Arsenal Banter Archive June 03 2013

03 Jun 2013 22:39:08
Assuming we add no one, this is the team I hope we start with

Poldi/Giroud.
Santi Rosicky Theo
Jack Rambo
Monreal Kos BFG Jenks
Shezza

As much as I like Gibbs, Monreal is a world class fullback. He is as good as Jordi Alba IMO. He is a luxury for us and will be the best LB in the PL next season

That team w Poldi/Giroud, Gerv, Ox, Arteta, Verm, Gibbs, Sagna, Fabianski off the bench, is pretty damn good. And there is always the Diaby wildcard. Arteta's age and slowing pace means he should be second half Scholes like substitute. See the game out when we are up.

As much as we are clamoring for signings, this team, as is, with the confidence of how we finished, should be a serious contender on all fronts next year

Additions will only enhance this, but as is, I'm still very excited

Monreal is a great player but I don't think he's quite world class. I think him and Gibbs should be rotated a bit and see who is player better then continue playing the player on form, nothing wrong with some competition for places! Gibbs can also be played as a winger if he is needed.

Wenger likes Gibbs better.

Maybe you have a point- certainly the second half of the season, as you suggest (Bould finally having an influence on our defence?).

however, the problem is depth, especially if we want to challenge for silverware. Our season, in terms of winning anything was practically over in Feb. This, I believe contributed a little to how we finished i. e. no other distractions in cup comps like some of our rivals. where we could've had more injuries, fatigue, etc.

So I get your point, but adding 2/3 quality and 1/2 good signings could really make all the difference.

here's hoping for some fruitful summer transfer business :)
LG

US gooner,

again you're optimism seems too strong. if you think that line up will challenge on all fronts then you and I must have differing opinions of what the work "challenge" really means. to me it means 1. In the league, making the eventual champions worry about losing their spot to us come the end of the season. and 2. for the cups it means we make atleast the last 4 or definetly win it if the last 4 have no united, city, chelsea. and champions league we aren't even close!

You are a perfect example of the clubs falling standards I have to say. you use the word Challenge way too loosely

I know we went on a good run of results at the end of this year. but we always do and bottom line is that we lose the the other big teams too much in league and cup games.


I don't get how you can keep throwing around this false optimism mate!

Scooby Dooby K

In the games he played Monreal wasn't as good as Gibbs for Arsenal. Arshavin was world class at Zenit, not at Arsenal. I'd still pick Gibbs ahead of Nacho, but I suspect the idea is to rotate the two anyway.

Chimney sweep Josh

Arteta > Ramsey

Monreal isn't world class. yet.

03 Jun 2013 22:06:22
My realistic but solid transfer dealings.

Clement Grenier 8 mil
Geoffrey Kondogbia 7 mil
Roberto Soldado 14 mil
Ashley Williams 8 mil
Julio Cesar 3 mil
40 mil
ST: Soldado-Giroud-Sanogo
AM: Cazorla-Rosicky-Grenier-Eisfeld
W: Walcott-Poldi-Gervinho-Ox-Gnabry-Ryo
CM: Wilshere-Arteta-Ramsey
DM:Diaby-Kondogbia-Coquelin
WB:Sagna-Gibbs-Monreal-Jenkinson-Bellerin
CB:Koscielny-Mertesacker-Vermaelan-Williams-Miquel
GK:Cesar-Szscesney

Would you guys see this as a good transfer window?

Would be good but I still think there is better than Williams around for that kind of cash. no offence to him meant but that's how I feel. real are holding out for 30mil for higuain, I think that with the chances we create he would easily bang in 30 goals a season so we should splurge a bit on him. he is the kind of top striker that would have us challenging again, he has a great goal to game ratio.

DJ

Big spending Arsenal then

I think with this team and those additions we could realistically challenge for the title. The only concern I have is with Williams, i'd rather get a young, talented CB to be fourth choice, rather than someone who has to be played now. in all honesty I think we could consider playing Miquel in place of Djourou. Soldado would be a fantastic boost for the squad, and although I haven't seen much of Kondogbia, and would probably prefer Gonalons, apparently he is a brilliant player
EF

Honestly, I wouldn't. I think with those signings we'd be no closer really to winning the epl. We need real investment if we're going to really challenge.

