hick he know what they will be saying to each others. Its just tiring.

Believable0 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 21:23:04
Guillem balague once was an opinion of some credibility but since his dalliance with sky he has traded info for cash or should I say dis info and euphoria he is now a joke . We can be all bought and sold . I know his online companion and know that he is a disinformation agent.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:22:41
I'm actually stunned today. It's just looking so grim for us. A player we've bid for 92m has turned us down because he prefers a move to Liverpool. We really have got problems.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

{Ed002's Note - No he didn't.}

31 Aug 2017 18:32:56
so ed what did happen then? did we even make a bid or is it just sly sports creating storeys for deadline day?

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed002's Note - It is too late for the medical to be conducted. Wardak had said earlier that Lemar's desire was to play in the CL and he also said at that time Arsenal had not confirmed the package for the player.}

31 Aug 2017 18:35:37
That's great you replied to this ed I certainly value your information than the journalists who I saw said that. May I ask if you know if lemar deal is dead or was all this 92m offer rubbish.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:39:45
Is that irony ed or is that a fact 🀣.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:46:44
Ed may technically be correct - but the general sense of the crisis at the club in this post is entirely right.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:56:10
Ah that's so annoying ed. dunno why we leave it so late. Is the club working on anyone coming in that you know of Ed? I need something to cling my hope on to πŸ˜‚.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:17:46
Any news on Draxler?
And is there anything in these Rabiot rumours?

Believable0 Unbelievable0

{Ed002's Note - (a) Not any more. (b) I don't know of any such rumours.}

31 Aug 2017 18:13:25
Don't spurs look like Arsenal 15 years ago! Funding a new stadium keeping players happy and astute signings! On the plus side we can afford to have 50 years off and spurs would have to have some success to just about level with the Arsenal.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 18:41:24
That's our official Spurs excuse sorted now we just need another 4 or 5 for other excuses to make us feel better about other teams likely to have a brighter few next few years ahead :-) I guess we've still got that old history Chestnut and of course the ever dependable invincibles to throw at peole over 25 who are likely to remember it :-)

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:48:11
Well we're going to let them catch up over the next two years for sure - and then they'll have the bigger stadium too.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:57:16
And when we're REALLY desperate for an excuse, we just blame Trump. I suggest using this one sparingly though.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 19:00:22
Why don't we use ravers logic and build an extra 20,000 seats at the Emirates and we'll be the biggest club in England.

Sorted. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 19:25:35
We all know spuds will crash . I'm trying to find anything other than bashing Arsenal.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:56:28
Ed, any information on who Arsenal have been looking at as their future manager post Wenger? I know you mentioned Allegri was first choice, just wondered if others are being considered and whether or not Allegri's interest has gone.

Also who would your choices be if you were in charge?

ps big thanks for all the hard work of all the Eds, must be the busiest time of year for you!

Believable2 Unbelievable0

{Ed002's Note - Try asking next week.}

31 Aug 2017 18:14:22
Why ed because that's when he will be installed 🀣.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:15:33
I forgot to add I second that sforza they have been bang at it.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:50:52
How can we justify that every other club has gotten stronger but us? It defies logic.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 18:17:28
Whatever your view about the manager before today. We now have to agree this is a very 'strange' way to run a club. Let alone a multi million pound business. This borders on incompetence.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 18:51:37
'borders'? Taking it you are using the word in the same way that Hendrix bordered on being a great guitarist or the Beatles bordered on being successful? Less borders and more rampantly incompetent from top to bottom.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:42:11
I've taken the opportunity to take the odds I found that arsenal will sign nobody on transfer deadline day. I got evens. Lemar won't happen and I doubt Draxler or anyone else will.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 17:36:55
It gets worse by the hour.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 17:47:47
Don't worry - given how badly we've bought in recent years nothing will help. So bad day - bad summer - when was it any different?

