Arsenal Banter Archive January 31 2013

 

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31 Jan 2013 23:09:42
Its good to see so many people are I the know about arsenals transfers. Ha ha thus has been a joke. He gets paid £8m per year and produces nothing! In arsen we rust. Get out of our club. We are going backwards. He said he would only buy players who would improve us. Samba. Butland remy villa. Why let frimpong and chamack leave without replacing them. As a fan I am GUTTED
Papey

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A Bit harsh, yes we would have all liked to get a DM and commanding CB and experienced Goalie this window but it is very hard in The Janaury Market to buy genuine quality and clubs willing to sell. Nacho is a good LB buy by all accounts, Just taking advantage of Malaga's financial woes really like we did with Cazorla.

Most of the deals in Jan involve lower position clubs and and English based players that you have to either pay a premium to or players that have doubtful attitudes, or the odd free agent.

Yes it is going to be tight run thing now the Top4 put past experiences should tell you we are well adverse to going on strong run towards the end of a season. Spurs will crack as always and Everton always tend to suffer through fatigue in the end having a small squad.

We must get serious in the summer though and buy the players that will make a difference. A proper DM a leader of CB that can dominate a experienced keeper to keep shezz. on his toes a RB if Sagna does not get with it and another striker possibly in that order.

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Papey I don't agree we went backwards, we just didn't make any great leap forwards that maybe you hoped for. the players you have mentioned are a joke though

samba - a huge amount of money on a player not much better than PM4, we missed our chance a couple of years ago, he'll be half the price when 'Arry is relegated again (QPR need to see Pompey for their future)

villa - too old for us now, no value for money unless we could have loaned him for the remainder of the season, but most importantly was never for sale and barca don't need to sell

remy - has been very average for a while, would end up like another chamack or bendtner if he joined us

butland - wants 1st team football. this means begovic is off, likely to man utd, de gea off to madrid or barca (reina to the other), likely means shez is staying with us for a while, which is very good and means butland wouldn't play.

frimpong - still hasn't proved himself at all at this level, regaining fitness and wants big money now or will play the market, he won't be back, and as he never played for us he won't be missed

chamack - what is the point in him not playing for us? if we want any chance of selling him in the summer we need him to bang some goals in for west ham

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31 Jan 2013 23:07:38
well the window is closed and I have to say once again I am hugely p***** off

nacho will be a good addition to the squad but still no dm.

i would like to take this opportunity to thank all the eds for doing a truly fantastic job once again, now go out an get monged of your heads lads.

champagne charlie

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Well said charlie

gun44

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Yeah well done eds. A fun ride that ends in a whimper (de ja vu anyone?)

we go to the spurs soon where we can kickstart their annual table drop, just look out for those sneaky scousers

come on you f***ing gooners

gun44

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31 Jan 2013 23:06:38
Santi Cazorla and Nacho Monreal had to become friends at Malaga CF if Wenger signed him. Now WE have our own feeder club-( and for two other clubs WE are the feeders ourselves-Man C and Barca obviously)

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31 Jan 2013 23:02:49
Been a gooner through and through for many years now but I'm one angry Arsenal fan. It seems we are not going to strengthen our obvious weak areas in our team. Pushing through a summer signing now just because of an injury is not good enough. There are many players out there who could have given us a boost for the rest of the season. More dropped points between now and the end of the season will really start to see the mood change at the Emirates.

Not sure whether to fully blame the board or wenger.

Decline, decline, decline.

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31 Jan 2013 23:01:38
To put it simply, despite signing Nacho Monreal, we have had a very poor transfer window.

Gooner Mike

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31 Jan 2013 23:00:42
monreal confirmed with 30 seconds to go!!!

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31 Jan 2013 22:58:21
If Gibbs doesn't go down we sign no one.

I've finally had enough. . wtf is going on?

Is it Wenger or the board. whatever it is, every year we fall further back from the top and us fans are supposed to accept it.

Why do you think they froze ticket prices, because the cheap *******s weren't going to spend. they knew it. going for targets unobtainable or with offers way too low. 10m for jovetic?!?!

persons. that's what they make of us fans every transfer window. . that's what they are

People need to stop going. Watch on tv. There are no media blackouts in UK like there is for NFL here, so stop going.

Seriously, if you really are pissed, watch on tv. Stop going. They very clearly don't care about us fans, then return the favor. Stop bitching and moaning and do something about it. Stop giving them your money.

Let there be 10-15k empty seats every match to begin. Assemble and act. If I lived in London, and Arsenal was my club and I had to pay those prices. . I'd have stopped going long ago. what's the point of attending, spending your money. all they really care about. and then complaining?

In the US, fans stop going. In the UK, owners abuse fans w prices and policies and yet you still PAY MONEY to go because you owe it to the club?

Jesus Christ folks. this is 2013 and this is a game, not life. Clearly, that's how Arsenal as a club treat it. Then stop being persons and return the favor. I'm not paying to attend because losing does not entertain me, and this money is for that, entertainment

You owe the club nothing! Remember that. they are a business

People who continue going to matches and yet moan and whine are hypocrites. . show some action

This window we were flat out lied to. grow some balls and tell Arsenal to **** off.

US Gooner

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The problem is people don't want to lose their season ticket. Had to wait 15 years to get one and yes it's expensive but if I was to give it up someone else would happily come in and buy it.

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To be honest usgooner I do not give a $(-)!t any more.

its time supporters stopped blaming the board.

if wenger can't get any money to spend he should just quit at least we would all know what is going on.
but every 1 deep down know its him not the board.

have not been to game since b4 xmas.
i have decided not to call our home ground the emirates any more. where has all the money gone from their sponsorship deal. its ashburton grove for me now.

the day arsenal supporters started fighting with each other at brighton was the day the club had lost its soul, this is all wengers fault.
wenger should of been sacked 5 years ago that is what big clubs do.
we are no longer a big club.

THE CLUB SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THE WAY THEY HAVE TREATED THEIR CUSTOMERS/SUPPORTERS.

WENGER blatantly lied to every 1 again.

empty seats at a home game against liverpool sums it up for me.

just go arsene your not wanted any more, you have lost the respect of the majority of the supporters of our club, not your club, just go.

champagne charlie

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No, we are FANS and SUPPORTERS

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The thing is, as an arsenal fan (and a football fan generally), you have to support your club win OR lose. Maybe that's different in America - and maybe you find it easy to stop going when your team aren't performing, but atleast in the uk, its a different culture.

Arsenal have had far worse teams than the current one, and fans have watched far worse football, for a long time. Whilst not spending money to compete/improve is frustrating, and whilst ticket prices aren't relative to team ambitions, its still Arsenal fc, and its supporters will always support. If kroenke is abusing this fact to make money, eventually, it will end.

Daniel

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This is exactly how I feel, we've listened to them and they now need to hear our voice

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Daniel what are you going on about.
every home game there has been thousands of seats empty.
season ticket holders are sick of the excuses every year.
my seat has been empty since w, b, a in december.
it costs me about E500 for every game I attend with travel and spending money.

told lie after lie every year, I don't know why wenger does not come out and tell the fans he's just not spending any money "full stop".
what difference does it make to him?
hes only the manager of the footballing side of the club, he acts as if he's the owner.

WENGER OUT

champagne charlie

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I agree with Daniel completely

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Charlie - why not sell your seat on the arsenal ticket exchange for the game then? It's people like you that leave empty seats at the ground - other people would buy them and perhaps help the atmosphere which in turn would help the team.

Daniel is right that there have been far worse Arsenal teams than this one. In the early/mid 90s we were solely a cup team who regularly finished mid table - we are now a top 4 team who regularly play in the Champions League.

Tim Taylor

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Tim taylor.

what I do with my season ticket is my business.
i do not go to games jeering or booing the team or the club even though I give a strong protest on here
its not just a protest why I leave the seat empty, its more of a just can't be arsed to go and watch the same old same old at the moment.

what would you prefer 5 or 6 thousand seats empty of a capacity crowd booing the club?
i prefer to hit the club in the pocket as a protest, they have my money for a season ticket but they are loosing out on a match day revenue.
imagine if 10k supporters do not turn up and on average they spend £10 each, that would pay theo's wage packet each week. (and you can be sure people spend more than £10 each. game, "i know I do".
we are constantly told the club is run properly yet how much money in recent years have the club lost on match day revenue?

champagne charlie {Ed002's Note - Your example is not a good one. Unless the £10 a week is a donation to the club I would assume that it is spent buying something from the club. If it is foord and drink then there is a cost to making and selling the product - if you wish to compare it against the money spent on wages wages, then only the club's profit from that £10 is relevant.}

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Ed002 I was giving an example of £10, but who only goes to game and spends that.
being a publican I know for a fact that the mark up on food is close to 100%
how much is a fish and chips at ashburton grove?
are you seriously telling me that when 5k supporters do not turn up for a game the match day revenue is not hit hard. we have played around 17 home games so far this season and around 10 of them huge amount of supporters have stayed away.

so lets say the average fan spends £40 at a game and lets half that for costs and tax and we come out with £20 profit that £200k the club have missed out on. a 10 game period that's £2mill,,, now i'm not saying that these figures are 100% correct but you don't have to be a brain surgeon to realise that we are loosing revenue.

i wonder how many seat will be empty on saturday, I won't be there not through a protest, I just can't make it.

champagne charlie {Ed002's Note - You need to also think about where that money goes - it is not necessarily to the club itself. Many folk will get themselves a cocktail before going to the game - and perhaps pop in to a local gastropub to pick up a beautifully crafted prawn cocktain sandwich in nearby Camden Town. That is what I always do when going to the games at The Emirates.}

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31 Jan 2013 22:56:38
Monreal deal may be good unsure yet, but rather disappointed, would have preferred a centre back and deployed vermaelan out left until Gibbs was back, just not really acceptable in my eyes.

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We do not a CB and TV5 is not a LB, this move makes perfect sense.

We have a very decent squad, Pod, Theo and Giroud are now gelling nicely and will score plenty of goals, we have plenty going forward in midfield as well, 2 good RB and LB, it's all looking good.

Would like to see Eisfeld step up now, he is going to be world class.

COYG

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31 Jan 2013 22:55:48
Absolutely devo'd that we've only made one signing and that's truely down to gibbsy picking up and injury yesterday, someone really needs to hook Wenger back up with those jam jars he had because every supporter has identified we needed a DM, plenty of top talent has moved this window but yet again Wenger will spill the same old bullshizer how there's no talent available in the winter window, arghhh so frustrated.
Rant over!

Jegooner

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31 Jan 2013 22:50:01
I am seriously underwhelmed !ColbyGarry

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31 Jan 2013 22:47:11
Bye bye Santos! Get in the reserve squad where you belong.

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'Nacho' is by all accounts is quality solid LB with good reviews in Spain and someone we have been tracking for long time. He was likely a summer target put was pushed forward due to Gibbs injury and Wenger perhaps finally taking in on the chin and giving up on Santos.

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31 Jan 2013 22:30:13
any last minute deals lined up?

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31 Jan 2013 22:10:12
Monreal looks like an ideal buy. Good age, plenty of experience, but cuptied for the Champions League.

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31 Jan 2013 23:07:13
Face tall aggressive. and anyone who plays for Spain is class

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Not exactly exciting signing but it serves a needed purpose with Gibbs out injured we just can't have Santos in the starting line up as a LB.

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Ok not a great transfer window and we still need a proper defensive minded midfielder and CB but nacho is a quality buy by all accounts. No doubt Wenger has finally listened to reason and given up on Santos as a LB at least. The injury to Gibbs with vital PL games coming up that we need max. points in has forced Wenger's hand.

He is very good crosser apprently unlike Sagna the other side so hopefully he can give reliable service to Giroud in the box.

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31 Jan 2013 22:05:57
Fulham have triggered the release clause :(

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31 Jan 2013 22:05:44
One hour to go. Feel it will just be Monreal now. Poor show if so.

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31 Jan 2013 21:59:04
*singing* Naacho Naacho Monnnn, I want to be. a Nacho Mon.

Source-Homer Simpson
Lp

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31 Jan 2013 21:58:51
Only an hour left. Is Nacho our only possible signing?

