Arsenal Banter Archive July 31 2013

31 Jul 2013 23:32:45
I have been saying for a long time, the only way we will spend money is when we finish outside the top 4 and then when we do players will not be interested, what the board are failing to see is Wenger is taking us on a slippery slope South, mark my words give it 2 or 3 seasons we will be below Sours, Liverpool and Everton. willing to be proved wrong

31 Jul 2013 22:11:00
This is my prediction so
1st City
2nd Chelsea
3rd arsenal
4th man u
5th Liverpool
6th spuds
7th Swansea
8th everton
9th Newcastle
10th west brom

Couldn't be arsed thinking about bottom half

Haha you put us behind u! Really?
please explain how a team that finished over 15 points behind us last year will all of a sudden be in front of us, with no signings and a lot of injury prone players?
You will be lucky to scrape top 4 in front of spurs at this rate mate let alone over take us.
delusional :-)
CTR

Sorry but with our current team can't see us above 5th.

Haha u put us behind u! Really?
plz explain how a team that finished over 15 points behind us last year will all of a sudden be in front of us, with no signings and a lot of injury prone players?
U will be lucky to scrape top 4 in front of spurs at this rate mate let alone over take us.
#delusional :-)
CTR

Sorry but with our current team can't see us above 5th.

No way we'll finish above Utd with current squad.

Have you seen united's midfield? They could drop out of the top 4

One reason ctr yer manager and everyone else this current squad is the squad that turned things around after the bayern win which prob had ye all creaming but now that we have acted slowly as we always do in the TW that's all forgotten #FICKLE

At the moment its City/Chelsea/Man U top 3. Us and spurs for 4th/5th.

I'd be amazed if Man U slipped to 4th.

Ure just the fan ivan loves keep it up mate
#bobbins
CTR

Why amazed moyes won't hack it

31 Jul 2013 22:03:10
Spurs have spent a lot of money over the last 5 years or so. Even this window they have spent some big bucks, I know Bale sale is in the pipeline now, but could someone please explain how they could spend the last few years and we couldn't? We have far larger revenue streams then they have, even with the stadium debt we surely have, and have had, a bigger wallet. This isn't a dig at our set-up or anything I'm generally interested in knowing. Have spurs got a Sugar daddy I don't know about?

Sheeny

It's pretty easy. They didn't have a new stadium to pay back. The fact we I'd that and still stayed competitive will be a lasting tribute to Arsene. It has bankrupted others.

The Ghost of Terry Mancini

Hi Sheeny. Joe Lewis and a couple of other big shakers bank roll spurs. but their new stadium investment should put the brakes on their disposable income.

Walrus

How much is left to pay on the stadium?
CTR

How much is left to pay on the stadium?
CTR

Stadium is paid off

The stadium is not paid off. It pays off at a fixed annual rate until the year 2031. Then and only then can we say it has been fully paid off.

G95

31 Jul 2013 21:45:05
Feel need to say this, Mr Wenger. it's not your money, the board have agreed a budget for you to rebuild our team into a premier ship winning team not a challenge for 4th place team, please spend it or your replacement will and that will be a sad day for us all.

31 Jul 2013 21:40:46
The club are desperately trying to shift tickets for this weekends tournament, I think you will be able to pay on the door and even then I don't think it will be anywhere near full.

I just hope the fans don't turn the air blue, but they pay the money and are free to voice their discontent as long as they support the team I don't care, however I get the feeling we will see the papers running with the weekends cries for players and to compound it Napoli will be parading their marquee signing.

Do you think they will get the feelings of us supporters?

We have voiced our disbelief, discontent and unhappiness before, I'm afraid as long as we continue to meet out targets or target nothing will change. There simply isn't the personalities or desire to change. We have an investor not an owner and a chief exec who are only interested in bottom line and a manager who is free to do as he sees fit. We will have to just go through the motions until one or the other goes and by the looks of it this won't be happening anytime soon as thier is to much respect and loyalty to part on bad terms, they really should be doing everything to support one another and I don't feel this is the case with the current structure.

I'm pretty sure both days are practically sold out?

Well at least there were hardly any tickets left when I checked a couple days ago

noobGooner

I ordered my tickets about a month ago and you can see on arsenal.com what seats are sold, most the the lower clock end was gone

31 Jul 2013 21:25:02
bought my 15 month old son his first kit today, plumped for the away one, if only to beat my father in law to the punch in getting him a mannnoooo kit.
question is i'd love to get a full personalised one myself, the last one I got printed was the away white/blackcurrant one with CESC 4.
Question is i'm unsure who to get on my new one?
I don't have a favourite. but for some reason edging towards the ox or Jenks. reckon Jenkinson will become a future cult hero and future legend.
Any recommendations??