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:12:44
Should the board allow Wenger to sign lemar when he's future is in doubt.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 17:24:28
Bid has broken down lol

We are great at this aren't we.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:34:30
It sums our useless negotiators up. Lemar can't have a medical as the French national manger won't release him! If nothing gives and we keep Sanchez and Ozil, they will in all likleyhood depart for nothing at the end of the season, a loss in the region of Β£100m, plus they will have to be replaced! Bring back David Dein and quick.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:41:56
Banbury you know we're buying no one, you've said it yourself. 😁.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:11:41
now reports saying we have pulled out as not enough time to get the deal done wtf.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 17:02:38
Β£92million for Thomas Lamar! Arsenal you have had an absolute mare! So funny!

Believable4 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 17:01:48
I think if this 92 million bid for Lemar is true, we should all stop doubting Kroenke's ambition at Arsenal.

Believable0 Unbelievable4

31 Aug 2017 17:08:46
Sanchez and ox money paying for it.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:10:02
deal is already off apparently arsenal don't think they have enough time to get the deal done, make of that what you may.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:10:27
Some one posted this earlier. I think it speaks volumes of arsenal!

31 Aug 2017 16:24:25
Out
Gibbs Β£7m
Gabriel Β£10m
Toral Β£3m
Hinds Β£2m
Sanchez Β£60m
Oxlade Β£40m
Szczesny Β£13m
Total Β£135m

In
Lacazette Β£50m
Kolasinac Β£0
Lemar Β£90m
Total Β£140m

With loan fees, etc - a net spend of virtually zero!

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:16:05
Yeah it's ox money and Sanchez money. Should thank them really.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 16:53:25
If we get lemar and he has a slow start Wenger will get stick for not buying mahrez for half the price premier league experience.

Believable3 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 17:16:55
To be fair he has left himself open. He won't be able to do right for doing wrong mate.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:26:40
lemar not happening he wants to go liverpool.

Agree2 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 16:43:10
Wenger said that alexis is not for sale. maybe maby it't true:) Lacazette, Lemar and Kolasiniac In, Ox (+ some others none first team players) out.

It might not look so dark after all.

Dear football god, plase let us keep (a happy) alexis.

Believable0 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 17:10:24
Wenger can claw back some dignity by signing Lamar then sticking the finger to city! Show some nuts and spend some dough! Then I woke up πŸ˜‚.

Agree1 Disagree1

31 Aug 2017 17:18:16
If Sanchez stays and lemar comes in plus getting rid of some fringe players plus the two signed earlier then we would have been buzzing start of summer. Not the personnel we need but happy enough.

Agree0 Disagree1

31 Aug 2017 17:53:09
Keeping Sanchez is nuts. He may have been our best . player (that says nothing) but his attitude stinks. No defender, no holding midfield player, no creative - the worst Arsenal team since the days of Terry Mancini!

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 16:29:40
Β£92m for Lemar, is he that good?

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 16:38:57
He's not that good yet rg! I'm not going to look at the negitives to much and it's better than nothing but it appears that at that fee it's the ox plus Sanchez money combined . And if that's what we're willing to pay why offer 30m at the beginning of the summer. If we had addressed defenders and a DM I would have said this was a great window with Sanchez going or not . But in reality we are pining our hopes on a 21 year old with one great season behind him achieved with a team fully of better players. This is desperation to keep the fans at bay. But it's not going to work I'm afraid .

Agree2 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 16:48:33
Is it really happening?

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:02:15
I think it's 30mill too much.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:03:04
Reports he preferd Liverpool, reports we withdraw from the deal. I'll have a heart attack following arsenal Twitter on TDD!

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 16:29:08
92 mill bid for lemar.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 16:26:08
92million bid for Lemar is he really that good.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 16:24:25
Out
Gibbs Β£7m
Gabriel Β£10m
Toral Β£3m
Hinds Β£2m
Sanchez Β£60m
Oxlade Β£40m
Szczesny Β£13m
Total Β£135m

In
Lacazette Β£50m
Kolasinac Β£0
Lemar Β£90m
Total Β£140m

With loan fees, etc - a net spend of virtually zero!

If Wilshere departs we have 21 senior pros and four empty spots in our 25 man squad.
We desperately need a CB and DM - Van Dyke Β£60m and Nzonzi Β£30m, so a spend of Β£90m and a strong squad. Wenger will end up with a net spend of virtually zero and a weaker squad than last season. Its a joke!

