Arsenal Banter Archive January 03 2013

03 Jan 2013 23:15:07
With all the deadwood leaving its inevitable we will definitely sign some new players.

03 Jan 2013 22:38:49
Another transfer window that will fill us arsenal fans disappointment.

Just saying lads, Don't get too excited. Chances are we will sign one decent player that will not be enough to see us qualify for champions league. We're realy up against it this year lads.

Losing squillaci and djourou (and maybe chamach) may be a blessing in some of our eyes, but we don't have enough strength in depth as it is.

I like every other arsenal fan want the likes of mvilla, villa, Lopez, gotze and all these other stars to sign with us. Truth is there not as likely as we think. We may get one of these players which will in my opinion... Not be enough.

Sorry to put a downer on things.

Purchase

We have plenty of depth we need to sell to free squad spaces before anyone can come in

"we have plaenty of depth??"

Please explain to me how we have depth in defence? Also do we realy have a 25 goal a season striker. Short answer as much as you would like to kid yourself is no!!!! Wake up man!!

03 Jan 2013 22:25:16
Some may have noticed that Tim Cahill was at one of the home matches (Newcastle?) the other day.

Isn't he joining Stoke or Sunderland on loan apparently?

D

Who see him....i was talking to a friend about the need for a player like Cahill bringing much needed passion and desire much lacking in our team......he could be on Newcastles radar.....

That does not mean he is signing

I was at the Newcastle game too, does that mean I'm signing for Arsenal?

Stezza.

Maybe there to see his mate arteta

03 Jan 2013 20:58:12
Who Arsenal need to sign

GK: A reliable goalkeeper who could challenge Sczcesny

My Choice: Thilbuart Courtious £5-8M

DF: A full-back who can defend and attack

My Choice: Luke Shaw £9-13M

MD: A rock solid defensive centre midfielder

My Choice: Alfriyie Acquah £10-15M

CF: A quick centre forward who strong and can finish

My Choice: Loic Remy £10-15M

Any comments Ed? Lucas M

Remy is an ok footballer playing in a weak league.

03 Jan 2013 23:37:13
No way in hell Chelsea would sell us Courtois for 8 million, he's one of the best young keepers in the world.

Stezza.

03 Jan 2013 20:26:06
Hi anyone know if there's a chance we could make a move for Louis holtby I saw he was signing a per contract with the spuds but I recon he would be good for us obviously get ridof some deadwood first

I really dont think we need him.

Lets not forget about our own German wiz kid, Thomas Eisfield!

03 Jan 2013 18:27:17
hi eds do you know if there is any truth to brain marwood (ex man city transfer fixer) coming to arsenal in a "david dein" role?

or that wenger has approached a dallas-based super-agent (forget his name) to identify available talent get deals done for him?

i know that after darren dein's clients all held the club to ransom and forced moves away, arsenal have put policies in place to not work with such agents again in future (hence no follow up to interest in demba ba.)

Wenger needs help; i think he must spend all of his time on the training ground this jan to get his players up for every game, and leave the business to someone else for a while.

cheers redgoon {Ed002's Note - I don't know of anything other than rumour. I did ask someone associated with the club just before New Year and he said he had not heard about it at all. However, given his position at MCFC is potentially a problem and his background, it would make sense.}

03 Jan 2013 17:39:34
Why is it other teams get there players to sign contracts very quickly where it takes months for us either stay or go personally don't care

Shawcross thing also dragged out for a while

03 Jan 2013 17:04:53
Anyone here thinking of going to Munich in March for the game? Im checking out flights/hotels at the moment from london to munich for the 13th, and its coming it at roughly 300 euros for a return flight + hotel for the night. any ideas of ticket prices and availabilty for away fans?
Got a german friend that told me tickets for munich games usually fall well short of 100 euros per ticket, but for cl games..im not so sure.

Any info would be great.

Daniel

Anyone used onlineticketexpress.com ? Cheapest tickets ive found on there with away fans (in munich) for 200 euros each. Much higher than I thought...

Daniel

03 Jan 2013 19:10:54
I'm actually seriously thinking of driving to Arsene's house and grabbing him by the scruff of the neck, giving him a f******g good shake and asking him to explain to me once and for all what the f**k he is doing!

Stoner

03 Jan 2013 19:14:17
Apologies Daniel, that wasn't any kind of answer to your question.

Stoner

Stay away mate I had trouble with them over arsenal tickets before but at least I got em everyone ain't so lucky. Google online ticket express scam should tell ya more

David 6

Don't use them mate, saw an article on daily mail where they scammed this poor old man for Chelsea tickets he bought his son for xmas. Do a quick search on google about them and you will see.. Hope its not too late!