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31 Jan 2013 21:55:24
Arsenal will achieve a champions league spot with or without signings. In Arsene we trust.

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I don't trust Arsene anymore pathological liar simply says what fans wants to hear every transfer window, then does nothing.

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31 Jan 2013 21:52:31
No more signing except the malaga left back. We tried hard for villa but barca have refused. that's what we get for giving them cesc and song!

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And barca gave us about £55m for cesc and song - that paid for about 1/6 of our stadium.

and song has been pants for them, so they probably are keen on us

nevermind Villa, he is in his twilight now, his injury has aged him 5 years in the last 18 months

redgoon

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31 Jan 2013 21:51:19
like I have said before no big name will come this window. I don't know to much about montreal from what the spanish experts are saying he is a decent player and will do more then a job at left back. .

major transfers will take place in the summer. will have to wait till then arsenal family

Verulam Gooner

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Been to Montreal a couple times its a nice place, just have to remeber they speak French there.

Bergkamp's apprentice

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I don't know much about Montreal either apart from its in Canada

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31 Jan 2013 22:30:05
They've got a great Hockey team there, I know that much.

Stoner

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This is what the lonely planet has to say about our new signing:

'One thing not up for debate is what makes Montréal so irresistible. It's a secret blend of French-inspired joie de vivre and cosmopolitan dynamism'

He sounds ideal for a club that rather self evidently could be described in identical terms. An inspired signing.

The ghost of Terry Mancini

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31 Jan 2013 21:51:05
I can't help but think Beckham training with Arsenal and now joining PSG for free, is an arranged thing by Emirates? Great ad for them

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31 Jan 2013 21:49:56
ed who do you think triggered Mohamed Diame release clause? {Ed027's Note - London club

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31 Jan 2013 22:20:30
No club

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31 Jan 2013 21:37:21
Spurs have activated Diames release clause. We all know they wait to see who we have an intrest in, and then swoop in. Villa will not be coming as Cuena has gone out on loan, so Villa stays put.

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31 Jan 2013 21:12:08
Why does everyone want Diame? He wasn't much good against us when we thumped Wet Ham was he? He wasn't much good the other night when they got beat too.

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He didn't start against us he came on with 20mins to go.

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31 Jan 2013 21:10:38
Has Diames release clause been activated?

Exo

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31 Jan 2013 20:28:57
why can't we get a sky reporter like KATE RILEY standing out side the emirates or colney. even if we do not sign any 1, I can sit at home perving over her.
it would make a crap transfer window look good.

any news ed???

champagne charlie {Ed027's Note - just Nacho, lots of failed talks not worth talking about

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Thanks bud happy new year to you, you don't seem to be around to often any more.

champagne charlie

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31 Jan 2013 22:22:34
Ha ha. I'll google her. the one outside Norwich is nice. km

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31 Jan 2013 20:16:38
ed02 said marrtin steklenberg is in London and the pool page and clue if/who he is in talks with? {Ed027's Note - he is not, seria a window is finished

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31 Jan 2013 20:15:53
ed do you expect any more signing than monreal? {Ed027's Note - no

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31 Jan 2013 19:56:23
Can the ed's confirm any truth in the rumours on Reina and Villa? {Ed027's Note - nope barca don't want to sell, reina is a few years late

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31 Jan 2013 21:29:00
Arsenal's business officially finished for January transfer, just heard it on tv 5 live.

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31 Jan 2013 21:20:24
Diame release clause looks like it is from Fulham NOT us. Keep praying though :)

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31 Jan 2013 21:19:46
My god people Diame is not a great player is this what wenger has done to us? We get excited about buying a basic player! Sad times

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31 Jan 2013 21:18:21
Apparent spurs are the team who have triggered Diame release clause.

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31 Jan 2013 20:44:10
Does anyone know why sagna is played instead if jenkinson, sagna is utterly rubbish, jenkinson can actually play football!

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Because Wenger

1404

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You can't honestly say sagna is rubbish. He's been one of the best rb's in the prem for years he's just having a bad run of form. But I do agree jenks should be given a run.

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I agree, but since Jenkinson's nightmare against Swansea at the Emirates, I wonder if he may have lost confidence. I was at the game, and he had a really bad one.
But if I had to chose between the two, I would pick Jenkinson every time.
Braintreegooner

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Sagna has been a terrific, consistent right back and probably the best in the league for 2/3 years but after 2 broken legs he is in visible decline and last nights game was proof of that. Jenkinson can really deliver a ball well and has had a recent England call up and should be contesting the right back slot with coquelin in my opinion.
Drakey

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31 Jan 2013 20:56:25
The female sky presenter in the yellow dress should be our next signing. Natalie is her name I think. . she is hot. km

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Just checked her out after reading this. Good spot I say. Sexy voice as well. Time to scoure google for any leaked sex tapes.

Chimney sweep josh

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31 Jan 2013 21:42:44
To be fair most of the sky girls are hot.

Stoner

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31 Jan 2013 21:49:35
And the one outside Norwich isn't bad to. .

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I have always loved her

Limerick Gunner

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Your searching Natalie? The intrenet is really wasted on you people ;)

Detroit Gooner

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31 Jan 2013 22:26:42
Charlotte Jackson is smoking hot.

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31 Jan 2013 22:37:23
Lets be honest the three players we have signed in the summer have settled in well. the new left back comes with a good reputation. the rest is down getting that defence sorted out because its the defence is letting us down badly. On a different note. How good is Jack Wilshire. this kid gets better every match he plays. A good advert for any young kids learning about the game the way he Plays looking up while the ball is at his feet. that's what Barca teach their young players to do. class act. km

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31 Jan 2013 20:53:07
Stop bl00dy whinging let's get behind the boys new left back means least we have 11 on the pitch

New lad could be a blessing but not a fix who knows anonymous bid for diame sounds our style

Let's get behind umm 4th is a battle for us no lie but 3rd is possible we fix in summer

Coyg

Goonertillidie

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31 Jan 2013 20:51:48
Wenger just signed a defender its the UK border control. Their going to keep Gervinho out of the country.

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31 Jan 2013 20:50:12
Diame will sign for arsenal as they are the unnamed club, and also David villa has just been spotted at gatwick airport?

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Surely it would be heathrow?

Sussex Gooner

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I hope your right.

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31 Jan 2013 21:44:05
Yahoo the 1st airport signing.

Stoner

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Is that a statement or a question?

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31 Jan 2013 20:48:55
Firstly good game yesterday, a real game of two halves. Thought either team could nick it at the end!
Always liked Arsenal so if we are to get back in the top 4 soon I hope it's not you we replace!
A quick question though, a friend of mine who supports Arsenal reckons Cazorla is better than Suarez. I just wondered what you guys think, because I think he's crazy, but I'm probably bias!
Cazorla is a fantastic player but in my opinion Suarez is on another planet and is carrying us. I think you guys would be pretty much okay without Cazorla.
Anyway, let me know what you think.
Daniel YNWA
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Different type of player, play different positions, but I suppose if you were to ask who is more influencial in each teams' play - probably Suarez.
AG

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31 Jan 2013 20:48:41
lb at arsenal can't remeber but i'm in a hurry

london gunner

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31 Jan 2013 20:25:38
If I don't hear "Nacho, Nacho man" ringing round the emirates, the potential deal for Monreal will be a disappointment.

D

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31 Jan 2013 21:18:31
Best post in weeks
Dicky

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Brilliant! has to happen!

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This must happen

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31 Jan 2013 19:32:39
and still you lot moan, if this nacho deal goes thru, santos stays on the bench, I understand you may think its a last minute deal, but not one person on here jas ever linked us with monreal, so noe of you have any idea regarding the situation. get behind the bloody team. hopefully now we snap up diame last minute dot com, think we may need him for any sort of chance against munich and the top four. enjoy the rest of deadline day my fellow gooners

goonerdazza !!

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Sorry about the spelling mistakes, just a bit peeved with the constant negativity. as for the post above mine. loving the "nacho, nacho man"

goonerdazza

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Agree x1000000 so much negative bullsh*t on here!

Jensen Hatrick

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Well said sir we moan too much let's get ready for the fu**in battle and have spurs better placed than we were plug defence and ave it

Goonertillidie

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31 Jan 2013 19:28:50
Hearing Barca are about to accept 15+ for Villa
Common Arsenal!

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31 Jan 2013 19:24:50
pepe reina to arsenal??

He has been in poor form for a couple of years now. . I hope if he does come, he can up his game and be what he once was. . a top keeper.

Daniel

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31 Jan 2013 19:23:24
Villa deal over monreal in that's it nothing else happening

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31 Jan 2013 19:22:48
just been told reina of LFC is on his way to AFC for a medical. . the big signing we were after along with a left back international already mentioned

gooner1010

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31 Jan 2013 19:21:37
pepe reina before deadline??

VG

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31 Jan 2013 19:20:08
ed my mate rang me and he seems to think we have bid for fellani, have you heard anything about this?

champagne charlie {Ed002's Note - Nope.}

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Your mate Malaga was it?

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31 Jan 2013 18:43:53
Monreal. . great news. . please I hope we sign a keeper cus shezza just doesn't cut the mustard. . I said this last week, he is too weak. not big enough. reina showed him up last night and he's twice his age for christ sake.

Wolvo gooner

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Reina distribution was awful last night. But I'm also not convinced by Szez just yet (maybe in time) but having that defense of him doesn't help.

Bergkamp's apprentice

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Exactly our defence could may a brick wall in goal look poor

Goonertillidie

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31 Jan 2013 18:40:22
Santos to Galatasary on loan.

Whispers of Wenger trying for 1 "Super" signing.

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31 Jan 2013 18:36:09
I just realized that Wenger has loaned out 3 of our strikers (B52, Chamakh and Park Chu Young) and hasn't brought anyone to take their place keeping in mind that Giroud replaced RVP.

It's strange that Wenger didn't line up a deal or two, but I could be wrong. The last few hours of the window will tell. .

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Not to mention J. Cambell who is still awaiting a work permit

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31 Jan 2013 18:35:11
Anounced nacho monreal sighned

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31 Jan 2013 18:23:14
Why are people talking about Nacho like we have signed him - we haven't.

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Sounds like the deal as always been in place but was due to take place in the summer, which at least signals that Wenger understands that Santos is tosh
Gibbs's injury last night looks to have pushed the transfer forward.

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Because we are desperate for the club to sign someone! Live a little. . .

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Well have we signed him or not? No. We are negotiating for him.

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31 Jan 2013 18:20:12
More proof that we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes. Is Monreal being brought in because of Gibbs being injured? If so than that was a quick negotiation and bit of convincing to get a cup tied Spanish international fullback.

Which makes me wonder what they were doing for 30 days, was this part of the plan? Surely we could have signed him earlier while Gibbs was fit, play both of them while Podolski was injured and keep Santos as far away from the first team as possible.

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He was lined up for summer signing. Has been learning English for past few months. Arsenal have just brought the signing forward. Hence such a quick deal.

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Hunter said that we had a sort of gentalmans agreement with the player regarding a summer move, guess we pushed for now tho because of Gibbs' injury

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31 Jan 2013 18:18:20
I will be sat watching the tv and on me laptop all night I love transfer deadline day hoping and praying come on arsenal
The Crazy Gooner

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31 Jan 2013 19:22:58
Been on the tv teletext tv, laptop rumous since jan 1st and f. k me arsenal no how to wind there fans up ! 3 hours 40 mins left ! 31 days and its come to this again, don't we love wenger

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31 Jan 2013 18:02:00
What a joke arsene surely any pro could improve our squad when you consider we play Santos

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31 Jan 2013 18:01:02
Anyone else happen to catch the article in a popular mens weekly magazine that confirmed that Arsenal are the "softest" team in the league?

Basically, we average more players with long sleeves and gloves, for more games, than any other team in the Premier League.

Speaks for itself really doesn't it?

topgunner

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To be fair we do spend a lot of time looking at the ball so they need to keep warm

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Henry wore long sleeves and gloves

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That because the board make the players pay for their shirts and the long sleeve is more expensive.