Your own name or suarez

Bergkamp5353

31 Jul 2013 22:29:59
just wasnt that prepared to go for bucktoof luis lol hate to see him in rosickys 7 shirt.

31 Jul 2013 21:16:42
any chance of el shaarawy the ac milan owner did say he is sellable

watford gooner

31 Jul 2013 21:58:04
ac should be stoney broke. would love him big style. future legend in the making disregarding his hairstyle. i'm only jealous as he has more than me

El-Sharaawy and Damiao would be next on the list after Suarez I'm sure.

31 Jul 2013 20:58:33
Hope this gets posted.
Everyone here guessing players claiming they talked to someone. It's rather amusing because that's what this page is about. but Imangine someone getting it right how much he would claim to be in the know.
anyway keep posting guys its all fun.
Hope we sign some players at least this summer though to make FIFA14 more fun :D
COYG!

Ask Malaga, he throws a lot of questionable (made up) rumours out there in the hope 1 will stick so he can do exactly that :-)
CTR

Ask Malaga, he throws a lot of questionable (made up) rumours out there in the hope 1 will stick so he can do exactly that :-)
CTR

31 Jul 2013 20:39:41
spurs have now got soldado 26 million pounds I believe, I am not saying we were after him but another quality player is off the market surely it would of been better for us to have gonefor similar targets who would be in the squad ready for the new season. really think if we don't sign anyone we may finish out of the top 4.

ty. 1

31 Jul 2013 20:32:18
Always backed Wenger to the hilt but I'm really worried that if we don't sign at least one superstar our lads will lose their confidence boost gained at the end of last season.

This will lead to the lads starting the season looking over their shoulders at the new strength in other teams and feeling too much pressure : (

Please prove the doubters wrong BOARD & WENGER and bring sum1 in! If only to keep some confidence in our ambition to compete with and beat the best if em!

Doogz Gunner

I think we should put a bid in for bale just to mess them up

Bergkamp5353

31 Jul 2013 20:13:00
Eds, Are we interested in De Rossi?

With Gervinho off to Roma, could we not do a part-ex deal with De Rossi as he is a good DM, both footed and can play CB too. He is 30 years old but probably still worth £15-£20m (maybe more) so why not try our boy plus £10-£15m. Would be a fantastic buy particularly as City and Chelsea want him too. Thoughts? {Ed027's Note - i'd love it to happen, so it probably won't

31 Jul 2013 21:30:05
would love it too. I reckon its down to our lack of intrest rather than him not wanting to. his temperament was suspect a few years ago but is such a strong proud player. Italy rely on him and Pirlo and they hardly ever ever let them down. I always assumed he would be like totti but money talks. still easily in the 15-20m range. affordable, but le prof just won't pull the trigger

De Rossi will stay at Roma till he retires.
It's not what people want to hear, or believe, but De Rossi is one of a rare breed.

Like Totti, Roma gave and continue to give him EVERYTHING.
He's won the biggest trophy on the works stage, and he can compete for his nations biggest domestic prize every year.
He was born a roman, and will die one, the fans revere him, and I think he respects that.
His father played for and is not a coach at Roma, and his wife and child are settled.

Again, like Totti, De Rossi could of had and probably still could have, his pick of the big clubs.
But stayed at Roma.

Call me deluded, (I prefer old school romantic) but I just don't see De Rossi anywhere else.
I love Roma, I wouldn't say I'm a supporter as such, but I follow them, I respect them and I enjoy them as a team.

I remember once seeing (on the internet somewhere) a Roma fan say that "Totti was born a Roman, he lives a Roman, he'll die a roman, and when he does, they'll bury him in the Roma shirt. "

And I have to say, I feel the same about De Rossi!