Believable2 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 16:36:54
Lack of champs league is tiring our hands and we won't push the boat out.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed025's Note - but if you dont steve it will be the same every season, you have to speculate to accumulate mate but kronke and wenger think they know better..

31 Aug 2017 16:39:57
I'd take drink water.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 16:30:06
{Ed's Note - a new writer and former owner of another football site has joined the Ed crew and has posted a new article entitled, How Football Transfer Rumours are mostly Fabricated which discusses his experiences of clickbaiting

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 16:17:32
Look before I start I'm not sticking up for Wenger. Something very strange is happening at the moment at Arsenal. The fans are told Wenger signing is a catalyst for change and they've got Β£150m to spend. Summer starts off nicely with the signing of Lacazette and Kolisniac. Wenger says Sanchez is definitely not for sale. Squad players are sold for a combined fee over Β£70m. Come the final week of the transfer window Arsenal say they have no money and it's looking likely Sanchez will leave. I'm starting to get the feeling that the problems with the club start at board level and all they care about is making money. Perhaps Wenger came out and said he wants to keep Sanchez so that the board would be under pressure not to sell. The problems on the pitch are Wengers and the players. Signings and the way the club is run is Kroenke and the board. I know it's easy to blame one individual but the problems with Arsenal are much bigger than just Arsene. Its starts at the top and trickles down. Board, Manager and Players. I think Wengers being made a scapegoat and if fans really want change they have to put pressure on the board. Then they might finally spend big and actually change manager. Its easy for them at the moment because fans are directing all their anger at Wenger whilst the board kick back and still make a profit from our poor performances on the pitch.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 16:28:51
Wenger controls everything at the club, not Kroenke. The criticism of Kroenke is that he backs his manager too much. Wenger views football as a profit making business and with no CL football this season he won't spend a penny on transfers. Assuming Sanchez departs for Β£60m and Lemar arrives for Β£90m, then as I have shown in a comment on thsi site, Arsenal will have spent virtually nothing on players this window.

Agree2 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 16:30:26
I wasn't aware that Arsenal said they had no money for signings. I was under the impression that this "no money" thing was said by one reporter. Am I wrong?

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 15:16:29
Jack surely can't be off to Birmingham?

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 15:55:22
No way.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 16:06:10
With Cazorla out for most of the season surely we should have kept Wilshere. Indeed if you exclude young players that don't form part of the 25 man PL squad and omit those likely to go or be omitted, such as Debuchy and Perez, omit Wilshere and Cazorla, we only have 21 players. If Sanchez goes without being replaced we only have 20 first team players. I don't believe Wenger has the ability to keep a 25 man squad happy.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 16:21:35
Looking at last season the only way Jack can stay fit over a long period is to stay out of the game for moast of it and play 20 yards or so either side of the half way line waiting for the ball to come to him, is that really any good to us? If he gets involved and gives 100% he's injured for most of the season, sad but true unfortunately.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 15:07:16
Lads, spare a thought for the Eds. They have their work cut out for them today across all the pages.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 15:34:08
God bless them. we can make it easier for them tho.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:49:03
Looks like Sanchez bid has been accepted.

Believable0 Unbelievable2

31 Aug 2017 15:14:08
surely not, i thought wenger said he was staying . ha ha ha , the one thing that annoys me is this was always going to happen, why not sort it out early, get a replacment and not let it effect the start of the season, same with the ox, some seriously weird decisions be made in the club at the minute.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 15:30:10
Clearly some internal issues.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 15:35:19
We had the same situation with Van Persie. Copy paste.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:38:01
Who is calling the shots at arsenal?! I've never understood it. All arsenal needed to do for "good business" in this transfer window, was to create a strong spine that we've been missing for so many years. I'm sick and tired of all our players leaving because of the apparent lack of ambition.

