Arsenal Banter Archive March 03 2014

03 Mar 2014 22:36:08
I know we lost against Stoke, but everyone has a bad run of games. We need to win a game against a tough side (like Everton) or we need to win the game against Sp*rs to give us confidence. We always finish the league in good form, and I don't see why this year will be any different. However, maybe this is just me being the optimist I am. We can only hope.

03 Mar 2014 21:35:18
Ok boys and girls. I just posted my photo on the Arsenal Sightings . Who's going to be next .?

OI OI Goldboy and the Mrs.

Love it, I might do one myself, lol

Lets all get on board.

Lets all get on board.

GOLDBOY
Thats uncanny i'm not usually that good at visualizing people and getting to it right but if you hadn't named it I'd have still known it was you.
DG when you do yours mate do two, one with and one without the syrup :-)

What about you gunner?

03 Mar 2014 19:32:56
EDIT of post below

With regards the Suarez deal, someone at Arsenal has let the club down, be it Wenger or whoever, we should have followed it up, we clearly did our homework and got the fact right.

Really not happy with the current situation, we are effectively 4th in the league after being top for so long.

Here is my prediction. we will finish 5th, we have too many tough games to come, if we can't beat Everton at home when we were flying why can we beat them away. Tottenham is perhaps the only one of the next 4 fixtures I think we have a 'Chance' of winning, Chelsea away. we couldn't beat them at home, again when we were flying, why can we beat them away. City at home? will we manage to score 1 more than them?

We look lack lustre and short of a spark, AW has much work to convince me this season will be an improvement

{Ed001's Note - it was not Arsenal's fault, they are simply not binding in the UK.}

03 Mar 2014 17:44:38
With regards the Suarez deal, someone at Arsenal has let the club, be it Wenger or whoever, we should have followed it up, we clearly did our homework and got the fact right.

Really not happy with the current situation, we are effectively 4th in the league after being top for so long.

Here is my prediction. we will finish 5th, we have too many tough games to come

03 Mar 2014 16:27:05
I said it when he went and got some stick, will probably get stick again today but I will say it anyway. I miss Gervinho!

Yes I miss gervino too like I miss piles.

I am missing Gervinho. When he was playing I kept throwing things at him but kept missing.

03 Mar 2014 10:41:19
where has it gone wrong as regards winning trophies. well where it is right is the business model, very well run club that makes millions of pounds, with great solid business foundations. why aren't we winning trophies. well every great team has a great spine, that's just all top teams basic ingredient. when we were winning trophies we had seaman then lehman, adams then sol, vierra, wright then henry. for me first we didn't replace vierra, next we didn't replace sol and next we didn't replace henry although I will come back to that. put any of them into th current team and well I don't need to say do I. or put it another way replace mert with kompany arteta with toure and giroud with suarez and there's a modern day equivalent. you can't replace 30 or 40 mill value players with 10 million value replacements. because usually what you get is 10 mill standard. if you put mert arteta or giroud up for sale today no one would pay more than 10 mill for them and no top cliub would be interested. by the way their respective clubs paid 30 mil for toure 23 mil for suarez and 15mil for kompany. we sold rvp and this explains everything, for 25 mil and replaced him with giroud for 10 mil. instead of adding 10 mil to it and replacing with a comparable replacement we did what we always did and went bargain hunting. that is why rvp left. ah but we built a new stadium you say and we couldn't afford to buy quality. now here is where the business astuteness doesn't mach the nous, hey rvp new like a few others we had 100mil under the mattress. so this summer we spent 42mil on ozil, all very exiting but did we really need an ozil or did we need a adams or a vierra or a henry replacement.

Just to add to the post. The point I am trying to make is we had the best and never replaced them with an improved or similar version, we down graded when we actually did have money available and if we had upgraded we would have a better team we would still have money and probaly more, because we may have won trophies which would have improved our global appeal.

I understand what your saying and it is very frustrating why we didn't go for certain players.
The way I see it; there was 2 options, 1 the safe option and 2 the risky option. By risky option I mean that arsenal could easily have gone and spent huge amounts on top quality players, using all the funds possible and hoped to recoup the money by winning trophies hence more prize money, more commercial money, more publicity etc. the risk here is What If, what if we didn't win anything? That would mean we would have had to go to the safe option with less back up as the cash reserves have been used.
I'm not saying that's what they did or thought, just what I think they might of thought.
Me personally I'm ok with the route the club took, i'd rather be at the top for a consistently long time, rather then a short spell of trophies leading to a huge downfall.
But when I said I was frustrated it was because we didn't sign players when they were more affordable, the players we missed out on from over budgeting IMO. Players like Ronaldo (13mil), ozil(13mil) after the World Cup, hazard, mata, falcoa, Gomez, kompany etc

02 Mar 2014 19:32:23
Hi Ed any truth in the rumour Arsene is stalling on his new contract as he is unsure about what he wants?
I have had a feeling he might want to manage France while he still has a chance all season and lately he is looking more and more like a man who's tired of fighting fires constantly.