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31 Jan 2013 17:56:09
lets be honest, this isn't necessarily a bad thing but how many people had heard of monreal and abroietta before today? {Ed027's Note - both well known to people who follow spanish football, Nacho is first choice spanish lb, whilst Ambroieta is key to Bilbao

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Heard of a long time ago he's a good left back in Spain, but don't know how long it will take him to adapt to a different playing style in England

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Any avid football fan should have heard of them, I have

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First choice left back? Since when, he only has what, 8-10 caps?

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I rate Nachos as a good appetizer.

Ash

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Surely barcas jordi alba is first choice ed? He's quality {Ed027's Note - Moneral is seen as a better defender than him, but now alba plays for barca he has the edge, if nacho was at barca no doubt he would be first choice

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31 Jan 2013 17:51:46
Really interesting that Wenger took time to speak about David Beckham.

Wenger said of Beckham "He is inspiring. He continues to train after the team session has finished". Now I know someone at Colney, and he has told me numerous times that NONE of the Arsenal players stay behind after training to use the facilities, they are stright off to their wags, adverts etc. Arsenal do not train hard enough collectively or individually (one 120 minute session per week). This should be the first thing changed, hopefully Becks has shown them the only way to improve is to work harder.

It's the openess that Wenger showed when talking about DB that really grates with me, he won't say anything remotely helpful to our fans. DB shouldn't even be training with us at a time when extra focus needs to be given to our firts team players, let alone our squad players. It's like Wenger loves the distraction of having DB around! It's not like we're in a crisis or anything, with every fan clinging to your every word for some reassurances over the future. .

redgoon

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Wow! kind of shocked by negativity here! So having ex england captain and living legend around isn't possibly a good thing for the younger members?

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Yeah we really don't need a player whose won 6 EPL, 1 C/league, 2 Fa cups, 1 La liga and 115 caps for his country training with our squad.

Bergkamp's apprentice

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31 Jan 2013 17:50:30
Suprised we signed Monreal, would of expected a loan deal. maybe we will use Gibbs as a winger later on in his career, always thought he was capable.

Some people may think its a panic buy, but he's a very good player. delighted with that.

Wenger seen leaving the training ground just now on Sky would suggest everything is done for the night.

Still hearing that he is trying to pull of a huge signing tho. don't believe it myself but thought I would share

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31 Jan 2013 17:50:05
Ok so we might have signed a left back already but this doesn't count wenger as you prob wouldn't have had Gibbs not been injured. CDM/CB!

Get on it!

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Lol, doesn't count. You people are ridiculous

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31 Jan 2013 17:39:42
ed, do you see arsenal signing anyone in this transfer window? {Ed027's Note - a few hours back i did'nt, expect atleast one, possibly two

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31 Jan 2013 17:13:52
Wenger has lost it, iv backed him and backed him, behind the times now, how can he not see we need a dm and cb.

Leaves everything to late nasri performes when he has a year left you should always sign them when they have 2 years left.

Rvp the same only performes when he has a year left could of put him £90,000 a week if you sign him at 2year on the contract.

Cesc gets away with it as he wanted to go home. Load of rubbish if we were winning things he wouldn't of left.

When we had that team should of won league cup/ we were in a 2 horse race and yet we finished 4th.

Time to move on we will finish 6th this year.

Lewis a unhappy gooner

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How many times do you need to be told to get the idea- RVP was never going to extend. even with 2 yrs left6 or 3 for that matter

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31 Jan 2013 17:13:50
Eds it's all of your faults we are not signing anyone. . apparently. . you promised us we were

I must say the comedy value of some of these posts makes deadline day more bearable.

Cheers guys and hope you guys get a laugh out of these as well. .

US Gooner {Ed027's Note - we always do mate

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31 Jan 2013 17:09:28
{Ed027's Note - 6 hours left my bad }

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31 Jan 2013 16:55:08
Arsenal are in talks with Atletico Bilbao to sign defender Fernando Amorebieta, can confirm.

Any truth in this ed ? {Ed027's Note - true but we've been talking to a few agents, nothing has come of it

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31 Jan 2013 16:54:20
Think we have missed out on an opportunity by not going for butland. IMO we need a whole new back 5. Especially after last night. If that was me defending like that on a Saturday afternoon I would be dropped straight away and that's at my level never mind professional level! Why is it that all fans I speak to seem to agree that players like Sagna and santos aren't good enough yet arsene and surprisingly Steve Bould cannot see it!??

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Wood for the trees and all that.

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31 Jan 2013 16:46:18
lets face it arsenal aren't guna sign anyone intrest is always there in players but chances of signing anyone is bout 2%

shame for us long suffering (7years) fans

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Expect at least 2 signings before the window shuts

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Tell me. .

1. You've been a fan longer. . unless you are 7 yrs old, in which case. . that's pretty cool. . otherwise, please try and remember the boat loads of good that happened right before

2. No trophies is awful, yes. But competing at the top, producing players worth watching and 16 straight years of CL football should not produce suffering. . more likely a medical condition if actual suffering is occurring

US Gooner

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Right an dright again US Gooner - I think so many here only picked up supporting when we were winning trophies, or have no memories. Yes it's too long without a trophy, yes he is beyond frutsrating, but we owe Arsene everything.

The ghost of Terry Mancini

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31 Jan 2013 16:46:07
Hey ed do you think arsenal will sign ambrobieta and david villa? {Ed027's Note - possible for Ambroieta fee could be a problem as i think he out of contract

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31 Jan 2013 16:44:41
first time poster just wanted to know about is there any truth in reporting that arsenal are in talks for Fernando Amorebieta

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31 Jan 2013 16:35:07
EDS are we interested in Amoribieta from Bilbao? {Ed027's Note - yes

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Strange, the name Amoribieta hasn't come up before today. funny that.

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31 Jan 2013 15:53:56
Arsenal retain their interest in Barcelona striker David Villa but the ball is firmly in the Spanish club's court. Ornstein, who has come into work wearing a suit such is the magnitude of the day, says that Arsenal have also been linked with Cameroon international Gaetan Bong of Valenciennes

Rob J

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31 Jan 2013 15:53:21
ed any news. quite anxious {Ed027's Note - possible a left back will come in, can't shift remaning deadwood

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Careful ed027, there's another ed on here who doesn't take too kindly to the term "deadwood" lol

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31 Jan 2013 15:51:04
I have lost all respect for one of the Eds. According to one of you we were definitely signing 2 players, I hope you prove me wrong {Ed027's Note - who said that, prove it on the search function

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31 Jan 2013 16:20:11
Agreed. I remember that too. The rumor page only goes till the 28th? Anyways, to the original poster, you're not wrong. To the Ed that did say that they expected 2 signings, it's not the deadline end yet :-P {Ed027's Note - i expected a few signings, no definate in their

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31 Jan 2013 16:38:17
That's ridiculous to blame one of the Eds, I think Ed002 said he expected 2 signings, but pretty much all of us have expected that so to slate an Ed for it is just totally pathetic.

Apologies if I've named the wrong Ed, that to a degree is irrelevant as you Eds do a fantastic job.

Stoner {Ed027's Note - a few if not all expected Arsenal to sign someone, given the state were in were in need of a few players, obviously the big gus at the club dont feel the same

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Stoner

Is, as it seems to me he pretty much always is, right. To start throwing the blame at guys working hard and well for us is beyond ridiculous. I don't care if the eds had said it or not as the reality is we are all guessing - except of course all those people who have texted in with their inside knowledge of course! By the way has anyone seen Villa as I think a few days ago he was seen at Heathrow - it seems to have taken him a long time to get to the stadium!
So thanks eds and ignore the odd person, we really appreciate the efforts.

The ghost of Terry Mancini

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31 Jan 2013 15:48:47
I said we'd sign no one in late December and got torn into on this site. Apologies anyone? The summer was always going to be shake-up time.

Stewart

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31 Jan 2013 15:43:39
i know this might be wishful thinking but I remember it being all quiet in august 2011 and we signed a few players well late. I know it's jan and harder to get players but i'm just hoping something like that happens again so fingers crossed but would'nt hold my breath on it.

gooner mark

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Yep but the players we got then are pants! Park, Santos and Mertersaker. Hope we don't get more of that quality

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31 Jan 2013 15:43:28
Hello Ed and fellow Gooners. Last nights match showed just how much lack of depth we have in our squad. When you here AW that's is hard to add quality to the squad, what the f--k was he thinking of when he signed Santos(he cannot be Brazillian not with that lack of skill)Mertessacker(how the ef---g hell has he won 60 odd caps for one of the top footballing nations in the world). Chesney needs a top flight goalie for competion. TV has loss his way somewhat, has not been right for a while. I would have sent Kozza instead of Santos who is a embarrasement to the shirt. Midfield and up front can't fault their effort, Jack once again giving it absolutely everything. Would have like to seen The O x come on as well as Rosicky to give us some fresh legs. Arshavins none appearance on the bench did have me wondering he was on the verge of leaving us. In the case of Diaby I think AW is apprehensive of commiting him of fear of another long term injury, whilst I am at it the non buying of a dm makes the loan of Frimpong to Fulham puzzling. To sum up the last month shows why AW, no trophies for 7 years is paid 140,000 a wk, to balance books, to turn a blind eye to the teams shortcomings and lastly a weekly press conference full of rubbish.
Just a quick note about Chippy Brady, a absolute legend, I was in the Paxton Road December 1978 when you scored that goal at the Park Lane, one my greatest footballing memories, good luck and good health to you.
Thanks for the site Ed
The Heybridge Gooner. {Ed027's Note - good health to you aswell mate and thanks

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31 Jan 2013 15:39:51
It's becoming increasingly difficult for me to keep faith with Wenger. If there's no action this transfer window then I really do despair. There are players of debatable quality throughout the squad at present, but he cannot keep playing Santos. This transfer window was Wenger's opportunity to demonstrate that he can see - like everyone else - that he just isn't good enough and should replace him. His failure to do so shows that he has poor judgement and that he is too stupid or proud to repair the damage he's inflicting on our football club.

JayJay

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31 Jan 2013 15:28:05
wake up all you gunners, when will you learn that arsene will not spend millions in the jan transfer window. why because he is leaving at the end of the season & the board do not want to buy players that a new manager wil not want. . feeder club that is what we have become, so maybe a new man will stop the rot, be given money to spend & bring the glory days back to arsenal!!

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31 Jan 2013 14:49:06
great work ed02

all this talk of a new striker drives me mad! surely wenger can see a defensive midfielder/ centre back and a left back is much more of a priority now with gibbs injured!
forget the striker and concentrate all our efforts on that. santos isn't good enough and I don't believe wenger thinks playing big v, jenkinson or coquelin out of position is the answer.

Preferably break the bank for baines, give them arshavin in exchange if required! but as that's probably out of our reach then sign the young left back from southampton (luke shaw) I know he has just signed a new contract but with an offer too good to refuse he could be the difference that gets us a champions league place. then sign diame he'd be a bargain at 3. 5 mil.

Goooner100

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31 Jan 2013 14:47:31
hey edd, it's do-or-die time, do you think we should hold our breath for a late signing?

keep up the great work {Ed027's Note - i would'nt

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31 Jan 2013 14:28:12
Hi Eds good work on the site, but with it looking less likely that we will have any new arrivals. does anyone know how much arsenal have available to spend and how much debt we are in. surely all our targets "long and short" carn't be out of our price range ?.

Arsenal have budgeted not finishing in the top 4. Joke {Ed027's Note - we can spend under 60m without a problem

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We seem to have no problem spending considerably less than 60M every year!

CECEGUaW

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31 Jan 2013 09:55:12
Eds what's your view on signings. Don't you think we need to strengthen back line rather than strikers?
Just another note. . There was some truth in my previous post regarding bergkamp joining arsenal and I believe he will take up the vacant post of Brady?
Orthopodgooner {Ed027's Note - we certainly need a few players, i doubt we will get anyone, i'm seriously doubting the club, Bergkamp is welcome at arsenal, possible he could come in

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31 Jan 2013 14:46:55
The saddest thing is everyone new we needed a LB because of Gibbs' injury proneness, but nothing was done untill he got injured with one day left on the deadline.

Gross negligence.
Eman.

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31 Jan 2013 14:27:20
Just said on tv don't expect any signings at at arsenal. They do not even have a reporter there!!