D

31 Jul 2013 20:00:42
there are many concerned gooners out there with the present state of affairs at the emirates, there are a few who are playing it cool and saying wait until wenger pulls out the ace from the cards he is holding close to his chest.
me personally I am confused and worried that wenger hasn't dipped into the mysterious warchest and bought in players where we need them (defensive mid, centre half, keeper and imo right back) whilst waiting for his big name marquee signing who in my opinion will not come.
with the emirates cup fast approaching and pre season almost over and the real games begin, we haven't signed anybody but a gamble on an injury prone striker yaya sanogo on a free transfer.
he may have talent but he is not the answer to our problems. we are not far away from a trophy winning team, if we can address our Achilles heel at defending and holding and winning the midfield battle we maybe contenders.
if we had bought earlier rather than waiting on players we will never sign they would have bedded into the team and be ready for the big kick off, but now as usual we will buy at lastminute.com and throw them in at the deep end hoping they gel immediately.
its obvious we have talented youngsters that are coming through but we need to invest in experienced quality aswell and win something now, its ok having youngsters filling the squad without the pressure when your winning trophies year in year out but not when you require that quality finishing touch that seperates winners from losers, 8 years is too long.
I thought wenger may have changed his ideology last season by determining the players he wanted podolski giroud cazorla and going out and buying them, but the higuain suarez fellaini Bernard etc sagas even if it is media talk should have been put to rest by wenger or completed. we are fast becoming a club who talk big but deliver nothing. it hurts to see arsenal football club in this position. I've supported them for 35 years through thick and thin and will continue to do so, but please wenger you have the resources to go out there and buy the quality and blitz our competitors into oblivion. so go out there be brave put your hand in the deep pockets and give us gooners a chance to put the smile back on our faces.

Hulk Hogunner

Agree

Rik Flairgunner.

I also have a message for arsene, it's not your money mate, they made this available for you to spend, so spend it, it's only going to go to your replacement if you don't.

31 Jul 2013 21:55:02
i agree. I used to think it was late as players had holidays, but pre season is well underway. players will be bought. but not perhaps who we reckon

31 Jul 2013 19:24:00
I am absolutely fed up with Wenger, who stubbornly refuses to deviate from his failed policies. As usual, when the season ticket renewal time arrives, we are signing everyone, Higuain, Fellaini, Suarez, Williams & Ceasar & what do we get? An injury prone 20 year old virtually unknown French player.
Without 5 major signings we haven't a hope of catching any of the big 3 above us, whilst the likes of Everton, Liverpool & the Toot, could provide further competition for 4th place.
Realistically, Wenger hasn't done exceptionally well since 2005. Virtually any competent manager could, with Arsenal's resources, finish 4th.
The current squad is woefully short numerically, with something like 18/19 players, after likely departures & not taking into account promising youngsters.
I will give Wenger the benefit of the doubt, unti 2nd September, but I would be extremely surprised if we sign any more than two players & those will not be the type of experienced pros we need.

31 Jul 2013 18:47:08
Looks like Suarez won't happened due to he's high transfer fee. I doubt Manchester United will look too offload Rooney as there is no marquee signing going to old trafford, even if he becomes available he probably go to chelsea.

So who is wenger plan m? Looks like all the top strikers have made thier moves and no one really good is available. Could this means gervinho stays? I really hope wenger has someone lined up

Noodles
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31 Jul 2013 18:19:59
POLL:

Cazorla at LW or Cazorla at CAM? {Ed027's Note - I've done it mate,also added RW as an option as he played there for Malaga and Villareal, Vote!}

31 Jul 2013 18:03:45
ed is there any rumours about us moving for lewandowski I think he would fit the gap for the striker and is there something secret going on with lars bender as we had one bid then nothing else are they doing it secretly?
YORKSHIRE GOONER {Ed027's Note - Lewi will go to Bayern next season, simple as that. If we're being secretive about Lars then nobody will know mate, not even me :(

31 Jul 2013 15:19:01
Got a poll Who would you rather be signed. Suarez or rooney {Ed027's Note - done mate, vote guys!}

31 Jul 2013 16:40:59
Any chance of Eto'o to Arsenal? Just a thought {Ed027's Note - nope

31 Jul 2013 15:59:38
Hi ed, I along with almost every arsenal fan, is totally drained by our lack of transfer activity. When our only signing is an aspiring postman (i know he is promising), then our frustration is totally understandable. Something arsene said recently regarding our dealings, he inferred the selling clubs still needed to find suitable replacements. This is causing delays in us securing new aqquisitions. The last day has seen arsenes cryptic statement appear in a more clear light. Everton are in the process of signing wigans james mccarthy. This is surely the catalyst for fellaini to leave. Wishfully maybe, the hairy one is emirates bound. I think we have a deal in place and I for one would love to see him dominate our midfield. Chico lopez

31 Jul 2013 15:47:31
Now, usually I'd be really angry with how this window is going but the past year has been so crap for me, I'll give Wenger the benefit of the doubt until September 2nd as I just don't have the energy to get mad yet.

Think we'll make a big Deadline Day signing to get us all excited. Maybe it's hope. Or maybe just plain old denial.