Seaside Gooner

Thanks for the responses guys, I'l definitely read into the company a bit before I buy a ticket.

Daniel

03 Jan 2013 16:08:41
When ramsey and gervinho came of the bench against southampton, i knew we wouldn't score any more. Our two most uselss players that get game time.

We couldnt' score the 80 minutes before they came on either, so what's the reason you're writing this post?

03 Jan 2013 16:54:45
That is exactly why we need Villa or someone the same quality as him.

We didn't look like scoring before that u clown

The point is we already had Giroud on so why didnt we bring on Jenko to help down the right and Rosicky to play through the middle - two things we were doing terribly. This would have allowed us to provide, and power through the middle, two things we sucked at all game.

Ramsey who usually at best passes sideways and Gervinho who is fast becoming my most hated player were never going to bring that game home and to be honest I thought Ramsey on was a defensive move to hold out for the draw. Disgraceful.

03 Jan 2013 15:04:33
When Wenger says we are active in transfer window he could mean only selling players?

03 Jan 2013 14:49:54
I really like the look of our first team, it could be really strong, there are however a few problems i see at the moment with the way we play that have been spoken about many times on this site, but i am going to re cap them in hope that someone is listening.

1. The formation is wrong for the players we have and the league we play in. We lack a quality winger how can dribble past players and put in decent deliveries to the front players, but we insist on playing players wide who are not wide men i.e podolski.

2. Our squad does not have enough quality outside the first team, ramsay and gervinho can be decent but they are not enough and need to be integrated slow so as to build confidence. if the first teamers are injured, tired or out of form there is no reliable replacements.

3. We are still susceptible to conceding goals via counter attacks and lack a discliplined holding midfielder.

4. The back five make to many mistakes this seems to derive from coaching and communication, Gibbs has decent physical atributes so do TV and LK but seem to lack organisation, this for me is a coaching matter.

5. The team is very inconsistant, this is a physical and mental problem. Players who are not used to playing so many games at such intensity are becoming jaded (Carzola), also the pressure from the importance of each game is mentally fatiguing. (not an excuse because we all have pressure and are not earning 60k+ p/w).

6. The team attitude is very gung ho especially in the wide areas, the full backs are asked to do alot of running to support the wide men and vice versa, leaving the defence exposed through tiredness and poor positioning.

7. The medical staff and injure record is a joke, the players seem to finely tuned, almost like race horses, and the slightest knock may leave a player on the sidelines for weeks (diaby), this signals overtraining and the wrong kind of training. The players need to be stronger physically and to be stronger pace and speed may have to be sacraficed.

These are just my opinions that I have seen over the last year or so, feel free to criticise!

Happy New Year

Pinchy the Gooner

I agree with you pinchy but you seem content with this?

There is so much that is wrong with the club from top to bottom. on the pitch Wenger's arrogance is personified by his teams performance.

Wenger has to prove he has learnt from his mistakes and start spending effectively on specific players for specific roles.

but he wont. and we will continue to struggle until he leaves.

1 - totally agree - 4132 of sorts would fix his - rigid disciplined DM with 3 mids in the mold of Santi Jack and ben Arfa (two guys good enough to take men on out wide and an amazing acm) playing two strikers in...we have the players to pull this off. Said it time and time again.

2- disagree and agree - in the sense that if we signed e.g. Ben Arfa and sold e.g. Gervinho then we would be chosing between the Ox and Ben Arfa which is a nice choice. However I also feel players like Eisfeld bring far more to the team than almost any forward currently playing for us, he is destined to be truly world class and imo he shows up the first team for the embarrassment they have been for the majority of the season! How many of those guys have performed admirably consistently this season? None. I do not include Arteta in that though. Nobody else has played to anywhere near their potential at all this season bar Theo. Players like Eisfeld deserve way more than they're getting and to be honest the club should not keep ignoring talent such as he, Meade, Gnabry, Aneke etc.

3- agree, if we played with Arteta at home as we're on the offensive like Man U at OT but on the road we played with a solid DM instead who stayed back, this would help against teams whose home crowd rallies behind them against us and who like to sit back against the gunnners' onslaught then hit us on the counter.

4 - totally agree - our coaching is getting worse and worse imo, we have the players, they have the attributes, why are they so shaky and disorganised?