Painter

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Reporters are at Colney.
Ezdee

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31 Jan 2013 14:23:59
tv not having a reporter outside the emirates tells you everything about what will happen at Arsenal today!

Wenger not signing anyone! Not really a big surprise!

Arsenal won't make top 4 unless 3 players signed!

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31 Jan 2013 14:14:51
Nobody signing making me wonder once again about peoples delusions and speculative sources mentioned here.

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31 Jan 2013 14:01:13
Dear Arsenal Fans

Forgive me for I thought the transfer window was ending next week on Thursday and so I thought Istill had 7days to make a move on the market. My gardener has told me I have less that 9hours to go. I am freaking out. I had not identified any players. I am going to have to go with the fans. I want us to identify three world class players for the following positions:

Centerback
Defensive midfielder
Left wing

I have a budget of 15-20million for all three. Please remember that these players have to be the right players and of world class standard. They must add something unique to this very exceptional crop of players who are the best I have worked with so far. Please guys help. I will bid for the top nominees for each position within 2hours. Target is four players Budget is 15-20million, quality should be world class

Regards

Arsene Wenger (Le Prof)

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Adams
Petit
Pires

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LOL

Ashley Williams/Kyle Bartley
Capoue
Anyone

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31 Jan 2013 13:59:07
what are the latest news regarding arsenal and please no stupid rumours

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You mean 'what is' not 'what are'.

The latest news is as follows:










AW

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Looks like the grammar Gestapo are about. Flybo

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31 Jan 2013 13:57:23
Why are people so reactionary on here. . centre back has bad game, need one. . left back has a bad game, need one. . Wengers excuse about defenders being nervous was little short of a disgrace. . add the international caps of our defenders and that tells you all you need to know about Wengers latest excuse. . . As individuals they lack responsibility. . . And they are getting little protection from the midfield because there is no natural defensive midfielder in the squad who's fit. . . Arteta and Ramsey are not def/mids. . The keeper is an clown. . . Every good team is but from the back. . Santos should never be allowed to play left back again. . and I wold rather see segna there with jenkinson r. b. . mead would be better. . Don't expect anything today. . . remember we have two players in every position and the defenders get nervous. . This is a joke. . km

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Centrebacks been bad all season, who you wacthing?

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Vermaelen's been shocking all season, Mert has been poor and has one major exploitable weakness even on his best form, and our best defender from last season was dropped. We need at least one CB.

Left back never has a god game ever. Needed one for over a year now.

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31 Jan 2013 13:42:39
Since tv deadline day started Arsenal have been mentioned no rumours. It would be very difficult to keep a big deal under the media, I'm assuming nothing is going to be happening. Complete disappointment. Can we make top 4 with this defence?

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31 Jan 2013 13:41:02
On the first day of Transfer our Wenger gave to me,
A hopeful january,
On the second day of Transfer our Wenger gave to me,
A perfect fit for squad and a hopeful january. . continue lads you know the drill. .

Cannon Balls

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31 Jan 2013 13:39:14
Bring God. . aka DB10. . back home

I don't care about transfers because they never happen for us anyway. . .

But Dennis Bergkamp was, is and always will be a Gunner/Gooner. Absolute legend and cannot wait to see him back in Red and White. .

Got goosebumps when I heard his name associated with youth vacancy

US Gooner

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31 Jan 2013 13:32:40
ed just curious, if there are any deals, will they come to emirates or coloney, to sign the paper work

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Depends where AW is. If he is at the emirates, then it will be London Colney. . .

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31 Jan 2013 13:25:54
dick laws last seen in an over crowded city wearing a red and white stripped shirt, red and white bobble hat, thick rimmed glasses, and going by the alias Waldo

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. that's 'Wally' for our UK based readers. . done my helpful deed for the day.

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31 Jan 2013 12:54:41
the guardian reporting dennis bergkamp could be becoming head of youth academy.

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31 Jan 2013 12:48:00
any players going out ie squilaci, arshavin, santos?

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31 Jan 2013 12:16:22
have we an interest in stokes gk bergovic?

is there anything in the rumour of leighton baines?

champagne charlie

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I woke up this morning thinking that we should stick in a stupid bod for Baines and Fellani. . . . . . would just like to see a statement of intent from the club

if we start Feb with the same squad we finish Jan, we will be in big trouble end off.

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GK not priority, Shez will come good EVERY great keeper has dodgy moments the test of quality is that they get their chin up after, Shez does that.

As for Baines that would be one very welcome signing, especially now Gibbs is injured and there is rumours of Santos going back where he came from (good riddance).

Fingers crossed for Baines and a top class striker.

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Some sites reporting that Stoke would loan Butland back to Birmingham if he does join them so Begovic wouldn't be available until the summer in this scenario. .

If Butland joins this Stoke window though I still doubt they will sell Begovic. They might let Sorenson leave though and he would provide us with an experienced back up keeper to Szczesny!

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I thought that! Stoke are looking at buying Jack Butland and he would only move for first team football so you never know!

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31 Jan 2013 12:55:30
We are stuck, again, with half a team! Theo Giroud & Poldolski, Jack & Santi in the middle are the foundation of a solid side sadly the rest just aren't good enough! Keeper wise we need someone to push Szczeny he's going to be good but needs pushing. The back 4 well. . What do you say is it they are poor? BFG has enough caps to make an argument about that, is it coaching or the lack of it? I know longer know, but what we all know is they ain't any where near good enough. So for me it is not 1 or 2 players we need 5 or 6. Ramsey at last played where he is supposed to lay is starting to look good but he's still young [as is Jack].
If Arsene really believes this defence is good enough we really have problems! Lets hope some major changes start happening soon 'cause we are NOT top 4 any more so revenue falls so less to spend so poorer players & the decline starts.
A worried Sagalout

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So you don't think Wilshere is part of the foundation, he's our best player

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If you read the 1st line I say jack is part of the foundation.
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31 Jan 2013 12:33:37
I'm trying to figure out what jenkinson has done wrong not a brilliant defender but who is at arsenal :)

But I really hope wenger can see we can't rely on santos (who I thought was ok when arrived but his form has fallen off a cliff now) something not right but our first choice for a min of 3 weeks which is likely to be 5-6 I pray wenger buys a new left back or promotes Meade if fit last I saw he was injured

If jenko is off too stoke we need a new rb Sagna is having a nightmare right now they say form is temporary class is permanent so has to be he's off in the summer so can't be bothered in his attitude I don't know but need a right back almost as much as a left

Central defence well they seem to take it in turns too look collectively stupid I think another addition is needed but less so that left or right back

The two signings being mentioned I hope are right and left backs

I've been quite impressed with Ramsey there but I'm wondering if one is enough do we need the Chelsea style with 2 CDM on the pitch?

Just my thoughts

Goonertillidie

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31 Jan 2013 12:23:10
Fellow goons! I have been on this before regarding Fellani, we are not going to sign him due to the Everton wanting to hold on until the summer. All we can hope for is a defender!

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I personally would want Fellaini if I was Wenger, he doesn't play typical Gunners football. We want someone with pace

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If he has the reported clause in his contract, it is not about what Everton want, its his decision if the clause is triggered. I have a horrible feeling Wenger thinks his midfield is quality and wouldn't pay £22m for Fellaini.

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31 Jan 2013 11:52:35
With our defence looking a mess atm we need someone in Asap. there's about 11 hours to go so along with Villa i'm hoping to see one of the following;

Diame: been discussed alot. Would be like a more defensive version of the ubreliable Diaby. Could happen imo

Gustavo: very unlikely but would be the perfect player right now. I understand that he would be cup tied but can play at CB, LB and at CDM. Could cover for gibbs and then take Diabys position once he's injured.

Sakho: With Djourou gone we need another CB imo. Fallen out of favour and could also cover LB. Our 3 CBs are all brilliant on there day but all inconsistent and are suited to a certain type of opposition.

Marcos Alonso: hasn't been linked with us but has premierleague experience, and contract running out soon. Would be the cheap option. He isn't brilliant but could do an able job as gibbs' backup and is young so wil improve.

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"Our 3 CBs are brilliant on their day"

You've been listening to Wenger too much pal. They are all average at best.

Would Utd, City, Chelsea, buy them, course not.

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Chelsea, Manu, and Citeh have all bought worse CB's!

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31 Jan 2013 11:32:10
Dear Arsene, you don't know me and have never met me, and to be honest I will not affect your life in any way.
I would like to start off by saying thank-you very much for all that you have done for my beloved Arsenal. Under you I have been treated to some of the most breath- taking football I have ever seen. We have the stadium that dreams are made of and a rich history which you have greatly enhanced.
Unfortunately Arsene it is history.
I regularly travel from Belfast to the Emirates. It isn't cheap, and in these times were money is tight I am finding it harder to justify the expense.
I know there is a large waiting list for season tickets and if I give up mine it will soon be snapped up. . . . but as someone involved in the retail industry my view is that you look after the customers you have and then get new ones. I am one of your bread and butter customers, don't ask for a lot, easy to please and will continue to show undying loyalty to the team.
All I ask in return is that my team gives me a little respect.
I am not calling for you to resign, far from it, but I am wondering if you have decided that at your age do you need all this pressure. You have been on a very good wage for a while now ( in fact you earn more in one week than I earn in five years), so you might feel that you could retire happily and enjoy your remaining a days in considerable comfort.
I know you have a socialist outlook ( like most French people) and there is no harm in that normally, but unfortunately you are in a capitalist industry and in fact your wage suggests that you are not totally socialist.
So what do I want.
Well I like yourself feel that footballers are vastly overpriced and overpaid, but unfortunately this is the market of today. If we want quality we have to pay it.
Please spend some of the money I have given you on some quality players.
Whatever you decide to do with your career Arsene, rest assured you have set very high standards at Arsenal and you are a very fine part of our history.
Thank you for everything.
Paul Belfast

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Great post

Jason c

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Well said Paul and keep the faith.

Bones

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Wenger is not a socalist but more of a social capitalist, wich implies that the club has to satisfy his own needs, and assume its own self. We could do otherwise if we had Usmanov in but the fact is we don't. You want respect? Don't you realize that our club is managed in the most safety and healthy way? The money you gave isn't splashed on highly risky investments (Torres, Caroll. . those are heavy mistakes when you don't have a Russian by your side). Wenger does small investments, so they are less risky. He can afford to be wrong on Santos, and on the other hand he can show the real potential of a 1 M Jenkinson.
So if you're asking for respect you couldn't get more.
I guess respect is not what you're asking for then. . you want a russian of your own don't you?
Personnaly I would be really cautious about that, I don't want to see an abrahamovic at the Emirates. Just a kid with a new toy. . I might be wrong about that, maybe Usmanov is the man but it's an other debate.
Cheer the team mate don't lose faith.
Stan

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Nice post Paul

US Gooner

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Hie Paul

Contrary to your first statement, I do know you as a fan. You have been very loyal to the club and would wish every fan is like you. I want to let you in on a little secret. We are not going to spend any money on anyone this January window. The simple reason being there isn't enough quality out there. I know people might talk about the ones that got away i. e.

Zaha
Yanga Mbiwa
Diame
Jovetic
Villa
Ba
Cavani
Klaas Jan Huntelar

But ask yourself this, would these players add anything to the current crop of players. We are looking for the right players, only those of world class ability. And in my opinion, none of the above are really world class. Yes, Villa has one a world cup, but is he really world class? He is Spain's leading goal scorer but is he any superior to Giroud? Do you think Klaas is any better than Walcott? Do you think Zaha is better that Ox? Or Mbiwa better than Kosciely, Mertesacker or Vermalean? Ok, maybe I made a horrible mistake in not signing these players. To be honest, I thought the transfer window was two months long. Now I am left with only 8hours and 10mins. Where shall I do some last minute shopping. I tried getting the likes of Pele, Maradona, Di Steffano, Crouyff and Dunga. I was so shocked to discover that all these guys have retired. Oh my gosh, whatever shall I do? Do you have any ideas? We have just over 8hours to go. Please help me find 4 world class players i. e. Goalkeeper, One centreback, Defensive midfielder and Wing. I am willing to pay between 15-20million for the four. I look to you for guidance. And please remember, they have to be "world class"

Kind regards

Arsene Wenger "Le Prof"

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You can affix any label to Wenger. However, the current Arsenal model is down to him. He believes clubs should be profitable, he believes in his so-called socialist wage structure, he doesn't believe in paying high transfer fees. If Usmanov arrives, Wenger will be unable to work with him and will depart.

