Arsenal Banter Archive December 03 2014

03 Dec 2014 23:18:06
Martinez superb again tonight. Confident, dominates his are and has accurate, quick distribution. Should keep the jersey for me. :-)

04 Dec 2014 00:21:28
Agree Davros.

He hasn't put a foot wrong.

04 Dec 2014 07:00:44
I would say it shows more in our lack of trust for sheeza than how good Martinez is or has been that we want him to remain our no1.

The things I notice with Martinez is our defense seem more confident in him when they give him a back pass and his distribution and kicking is much better, this installs confidence alone the backline.

But I agree heshould keep the jersey.

I hope he keeps his place. iv said it all along he's a KEEPER

04 Dec 2014 19:08:49
That's terrible Derby :-)

03 Dec 2014 23:09:20
I will support Ramsey til the day I die.

But Jeez, he was poor again.

(Or maybe he just seems poor because he hasn't reached the dizzy heights and goalscoring of last season).

That is exactly why Dags, he was never going to hit that form again

03 Dec 2014 23:58:40
Very true Bambam

I agree with dags, he's looked really poor recently. Terrible passing and trying too hard to get back to that level. Given time he'll get back there but he needs to be patient and concentrate on getting the basics right before the wonder goals!

03 Dec 2014 21:53:30
Plenty of huffing, plenty of puffing, no houses being blown down, but we won, so that's all that matters.

Great character, if nothing else.

Take the positives.
1) we won.
2) 3 clean sheets on bounce.
3) we have Alexis Sanchez.

PS, amazing save by Forster in first half when he tipped it over the bar.

Could you carrying watching that for another 2 and a half years. Thank god for sanchez.

If I was Shezza I would be a little concerned about my place. . . . . . . .very impressed with our 3rd choice keeper

We didn't play great our passing was really poor. But koscienly still is a boss and martinez is looking like a half decent keeper. Looks calmer then shez and his handling and decision making was fantastic. Would be really disappointed if he gets dropped for him.

With all our injuries we still can bring on giroud and podolski. Onwards and upwards

Remys goal was good. I still think he walks into our team. He knwos where the net is

03 Dec 2014 23:27:36
Agree Derby.

Dags would it be Foster or Schez for you? Martinez has done very well, I enjoy seeing the young guns hit form!

04 Dec 2014 08:32:28
VDG,

Love Shez but Foster always impresses me.
His reflex saving and positioning are 2nd to none.

New ud back me up dags. was like fishing with a grenade, new you would come to the surface :)

Unsure on foster dags not his biggest fan mate.

03 Dec 2014 15:07:23
Reading the post it annoys me when fan go on about Campbell and Podolski

Modern day football has changed and players have to offer services both ways, attacking and defensively. If you watch Joel Campbell he offers nothing defensively, same with Podolski. This is why Chelsea sold Mata and the reason Ben Afra struggles to kick a ball now days.

Ox and Sanchez have been amazing at both covering and getting forward. Yes there are exceptions such as Ozil (who does get back, but just isn't very good) but you accept that from a player of his ability and cover as a team, playing him in a less defensively needed position (such as no.10 role)

Campbell doesn't deserve to start, the EPL is to punishing for players that only worry about attack (which we have found out the hard way). No he can not play as ST as JC and Podolski can't play with their back to goal and we play with a Target man. Which is why Sanogo started above them at Dortmund.

Yes he probably could go to another team and score a hat full of goals, but as Chelsea showed sometimes selling a good player can actually make you a stronger team

Agree about Podolski, not seen enough of Campbell, however looks like Inter want them both.

I'd be happy to see Podolski go as he is far too good and expensive to sit on the bench, but would love to see Campbell given a chance as he is young enough to develop his game for the EPL

03 Dec 2014 14:34:24
Is our 0.5 player Diaby.

03 Dec 2014 11:37:06
Red Dog.

Just to clear up what I meant before.

I understand that the money dried up when Dein left due to the stadium, but we still had a chance to sign players that were within our budget.

We could have had Hazard for 18m, Benzema for £20m and Mata for 25m in 2010. Any one of those was more than a possibility and we ballsed it up. Dein would have gotten us one of those players.

As for Wenger not giving youth players a chance. Campbell has basically been a ghost this season. Cazorla has been awful but still gets picked ahead of the Ox who's probably our most in form player bar Alexis. And then he plays a centre back at right back and a left back at centre back because he's too afraid of playing a young and promising right back to bring some much needed function to our defence.

Might clear my point up a bit mate :)

And a very good point it is to cig mate

Sorry ^^ that was meant for CIG, no offence RedDog.