Chimney sweet Josh

I seriously do not understand how people can say that we cannot challenge for anything with the players we have and with new additions. I think we have very good players and a good team and if we play the way we played the last 10 PL games we will have a chance. I also agree to the point that if we need to challenge on different fronts we will need these additions. But how do we define a title winning squad I do not understand, I think it all depends on how we play as a team. Only the terrible start at the start affected us last season and I am sure it will not be the case this season.
Look at united's squad on paper, I think we have a team that matches player to player except for the strikers where they may have a slight edge and everyone very well knows why!
If we have some good additions for the depth, need not be world class then as I have said earlier also, it will be between Chelsea and us for the title next season.
Keep calm and COYG!

SM

The reason we turned things around at the end of the season is because we were focused on one competition only! Being in three cup competitions and the league is too much for our squad. It's not just 3 or 4 players we need. When we had the invincibles most the players on the bench could get in our current first team! Wake up. People said the same crap before this season started. And what happened, fighting for fourth place again! And we only achieved that by the skin of our teeth. We need major investment. Anyone that can't see that us deluded and will pipe up with the same guff at the end of next season when we play well for the last 10 games because we've been knocked out of every other competition!

We need a good keeper. No matter what anyone says Merts isn't brilliant. He's a good CB but shouldn't be first choice. We need a strong midfielder as currently they're all small and light weight, we need another winger as far as I'm concerned, or an attacking midfielder and use cazorla on the wing where he played for Malaga, and we need a top quality striker. Oh and another right back when Sagna goes. Jenks can't do it all by himself. We're not going to sign that many players, and it's not a great idea to sign that many at once anyway. Fact is we have to start rebuilding, and there is no way we'll win the league next season. We need to invest in players, then do the same next year, and hopefully then we'll start challenging again. Most of you don't agree, but that's because most of you are looking through your official arsenal glasses.

Chimney sweep Josh

03 Jun 2013 21:27:58
I still believe Chez can be a great keeper, I do see and fully support the idea of a top class elder keeper to push him and show him. Yes Cesar has been great at QPR and Inter, what's his English like though last thing our defence needs is more miscommunication at times. Proper coaching and a set back four who train together in front of keeper so he knows the best way to move his defence and how they will react during a game. No point signing any keeper unless they train with a set back four regularly. We must be one cohesive unit like in the 90's and early 00's.

I looked on Arsenal.com didn't see any confirmation about Denilson but glad it's happened. Like I said in earlier I hope we can agree a few more of these deals with the obvious players

Holmesy

His English isn't that bad. Saw him interviewed before the England game and only asked his interpreter once.

Denilson probably won't be announced on Arsenal.com until he has agreed a move somewhere else, the story would be sold as that rather than mutual termination.

03 Jun 2013 20:34:04
Arsenal need a vieira style dm like kondogbia or pogba, to provide physical power/ quality and to partner wilshere in midfield, to release his full potential.

Totally agree, kondogbia would be perfect

Vieira was never a DM for us.

03 Jun 2013 18:45:46
Just read an interview on Arsenal.com with Eduardo what a shame about his injury he could have become a legend at our club his goal scoring record when we signed him was unreal. If he hadn't got injured I think he would have banged in 20+ a year. That standing ovation he got when he scored against us said it all about the man and our club big respect. Delighted he is still playing at the top.

He was good for us initially but his goal scoring record was never great. He got 9 league goals out of 46 games.

If Eduardo hadn't got his leg broken I strongly believe we would've won the title.

Not being funny Connor but the lad broke his fibia or one of them bones and dislocated his ankle he never really recovered from that injury which was the shame

More Myth than legend, don't think he would have ever been that special tbh. people like to say that.
Bendtner showed promise at one stage and imagine if he had a bad injury we would all be saying 'he could have been the next Alan Smith' whereas infact he was always destined to be the next Christopher Wreh.

1404

Wtf Eduardo was becoming a good finisher for us and we would of won the title with him

03 Jun 2013 18:03:32
Rooney - Will not Happen.
Fabregas - Will not Happen.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but we do not have the caliber to afford their wages regardless of what the press say. {Ed027's Note -Rooney totally agree, but are you forgetting we once owned Cesc? He took a wage cut to join Barca

I still don't think he will leave Barca, He's the next in line to the CM position of Xavi

I think there's a good chance Cesc stays in Barca this year, but I really do believe that with Neymar Fabregas will be pushed down the totem even further.