Why couldn't we just sign a holding midfielder, someone to back up Ozil, Sanchez, Ramsey or whoever. (Xhaka is not the answer to this) OR, if we're not going to sign anyone else in there at least play coquelin in with Xhaka/ Ramsey as he's the only decent holding mid we've got in my opinion and I actually rate him quite highly! It's also obvious to see we should invest in at least one mean centre back to go with the kolasinac signing. This would challenge the ageing koscielny who admittedly, is still quality at the moment, and be back up in case Mustafi ends up going.

Every fellow arsenal fan I speak to seams to understand that these are the areas we need to improve yet nothing EVER seems to be done about it. We just continue to sign "bargains" or when we do actually spend the money, it's on some kind of small, lacking-in-strength yet extremely technical player who we don't need another of, or youngster nobody's heard of and so on. Wenger does make good signings but somebody at arsenal seems to be ignoring the OBVIOUS areas where we need improvement. I don't know about anyone else but I really have found it exhausting being an arsenal fan these past however many years. Kill me.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 14:31:47
seems like were going bavk in for lemar see ya sanchez.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 14:27:55
80-90m for Lemar. Exciting, but couldn't we have bought a defender and an actual CDM for that? Not to moan and whinge too much.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 14:18:50
Must say i'm genuinely gutted the Ox has left. He might not have the greatest end product and his stats over the past 6 years do not suggest 'world class', but I have no doubt he will continue to get better and his ability to run with he ball brings genuine excitement. It doesn't always work, but he is willing to gamble and take risks to beat his man. I agree there is no point keeping an un-happy player, but the Ox was someone I could see staying for much longer than he has. All the best to him.

Believable1 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 15:02:29
Lefty, you'll be in a minority. I'm surprised Arsenal didn't pick up the Uber tab to get him to Liverpool.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:05:38
I know most of you guys here lost your trust amd beliefs in the transfer window but I have this feeling something will turn up good.
Personally I'm not too fussed about the Ox he's been inconsistent over the year and his injury record ain't that great. Loads might disagree I know but he won't be a massive miss especially Wenger never used him in a proper possition.
Only 9hours to go so fingers crossed 🀞 Wenger will do something good in his late late life.
COYG.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 15:05:20
Moe, I stay positive right up to the next transfer window and then rinse and repeat. If I let myself get dejected by transfers (or lack thereof) and how these players perform, I'd be steve. r The Sequel.

Chin up Gooners, things can only get better!

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 15:21:18
Sharpie you sound like Bod.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 15:36:25
Bite your bloody tongue malaga. I've never been called anything nastier in my puff! I thought we was mates.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 16:56:02
That's an embarrassment to me Malaga, how dare you.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 17:21:30
Hey bod, I don't do the rounds of other sites pi**ing people off. I stay on this one and pi** off one or two of the Eds and the rest of you motley crew.

Bottom line, my annoyance is containing and your is like a plague! 🀣.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:02:33
I don't think there will be any new signings today for arsenal. Which after our defensive frailties were brutally exposed against Liverpool, I'm stunned.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 13:09:59
I belive you will be proven correct, I just hope we go in for and sign Van Dyke and a new RWB, as well as N'Zonzi. I have a horrible feeling that we won't sign anayone.

Agree2 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:55:21
I agree Steve . don't laugh but a top ten finish is our target

Someone tell me why we don't start contract talks earlier why haven't we learnt from RVP.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:04:41
It would be unbelievable if additions don't come in without anyone else going let alone with people leaving left right and enter.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:01:55
anyone seen lemar : ( signs were there when we messed that deal up i guess.

whos in draxler? mahrez? sterling exhange? surely at least one lads.

stoner i'm sorry lol : (.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 13:33:35
back in for lemar then let's hope.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:12:40
Dreaming Derby