5- Agree - also I think the players have been lazy. They do not play with true grit hunger and passion often enough. It shouldn't take a half time bollocking.

6 - Attitude sucks.

7 - Agreed

03 Jan 2013 14:17:12
Quick question lads, we're in desperate need of CDM

linked with M'Vila & Wanayma but out of the 2 who would you lot prefer?

Neelg134 {Ed027's Note - WANAYAMA

Fellaini

337

Mvila please!

Wanyama as first choice.

Let pardew buy the french misfits...seems to be paying dividends this season doesnt it.

Daniel

03 Jan 2013 14:10:05
Squid and Djourou are likely to leave this January according to direct quotes from AW.

That's about £100, 000 a week of wages cleared up, some of which should be contributed towards an improved contract for Theo!

Stating the obvious, but who knows with Arsenal..

A South East Gooner.

They are both gonna be loaned out arent they? so maybe its a 60% relief on wages...but then they will come back....we still have denilson and bendtner on our books 2. same as miyachi (is he good enough, and if so, why are we buying a winger?) and frimpong (is he good enough, and if so, why are we buying a DM?) and joel cambell (is he good enough, and if so, will we buy a striker?)

Arsenal have got so many players....its way past time we got rid of a boat load of them.

Daniel

03 Jan 2013 13:53:10
Hope we are able to get rid of the driftwood as soon as. It will allow Wenger to throw some more money at other areas. Walcott's contract being the first. Need a QUALITY attacking player, a brick s##t house of a D.M. On top of a reliable left back.

I wish the transfer window was just one day. The majority of the month your just screaming " GET ON WITH IT!" Come on Wenger. Please do something that excites us. Something that makes us believe 2013 will be a lot brighter then previous years. Time to make our first team better, and our bench look a bit more impressive.

Wonder how much time Steve Bould has with the defenders? Just putting it out there.
UP THE GOONERS. Flybo

03 Jan 2013 14:36:47
Something really truly f*****g exciting like Baines, Wanyama and Cavani!!

Stoner

03 Jan 2013 13:05:57
Ed, if Sagna was to leavez would you think Micah Ricards would be a good replacement? I think he'd certainly be willing to move as he's literaaly their 3rd choice RB and he grew up as an Arsenal fan.
Irish Gooner {Ed027's Note - i've dreamt of him coming here since he first burst on to scene, i like him a lot

Me too Ed he's one of my favourite players. I cannot understand why he isn't angling for a move this Jan, it is quite remarkable. He's made 3 league appearances and one CL appearance all season and he is actually one of the best RBs in the league. He is unbelievably good, it's such a shame he's on the reserve team sheet, his England career is a non-starter too. IMO he's light-years better than Johnson yet he always plays (to be fair he's good in an England shirt).

In the summer I read some mad story about how R Madrid wanted him for £25m - wonder what we could get him for.

Metal Gooner {Ed027's Note - we'd have to pay over 15m for certain, he's had a few injuries recently, he's what you call a TANK

He would be a good signing, but his wages would be an issue, he must be on 100k+ per week and we would never pay that to a fullback

03 Jan 2013 14:39:53
I'm with you guys, liked him forever, great player and he is an Abrahms with a capital A.

Stoner

Ed I actually looked up TANK in the dictionary and there was just a pic of Richards haha

I never understood why he never plays for England when he is clearly a great RB, and imo better than Johnson and Walker. Does he have a bad attitude or why is it that managers do not play him? I would love him to sign for us.
Chess

He's not in the reserves he has been injured for majority of the season

Richards is exceptional, I dont think man city would sell their players to us. They dont make the mistakes that we make.

Daniel

The problem with Richard's, is can we afford the petrol?


D

He would be ideal as a right back or emergency centre half, has power an pace but it comes down to wages are arsenal willing to pay to go to the next level.
GS

I think the reason Richards doesn't play for England is he said he isn't interested in just being part of the squad, he wants to start if he's called up. Capello had a problem with that and it appears that has carried on with Woy Wodgson. Would love Arsenal to sign him though!

Anhowa

03 Jan 2013 12:43:05
Shows how everyone over-reacted after the draw to southampton, after chelski lost to qpr at home. We are going to drop some points we are not expected to. The most important thing is to get behind the team, because with a couple of additions we will have a really strong team.

btw i feel ramsey is started to find his feet again, been impressed with his last few performances.