Surely Wenger can't be THAT stupid as to not splash out now?

31 Jul 2013 15:03:41
Eds, why do you think it is that there has been no apparent input from our sponsors in terms of player purchasing? I know Wenger was very selective with his words when he said 'they respect what we do and want to reward us for that' - but I don't think that is the case. They are investing in us because they think they will see some sort of return. I doubt very much that Fly Emirates want to part with £30m a year to not see it reflected on the pitch. I am amazed we managed to land that deal. And the new kit deal. Why would you sponsor the arsenal kit as we are right now?

I heard the other day that the sales figures from shirts has already brought a return of more than 57m Euros that was paid for Neymar. That is unreal. That's in a week. Also I hard that when Man U were going to sign Sneijder, their sponsors were working on a deal to part-fund his high wages.

Why don't we have anything like that at AFC? There seems to be literally zero pressure on Wenger to spend the money invested into the club for that purpose. The Emirates deal and CL money we received for last season is a total of £61.4m. That is money that has come into the club that is nothing to do with match revenue, shirt sales, player sales or anything. Just the emirates deal and the CL money.

Yet we still can't spend. And there's no pressure to spend, not even our competitors getting stronger again while we sit still. What happened to creating deals where we can sign the likes of Hazard because the sponsors got involved and subsidised wages, knowing they'd more than make their money back in shirt sales. {Ed001's Note - that is simply not true about United. Sponsors just want exposure for their brand and will pay what they think it is worth to them in that. They certainly do not want to get involved in player purchases.}

I can tell you that Emirates love boasting the sponsorship of top teams from London, Milan, Paris, Madrid etc and progression in the champions league is what they want as their return.
It's about market saturation. If Milan play Madrid in the CL final, you'll see Emirates everywhere; there won't be a photo without the brand name.
I work for Emirates and we lost out on a company bonus this year in part due to the amount of money spent on sports advertisement.
Sheikh Mo is pushing for a Grand Prix here, along with the World Expo in 2020. The aim is brand recognition across all sports.
It's extremely naive to think Emirates will not be expecting the investment to be spent on players who can push the club further in European competition

Paul

Because if we don't spend it the balance sheet will see it reflected in the ever-swelling profits column at the end of the company's financial year. Dividends-a-plenty for Silent Stan, Sir Chips et al!

CECEGUaW

I am surprised, it was a pretty big talking point that they were trying to get Nike to subsidise his wages.

And I'd heard of it in other things too.

But Ed, wouldn't it make sense to put pressure on the clubs you invest in to make big signings? {Ed001's Note - not really, why would they want to get involved in that? If a sponsor starts telling you how to run your business, you would just look for another sponsor.}

Accountancy note - balance sheet does not show profits, you'll find that in the Profit and Loss a/c. {Ed027's Note - i can confirm this, as this is what i am studying, the figure form the profit and loss a/c aka income statement is later used in the balance sheet

31 Jul 2013 14:42:26
Wondering if with all press coverage ect caused by out "saurez bid", this is a smokescreen by Arsenal for another target such as Rooney to be done behind scenes.

Cheers,
Mark

Hope your right mate, something got to happen very soon, or we are in danger of losing our "top 4 finish"

What's the deal with everyone thinking that Suarez is a smokescreen?!

Even with a full on gas leak explosion we are struggling to sign anyone!

31 Jul 2013 14:31:32
Not one of the rumours posted on this site has so far come true or even got anywhere near completion. Seems pointless placing newspaper speculation or what you heard down the pub on here. Would rather see some fact based postings. I'm hoping arsene finally splashes the cash but can't see anything happening in the near future. I will be pleased to be proved wrong.

31 Jul 2013 13:48:48
Got a game for those of us who cannot stand the transfer window currently. I was thinking about players for arsenal and their numbers. Which players are synonymous with what numbers? I will get the ball rolling.

1: Seaman
2: Dixon
3: Winterburn
4: Vieira / Fabregas
5: Keown
6: Adams
7: Pires
8: Wright / Ljungberg
9: Anelka? Suker? (I'm struggling!)
10: Bergkamp
11: Overmars
14: Henry
25: Kanu

None of the current team because I wouldn't say they've become synonymous with their number yet.

9 has to be Alan Smith.

Totally agree. Smudger is number 9. I can still clearly see him throwing his boot at the ball, making contact and the ball flying in off the post against Parma to win the Cup Winners Cup in 1994.

Legend.