We just don't pay the money twice in a window.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:53:20
All joke aside mate, I really believe we are trying to secure a replacement for Sanchez such as draxler or Lemar before the deal is done with city.
I know Sanchez been great for us but with understandably aweful attitude I still think a move would better for the Arsenal camp, fresh faces and very good players. But I still think our major problem is the midfield. As our back ain't too bad just need organising and a sweeper in front of them.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:29:32
Hey no worries Derby but you should know Wenger better than that. πŸ˜‰.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:48:23
Stoner, you know the only person who KNOWS Wenger has passed away.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 15:45:36
Haha yes Sharpie, how could I forget and all that lost info! πŸ˜‚.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:00:04
Just drifting a little and not trying to justify the ox sale. I know there is a premium for young English players, not sure why but for what he has done so far, I think we got good money for the ox. I just hope we are saying the same in three years time.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 13:17:56
We got an exceptionally good price for Ox. I just don't know why we left it so late in the window to begin moving players on who clearly don't want to be here.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:19:01
I think so too steve. had he been mid contract and not in his final 11 mths, i'd still consider it good money.
But you know Klopp is going to improve him in ways Wenger didn't and never would have.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:28:06
Agree Shambo, the only problem is he's improved a rival squad.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:13:18
It was excellent money Steve I know who got the better deal.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:32:41
His career Arsenal stats don't make great reading:

132 games, 9 goals or 0.07 per game, 14 career assists, 20% cross completion, 84% pass completion, shooting accuracy 25%.

It's just a pity we are not buying an upgrade.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 12:43:49
I have a rumour. All the rumours are rumours. Arsenal excel at rumours, it is now club that teases with rumours but will not act. Have you noticed how we are consistently linked with top class players yet most of our signings tend to be either pointless (like Perez) , an empty shirt (like Xhaka) , or a wantaway shirt (like Mustafi) . There is something seriously adrift at Arsenal at every level of the club. More frustrated than I have ever been in supporting this club for over 40 years.

Believable1 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 10:53:43
I see good things will happen by the end of the day, even if we lose Sanchez. I know he's been our best player for miles but if he doesn't want to play for the shirt what can we do. I see a replacement on the cards already.
I got this from a very reliable sauces. Maybe katchup or mayo can't give you more than this guys 😜.

Believable2 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 11:26:43
we ain't getting anyone club has said there happy with the 2 signings they done.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 12:02:41
Go for it Mystic Moe :-)

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 12:37:24
Unless there is a bargain basement prospect in the offing, I expect Kroenke to pocket the proceeds of the Sanchez and Oxlade-Chamberlain sales. Arsenal are always surrounded with persistent rumours, but more often that not, fall short of signing the required players. We are a profit making club, with ambitions to go no further than that. Things will only change when the faces at the top are replaced.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 12:46:43
Urban, kroenke can't touch any money at the club. He's the majority share holder not the owner.

Agree2 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:00:08
G62, I'm pretty optimistic mate for a good end maybe not perfect but good. Usually I get really disappointed when I feel this way πŸ˜‚.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 15:21:23
Malaga, you are right he can't plunge his hand into the pot and swan off to the bank, that isn't how it works, I agree. But, if the club makes large profits, which it does, shareholders are the principal beneficiaries in dividends, no? And who is the majority shareholder? You think he is there for reasons of benevolence, or that he identifies with the club like we do? Or, do you think he is a businessman with a keen eye to making money?

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:38:07
:

Liverpool manager Jurgen Kloop has been spotted in Southampton looking for Dijk.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 10:54:29
Did he find him yet.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:54:43
Was he looking in the Edge and Box bar?

Agree2 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 11:27:50
Sauces got to wrong guys! It's Dick he was looking for.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 11:29:41
Stoner, I'm concerned that you know about that place. I had to Google it.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 12:00:50
Me too before I replied Sharpie. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:34:42
All quiet on the benzema front. Surely he's got to get a mention.

Believable2 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 11:27:07
at 10pm i bet steve.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:52:33
Good thing about Benzema is we already got his medical done about 7 years ago.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:32:33
Ok gunners, let's say RG dreams come true and we were able to shift all the names he keep mentioning and Alexis leaves too and we got Mahriz, Sari and van dijk or evans how do you guys feel about this transfer window, I know its not realistic bit let's say wenger pull his finger and do so, what you all think?

Believable0 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 10:56:04
But goodluck I always liked how arsenal conducted themselves hopefully this is just a blip.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 12:08:21
What a sad thing if that's what dream he wants to come true. Mine would involve Scarlett Johansson, Jennifer Lawrence some celery and a large pot of vaseline, and who cares about football.!