Wages would not be a deciding factor for Cesc's return (although I'm sure we have the wherewithal to offer him an attractive package).

He would return because he loves the club and because we are putting together a VERY strong team.

I bet you're the life of the party.

Sergi roberto is anorther barca cm and is class, could see him possibly pinching the spot from fab as he is around 20 years old, that's great news for us. could anyone tell me what camacho is like?

Bergkamp5353

03 Jun 2013 17:27:39
just a wonder, jovetic worth 25mil, according to some papers gomez from bayern worth less. I think he is better choice by far {Ed027's Note - The whole point of a new striker is too give us something different than Giroud

Completely agree with the ed, Gomez is Giroud's German brother.

Gomez to Napoli.

It is a fact, mourinho improves defenders, fergie improves midfielders and wenger improves strikers. Right now he is'nt up to gomez's standard but he's young and I think will give a real lift to the squad. would be great with chambo behind him walcott on the right and someone like sanchez on the left, great pace and finishing with his passing match made in heaven. Don't forget kondogbia and welsher in behind them.

Bergkamp5353

03 Jun 2013 17:22:45
You know, I'm a kind and humble guy who often takes the moral high ground and avoids unnecessary confrontation.

So I must apologize to the unnamed poster who suggested we sell jack now. Yes, I strongly disagree with that opinion but I should not have told you that you are not a gooner due to your opinion. No hard feelings mate.

On the other hand, last week another unnamed poster slammed me for suggesting that I would not take Luis Saurez if I was manager due to his troublesome personality and off the field distractions. I suggested that he would cause problems in the locker room.

Well the mystery poster slammed me for my opinion, sarcastically calling me a sports psychologist and stated that suarez is loved at liverpool and fans love him because he scores goals and that there is no personality problem.

Two days later he states he wants to leave liverpool.

Thanks for proving my point for me bro, we don't need players like him on our team and even though he has talent to give away, he's a racist cheat.

Peace,

Taking morale high ground to a new level

Bergkamp5353

Arsenal is a great club with an amazing history. Not wanting to tarnish that isn't taking the moral high ground.

03 Jun 2013 17:00:50
So far, its bye-bye: Arshavin, Squillaci, Fabianski and now Denilson. Just need Chamakh, Bendtner, Djourou, Santos and Park to follow suit.

Who I want to sign: Cesar, Williams, Wanyama, Fabregas, Higuain.
Who we will actually sign: Cesar, Williams, Gonalons, Grenier, Jovetic, Sanogo.

Who I want to sign: Cesar, Williams, Wanyama, Fabregas, Higuain.

Who we will "actually" sign: Cesar, Williams, Gonalons, Grenier, Jovetic, Sanogo.

haha.

Who we will ACTUALLY sign: Cesar, 10mln DM (not Gonalons), Grenier, Sangogo.

Billybob

Actually, you're both wrong because no-one knows who we're actually going to sign, except from Mr. Wenger.

Even wenger does not know who he wants.

while chelsea wait for the second coming and city actually buy jesus, wenger is at lidl trying to find out if they have an offer on the quiche, which was 2 for 1 yesterday.

03 Jun 2013 15:35:09
players leaving

vermaelen

sagna

rosicky

gervinho

there will be a total clear out of fringe players like coquelin.

there could be as many as 10 additions to the 1st team squad.

totally new gk set up, do not be surprised if every 1st team gk is gone.

targets

gk-iker casillas/cesar

rb-corchia

cb-hummels and draxler are being looked at.

dm-ignacio camacho is seriously being looked at as a cheaper option to wanyama

there is interest in soldado as an alternative to jevotic, there is a huge gap in valuation.

cesc has told wenger he wants to come home, this could be on loan.

there will be a marquee signing up front.
it is suppose to blow us away.

thats what I have been told is the main plan, things go wrong in transfers, judge me on this at the end of the window.

i will not post any more rumours this window.

i would like all reply's posted.

regards

malaga gooner

I doubt any of the four players listed will leave, I'm sure everyone will also pick u up on the fact draxler isn't a defender, sure you know that just a silly mistake? No point taking cesc on loan, unless we can choose whether to but him or not after and if so we may as well buy him now, and there's no way any of us are going to get 'blown away', higuain is prob the best we can hope for.