Brady 7

Smiths first choice, but just had to mention Paul Merson.
Flybo

15. Ray Parlour

1. Bob Wilson pat Jennings
2. Pat Rice Lee Dixon
3. Nigel Winterburn Kenny Sansom
4. Vieira Fabregas Brian Talbot
5. David O'Leary Martin Keown
6. Tony Adams
7. Liam Brady David Rocastle
8. Wright Ljunberg G Graham
9. Alan Smith / Frank Stapleton Malcolm MacDonald
10. Denis Bergkamp Merson
11. Charlie George limpar Overmars
14. Henry
52. Nicklas Bendtner (LMAO)

Sol with 23

Rocky 7, sorry Bobby Pires was great but Rocastle takes number 7 for me

Paul

15 Ray Parlour :D

What a player Limpar was.
Flybo

Pires is up there or above Brady when you consider what he accomplished with us, with France and that he was PL POTY in 2002

31 Jul 2013 13:03:49
I would love to see in a few years are Youth/Academy players playing in our 1st team. We've got some great young players here.

The likes of.

Miguel
Hector B
Chucks Aneke
Akpom
Jon Toral
Serge Gnarby
Thomas Eisfield
Kristoffer Olsson
Ryo-If you can count him
Joel Campbell-If you can count him
Sanogo-If you can count him

There's a couple off young Arsenal players I don't have a clue about. Does anybody rate them?Are them players to look out for? One is called Wellington Silva and the other players name is Samuel Galindo. Could I have some info on these two players my fellow Gonners >-_-

Forgot to mention the most promising of them all. Zelalem.

Can't believe you didn't mention Gedion Zelalem- what a player he could turn out to be- another cesc in the making.

31 Jul 2013 12:44:56
I have a feeling Liverpool will be more likely to sell LS to some other team for 40 than to us for even 50, because we are probably the only team they have a chance to beat for that top 4, the first 3 spot are likely to be taken by MC, MU and Chelsea. So by selling us LS they will be probably granting us CL football and the money that comes with it. This means that we might get Suarez only if one or more of the following happens :1)we offer the 50+ million, 2)Suarez states he wants to move specificaly to Arsenal, 3) if Liverpool admit to themselves that CL is unreachable this year and we are not direct rivals (the case in my opinion, but they won't think this)4)if there will be no other clubs intrested. All this makes the deal unlikely. I'n not itk or an expert of football but that's what comes to mind through common sence and logic. I hope i'm wrong, because we need a player luke Suarez. The last of the stated reasons for him to move to us could be possible if RM sign bale.

31 Jul 2013 12:17:28
Here is to another disappointing transfer window and a season where we will be fighting for top 4 again.

I hate looking over my shoulder to see Spurs feeling they can catch up with us. I want to be back to days where even the remote thought of Spurs fan catching up to us was laughable.

I know a lot of you will tell people like me to shut up and support the team and Wenger and co. Well, for all I care I don't think Wenger will change and by the end of the window we will be deluding ourselves into believing that Wilshere is a new signing, that Diaby will be back with a bang. just like we deluded ourselves in believing that Almunia was a great keeper when Wenger refused to pay up for Mark. S. I for one am not looking forward to this window anymore. Yes, I will be watching each game, following each blog, cheering each goal and feeling sad at each loss. But, a nagging feeling will persist as to what if, we actually had spent the given warchest we supposedly have each window.

Ofcourse Wenger will get a new contract and we will be stuck with him for another few years, and the board will do massive PR until season tickets are sold. but at the end of the day nothing will have changed.

31 Jul 2013 11:10:59
So we still expecting all the massive changes at the Emirates that we were expecting from the rumours on here from earlier in the year?

1404
Say no to Suarez

31 Jul 2013 15:10:35
Did Suarez steal your wife mate? Be honest

Heard that someone bought 16 shares today of Arsenal, maybe its' Usmanov and something will happen.

Lol rue1025 I like that.

LG

No, but he did racially abuse her, bit her on the arm and then dived to the floor at her feet claiming a penalty.

I would still sign him for £40m!

31 Jul 2013 10:13:43
Eds arr we lookin at other Forwards besides Suarez at the moment? {Ed027's Note - not that I know of, there are alternatives though

31 Jul 2013 10:07:41
Is anyone else absolutely staggered at the fees being thrown around for Real to buy Bale?

Yes, he may become one of the best in the world but he isn't yet. The kids only played like 15 champions league games and last season was his only real consistent season where he began to emerge as a top player. Yes in other seasons before he has shown signs of brilliance but nothing consistent. Last year is the first time where he proved that he may go on to emerge as a top player but to pay a world record fee for that would be ridiculous imo. Even in today's market (barring silly fees ie. Torres, Carroll) he is at the very maximum a 50 million pound player and even that's pushing it for me. Cavani and Falcao both went for 50 million or so and they are both in a different league compared to Bale for now. I mean Theo last year scored 1 less goal but had 10 more assists than Bale yet Bale seems to be commanding around 70 million more than Theo.