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:03:45
I only have one question. Who in the squad is going to be wearing the sari?

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:45:57
Haha Sharpy, I think it would suit Xhaka πŸ˜‚
But Damn you picking on my spelling lol.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:24:59
If Sanchez leaves and the others join (VVD won't he's got his heart set on Liverpool) if still see it as a poor window for you, lost a lot of players, still not sorted out other contracts, I can't see how this ends for ou guys. The sad thing is if Sanchez goes the calibre of player wanting to go to arsenal will change, realistically what top players will want to join arsenal to play with ozil, wellbeck and xhaka? Arsenal needs big changes. window would have been best sorting out contracts instead of burying heads.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 08:24:40
Today is going to be a dreadful day for us. no doubt more departures with no one to replace! Saying that, Johnny Evans will probably end up staying but why go to a rival club? Haha. I hope something magical happens today but then again the last 10 years haven't been, so why now!

Believable2 Unbelievable0

{Ed033's Note - If posters moan too much, they might find their posts being placed on the Other Arsenal Posts page.

31 Aug 2017 08:49:11
Please follow through with that! We need some positivity!

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 09:19:16
Just a question skywalker.
If we all band together with optimism and positivity and hold hands like carebears does this make one difference to the attitides and policies Arsene Wenger implements on behalf of Stan Kroenke?
Does it answer any of the perplexing and frustrating questions that hang over some of the decision making processes that contnue to stunt this club?
The people responsible for promoting and protecting positivity in relation to this football club right now are the silent money hungry owner, lying 'catylist for change' chief exec and deluded closed minded manager.
But you want us to play into their hands and ignore all the gross negligence these people have shown in relation to their roles and the contempt they have shown to us fans who they view as being no more than cattle with cash and credit cards.
Positivity for its sake is one thing but positivity just so you don't have to deal with the problems in this situation is at best counter productive and at worst deliberate PR spinning to ensure the money keeps coming in.
Do yourself a favour, if Arsenal is something you think anout daily and care about, and demand more from your club. Look to get out of it what you invest.
Im all for positivity, let's see some positive proactive, not reactive, action from the clubs figure head and decision maker Arsene Wenger. let's see him back this massive salary up as he's scrutinises inflation and overspending every where else on the game.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 09:40:39
I think you don't get it at all shambo. Your taking the positivity idea to an extreme. People who are displaying positivity ain't blind and most I've seen are now same as me fully behind the notion that Wenger should go and fully accept and agree with most you have to say mate. It's the constant venom and repetive bashing day in day out. Most if not all Arsenal fans are at the bottom mate and some would like to try and not feel so down about it and that makes it difficult when surrounded by people whining and moaning ten times a day on here saying the same thing over and over.

Agree2 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 09:47:34
Agree 100% Shambo. Are you sure your not my long lost twin.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 09:56:20
Think you said it perfectly Sanogo, I too agree with Shambo but you hit the nail on the head.

No matter what happens in this window, good or bad I truly cannot wait for Wenger to go.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:00:24
After this week things will calm down one way or the other, either people will be excited by someone like Draxler arriving or simply give up if nothing happens.
It's all the second guessing and trying to use logic to understand what should be happening that's driving people nuts.
Once the dust has settled on this window a calm acceptance will replace the disbelief and outrage.
Not long now people.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:11:44
Sanago really has said how I feel there. I'm not blind st all but the posts on here can be way over the top and repetitive. Wish the eds could do a whole moaning section so I don't have to read the same thing all day πŸ˜‚ And a
Deluded section so the moaners can avoid us with false hope.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:24:40
My point is that this is MAINLY a rumours site, or a site for Arsenal SUPPORTERS.

If you don't have a rumour and aren't offering support, what are you doing here?

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:36:15
I've definitely thumbed that Sanogo lad up. Or something like that.