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Is Abrahamovic the love-child of Roman and Zlatan ?

CECEGUaW

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31 Jan 2013 11:24:00
You could even look at this way: teams we can take 6 points off this year:

Can't do it:
Manchester United
City
Chelsea
Everton
Liverpool
Swansea
Stoke
Sunderland
Fulham
Norwich
Aston Villa

Could do it:
West Brom
Newcastle
Reading
Wigan
QPR

Have done so far:
West Ham

Going deeper into that - man united have been weak by their standards, we'll be lucky to get a point off them this year. City haven't been great compared with last season until the last month or so. There for the taking when we played them. Stoke, Sunderland, Fulham, Norwich and Villa should be 6 pointers every season, and all of those apart from Stoke have been pretty awful this year. Considering all this, and where we are in the league, 6th, and how far behind man united we are. .well. . if the board/Silent Stan/Wenger doesn't think we need to strengthen as a matter of urgency then they're crazy. And until I hear otherwise from the manager I will assume he is either in control or in cahoots with them.

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You missed Spurs off of the "Could do it" list mate.

Cheers,

ArchwayGooner

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Think its the best Utd side since Ronaldo left.

Bergkamp's apprentice

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Missed Southampton of "can't do it list" and Tootenham of "could do it". Might be an idea to add the amount of teams listed and it should equal 19 teams.

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31 Jan 2013 10:59:07
villa and barins will be good players 4 a top 4 finish wenger to go end of season 4 moyes

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31 Jan 2013 10:53:09
Do tv bother these days having reporters and cameras at London Colney on deadline day. If they do it must be like a bank holiday for them.
Please buy Arsene!

Bergkamp's apprentice

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I bet they play music and enjoy a nice bbq. .

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31 Jan 2013 10:37:40
With Gibbs injured arsenal could look into a replacement lb, because face it santos is useless we can't rely on him for a month!

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Vermaelen will cover at LB, and Kosc & Mert in the middle. But that does leave us short if any more injurys crop up.

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Agreed that TV5 will be better covering LB, even though I have stated that players should always be played in their best/natural positions, I would prefer anyone at LB other than Santos.

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31 Jan 2013 10:48:55
After being slaughtered on here by some for suggesting the priority was a Centre Half and Defensive Midfielder instead of Villa or a and other striker.

After last night just strengthens my arguement.
Listening to this morning they suggest Arsenal will be making 2 signings.

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Were you slaughtered for saying it? I think quite a few people are of the same opinion, I am for sure.
We knew Gibbs was made off glass and we all knew Santos wasnt good enough yet here we are last day of the window, Gibbs on the treatment table for 3 weeks and only Santos to cover, maybe TV5 but then we are short in CB which we all knew too. . . . .so why isn't he doing anything about it? could have had Wanyama sown up by now, there is Hangeland out off contract in the summer, huge amounts of EPL experience as good as what we have got but yet we do nothing, Diame for 3.5 mill is an excellent buy, we spend more on players that can't make the bench, he is a player that we are lacking. . . .yet again nothing.
But we waste time on a 31 year old increasingly injury prone striker when our problem is leaking goals.

I couldn't work for Wenger, i'd be the angriest man on the planet, oh and one other thing our defence is in the worst state in years so whatever Steve Bould is doing it isn't working, we can blame Wenger for this allday long but Bouldy has been brought in to influence this and its a shambles.

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And you are?

I think at least 90% of us know cf is the last place we need strengthening - unfortunately Wenger is in the other 10%

AG

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31 Jan 2013 12:01:49
I find it ridiculous that you were slaughtered, I've posted numerous times about our defence as have many others, it needs to be made of rock, not Santos's stomach, JELLY!

It appears Celtic may sell there top scorer so surely a decent bid and they would part with Wanyama, the cup tied part is not important, we need him or his like in the League NOW.

I'm struggling with our attacking options why people want a fricking striker, when our defence is 100% our major problem, both personnel and training wise!

Stoner

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31 Jan 2013 10:47:07
Today we will know the ambition of our club. We will know how important our reputation and recent history is to those running it. We will know their desire to preserve it or lack thereof. man united are clear at the top. City have sorted in-house problems. Chelsea have added in their weak area. Spurs have added. Everton are desperate to add. Liverpool have added two players.

Reminder - these teams all strengthened in the summer too. A lot. People saying 'not much has happened in the top teams' are missing the point that they are at the top because they are the strongest teams!

What is the club's biggest concern? With what perspective are they looking at things - that we are 'close' to top 4? That we 'only 3 points' behind those ahead of us (i.e making light of our situation)? Or that we are only in 6th place? Or that we are 21 points off the top and yet again the title was out of reach after 2 months of the season? We will know their perspective by the end of the day.

Fingers crossed. .

Metal Gooner

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Spot on Metal

I hopefully will be raising a glass tonight celebrating our new signings. . . or become teetotal.

Bones

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Hi metal,
the way I see it is if we do not make any significant signings today WENGER will be gone at the end of the season.
in actual fact I can see him gone b4 the season ends if things on the pitch get worse.

i all so believe the changes at the club has to do with there being rumbles between WENGER and GAZIDAS.
GAZIDAS has been very quiet the last couple of months which I find very unusual seeing as club has had huge good news with new advertising deal.
i have had a feeling for a while that GAZIDAS is sick and tired getting up in front of the AST saying there is resources at the club to spend money and yet every transfer window we never seem to go that extra yard to have a team that is competing for cups.

i all so believe LIAM "KING" BRADY'S replacement is all ready in place and will be announced b4 the end of the season, this will tell us who the next manager will be.

people on here can say what they like about me an my views but at the end of the day WENGER has brought all this on him self.he has a vision and it has clearly only benefited clubs like man utd, man city, barcelona over the last 8 years.
wenger does not want to be a manager any more he is more concerned about the board and this has been his down fall.
SAF manages the team not the fiances.

i am all so wondering if wengers departure will have a huge effect on STAN KROENKE'S position at the club.
STAN has got away with out investing any money in the club and to get the best manager possible he will have invest heavily and I think he is not prepared to do it.

the next 12 hours will tell the story.

champagne charlie

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Get ready to be a juice drinker mate

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I bet SAF wished he could manage the Fiances - fnar, fnar. Reckon he would give them back when they eventually became wives though !

CECEGUaW

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Champagne,

I think the big news is that Wenger is interested in managing 'Fiances' according to you. Does this give a clue as to Wenger's new direction in life. wedding planning. could you imagine the wedding cake he would provide, it would be pretty tasty up top, but just missing the final finish, with three levels, some classy glass (Diaby) in the middle all supported by a disorganized house of cards underneath.
In all seriousness, I am not aware enough of what Gazidas 'actually' does to comment, I'm not sure Wenger will walk out on his contract until it has finished.
I do stand behind Wenger and the team and think we can move up the table, but we do need a proper holding CM and something on the left back side after Gibbs injured himself breathing again, along with moving away from zonal marking that seems to descend into playground football with everyone congregating around the ball.

Kermit79

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31 Jan 2013 10:46:13
Actually I don't understand AW look at united bought early in the summer and had the squad ready.
Last minute buys will be a def mid Capoue or Biglia I hope Fellaini (if the gold crapping club decides to spend some) Luke Shaw but Martin Olsson would be the perfect man!
Jenkinsson on loan hope not after another brilliant performance of Sagna! Nani!?! Isco!?! Garay!?! Desperate swedish gunner!!!

RobbanSa

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What are you talking about, we did our business early last summer. Podolski was tied up before the summer window even opened.

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31 Jan 2013 10:42:48
i want wenger gone at end of season with moyes coming in

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Don't want Moyes thankyou very much

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Be very careful what you wish for !

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31 Jan 2013 10:36:13
There was a level of annoyed I was determined not to reach in this transfer window, but seeing Samba complete his QPR medical has tipped me over the edge!

I mean this guy should never have had to do time away from the prem for a start, but more to the point he could walk into our starting 11 and never lose his place.

Wenger bangs on about you cannot lose if you do not concede like he is the GENIUS that thought of that idea, yet it is crystal clear Bould has no impact on defending. You really think Bould wants zonal marking? It is awful. It mean no matter what happens, there will be people blocking Szczesny on the 6 yard line.

But whatever, we play a crap system, that's a minor point. The major point is our last load defensive signings have been SHOCKING in terms of players coming in and doing a job when we need to. Lets' just look at this -

Squillaci
Excuse for signing him: experienced, a veteran, cheap.
Problem: way too lightweight, not passionate about Arsenal, not prem adapted, signed as a back up and plays like he is only here to collect his pay. Not good enough for top 10 team even as back up.
Result: one of the most calamitous defenders, guaranteed losses with him at the back, unshiftable due to high wages.

Koscielny
Excuse: could be developed, showed promising attributes like good in the air, good tackler, good bringing the ball out of defence, totally unknown, relatively cheap, strong and fast. Problem: needed developing, too much of his game based on confidence, no prem experience.
Result: had a shocking first season with us, took a whole year to adapt, imo was not prem adapted. After one awful year and one incredible year he is dropped for. .

Mertesacker
Excuse: experienced, tall, strong, good reader of the game.
Problem: FAR too slow for this league, embarrassingly poor in the air, can't jump, doesn't like the rough and tough, one of the weakest defenders of any back four, game based on confidence, injury history with ankle.
Result: Needed a full season to adapt, shown up on about 95% of set pieces, shown up in the air by big and small strikers, has games where it does click and we like him then games where his weaknesses are exposed for the world to see and we all wonder why he was signed when anyone would have been better. Not to mention his ankle exploded again and not even in a tackle. Considering we won't sign Ba based on a knee problem that hasn't troubled him once in 3 years this is remarkable.

Jenkinson
Excuse: young, cheap, good potential
Problem: young, inexperienced, not adapted to the league, not good enough when we signed him, couldn't come in and do a job now (time of signing)
Result: we suffered badly when he played, were exposed down the right. .too many silly errors masked over the good moments. Fans not happy we went kiddy fiddling again.

Santos:
Excuse: affordable, 'experience at highest level', relatively unknown so ego booster for AW, bit like all of them except Mert really.
Problem: fat, slow, available because he's past it, no love for club, level of fight required for this league totally non existent, short, slow decision maker
Result: one or two glimpses of the player he might have been 5 years ago totally shrouded by repeated awful displays, hair-raising horror moments, off field idiocy, no basic level of fitness (I could perform better as can most people who do any sport regularly), whole defence under pressure.

Alternatives:
Debuchy/Rangel
Enrique/Santon (not amazing but could have been improved and prem experienced, better than Santos)
Samba
Cahill
Bartley.

I thought Bartley looked good in pre-season, Rangers fans loved him, he is a beast. He was already here and we decided to show him the door instead of Djourou and Squid. Absolutely pathetic. He showed us up for the mugs we are when he played Swansea off the back off no game time and put in two brilliant performances, nearly scored in both games and played some amazing long passes to his forwards.

Forgive me for my total lack of respect for the manager right now. I have watched this drivel for years and every window is the same. Wenger needs to get over himself and stop thinking he knows better than every other person involved in football because he doesn't. We NEED defenders. We NEED a better keeper at the club than the ones we have. We NEED a better left back than Santos. We NEED a good winger or a new striker to help out up top, and we NEED a defensive midfielder. Every sod in the world knows it but apparently Wenger is right just because he is the manager? I don't think so.

It's clear the defence has no faith in the system they are being told to play, and no faith in each other. Vermaelen knows it is going to be a hard game every time Santos plays. And Mertesacker. And an someone tell me what the ffff Mert was doing starting over Koscielny against Sturridge and Suarez?!

Just breathe. . breathe. .

Metal Gooner

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Sorry mate but 100 grand a week for him is a joke. think yourselves lucky!

ms85

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Stopped reading when you started slagging off zonal marking. It works, we just don't do it well enough. We'd still concede from set pieces, even man to man because our defenders are cowards.