The market has gone crazy!

G95

I think that Real Madrid know he's not worth 80-100million but they want him so they'll throw around stupid money to get him.

Agree. I can only assume they've just watched his highlights reel -
Don't get me wrong, he's a wonderful player and can strike the ball as pure as anyone in the game, but ask most spurs fans and they will say he goes missing and barely contributes to the other 85 minutes of a match.

50mil player tops.

AG

Agreed G95, Bale did look good last season but like you said Theo was only 1 goal off him!
Defo not worth all the hype!

It won't take them long to recoup the fee in merchandise and they will shift a couple players to make way too, but yeah your right seems silly money, more worried about how Spurs spend that money as we continue to dither in the market

1404
Say no to Suarez

I agree with you mate the fees being thrown around are rediculous over 50 million for suarez who don't play a full season due to his behavour and 60 million for luiz who is a s*** defender and 85 million for bale am I midsing something because there is no waty he is better than neymar, messi or ronaldo and he is not even close I can see him going to real madrid and being a massive flop look what happened to owen, beckham and mcmanaman he will be loved for 1 or maybe 2 seasons and that's it and as for suarez I for 1 don't want him at our club unsettling us because the way he is his record speaks for its self
Ali

Totally agree mate. 11 CL games 3 yrs ago? Never won anything? No where near as marketable as ronaldo or messi and as you stated has had 1 decent season. I'm with you mate 40-50 mill top whack. And Levy turns it down? If bale was to have a s***ter next year what would he be worth then?

The only thing I find more staggering about the offer for Bale is Levy's refusal to accept it. He is delusional if he thinks Bale for one more season is more valuable than £80m. Money brought people to City when they weren't a CL team, and that money would bring players to Spurs. You just need to sell them a vision. AVB could definitely afford to bring world class players in and that could change the future of their club forever. To me there would be more of a guarantee of CL football with that money being spent strengthening the squad than by keeping Bale and not receiving that money.

Thought spain was bankrupt! aren't we still waiting for payments from cesc etc. good luck to the spurs if they can get it, makes me wonder we let rvp go for a song.

31 Jul 2013 14:09:20
so what you call Levy?. rejected 85 mill? and holding out for 100 mill.
lets pray it never happens. coz. if they start reinvesting. then they would challenge the title.
Could see suarez heading to spurs. {Ed027's Note - Suarez at Spurs? lets not be silly, why an earth would he go there

If the fee, never mind how ridiculous it is, is 85 million and Real decide to pay then they would be stupid to turn it down!

With that they could get there 30 goal a season striker, a playmaker to replace Modric, a decent replacement for Bale and a decent left back.

They would be very dangerous if that happened so let's keep all fingers crossed that Bale goes and Levy sticks the money in the bank!

G95

01 Aug 2013 00:44:52
Ed027 - whilst I understand your frustration in the transfer market being an arsenal fan but why not suarez to spurs, they are showing a lot more ambition and players see this vision. ok you have consecutively have made champions league football but apart from this what is there to offer. I wouldn't want suarez at spurs to be honest, he is a mercenary who would bring bad publicity to the club, no club needs that not even for 30+ goals a season and on the flip side a few years down the line he will end up in spain {Ed027's Note - simple mate, CL football, he'd look like a right tit if he left Liverpool for a non-CL club, also I don't see Levy as the type to go and splash 50m on Suarez after getting 80m++ from Bale, he's a business man, he'll get in someone like Griezeman (who is a tidy little player btw) who can improve and get a profit on. Modric left and Levy bought Dembele as his replacement at 15m (bargain) Dembele could go for double that in todays market, maybe it's just me, but he is truly outstanding, a all round midfielder. I think the same will happen with Bale, once he leaves, I can almost guarantee his replacement won't cost half of what Bale goes for

31 Jul 2013 08:56:01
Looking at our squad and taking into account likely departures. We need a centre back, a defensive midfield player, a central offensive midfield player, a wide left player & a forward. Failing which it will be the usual battle for 4th place. These signings need to be experienced quality players.

Whole new team?

Spot on!