Posts like this p*** me off. At the end of the day Chelsea played woefully and still got loads of shots on goal and some corners - what did we do? We didn't even bother. We were a disgrace. If that Chelsea performance had been against our Southampton performance they would have won easily. As everyone keeps saying it's not THAT we drop points, although it sucks, it's HOW we drop points and when the team doesn't turn up and we throw away points when we have games in hand (wait, we've been ere before haven't we?) then it's perfectly normal for fans to rage about it. CONTEXT

Ramsey is useless now and we were terrible against Southampton. That is why some fans criticised. Even Wenger had a go and that is rare. We now have to win against City and Chelsea to stay in contention whereas if we won against the saints we could have drawn with these teams. If we can get 4 points though I will be happy (can't see it happening)
Chess

Mate i want chelsea utd city spuds everton to lose, any fan would make a fuss...i just want the arsenal to play and win and show some fight doing it. the difference is if they lose regular like arsenal they will make changes to team and tactics...we wont.

GS

03 Jan 2013 12:09:54
eds If Walcott continues playing up front do u think we will buy another winger or play oxlade-chaimberlain

We need a winger regardless of Theo's contract - expect Lopez

Ox not quite ready, and prefers Attacking mid, Podolski clearly not happy on the wing. Gervinho........

03 Jan 2013 12:01:52
Good afternoon Gunners!

Just a quick question to see what peoples opinions are regarding the transfers. I have heard reports that 4 new players will come in, in the form of;

Adrian Lopez
Wilfired Zaha (possible loanback)
Yann M'Vila
A CB

Would this be enough to get fourth!

Yes it would - IF they come, IF they play, and IF they don't play out of position.

That would get us 3rd, if Theo stays as well.

Citeh will implode, Spuds will fade as always and Chelski not as strong as they should be.

Arsenal will sign 1 player maximum in the window, and it will be at the very end of it. 4th spot will be up for grabs right untill the end..too hard to say whether we have enough or not...spurs look strong atm. I believe everton will have a lapse soon.

Daniel

03 Jan 2013 11:32:14
Hi Eds I just wondered if Afriyé Acquah was a realistic and worthy target to you. Don't know much about him but I have the feeling we'll see that kind of name rather than M'Vilas or Biglias...
Thanks
Stan {Ed027's Note - he's very realistic, would be agood buy IMO

Nice one stan, thats a new name on the page that has a realistic chance of becoming an arsenal player.

Daniel

03 Jan 2013 11:17:29
Why don't we go for Danny Simpson. He plays RB and can play CB. With Newcastle buying in debuchy we could get him on the cheap.

JW.10 {Ed027's Note - free in summer

Well I guess there's a reason Newcastle signed Debuchy instead of renewing...

03 Jan 2013 10:51:30
just throwing this out there, what do we all think about Danny Graham of Swansea hes looking for assurances of his future, he night be available and fits the new English lineup we seem to be aiming at

Bryan

Ask yourself this...would Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, Juve, Man Utd, City or Chelsea attempt to sign Danny Graham?

There lies your answer mate I'm afraid....

Good player but not Arsenal quality for the club we are and need to aspire to get to again!

Boisey

Ive caught it and am throwing it back.........not a player i would welcome, andhow are we aiming for an English line up by signing Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla??



1404

What an awful suggestion, he doesn't even start for Swansea!

Poor mans Giroud

Detroit Gooner

Just because we're going for a British look, it doesn't mean we have to bye average players

It's an interesting suggestion - simply because we're all crying out for these world class signings but in all honesty we are lacking fighters more than quality. We are lacking quality, but we lack fighters. Danny Graham is one of those no-nonsense players who never gives up, he has a good shot, good head, and great movement. He isn't a big name or some Spanish wizard but he s one of those guys who does not give up til the game is over, doesn't matter if he's 4-0 down or 3-0 up, he doesn't stop playing, and if he can nick a goal he will do what he can to see it happen.

When you look at some of the turd we produce it's actually very sad to realise that players like Graham, unbelievably, would improve us.

As always though, due to our formation there is simply no room for him. All the best teams play some sort of variation where they have two strikers in the middle. We are the only team that doesn't. So unless we do this, we'll always have Pod out wide, and we won't know who to play in the middle alongside Walcott or if he should play on his own, which, considering he doesn't do headers, is a no go.

If our boys had half the testicles that the swansea players or norwich players have for example, we'd be higher, and until that happens, players like Graham will continue to appear to be an improvement on what we've got.