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Well to stop reading because you think zonal as a system works is kind of ignorant because it doesn't work for us. I am more inclined to think you stopped reading simply because I wrote it. Mind you things longer than a sentence must be daunting if you're reading on a mobile phone.

I agree our defenders are pussies but I and almost everyone else believe that if we defended like everyone else we'd be far better off. Even if we had Kompany and Samba at the back we would still not be as well off as we could be doing zonal because instead of tracking runners we simply give every attacker a nice big run up, jump advantage, momentum advantage and clear upper hand. Inviting a team hungry for a goal onto us and we're standing stock still is crazy.

Metal Gooner

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Zonal marking does not work in the Premier League. It might work in other leagues, where the aerial threat is'nt as great. Ask Tony Adams, Martin Keown, Steve Bould, Lee Dixon, Nigel Winterburn or George Graham, what they think of zonal marking.

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Agreed with most what you said bar Jenkinson should never been dropped was in great form this season! Sagna has been as bad as santos, as for Samba yes a great CB but 10m + 100k no chance! Zonal making lol doesn't work simples.

OnlyOneGilbertO

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Mate your spot on with everything your saying. The attack looked fairly good last night but the defence is so bad it's laughable.

Wenger needs to sort this quickly, but unfortunately its a problem we have had dor years now.

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Agree totally with ms85. As much as I like the defender 100k a week is rediculous. I hope QPR go down.

Paul - Rochester

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Thanks OnlyOneGilbertO - with regards to Jenkinson. . as was with Koscielny, he was not ready to come in and do a job for us now, take the burden off Sagna and give us another viable option to compete for that spot and perform to our expected standards across the competitions.

This is what I was referring to about not buying what we need when we need it. As for Jenko, I think he's awesome and I am glad we signed him. . but a 19yr old from Charlton going to a top 4 club was never going to be enough, we should have signed someone else too.

Metal Gooner

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31 Jan 2013 10:25:36
Just read a post further down that Wenger had a great defence handed to him, and that once he added his attacking flair 'the combination was deadly'.

Spot on mate. We could do with one more world class AM/ST but overall the real area that needs fixing is the defence.

'you can't lose if you don't concede'

I know at times we will conede a goal or two, but we concede way more than we should.
If we get a back 6 (GK, 4 DEF, 1 DM) that can defend very well and make it mission impossible for the opposition to score, we will be much better off and be a much better side.

'Strikers win you games, defences win you titles'

Nick.

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Lets bring in GG as defensive coach

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Graham Gooch?

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Dont forget Wenger built the defence for the invincible's. The problem with this defence is that the midfield lacks tall strong defensive midfield players & is laid out wrong. Imagine, Freddie L, Vieira, Gilberto & Pires in their prime, in front of this back four & the problems would be virtually gone.

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, surely not!

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31 Jan 2013 10:13:42
everyone is hoping for Villa, or Adrien, but that's not where we are lacking podolski, theo and giroud are scoring, but we are leaking goals everywhere, we need a new centre half, RB & LB!!

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31 Jan 2013 10:07:34
Can't help thinking we have missed a trick not going for Samba. Imposing CB that takes no prisoners, unlike the big girls blouse of a German we have.

Bones

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Love to see a good old fashioned center half

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He has the turning circle of a bus, he make per look quick!

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Not at 10 mill and 100k a week.

Aussie Gooner

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31 Jan 2013 10:07:27
Was hoping for some drama today but the only rumour I've read is that Jenkinson could be going on loan to Stoke. Why?! He's far better than Sagna, we need him!
Apart from that, just a normal day at the Emirates.

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Unless we are bringing in a player who can play at right back & right side of the centre back pairing, there is no way we are allowing Jenkinson to go anywhere on loan.

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31 Jan 2013 09:20:19
normal day for arsenal FC

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31 Jan 2013 09:15:57
Word is that Everton are in for Negredo.
This player would fit Arsenal like a glove.
If Everton get him, they will finish above us.

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Well someone needs to wake wenger up. .and maybe everton are the team to do that. .

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31 Jan 2013 09:02:26
We won't buy or loan a new left back this window, we have TV5 and Santos to cover that position for 3 weeks plus plenty of centre back cover to replace TV5 is he goes over there. This ofc is Wengers opinion not mine.

If you take last nights performance and our current situation, our attacking players would probably get into any almost any team in Europe. I`m talking Cazorla, Walcott, Podolski and Wilshire. Imo all outstanding and no EPL boss would turn them down. Giroud would get into the Spurs and Everton teams, maybe not above that tho. The problem is in the heart of midfield, the CDM position where we have Ramsay, Arteta, Diaby and Coquelin. I`d doubt any of them (apart from a fit Diaby) would get anywhere near the top 5/6 clubs first team and that's our problem. We need 2 players sitting there that are as good or better than what Chelsea, Man City etc have to improve our position.

Give the defence some quality protection and you won't have the shambles we had on both goals last night, a scrambling back four out of position, short on confidence and making silly mistakes as a result. don't get me wrong, I`d actually replace Sagna now and Mert in the summer, only TV5 and Gibbs are up to it. .but all the defence look pants and will continue to do so until we bring in TOP quality central midfielders.

/Son1ka

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31 Jan 2013 08:47:42
So, the day has finally arrived, the day the footballing world knows as transfer dead line day. Or, as Arsenal fans prefer to call it, Thursday.Nobody to come in at Arsenal.

Swedish Gooner.

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31 Jan 2013 08:40:53
I can't for the life of me understand why Wenger wants to purchase a striker, when we clearly need an experienced keeper, a centre back, a left back & a couple of strong defensive midfield players. In any event Villa is 31, would cost in excess of £10m, plus say 3 years at £5.5m.
There is a huge imbalance in midfield, both in terms of the formation & the personnel. The midfield players we possess are good, but are almost identical copies of each other. We only have one tall driving midfield player in Abu Diaby. Our most successful central midfield partnerships of the Wenger era were Vieira & Petit and Vieira & Gilberto. Guess what they were all extremely tall and could defend. Fellaini is essential, at 6'4", next to Abu Diaby, we would improve immensely.

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31 Jan 2013 08:40:31
Wenger finally has said our defence was poor, Wow we've been saying that for "i can't remember how long now " !. . .But lets sit in allday 2day and watch if the so called prof will sort it out in the transfer deadline day, if he doesn't there's going to be uproar at the stoke game . .fingers crossed to all frustrated gooners, j lockwood

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All I heard him say was "We had real quality and great spirit, this team just needs to realise it's potential".

Wenger, realise this is the teams potential. Our defense is horrendous, Santos should never ever play for us as he is fat, lazy, slow, can't tackle, useless. We played Ramsey as a DMF and it did not work at all as he was far too attacking and cannot tackle either.

We are doomed to finish 6th at best this season as Wenger will not help the team out and he is trying to brainwash the team with his false praise. In my opinion we need an entire new defense.
Chess

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31 Jan 2013 08:26:37
It is so obvious why we have a problem conceding goals cheaply. Firstly we need an experienced goalkeeper, as Szczesny is talented, but not yet ready to be the first choice keeper. Secondly, We don't have any true defensive midfield players to protect the central defenders, nor does the formation Wenger uses protect the full backs. Hence, the confusion we saw last night. In our double winning team of 98 & the invincible's, the team was set in a fluid 4-4-2 formation, which clearly worked. Finally zonal marking is a faulty system & Wenger is way too stubborn to deviate from it. Going onto Wenger, since the departures of Dein & Fiszman he has had way too much control at all levels, leaving us in the mess we are in. Apparently, disagreement between Wenger & Brady is the reason for Brady's departure. You will also see Sagna depart in the summer, as he questioned Wenger's policies.

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31 Jan 2013 08:06:28
In true French style, Wenger loves his flair and doesn't disappoint this deadline day. He has finally admitted to trying to bring in a player or 2 in both a striking and defensive capacity. He is quoted saying in the interview though that he was told 3 days ago we needed a striker but now he sees we are lacking defensively. .ouch, but for anyone who gets a headrush of anxiety and instant lead balloon in their stomachs, he and his ppl, if all are to believed would not have started today or simply 3 days ago. He loves to play the press, sadly we are also on the receiving end, its just his way. so onward and upward to another long, drawn out day on tv with the a presenter who could be a spokesman for tobacco teeth whitener, the lady with the desperately autistic pout all accompanied by the blowfish lookalike from 'finding nemo' with legs. The end is in sight! Source:

Lp

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31 Jan 2013 07:58:54
Wenger won't be signing anyone in this window, as his pen has run out of ink

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He is too old to have ink in his pen.

Kolkata Gooner

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31 Jan 2013 07:53:19
I have two points from last nights game. 1 is that a more experienced keeper needs to be signed, shez is not anywhere near solid enough at the minute to be our no.1. my choices mignolet/vorm. 2. Santos disgusts me everytime I see him play, how a pro footballers legs can be gone after 20 mins is beyond me, get rid, end of. either buy or promote meade. our targets for today I hope are chris samba, mignolet/vorm, capoue/wanyama and a bit of a luxury but a snip at 10mil belhanda. Ricky the sg

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Chris Samba is about to get a £100,000 per week contract at QPR and will cost them approx £12.5 million in transfer fee. That is silly money for him!
Tim Taylor

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You only get 1 point for a draw!

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31 Jan 2013 07:52:35
I always believed we would still buy a player ir 2 well it would seem that Wenger has stated finally that he is actively going to do just that. .today! For those who have given up hope, there is still some. .for those who never gave up believing, don't hope for too much. This has to be the most emotionally trying windows yet. i'm mentally banjaxed.
Lp
Source:

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31 Jan 2013 07:46:39
I thought Santos was fine when he came on. Except for the dodgy pass but the defender should be alert
Wilmslow Gooner

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31 Jan 2013 08:19:41
What game was you watching mate ?? you no nothing about football do u, yet again he neally cost us the game, and why wenger didn't put kosh left back or put V left back stunned 60000 fans

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He was the wrong side of Henderson when he scored, totally out of position. He never tracks back properly, has zero attacking instinct and i'd say 90% of his passes are square to a central defender in trouble. Not to mention his complete lack of stamina and lard ass physic.

Apart from that he's ok.

/Son1ka

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The parallel universe has appeared again ! Santos is without doubt the worse player ever to wear our shirt. Even compared to Cygan, Stepanovs,
Squillaci, Caesar, Blockley (yes, I saw him) Furnell (him too !). The last few minutes last night was a hoot !
Santos was turned inside out and landed on his jacksi ! Billy Smart's circus came to mind. If it wasn't so serious it would be funny. This is Arsenal. Why do we have to put up with such rubbish.

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What game where you watching mate, he got away with at least 10 mistakes just because they won't punished does not mean he was ok

Spanner

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The problem is with the midfield, that lacks defensively minded players & is set up way too offensively.

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Did you see Liverpools second goal.

Bergkamp's apprentice

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On Liverpool's second goal TV5 got drawn 25 yards up the pitch and then turned by Sturridge and the ball got played into the exact space TV5 left behind. TV5 should be passing Sturridge on to a central midfielder in that situation!
Santos isn't an Arsenal quality football player, but it doesn't mean that everything that happens is his fault!
Tim Taylor

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If an attacker is running at your central defender you do NOT move further upfield, you back track to atleast level with TV5 so you`re in position to come across and cover. If Santos had done that he wouldn't have been the wrong side and wouldn't have had to tackle with the wrong foot etc etc

/Son1ka

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31 Jan 2013 07:42:30
Mertesacker - good back up
Vermaelen - Top player
Koscielny - Absolutely crap
We need a new Centre back and DEFENSIVE left back, Andre Santos is a Left central Midfield player not a left back.
Wilmslow Gooner

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What are you on, Vermaelen a top player!!

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TOTALLY disagree I think TV5 had been awful this season PM4 may not be quick but he can read the game like a book. Kosh I believe is our better partner to PM4. Last night I honestly think Ramsey did well (again this is my opinion) the ball was behind him for the first goal and the second he made a great block from the original shot. I think the most worring thing is we made the likes of Henderson and downing look half decent. Jack is trying to hard I love him to bits but he needs help or he will run himself into the ground again. Giroud wow I actually do have a man crush he works his bollcks off and has great link up play. We missed great chances to win that game and with the spuds and the Russians slipping up could really of made up ground. Hope Wenger can pull something out the bag (even if its just to get a buzz back into the emerites)

Bergkamp wonderland

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Vermaelen been poor this season and last compared to when he first joined.