G95

We need to cover some of those positions. Ideally a CDM that can cover CB (like Song could) and one forward player - preferably a strike like Suarez who can cover LW too.

Thats only two players we really need IMO. If we can't get a player to cover CDM and CB then a young CB and a CDM player would fit and that's only three players we need.

Another forward player, Goalkeeper or defensive signing would be bonuses.

We have enough central offensive players (Cazorla, Wilshere, Rosicky).

Not forgetting another goalkeeper!

Alibo, Belfast

Red Rooster,

It's not exactly a whole new team. It's 5 players that would take us to the next level if they were all top quality!

Personally, I believe the poster is on the money with this post.

G95

31 Jul 2013 08:39:19
If our neighbours sell to Real, would they try to appease their followers by a double counter swoop of Rooney and Suarez?
If so that would extinguish our summer targets, leaving us with our annual last minute shopping splurge in the bargain basement.

Rooney and Suarez would want to go to a club in the champions league.
Flybo

You think rooney & suarez would play for spurs?!

Paul

I know its the spurs and it would be easy to dis them, but the reality is players want to play in the cl- they can't offer that, so its unlikely, even with the money that those players would join imo.

Ronney and Suarez want to play Champions League. The Bale money would mostly line Levy's pockets.

Rooney and Suarez playing for spurs?! Are you freaking kidding me?! No champs league, their one man team being sold and Levy and Lewis will bank a fair wedge of any Bale cash to make up for not making the champions league.

Stop talking rubbish and getting your knickers in a bunch!

That just made me crack up.

rooney and saurez, together. double swoop! by the spurs.

what is the world coming to.

31 Jul 2013 14:10:43
Flybo.
They just have to be patient for 12 months. because I could see spurs in CL with those two in the team and with the money of 50 mill to be spend

31 Jul 2013 06:31:16
Anything that happens once will never happen again
Anything that happens twice, will surely happen a third time

RE: Arsenal's pursuit of Luis Suarez

Just to add, the way this supposed 40 million buy-out clause and subsequent 40 million + 1 bid has played out has been quite entertaining to say the least

31 Jul 2013 01:57:28
Radja Nainggolan for CDM position?

we need someone to hold for us, someone who naturally fits the bill, unlike Arteta the poor lad, he's out of his depth but he's still been good for us, but he lacks the strengths for that role, he's a playmaker not a tackler.

31 Jul 2013 08:00:36
Bit unfair on Arteta, it's not his natural position. but you are right km

Arteta out of his depth? What are you smoking?

Arteta was amazing last year, like Alonso. Not out of his depth, just a different player than DM

I love almost everything about Arteta, apart from he is not good at covering like he should, and he gives away stupid free kicks ALL the time. He just takes players out from behind, outside the box, when that player is going nowhere.

I'd take Nainggolan, anyone know what sort of fee would be required?

Four very relevant responses.

Someone fill me in on Nainggolan?

I see he is 25, Belgian and 5ft 9 and plays for Calgari.

What does he bring to the table as it were? If he is that good, why are no clubs sniffing around? This is the first I have even heard of his name.

31 Jul 2013 01:43:51
Do you think spurs have a better team than us this year? {Ed027's Note - like I said on you're last post about the top 5, wait till the transfer window ends, Spurs could well be Bale-less

I agree with you Ed. But sadly Levy is very effective in the transfer market unlike anyone at Arsenal, and AVB looks as young and dynamic as he once did before Chelski messed him up.

They have already made two effective additions to our none. Paulinho looks a talent, Chaldi may be more of a risk but at the money seems well worth it, and unless Soldado if he comes will add goals.

Yes Bale leaving would be a major issue, sadly he was the best player in the EPL last year. But Levy will deal hard and it will bring in £80m plus no problem. That will give them, sadly again, more than we have to spend. Keeping on the sadly theme they WILL spend it, unlike I suspect us.

So Bale will go but two or three top class players will come in. So yes Bale going could be good for us, but I fear not, Levy and AVB just seem to have a momentum and drive lacking at Arsenal.

We scraped 4th pace and in honesty while with a fit Wilshere and second
season Cazorla and Giroud I can still see us ahead of them the sadness of the debate is the debate itself. So much for catching United or City or winning trophies, let's keep scrapping with Spuds.

Yes there is time to go, but any effective club signs effective and early, the also runs scrap at the end for what they need. No time to settle in, no time to gell etc. I just can't see the Suarez thing as anything more than wasting our time.