{Ed002's Note - It is not worth getting in to this.}

I don't think he liked the fans reaction last season & he will wait to see how France fair in the world cup & will take the job if they don't do well. I think his failure to sign a deal, undermines the club and it is time to leave.

So it comes out that we did actually activate Suarez's release clause and he was right to be as miffed to the whole situation as we were. All I take from this is that Arsenal for once did show the right ambition, they actually did offer the correct amount. Its honestly the first time in years Arsenal have done that so for once no blame to the club.

Moving on. Lads I read your posts on here all the time and WE ALL see the glaring mistakes at our club. Firstly I will say straight off the bat, I for one do not think we are done with Wenger not at all. I think all of our frustrations with him are warranted though. When he arrived he was a revolutionary and his ideas were what is now the blueprint to all top perm sides. The problem is since then, everybody has caught on and done the same and we were forced to stand still while the books got balanced. Now we find other teams beating us at our own game, so much that our own game is unrecognisable to the Arsenal faithful. Lads let's be honest Wengers arrival and first few seasons were like the first time we ever went to Toys r Us as kids we were spoilt, the transformation from solid back four and grinding out results and singing 'one nil to the arsenal!' In the North Bank were gone. We were winning by 3 and four goals, playing fantastic football watching fantastic players. We all expected that to never come to an end, however it has well and truly finished and this season despite our climb to the top its impossible not to see that. PAUSE AND BREATHE!

WE PLAY THE WORST BRAND OF FOOTBALL WE HAVE EVER SEEN UNDER WENGER! that's right I said it! We went from fast incisive football that cut teams to shreds in the blink of an eye to slow, laboured non progressive football. For any Arsenal fan who doubts this statement ask your self this:

When was the last time we scored a goal on a counter attack? . Its ok I'll wait . Still struggling?

This simple question tells you all we need to know. We have no pace in the squad whatsoever. Chambo and Theo and Gnabry are the only pace players we have on attack. Chambo missed the first half, Theo the second, and Gnabry not in favour it seems. Without pace in the team you can only play slow laboured football. So whose fault is this? I can only point the finger at Arsene Wenger. The team has been decimated to the point that we have been forced to sign players (outside of Ozil) that are maybe men.

No matter what anybody says Giroud is not an arsenal striker, a squad player maybe but not the lead of the line. technically he is simply not good enough, he has no pace to get in behind defenders nor has he any technical ability to dribble past them either, so what does that leave you with? A forward who spends the majority of the time with his back towards the goal he is trying to aim at and this is a massive problem as it causes the game to become compact. So that's why we always see these little one-two flicks because that's all they can do.

How do we fix it?
1) We need to sign TWO quality strikers, strikers who have pace and are able to take on defenders and stretch the game.

2)We need WINGERS! pure dedicated wingers, hazard and Willian show you what two good wingers can provide, we have Theo and Chambo but we need more, Konoplyanka looked very impressive against Tott, that sort of player opens space for our midfield that have an abundance of goals to come in and score.

3)We need a defensive Midfielder that can actually play football. Arteta simply is not good enough he weakens us at slows us down immensely, its hard to believe he was an attacking midfielder all his career when you see his lack of forward passing. He should have given us xabi Alonso type player but simply hasn't, no pace either so gives away some really sloppy fouls. Also we need a pivot player who is true box to box. Jack and Rambo for me are not good enough. Ramsey only scored because he was the only one of the midfield three that burst into the box. However we suffered once we didn't have the ball because he simply couldn't get back, jacks defending is woeful a lot of the time and Arteta as said before is not good enough. With a weak midfield defensively and no point of attack up front and no pace on the wings, its amazing we are where we are that's the truth.

A final note on our record transfer buy. for all who want Wenger out, bare in mind that Ozil stated clearly Wenger was the reason he signed period! As a manger players want to play for him that's a fact, its just the clubs can never agree a fee, Higuain was happy to sign for us but the clubs couldn't agree a fee. An example of changing a manager and finding all of a sudden nobody wants to sign is David Moyes! We don't want that. As for Ozil everyone takes a season to find their feet and I firmly believe if we get better strikers with better movement and some pace Ozil's assists and goals will come on massively.

So keep the faith lads, we will not end this season with a trophy, but as always we can only hope that Wenger and the board finally understand the best takes money and its as simple as that.

What a fantastic post

Just want to put in my case defending Rambo here. He's definitely good enough going forward defensively he's astonishing! Before his injury he had the highest average tackles per game in the league as well as he highest tackle success rate in the league. Playing him next to Jack works really well (last time we did we beat united) but I agree that jack too lightweight and is becoming inconsistent. I think rambo next to someone like Toure, with Ozil in front of them would turn our midfield into something special. Someone like Junior Malanda.