Bergkamp'a apprentice

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31 Jan 2013 07:15:16
Klop will be the best option to replace AW. He can bring top dortmund players to arsenal (goetze, levendoski, hummles, bender, tc. . along with current set of our top players. throw away santos ( my grandmother defends better than this freaking Brazilian . I think he is the worst Brazilian defender I have ever seen, but can play really well as left sided attacking midfielder, but no way this guy can defend.).

Ed just one question why AW keeps on changing his quotes in every press conference ? one day he says we are looking at zaha next day we were never in for zaha ? what rubbish ? one day he says we need couple of players to increase strength of the squad, the next day he says we don't need players !!
i know this is strategy used by top managers to let everyone guessing but. the focus is on some another player. but cmon what wenger says day in day out different things is total ridiculous. with gibbs gone we will be in serious trouble as playing TV as LB will expose our 3 cb and if out of three any one gets injured which in case of CB is very much likely, (check past records) I think AW can himself play as a CB and will be our most expensive signing ever. I bet fans will be happy to see such commitment towards club. . )

stupid wenger buy some good players for now who can do their job, we right now don't need a top quality player. atleast buy a player from Epl on loan who also will take less time to cope with the physicality of Epl, which players do struggle in their debut season as they have to tune their body according to Epl in terms of stamina specially. per mertasacker, carzola also seems tired after 70 odd minutes. you xan see by looking at his face that he is tired.
wenger if you don't take arsenal to Cl you will have a black mark in your resume and that to when you are at this. end of your stint at "The Arsenal". how much else the club will loose in terms of money and also failure to lure top quality players without any Cl will be a curse in disguise .

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31 Jan 2013 05:25:51
I just hope all this hype about a change happening soon leads to the new man having some money to spend in the summers. . I mean if we have barely spent money that is claimed as to be there to spent. .

I just have a bad feeling about where we are heading given the state of all the teams Kreonke owns. . If that is the model he is planning to implement at Arsenal as well, I fear for my beloved club. .

DG

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31 Jan 2013 05:21:19
spurs showing ambition paying money for holtby even though they could sign him on a free in the summer, that is something wenger would never do

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31 Jan 2013 05:12:05
Giroud chipping in with a goal and an assist.

Great to see him proving the doubters wrong.

Giroud is just a good header? He has scored 8 of his 14 goals with his feet. Besides, as long as he's scoring I'm not fussed.

And he also has gotten 10 assists now.

I don't want to jinx anything so touch wood or whatever, but I hope he keeps improving and becomes a world class striker.

Oh and one more thing, Theo Walcott, what a goal.

Nick.

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31 Jan 2013 03:46:51
Must be hard for Bould not having any hair to pull out. Wenger sits beside him rocking as if his medication is starting to wear off, meanwhile looking like the Michelin man in that f##king massive overcoat. He could fit Santos underneath that thing. Our defence is as weak as the Greek economy, and szczesny looks as convincing as Lance Armstrong would look at a "Just say no" campaign.

So what do we need? Yes you guessed it. A f##kin striker! Wengers going by that old saying, "If it's broke, don't fix it." Unfortunately Arsene's philosophy doesn't seem to include organisation. Which is a surprise bearing in mind he was born so close to the German border. There's still some German traits that he has kept though. Impeccable time keeping, and an interesting choice in Winter coats.

So my day will consist of drooling over Natalie Sawyer. While Jim White creams his pants over Joe Bloggs leaving Accrington to join Fleetwood in a three year deal, for a bag of Monster Munch and a Curly Wurly.
P.S
How good was Jack last night. What a player :-))
UP THE GOONERS.
Flybo

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I think the saying is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

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Wenger looks ill. He sits on the bench like a nerd in an oversized coat, clutching his stomach, bent double.

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To the first response. It was an attempt at sarcasm. I guess I failed. Flybo

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31 Jan 2013 03:22:10
The difference:

10 years ago we had the BEST French players.
Henry, Pires, Viera etc.

Now we have Giroud, Koscielny, Diaby etc.
The Benzema's, the Ribery's play for the big clubs.

Giroud and Koscielny are fine, but not as good as Benzema an Ribery.

10 years ago we were the best because we HAD the best. Now we aren't because we have the subs and the 'lesser' players.

Am I making sense?

Nick.

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Yeah, I remember when Zidane Deschamps, Barthez, Dessially and Blanc played for us

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31 Jan 2013 03:18:12
What we could do:

Get in one of the defensive assistants from Real Madrid and one of the midfield/attacking assistants from Barcelona, make them head of their department at Arsenal.
They could take everything they learnt from their clubs with them to Arsenal.
We need better coaching staff because we actually do have a fairly decent list. We are just missing 2-4 top quality players.

How come Stoke are such a hard to team to beat yet we aren't? We have a much better list than they do yet teams find it hard to take points of them.

it just goes to show, that with the right system of coaching, a team could do great things.

We also need a no nonsense defensive midfielder, a brick rubbishhouse of a player. Someone to cover the back 4 while the likes of Wilshere and Cazorla tear defences to shreds. They shouldn't have to track back so much, we should have someone there to do that for 90 minutes.

Nick.

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31 Jan 2013 02:58:55
Boys, I think we need to take a look at SB's role - defence is the pits. AW is a great coach but no shakes on the defensive side so the problem is going to be there when there's a deficit in the ability of the player. Players like TV5 (who is playing great in TV5 land somewhere) and Kos need top coaching. It aren't happening at Arsenal.

Please for effs sake buy someone tomorrow.

2 Cents

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31 Jan 2013 02:51:58
This rumour is based on carefully analyzed information for use as a predictor for how this current transfer window will conclude for Arsenal.

The information used comes from two sources:
(1) Arsenal's activity in recent transfer windows.
(2) Arsenal's attitude towards on the field success in recent seasons.