The Ghost of Terry Mancini {Ed027's Note - They should take it and spend it, but you see Spurs are like Arsneal...a business, if you get 80+m for Bale take it and buy 3 quality players, thought it's easier said than done

Also bear in mind, CL football.

For example, all the talk about player + cash for bale? Di Maria has said he is happy at RM and has no intention of leaving and IF he has to go he only wants to join a club in the cl.

It's important factor, players want to play in the cl these days, even its only 8 games or whatever- its 8 games they won't play in a non cl side.

Plus, we will sign players! No doubt, let's see where we are in a month from now.

I believe if bale goes and the de maria and coentraeu swap happens with signings they have made already they would be stronger than us even without spending the other 50 million as well, because at least I am confident they would actually spend their warchest and with our squad so much smaller. We will be a few injuries away from Thursday night football at best and with the way levy runs his club will probably stay ahead for good few years as he will spend the windfall that is champions league football too stay there, so come on Wenger show some drive ffs as some fan's are losing the will to live

Levy is not that effective, Spurs have been trying to sign a striker for years.

Not to sure about that, Levy gets a lot more cash for his mediocre players than we do for our stars! Could hardly call him ineffective.

1404
Say no to Suarez

30 Jul 2013 15:09:02
when suarez moved to Liverpool he phoned home to tell his mum he had scored on his debut. his mum was very pleased, then Louis asked her how things were at home. not so good she said. ` your sister has been raped, your brother mugged at knifepoint, your father has been `car jacked`, and I was tied up whilst they ransacked the house. ` louis was distraught, `I am so sorry. ` he said. `You`re sorry` his mum replied, `you are the one that wanted us all to move to Liverpool. `
And people are wondering why he wants to leave. London or Liverpool. what would you choose. ?

Stan. the wrong man with the wrong plan.

Because none of those things have ever happened in London?

Mug.

Kind of xenophobic but quite funny, and I'm a scouser.

Yeah that's quite funny- but it doesn't quite work, because London can be just as bad. I know, cause I'm a Londoner.

Where's the xenophobia?

NI Gunner,

The xenophobia is relating to the Scousers, who appear to be classed as their own race.

31 Jul 2013 00:07:25
Just imagine Spurs sell Bale to RM for silly money and use it to buy Suarez that would leave us totally stitched!

Just pay the money and buy someone world class please AW! {Ed027's Note - No chance of that happening, he'll move to a CL club

31 Jul 2013 07:53:16
But I could see Spurs in CL next seaosn, regardless who the replace. 50 mill + conetrao + Dimaria. that's a bumper deal for any football club, + soldado + paulinho.
If this team doesn't get CL, then who would get it?
they might also get modric back with 50 mill in bank and get suarez?

suarez modric lenon
soldado
thats looks some team

Join the real world real you Di maria won't join conetrao won't join modric won't join and suarez will certainly not join

watford gooner

30 Jul 2013 23:50:21
hi ed teams please

Hi guys, if wenger signs prospects instead of established players who would you get, just saying 2 strikers: Insinge 9m plays for naoli class player. The other player I would sign is Rubinho, young corithans striker, a lot of pace. Came on during the liberatdores final scored with his first touch. Midfielders I would go kondogbia and will hughes will be a great player in the future. Wingers I went more established shaquiri and I would go for lamela. and defenders I would go for: zouma and I would also in january go for okore I think he will be great in the future.

Bergkamp5353

30 Jul 2013 23:30:40
Suarez not taking the legal route and liverpool standing firm on the pricing, unless arsene coffs up fast we could have all the Arsenal but no targets left. Personally I would never want a person like suarez in an Arsenal shirt (i said person not player) but i'm another desperate gooner and we'd all like to see that sort of qualty driving us

30 Jul 2013 22:49:10
So LS is off the menu at 50 plus million

Per the mirror the 40m clause means nothing

Back to the drawing board guys and quick as we need to bed in players

We needed that extra special player - where do we get a game changing goal scorer with pace and pedigree experience as he needs to deliver in season 1

Goalie, defender, centre mid and a Rooney type player are needed

SY4

30 Jul 2013 23:08:15
Seems Suarez now realises the clause in his contract doesn't mean Liverpool have to accept bids for him, it is looking like Wenger will need to pay £55 million for him. not a cat in hells chance, I personally think AW was just showing a fraction of an interest to kid the us Gooners into thinking he means business. I can hear him now " we tried but prices were unrealistic". in a French accent

30 Jul 2013 22:50:23
After missing out on Bernerd wenger to go after Scott Sinclair after the player posted online " fresh start ".

How easy it would be to be a journalist

Haha touché