And no offence CIG either, just think you were a bit harsh on Cazorla

03 Dec 2014 15:03:45
CIG with you on dein and the players.

As for Caz I agree he's been awful but he's been playing through the centre Ox is absolute muck through the centre. He was simply rested the other day, I think that's fair enough.

Chambers has never played CB other than our pre season and maybe 2 half games since then when debuchy was fit.

I don't know why people keep going on about this. I agree he looks like he has the shape and skill set to be a top CB and I'd personally play him there but that would be out of position.

He is an RB. Before that he played RM, and has had a small bit of time in CDM apparently but not professionally.

RD,

Cazorla has not been awful, he has played well, I think AW still see's OX as an impact player from the bench but he is pushing hard and will be a starter soon.

As for Hazard and Mata I think we did try our best to sign them, the ed's may know more but I think they chose Chelsea over us.

04 Dec 2014 18:25:39
337 I didn't see the Southampton game but before that he played only 2 good games all season. Was shocking before the WBA game.

03 Dec 2014 09:54:19
manu are clicking into gear and that's a worry for us. need a win tonight plain and simple.

There'll be top 3 by Christmas and looking to strengthen in January, they are serious about getting back to their best again ASAP.
Its disappointing how short our period of finishing above them looks like lasting

We should of took advantage and moved further ahead but we havnt and its a chance gone. shame

Don't worry about them, they were lucky last night they didn't play well, we need to start beating the teams around us like southampton tonight and we will soon climb up the table

03 Dec 2014 15:05:56
We only have ourselves to blame for being behind them

Maybe i'm dreaming but I think we will finish above them

03 Dec 2014 07:25:40
All this tallk of Thierry Henry returning to the club will not happen in the short term. It is clear that Wenger only employs backroom staff that are not a threat to him. The likes of Pat Rice, Steve Bould, etc are not a threat to him, whereas Henry or Bergkamp would be, hence they will not be employed by Wenger, until such time as he decides to leave.

Its my biggest concern that Henry returns as manager in waiting under Wenger's wing for two season's then Arsene moves upstairs in two years time but retains control of transfers and spending.
I think letting go of all that power is not an option for a man who believes he's the only man really good enough to run our club.
Hope I'm wrong

Would everyone really be happy with Henry? He's a legend no doubt and will be back at Arsenal one day but we haven't won a major title (excluding the fa cup) in 10 years and he has very little managerial experience.

I for one would be disappointed. I would like us to show ambition and bring in a world class established manger such as Klopp, Guardiola, Ancelotti etc to take us back to where a top club should be.

03 Dec 2014 08:39:50
Am I the only one who really hopes Henry is not our next manager. Great player does NOT equal great manager. Rather see Bergkamp as assistant to Klopp or Guardiola.

No top manager would let Arsene continue to influence things so its either or imo, if Arsene moves upstairs immediately only a rookie or a lap dog would be happy too take the job.
A two or three year gap from Arsene's influence would definitely be needed and then a return would be brilliant.
Dont get me wrong Arsene has been brilliant but HE IS NOT ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB he's a man who has served the club fantastically well

Most definitely G62. He isn't the type to take a seat upstairs and let someone else get on with it. When he leaves his post he mustn't go into some sort of director of football role. Which begs the question, if he does leave at the end of the year where will he go? Will he set off for pastures new? Back to France? International management? England could do a lot worse than recruit someone with Arsene's qualities.

I would expect him to work with the French FA either as manager or in youth development.
I don't see him going to a club side as a manager
But in 2 and half years time will he be able to give up the Arsenal mangers job? Or will he cling to power for as long as he can convinced that one day he will win the league and it will be done his way,! Scary movie or what :-)

03 Dec 2014 15:16:57
G62 I would have no problem Wenger looking after transfers these days. He hass shown he has no problem spending since we got our new deal And he still doesn't spend frivolously.

Ozil and Sanchez both accredit his personal touch to signing. I think a problem we have in such a global market is the competition is so great to find emerging talent that Wenger can't just pick them at will from the more obscure leagues and put a contract in front of them because everyone has there eyes out.

It used to be possible alongside managerial duties but now its such a massive job that he can't possibly hope to perform both roles to a high standard.

I honestly think him in the Dein role would be a revelation. I'd outsource contract terms given our wage bill but imagine Wenger with little responsibility but to scout secure and develop talent. That's precisely what made him a revelation in the first place.

A tactician then with a good report on the sidelines working in tandem would suit me perfect. Henry I believe will prove to be a great manager. Ruthless intelligent and boundless class on and off the field. But he has years to go before he takes the helm of a Prem team.