03 Jun 2013 17:04:11
the big name signing being wayne rooney?

Garbage! All guesswork, bad guesswork too. You've been saying Rosicky is leaving for a few years!

Paul

Please keep the rumours coming malaga, please do not stop

Mofaya

03 Jun 2013 19:26:20
Draxler is an attacking midfielder

Eds, why aren't you posting this on the Dodgy Rumours section?

Come on! Why have a Dodgy section if this ends up on here. He has Draxler as CB for plums sake.

Not having a go but I'm baffled how this doesn't qualify as dodgy. {Ed027's Note - I'll do my job, you do yours

I know you get a lot of grief, and shouldn't be singled out, but Rosicky will stay, and Gervinho has stated he's going nowhere - Wenger's record is to give chances.

Wanyama I think is £10million of value at 21.

I don't think Jovetic will come, I think Higuain is a long shot, and I'm still hoping on Cesc.

Baggins

Sorry kounate at cb and were interested in draxler

malaga gooner

Malaga's turn to smash the sangria - not surprised you're banned from the burger bar!

Been banned many times from there.

1 day i'm going to buy it and kick the chelsea C*** out of there.

malaga gooner

My dream summer [won't happen] fabregas, rooney, pogba, cesar, sanogo.

Bergkamp5353

03 Jun 2013 07:56:07
Eds is Palacio any chance leaving inter? {Ed027's Note - Doubt it

03 Jun 2013 14:45:01
There is only going to be one Massive transfer story this summer and That is Wayne Rooneys transfer to Arsenal. It Will happen at the start of August, and will be the main story this summer.

Falcao to Monaco?
Moutinho and Rodriguez to Monaco?
Navas to City?
Gotze to Munich?

None of these massive transfer stories to you?

I think the OP means, a massive transfer in terms of the EPL.

Navas is a good signing yes, but hardly massive.

Not to mention Navas has homesickness problems. He's dealing with them however might still be a problem.

03 Jun 2013 14:38:08
This is the first time I have been on this site and as a 47 year old male from London, Who lives in Rep. of ireland. And a lifelong gooner, I just want to say a few words on the wayne Rooney Rumour. They are all saying we can't afford to match Wayne Rooneys wages, Its not About money with Rooney. He just feels he is not loved at Man. U. and wants a move. If Rooney leaves Man. U. Arsenal would be the perfect fit. For a start he would be captain and along with Wilshere would be the Falcrum of the team, and I believe it would give him more satisfaction leading Arsenal to atrophy than Man. U. Their is a lot more of this story to come out but don't be surprised if Rooney signs for Arsenal in the transfer of the summer.

Hi mate, welcome to the site. I am sure we won't hear the end of the Rooney stuff until the end of the window.

But one thing I do know is he would never walk into this team and become captain!

03 Jun 2013 17:56:32
Lol Rooney captain could you imagine the press conferences and the captains bit in the program

03 Jun 2013 20:34:12
The Wayne Rooney rumours is down to one thing. His agent a Certain Paul Stratford. This man has got Wayne's father on the payroll. Hence the only way Stratford or Rooneys father get any money is if he moves club or signs a new contract. Fact. It was only two years ago that Rooney signed a contract that made him the highest paid player in the EPL. Somewhere between 225k- 250k per week. Wenger should stop playing mind games with the Arsenal supporters. There is no way Arsenal will pay those wages plus Agents fees on top of a 25-40m transfer fee. Let him go PSG and pay 75% tax. Plus I think living near the bright lights of London would be a dangerous thing for a young man with a past history. Also there can be no excuses regarding lack of money being made available. Last years figures stated a surplus of 122m in cash sitting in the bank. on top of that Two new sponsership contract, one this coming season one the next. lots more EPL money and a champ league qualifier away from a lot more. Stop playing games Arsene and get some quality not cast offs. km

LOL Rooney leading the whole team to atrophy? Rooney should leave his fitness problems at home. The last thing Arsenal need is to get worse.

Rooney isn't concerned about money, it's not like he's ever had a temper tantrum about not being on 200k a week.

Bergkamp5353

03 Jun 2013 14:14:49
I am a big fan of T. Eisfeld. what do you think is the main reason he hasn't been afforded much game time this season?

Who would he replace?

What were you thinking when you registered? Change your nickname or go post on U'S page.

Wenger.

And because the reserves needed quality to salvage their dwindling rep.