I have never seen so many shocking performances, be it halves or entire games, in one season in my life - and we're halfway through and I'm talking about ONE team. It is embarrassing. We are the only team in the league who looks like it simply cannot be arsed to play. It really makes me sad. There's no closing, no pressing, no movement off the ball when we're defending and no movement off the ball when we're in possession. It takes a half time bollocking to get anything out of the players.

I just dream of the days when people are saying things like 'Cavani? Would he really be an improvement on what we've got?' as opposed to 'Bent/Graham/Shawcross - would he?'

Please no. Sorry mate but he isn't good enough.

Nick.

Why do people just throw these names in as possible purchases ? Today, Wenger confirmed "that his top priority is to sort out the Walcott situation ". We know what that means :- Don't hold out much hope for any new signings. It's the same old story. Fans are mugs, they'll put up with anything. Oh , and by the way Diaby is getting better. Should be fit by April !

Thanks well that cleared that up, it was only a thought, I just feel any decent striker should be able to score with the chances we create most of the time, perhaps not a big name signing but way better than what we seem to have in reserve

03 Jan 2013 00:33:37
Yah! Please don't post this cause if you'll be sacked but the least am not the one in shame of hailing podolski and wanna be zola when the boss of planks was being the boss oh yah! Remember me here when was here about fellow fans habits of encouraging and upholding sales of our experienced grown players but until we overcome those that can't stop trusting him before our voices be heard, that I still believe will happen. Until then! {Ed001's Note - I have absolutely no idea what on earth this means! Is this some kind of coded message????}

If you read that backwards, i think it means that Timmy fell down the well.

psychocyst.

LOL

This is one helluva post. It surely must me be something really deep and substantial.

Thanks for letting this one throughm eds. Made my day.

ASyD

PS: Praise Jah, mon

Spot on ed001.

I usually speak like that after 10 cans of Stella

Would this poster's and Malaga gooner's love child become the spawn of satan....

Billybob

What the......

I have never seen someone speak in hieroglyphics before?


North Carolina Gooner

All hail Podolski!?!

I've read this post multiple times, I just don't get it.

Nick.

Just say NO.

02 Jan 2013 23:53:41
arsenal need to sort out their defence: spend come of the cash that the fans pay for (highest ticket prices!) and bring in ryan shawcross, micah richards and mohammad diame...... that would be a nightmare for any strikeforce!

Firstly, shawcross has resigned with stoke and secondly he is NOT an arsenal type

02 Jan 2013 23:17:17
arsenal to sign ex SFL1 winger Robert Barr after recently impressing scouts whilst playing at East Fife. Meanwhile a bid for Celtic's Wanyama is due to be confirmed later this week

How many converted though? and it depends on whats being classed as goal scoring opportunity ? if youve got Messi upfront then a goal kick or corner to the opposition is a goal scoring opportunity but if you have Bendtner on the penalty spot with the keeper to beat thats not necessarily a goal scoring opportunity.
We are better off without players that dont want to be at the club, fact and Song wouldnt be ahead of Arteta, Jack or Santi anyway, and in Aarons case better off with some that do.

1404

Robert Barr, is he Demba's brother?

wtf

Whoopsie, my above comment was in reply to the above post not this one

1404

02 Jan 2013 23:04:44
Where is the leadership in this Arsenal team? Where is the physical and mental steel? Where is the desire? I just don't see it. When the going gets tough - Arsenal lose. There has been a distinct lack of attitude and physicality about Arsenal for years now. The players that we show interest in now tend to be technically good - but do nothing to address the major short comings above. I miss the confidence and swagger of old. I miss believing we had a chance against the top teams.

02 Jan 2013 22:32:45
i see my stalker this transfer window is some guy called paul...

paul i have every right to post what i want as long as i am not abusive to any 1...
i have a lot of good friends on here and have been posting on here for a couple of years if you do not like what i post then you do not have to read them...

malaga gooner

I wouldn't pay any attention to the haters if i were you, Malaga. keep the info trickling through for the rest of us. potatoes gonna potate.

psychocyst.

His name is Paul Skinback, he is friends with Jack Offthen. When they go out as a couple its sounds great.........

But you're never correct! Anyone can make up a rumour and start it "I am told..." You just waste everyone's time!

Paul

02 Jan 2013 22:08:13
same old story. i am really quite angry that arsenal do have any deals in place for new players to join on the 1st or 2nd day of the transfer window when it is glaringly obvious that fresh quality is needed in almost all areas of the team.

i hope i am made to eat my words this week ;)

gunnerS