The information has been organized and analyzed to form a reliable prediction using the thought process known as reasoning.

~~~

Prediction:

All hope is lost. We will sign nobody, perhaps sell somebody, and the standards will be dropped so low that qualifying for the Europa League will now be considered a trophy.

Sincerely,
Depressed Gunnersaurus

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31 Jan 2013 02:29:08
Hi eds & gooners

I was baffled to be honest with this game. I thought our mid and attack were superb tonight, however, the defending was just shambolic. I just don't understand, vermaelen mert and koscielny are experienced CBs that are regulars for their countries but seem like school boys when they play for us. The only reasonable explanation is that, wenger neglects the defense in training or doesn't work on it as much (that bloke Stewart Robson might have a point).

I love wenger but you have to start to think how much of the responsibility lies with him. He buys the players, he starts them, his tactics. I just hope wenger's faith in these players is repaid at end of the season.

Nate {Ed013's Note - Hi}

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31 Jan 2013 02:12:31
Greetings and salutations my fellow Gooners!

An interesting match to say the least! Both goals conceeded were a calamity of errors.

I see the angry swarm of Arsene discontents are all out! Fair enough as everyone is entitled to their opinion!

Surprisingly none despite what they claim to know actually have any factualy basis for their assumptions of their manager!

This is not to say that Arsene is without fault, but lets truly examine both goals.

The first goal started with Sagna slipping, TV5 looking like an amateur footballer and the rest that led to the goal playing like a bunch of panzees.

The second was even more comical, essentially a 1 on 4 led to goal in the back of our net.

Now before all of you go on about Arsene, lets put the blame of both goals squarely where it belongs. . on the players!

No not Bould, no not Arsene, the fault lies with the players!

I understand the frustration towards Arsene, but I ask you how many of our starting 11 do you feel you can improve on during the transfer window?

The difference between great players and good players is not their physical attributes or skill, its between the ears!

And guess what?? The elite cost money! So if you want such and such players to grace our club then ask your owner. . .no not the manager, to spend what is needed to win!

Now to the match at hand! Once again we started slow, I would love to know why! Our back 4 is beyond an adventure and with the individual talent again I'd like to know why! Once again we showed resolve to rescue a performance, this is why I believe we'll end in 4th!

Finally and I say this with respect as I respect the opinions of all our supporters, do any of you who truly believe for Arsene to leave that our club would do better with the current circumstances?

Ill take the draw but am looking for victories!

Gunners4Life, In AW we trust!

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Gunners4Life there is a fundamental problem with your argument and that is that it would take 15 years with a new manager to fairly compare his achievements to Wenger's.

We can't go back in time, but in all honesty if we had changed manager 3-4 years ago, I think we would have done better than just scraping 4th place each season. I don't want to wonder the same thing in another 4 years time.

We spend big and pay big and have international stature, we would attract the right players with almost any decent manager. Wenger can't lure star players anymore, and has got more player decisions wrong than right in the last 8 years.

We have numerous people at the club to deal with the stadium, signings and finances etc, Wenger was supposed to get us ticking on the park, but he focuses too much on the boardroom. We are showing no progress at all, not in the academy, not in our signings, not in player retention, not in scouting, not in medical treaments, not in tactics or training: the very least we want is to learn from our mistakes but we aren't even doing that!

Every transfer window we get the same jokes about "Interest in the Korean Sensation Fookin No Wan" and "Einstein said the definition of Insanity is trying the same thing repeatably yet expecting different outcomes". .well you my friend are insane to think that we could not do better with another man in charge.

When a new coach comes in you will see that Wenger was the proverbial handbrake holding us back all this time. .

redgoon

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31 Jan 2013 07:04:02
Gunners,

I don't want Arsene to go, I would love nothing more than him to stay and turn us back into winners.

I've posted enough about our defence.

Your final paragraph says it for me though, our circumstances are we have a team that is way under performing.

Man Utd are potentially going to win this League, with the exception of there one world class player, with a team that is probably their worst for a long time, littered with 3 of the worst England internationals and a host of under performing players. Yet they sit 20 odd points above us.

Take the transfer window out of the equation and who will spend and who is responsible for spending. Someone is responsible for the training and motivation of some quality players, does that lie with those clowns Gazidis and Kroenke.

Do you know, I even asked myself is Diaby sat on the bench unable to play but just to hide that fact.

Stoner

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But who buys, sells, chooses, motivates and picks the players? the likes of Santos aren't good enough. we don't have anyone of the calibre of CESC and RVP (sold without replacing) we spend so many games with Ramsey on the wings, completely out of position. its not all his fault, but much of the blame does lie with him.
BW

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31 Jan 2013 02:09:22
hi eds you never print my rumours or banter.but here goes .sick of wenger bulls**t .every transfer window, he lookin to buy at least one or 2 players.says he can't buy quality .well mertersacker is as slow as xmas .cant jump and head a ball.his passin was shockin 2nite.gus ceaser would be better.santos must have got them speedin fines rushin 2 micky ds after d local kebab shop after trainin.he worst left bac arsenal ever had.to spend 11millon on gervinho was a joke, his shootin is like a back pass or pea roller.surely he could sign better players than these.played well 2nite only 4 d usual cock ups at d bac.jack was outstandin.fightin 4 everythin.think theo turnin into a quality player, hold my hands up thought he was a duck.3 signings would make us a class side.plse arsene put back on your magic hat. . . sligo gooner

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Maybe if you could compose a sentence they might get posted, over here we have things like capital letters and punctuation in the right place.

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31 Jan 2013 01:42:02
Back to basics, play 4-4-2 with eight players working their socks off chasing everything down, and two attacking players that just focus on attacking. Move Gibbs into midfield and buy Baines for whatever it takes.

shez
jenks. kos. vermaelen. baines.
ox. wilshere. arteta. gibbs.
cazorla/podolski
walcott/giroud

redgoon

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Although i'd love to see Giroud and Theo lining up the front together, I just can't see us lining up with a line of four in the middle. our players in Cazorla, Podolski and Walcott just aren't up to the defensive shifts required to be put in for a rigid 4-4-2. even the Ox, Ramsey, Wilsher and Arteta are attacking minded players. to switch to the old style of play would require new personnel all around the field. that would mean spending money and we all know how that story goes.

Mike.

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31 Jan 2013 01:36:27
I know has had a couple of stinking games recently, but Koscielny is a good centre back against slippery forwards. He handled Messi pretty well all things considered, and in the EPL Suarez and Aguero are the closest you get to Messi.

Playing PM4 over LK6 against Suarez was an obvious oversight, it just seems that Wenger is incapable of making changes to suit particular opposition.

AW is so stubborn with the tactics, just like he is with the finances.

gun44

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31 Jan 2013 00:52:39
Anyone else think that the reason Arsenal hasn't signed anyone in this transfer window is because the players that Arsene wants at Arsenal, don't want to come to Arsenal?

Daniel

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31 Jan 2013 00:10:24
Same S##T different day! I think wenger needs to start wearing his specs during games because everyone can see our defence needs improvement not our striking options that can wait! In a perfect world we would've got m'biwa but no we spent about 2 years scouting and didn't do nothing about it! It's not like wenger has only had January to sort it surely in the summer he saw these problems but decides to do nothing it just doesn't make sense!

Obviously we're not going to buy a defender so the best we can hope for is CDM and wenger to let bould work with the defence but even that's unlikely!

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31 Jan 2013 00:09:09
Fulham closing in on Urby Emanuelson from Ac milan.

Strange one? Everytime i've watched milan he's been one of their star players, and now he's heading to fulham?

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31 Jan 2013 00:04:27
comming back from 2-0 down to get a 2-2 draw will now gloss over the face we were crap for 60 odd minuets tonight! and yes we got the old dribble, we got spirit, character ect ect!

that dose not explain why we seem to be starting every game so poorly and finishing it fairly strongly. I just don't get it!

I pretty confident we won't be signing any players by close of play tomorrow and now gibbs is out for a few weeks. personally I'd play TV at lb and kos in the middle with mertz! or mead at Lb or Miguel, or Jenkins or . . play 3 at the back. . . . point being keep santos out the starting 11! out the squad full stop!

brummy gun

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It will gloss over nothing, or at least I hope so. we were out-performed for an hour of the game, we still didn't finish all our chances, Wilshere still looks like the only guy out there fighting for the cause instead of just playing another game of football and the defense is still as solid as a sponge.
it's hard to look past it when it happens every damn game.

Mike.

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30 Jan 2013 23:40:25
on doing business on deadline day. .
I cannot promise that but we will work on it.

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30 Jan 2013 23:37:51
why is everyone after strikers. .DEFENCE, DEFENCE, DEFENCE. FFS there must be someone out there better than santos gibbs out for 3wks. .HELPPPPPP

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Meade for starters.

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30 Jan 2013 22:55:29
we are getting villa he was a unused sub tonight if there really is nothing going on transfer wise why would you not bring on one of your best strikers to try and win such a huge game! watch this space

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30 Jan 2013 23:15:51
why does wenger have scouts? cause he never buys any recommended players. he should save the money so we can take it off the price of match day tickets.
Wenger will sign no one this window, don't build yourself for a big fall.
Dublin Gunner!!

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30 Jan 2013 23:13:43
Tommy V. . get your head out of your ass. .

I'm not some soft. .you gave me 5 good matches so I'm love you type of guy. . .you are not even a top 10 defender in the league. .

I'm sick of it. . we bow down to these losers because they threaten to leave. . then leave. .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Wenger. . Wenger?? So Wenger cut our players' balls off. . he did that? We have no spine because our players are pussy little faggots. . not because of Wenger. .because some people, regardless of talent, are born losers. Always the bridesmaid never the bride. This is how I describe our delightful little collection of losers. . .LOSERS

Press will spin this into a victory because we came back

1. Liverpool played like a u-13 team. . so exactly what did we accomplish

2. Our defense is dogrubbish

3. Shezza is dogrubbish

4. Give me my Arsenal back

US Gooner

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US Gooner, Wenger saved a little cash by buying these p.ssy little f&ggots as you say.
You get what you pay for.
Ezdee

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Sounds like a man who has just lost some money. .

Never bet on arsenal to win. ESPECIALLY this arsenal team.

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Agreed US Gooner but Wenger is more to blame than you think

Look at the International Captains we have had that have been castrated by Wenger and his ways:

Arshavin,
Gallas,
Hleb,
Adebayor,
Rosicky,
Denilson(u21 Brazil),
Squillaci,
Metesaker,
Park,
Gilberto,
Song,
Bendtner,
Kolo,
Ramsey


have shown leadership qualities for their countries but with us they become quiet, submissive, one dimensional characters.

The only constant has been Wenger. .

redgoon

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Never bet on this Arsenal. period. heck, if they find out you laid down big money for them to crash out 10-0 against the big German side, they might just win the darn Big Ears to spite you.

Mike.

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30 Jan 2013 23:12:59
Hi ed, yet another keystone cops show from our defenders, they run around like a bunch of randy school boys playing kiss chase. Clearly Steve bould's input at the emirates doesn't extend beyond wearing the same coat as the manager and always wearing the look of a thoroughly depressed man. How a bunch of internationals, with stacks of experience can be so chaotic, collectively and individually beggars belief. They seem to suffer from footballers amnesia, they make the same mistake week in week out. How bad is the once mighty vermaylen? Mertesacker is about 9 foot tall but has the aerial dominance of a chicken, he could get pushed off the ball by a senses ballboy. Sagna has been hampered by injuries and santos is truly the worst footballer I have ever seen. He plays like he has just devoured a pizza hut buffet. I have seen more athleticism from a panda bear. How wenger can say we have all this quality, when this lot are so ordinary and calamitous. As for his Ramsey as a dm attempt, he couldn't tackle a suduko. Give me a break. If arsene elects not to buy, claiming he cannot find better players than this lot, then he is not only stubborn, he is truly taking us for a ride. Our defensive displays have been more slapstick than anything starring Leslie nielsen. Roll on 11 pm tomorrow. If wenger fails to act then it really is "send in the clowns". Night all, praying for a miracle. Frank serpico

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I laughed all the way through this, thank you!

Please post more often.

Metal Gooner

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Great stuff Frank, very funny. Thanks I needed a laugh.
Spot on all the way.
Ezdee

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30 Jan 2013 23:10:26
To all the wenger ar#e lickers out there are you happy he has
Destroyed our season again with his stupidness.
Yes I actually think he is stupid. .again our defensive unit let us down apart from gibbs they should all be dropped (i know he is injured) every game a defensive blunder costs us and wenger sits there like an person scared to fix the problem. I nearly had a turtlehead everytime santos got near the ball
Wenger lovers get a reality check and get someone in who can fire the team up from the start. . .big upto the attacking players who salvaged a point. . szecs is a timebomb a moment of madness followed by brilliance the defence is a joke and we need a defensive mid
One day left in transfer . .wenger f##king spend the cash

GS

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Yeah its Wengers fault for the calamity of errors that occured on both goals, understand your club and the ownership before you shout off on Arsene!

Stop being so shortsighted based on emotion!

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Your quite claerly being the one who is shortsigted.When will you take your head out of Wengers A**e . He has clearly lost it, he has never been close to a great defence, he's constantly picking an under performing sagna, and Verm over jenkinson and Kos, now we will have the utter useless santos at LB.
yet still he won't buy players in the transfer market, Saying we have 2 for every position.
My friend in my oppionion, Wenger has never replaced Vieira, Gilberto, Lehman, Sorry but he has Not, He hasn't replaced A Captain Since vieira, At That to Me is why we haven't won Nowt Since.
Dont tell me RVP, fabregas and Henry were captains, they was Not, They were only Captains cause wenger played with their hearts, so they didn't leave. All you wenger lovers, let me tell you something that you should get into your thick skulls, Wenger Wil Never bring back he's Glory Days, Its Not going to Happen, Then we Had Great Negotiators, now we have Greedy persons who see Arsenal as a bank, they`d rather take money out then make us stronger
Their Busniess mdel will fail, as you have to give something back, all they do is take.
Wenger treats us Supporters like fools, and most people like you, fall under he`s spell every time, he hints we will sign a big player, Suppoerters rush and and buy Season Tickets, Few week down the line, Hey sorry the club are not selling.its a pity he didn't have the neck and say that to alex regarding rVP, Mancini to Nasri, Clichy and Ade, To Barca regarding Henry, Petit, Overmars, Fabregas, Song.
I Can not believe that supporters think we will get any great players like Hummels, Goetz, Villa.If they did, shows clearly theie ambitions, When all Arsene is content with is a top 4 finish.Sorry but that's not Sucess.winning is, coming 2nd is nowhere.
And The stupidist thing is we are not that far away, get a 2/3 key playes and we are a winning side. instead of 3rd rate players cause Wenger can not Negotiate he`s way out of a paper bag.
Take your wenger tinted glasses off, and see, Unless your just content top take 4th, Well this year your going to be Dissapointed with 5, Oh well roll on end of 2014, and thank you but good riddanc Mr Stubborn Wenger.
AndyS

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First reply -
tonight was not a one-off. our defence is poorly organised and has been all season. the manager's job is to address this and make them more organised.
Oh yeah and the manager bought and picked every one of them, so, yes - it is the manager's fault.

AG

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To the guy who didn't leave his name and said wenger is not at fault. . .i don't know what planet you are on or if you have ever attended a game - I have been a supporter since the late 70's and to be honest this team is not the worst when attacking but it is the most atrocious and embarrassing when defending.
great arsenal teams that actually won honours were based on the foundation of a solid defence, workman like defending midfielder and a potent goalscorer, this team has none of the defending part.
i don't like ridiculing wenger more than the next guy but how long are fools like you going to realise wenger is taking us for a ride, he sees profit as a honour and victory, yet for us mere mortals who pay extortionate prices to see drivel would be happy with an honour.
week in week out I read posts that make you cringe 'in arsene we trust' 'you won't be able to replace him' it is utter bo**ocks - no one is bigger than the club not even wenger. he is a pawn to the gutless board - I would respect him more if he resigns on the grounds the club do not let him invest in new quality players if he is so adamant on buying only 'exceptional players'.
he is slowly destroying the talented youngsters we have at the club - the losing lay down mentality will creep up on them - how long before the future of our club jack ox theo gibbs start looking around and see they have no honours in the cabinet. this team I have said on many occasions has the potential to do well, when they attack they can destroy teams - but the defending is a mess, we need to cut out stupid errors and invest in players who know their job and execute it. we are everyones favourite club - why? - because we play pretty football, win nothing, sell our best players and are not a threat to the big boys - and who is that down to my friend - yes the very man united idolise!

GS

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30 Jan 2013 23:10:06
Really regretting the fact we didn't sign M'biwa would have been great in that defence today. Then again anybody would
kb

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30 Jan 2013 22:59:29
2-0 down with half hour to go finished 2-2 spurs an chelsea drawn so the table hasn't changed much if we had won an spurs an chelsea did aswell table wouldn't be any different so got to look at the table an say ok no difference chelsea an spurs got tricky away games Saturday so you never know might have David villa an diame or wanyama in the squad for stoke so keep getting behind the team an please get Kos back in the team an play Verm left back for stoke an let's get on a winning streak again

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30 Jan 2013 22:51:27
First and form-most Draw was a good result from two down dare I say we should have won.

Giroud once again scored and as'ted.He's a great player.Theo, Wilshere were outstanding.

We need a new cb, Mert's to slow and such a lazy player.When he's marked I always fear the worsted!

Santos had a good game in my eyes, swore when he came on but he played his best in ages.

I wouldn't mind us buying Wanyama and that french youngster K-Zouma (I think)

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30 Jan 2013 22:46:46
Wenger doesn't know what a good defender is. Can you remember the last world class defender he bought?

Wengers success was handed to him by George graham - a team that were good a defending. Add wengers attacking flair and the combination was deadly.

Since he nabbed sol our defence has been in decline and i'm sad to say wenger has been found out defensively

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30 Jan 2013 22:43:49
With Gibbs injured for three weeks with a thigh injury, Wenger will look to bring in a new LB as it seems Santos is on his way out following to many mediocre displays. Contrary to reports, expect Arsenal to be VERY busy tomorrow.

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30 Jan 2013 22:42:40
Gibbs ruled out for three weeks, which knowing arsenal probably means six weeks. But the bigger worry is at least three weeks of Santos, unless Wenger acts fast.

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