D16, I can't believe you've forgotten to include an obituaries section. Shame on you! πŸ˜‡.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:37:09
We seem to be on the same page alright Steve. πŸ˜‚
Sanogo, maybe I don't get it and maybe you dont. Read my posts, there's never any venom or personal slander or name calling aimed at the people ushering our club into a state of rapid decline. I don't incite anyone else to resort to personal attacks either, I merely try to put proven historical acts of the people in charge of this club into context and try rationalise them, quite often the only way I can reconcile this is to surrender to the fact there is gross misconduct and negligence going unpunished and unaddressed at my football club, my football club that is a global powerhouse in the game but acts and operates like a lightweight for reasons I can't understand because they are shrouded in secrecy and a complete lack of transparency. If I were to compare Arsenal FC to another organisation it would be Scientology. Give us all your money, invest in our ideology, but don't question the authority.
I called Stan Kroenke silent and money hungry. Observe him, research his reputaion and how he is revered by the fans of his hockey team and AFL team. Its not up for debate and its not exactly slander.
Ivan Gazidis is a perpetual liar whos chief responsibility seems to be providing smokescreens and false dawns. Again this football club promote forward thinking and the promise for tomorrow or the next game so that we don't examine the past or engage in retrospective critical thinking. Were any of us to have the time to go back over the last dozen or so transfer windows and highlight the consistant inability to push through deals or conduct ourselves credibly well then I think there would honestly be a mass revolt. But who honestly thinks about the 40m plus Β£1 Suarez bid or turning our noses up at 34M for Higuain who then goes on to sell for double that to Juve two years later, the failure to trigger first option to bring Cesc back because it might 'stunt' Aaron Ramsey? I could go allday.
The first time these things happen you give the benefit of doubt. Its been 12 years of it now lads.
I don't call Wenger names. I respect him as he has merited. He was phenomenal. But he has driven his own agenda into the ground and us along with it and the further we declined the more closed off and rigid he has become. The idea and the approach he is persisting with is like iv said, counter productive at best and grossly negligent at worst, yet his contracts continue to rise and he continues to sign them.
Its my belief that if this false positivity rhetoric had been abandoned after the first 5 years of this carry on then we wouldn't be where we are now. All the WKBs could find their voices to give him the platform to plough on with his own rigid ideals but couldn't take the time to challenge them in a respectful and thought provoking way. And where are we now.
Arsene Wenger hasn't known best in over a decade. He monopolises the decision making processes of this club and acts in nunerous roles, doing none of them to the desired standard that will facilitate progress or meaningful change.
They don't even sigm players to give us a boost or for positivity reasons so don't give me the big spiel about getting behind a idealism that condsiders us fans as insignificant when it comes to their actions.
Life is short, Arsenal at this point in time will make it shorter for you.
Enough is enough now.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:45:23
Stepford fans you mean Skywalker :-)
Football is 100% dependant on fans passion and participation to survive and flourish.
Once a sport loses fans interest it's days are numbered and it's the same for any club too, I know former very emphasiastic Arsenal fans who have drifted away from the club and football simply because they became totally disillusioned by Arsenals lack of ambition to be more than 4th place make weights.
If the club are passionate about being all they can be sooner or later the fans will disappear as people following through force of habit only last so long.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:58:06
I am supporting my club.
Supporting its dire need for change by highlighting the utter state of neglect it finds itself in and by not allowing past instances of this neglegence to be disregarded purely for the baseless promise of future glory or 'catylists for change'.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 11:03:36
Shambo no one is disagreeing with, Sanogo is saying we are not BLIND but I'm guessing like you, we don't have the finances to do something about it.

I'd be more than happy to vent my feelings at the end of or prior to a game but not during it, our team needs all the help it can get.

Wenger really is, I'm sad to say, a busted flush but me voicing that over and over again on here achieves nothing but make most feel bloody miserable if we're not hacked off enough already.

Agree2 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 11:17:25
Like I say shambo your not really saying a lot wrong. But I believe you said it yesterday and the day before! Loud and clear mate . We're in a unique situation at our club where as I believe that Wenger won't be pushed or sacked so I think our hands are tied which is a discrace but I'm just trying to look to some kind of hope but it's hard mate.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 11:26:56
Shambo, I'll try and put it another way. Just because all of us don't react to a situation in the same way doesn't mean we aren't feeling the same things.