03 Jun 2013 13:41:45
Arsenal have genuine interest in bringing higuain to the club. We are one of the several offers he has.

Wenger is pushing to make him an arsenal player as he is the missing piece upfront

03 Jun 2013 13:23:40
Is there much of a chance of Fabregas leaving Barca? United are linked with him and there's also rumours of us being linked with him. I think there's something in the contract that allows us buy him back for 35 million?

irish goooner

03 Jun 2013 12:38:39
If the rumours of a DM are true (whether it be wanyama, bender, etc) and we are in for Grenier, it would make good sense to send players the other way.

Currently, we have quite a few LWs and an extra Dm in Coquelin (who is looking for playing time). I think Gervinho and Coquilen the other way could convince Garde to let Grenier go.

Billybob

03 Jun 2013 11:36:06
Helloo hope you fellow gooners are well. I was just wondering does anyone know when the emirates cup tickets go on sale, line up looks good this year so thinking of going. Thanks for the site eds, it's become part of everyday life lol.

Brighton gooner

Arsenal.com would help you with that

I think its early July

03 Jun 2013 11:20:49
hi gooners. I want to give my take on the fabregas situation. I do not think he would move to another club if he is to leave barcelona apart from arsenal for the simple reason that it will be a loss if barcelona sold him to another club. remember the 50% share arsenal will get if they sell him to another club

YOu know its 50% on any profit right? THat means we only get a share on a price that exceeds the 30m paid for him.

It looks like it's 50% above what we sold him for!

03 Jun 2013 10:26:38
The main rumours circulating around the camp are as follows;

Danny Crowley - from villa young gun will play in the lower age groups for years before breaking through

Yaya Sanogo - I reckon he'll make a few cameo appearances from the bench in he first team

Julio Cesar - well the betting has been suspended in bookies which only suggests to me a deal may possibly have been done

Jovetic - 50/50 it's rife that Juventus are going to get him but I think the chances of us getting him outweigh our chances of David villa or higuain, so maybe.

Victor Wanyama - last time an arsenal player started to talk about another player coming in. It happened. I think wanyama will be an arsenal player certainly by the end of the month and would be a great replacement for Alex song.

Clement Grenier - rumours are rife that he's coming he's been quoted saying he wants in because of wenger so yeah I reckon a deal is imminent.

Ashley Williams - expected to leave Swansea but rumours seem to have died down.

More to follow.

Sorry but who was talking about Wanyama from the squad

Pleased with the Crowley signing - although many Villa fans are now giving it large that Villa is the best youth team going and if the guy wants out / Villa are prepared to sell, it's because he's not good enough! I hope that's just tough talk, he looks amazing.

Cesar seems pretty likely doesn't it, and it makes sense if you're Wenger and you won't let go of the idea that Szcz WILL be first class and choice again. IMO I'd prefer if we went all out, picked up someone like Mignolet and just moved on, ffff Szczesny, if he makes it then great, if not, who cares. In 7 seasons or so we can buy another great keeper.

Tbh this whole Jovetic thing is winding me up no end. He looks like a £15m MAX player, he's not 18 or 19, he's 23 now. As I said somewhere else he's about as good as Ruiz. He's not a natural threat on goal, he's more an attacking mid who gets forward, and actually Ruiz has a way better record than him anyway. As someone else said, a lot of what he does is pointless 'skill', just overblown football. And, from the games I've seen, he really doesn't speed play up. This whole Jovetic thing is winding me so much! I hope Juve announce it so we can just move on.

Would love Wanyama to come. Some people are saying Gonalons is the better choice because of his stats etc and that he's done well in the French league, but I'm not sure who would choose him over the beast Wanyama - he's clearly got what it takes, which is why the biggest clubs are looking at him.

I still think Williams is nailed on. As for Grenier, a week ago I would have ignored the rumours but the media really is giving it a go, so who knows?

Dave6 - Ramsey is currently licking his chops at the prospect and I don't blame him, means he can play in his preferred position is big Vic comes.

03 Jun 2013 07:36:59
David Villa is on 8m euros a year and barca still owe Valencia 10m euros from the 40m euro transfer. He will be 32 in December. Needs to play in his favoured position up front and not out wide. this is due to the fact Messi plays there. He has also had some bad injurys. km

He has had ONE bad injury. A tibia fracture in 2011/2012.