A hypothetical here: After two years of miserable weather, the sun finally comes out and it is a glorious day.

Ed025 will be thinking about all the barbecue he'll eat and all the Southern Comfort he'll wash it down with.

Steve. r will invariably moan about the colour of the sun, the fact that it's too hot, and that he hates the sound of birds chirping.

Raver will be allowed out to play in his blue Fisher Price push car that he so cutely calls his Subaru.

In short, they'll all enjoy the day in ways that brings them joy.

And on the flip side, they all also deal with angst in ways that makes sense to them.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 11:45:47
Ok, the last part of my message should have also included:

Most of us would go to watch Ed025 stuff his face or even Raver zipping about in his little blue car. Almost none of us want to hear steve moaning though. (Steve this is just a hypothetical so no offence meant)

And that's how most here feel when they hear the same things over and over again. They aren't blind, they aren't deluded, they aren't saying you're wrong.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 12:01:32
Sanogo,
I hear you bro. Maybe I need to step away from my own rigid principles and ideals.
RSharpe,
That post has changed my mood!
I just struggle with the lack of inclusion and the lack of respect I feel as a fan. Even things like the Mbappe interest seems deliberate purely for season ticket renewals.
I see Mahrez is off to Chelsea. Another who wanted us but we wouldn't follow through on. Ah well, heres to getting behind our new manager in 2019!

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:24:55
Shambo, don't change a thing, you are an excellent poster and like you say, you don't get personal. Look forward to reading your immaculate posts.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 14:12:04
I think he posts some very good points myself steve. As do you.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 15:00:21
Shambo definitely does make very good points. His posts are always coherent and he obviously puts a fair bit of thought into them. Not a fan I'd like to see so disillusioned that he stops coming on here.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 07:09:23
Guys what do you think about sakho 30mill should do it or Do you guys prefer Evans.

Believable2 Unbelievable0

{Ed025's Note - both second rate for me imired, arsenal should be aiming higher imo mate..

31 Aug 2017 09:48:42
Wow we are getting desperate now. Lol. Only jesting.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 13:04:33
Edd were desperate.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed025's Note - you are imired but im afraid it looks like the horse has bolted mate..

31 Aug 2017 06:38:52
So Ox and Sanchez out.
Draxler or Mahrez in?
If there are no signings are Wenger's days numbered?

Believable0 Unbelievable0

{Ed025's Note - i would think so RG, been a great manager for a number of years but has seemingly lost the dressing room..and the plot..

31 Aug 2017 09:49:28
I think Wenger days are numbered whatever.

Agree1 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:04:36
The gaps between meltdowns is getting smaller and smaller Steve but once the window is closed Arsene maybe able to talk the players and enough fans round enough to see out this season at least.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:22:30
I think gunner, the signs are there to say the peasant are revolting. Take that as you will.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:49:18
Maybe Steve we will have to wait and see mate, obviously if the players show the same enthusiasm after the international break as they showed before it something will need to change rather sharpish.

Agree0 Disagree0

30 Aug 2017 21:59:25
Buzzing for deadline day tomorrow. Hope we actually bring in some needed players. No panic buys tho! Ed002 I'm not expecting blow by blow updates. But I was wondering if anything had happened with draxler. You said yesterday a team had been in contact with him the other day and we might make a push. Wondered if anything came of that or is it too early to say still. Thanks either way πŸ‘πŸ».

Believable1 Unbelievable0

{Ed002's Note - I am thinking Draxler may be news worthy tomorrow.{

31 Aug 2017 07:41:42
Thank you Ed.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 09:50:51
Draxler has avoided us like the plague so far. Can't see it myself.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:12:26
Who knows Steve. Maybe some more stability will suit him.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:33:07
Can't see it but there may be a squeak at a loan deal. But it is a squeak.

Agree0 Disagree0

31 Aug 2017 10:51:42
Maybe he's had enough of all the expectations being at an ambitious club brings 16 mate, maybe he fancies a more cosy club and life for a bit :-)
Exciting times indeed :-)

Agree0 Disagree0