Arsenal Banter Archive March 03 2016

 

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03 Mar 2016 19:53:05
I reckon Spuds are going to rip us a new one on Saturday.

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03 Mar 2016 20:07:53
Your playing the reverse psychology game Dags and also hedging your bets.

It will be a lot closer than everyone is predicting.

I'm just hoping that it's a classic, 11 v 11 and no excuses afterwards because of player antics.

Let show the world that we are rivals but we can both put on a footballing performance that both fans are proud of.

Blue, White and Red.

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03 Mar 2016 20:40:50
Good battlecry NES, respect.

Still reckon you are going to tonk us though :-)

Oh God Derby, please don't mention Barca.
That's now a double tonk.
Could be 5 defeats on the bounce.

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03 Mar 2016 20:59:06
We need big performances from Sanchez Ozil and Giroud to win it.

Main issues now is without Cech and Kos we are even more weak at the back so Le Coq will have to be very disciplined aswell. Can't see us stopping them scoring so we need to be taking our chances down the other end. Let go for optimistic 3-2 to us.

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03 Mar 2016 21:00:54
No one wants to lose a NLD but if it happens it happens it will hardly be a weekend ruining event for anyone surely? A very good Spurs side have got fancy their chances of emulating the Manchester United academy boys and Swansea walking wounded.

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03 Mar 2016 21:30:53
Score draw classic for me, 2 - 2.

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03 Mar 2016 22:19:43
A draw Northeast mate! When is your next home game after this one? Hope its not to soon as our players could well still be doing our lap of honour if we get a draw, twitter will be awash with Arsenal player selfies marking their fantastic achievement of being mathmaticly safe from finishing rock bottom in 20th place before the first week of March is even out, and if that isn't worthy of new contracts and payrises all round I don't know what is.

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03 Mar 2016 22:33:53
I was confident before the Barcelona game, the man u game and I thought will do a lot better against the swans espacially after the two defeats. Now I don't think will stand a chance againts spurs and it's veey saddening.
Lets be honest they are the better team these days but hey anything can happen in football, right? I just hope it won't be embarrassing I can't stand another weekend indoors lol.

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{Ed025's Note - its got a draw written all over it moe, none of them can afford to lose it..

03 Mar 2016 22:34:45
Pmsl @ gunner.

We will have another chat Saturday afternoon. To see who's right. 2 - 2. What's your prediction?

And 'if' we do happen to be very lucky and win, believe me when I say, you know that I am not a fan who gloats. And I mean that with all sincerity. I like the rivalry but gloating is not my style 👍🏻.

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03 Mar 2016 22:50:30
Not sure ed mate, we are vulnerable at the moment and I think they will have a go which why it will go either ways but a draw.
Draw will give Leicester city an easy afternoon.
NES total respect mate.

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03 Mar 2016 22:59:24
Good night guys. Hopefully a great game Saturday.

Top man @ Moe.

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03 Mar 2016 22:02:12
I said awhile on this site. Sanchez ain't happy he will look to leave. Check BBC sport. The guy ain't happy. I do not blame him.

Massive summer ahead. Buy big buy early or game over.

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03 Mar 2016 23:16:36
I think most of us are past that gloating stage now Northeast mate ( maybe not Wodbod and Raver :-) I think we have delveloped a mataul respect as fans even if not as clubs, although good humored quality banter is always most welcome of course.
I'm just wondering should we get well beat on Saturday will you boys be able to match the amount of stick we give ourselves ;-) let's face it you can't out excuses us, you can't out laugh us when it comes to this current Arsenal set up so just what can you do better than us?
OK play great football, show real ambition, have a team to be proud and be heading in the right direction as a club from top to bottom, but apart from that i mean :-)

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03 Mar 2016 23:35:26
Night Northeast mate.

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04 Mar 2016 00:37:20
Oh dear oh dear.

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04 Mar 2016 08:07:47
I like your humour Gunner. As I've said previously we are but fans. And this is a game. We support our teams through think and thin. 👍🏻.

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{Ed025's Note - oh how i wish that were true N/E, as soon as a team lose a game or two its "get the manager out" or "sack the board" the modern day fan is a very fickle entity that craves instant success unfortunately..

04 Mar 2016 10:32:25
Not me Ed. that may change if we had a period of sustained success however?

The reality is that there are 4 competitions (at best, if in euro comps) that can be won by in any given season, and with the funds the so called top teams have had at their disposal (and have had over the past 15 years) in reality that reduces the chances of a teams chances of winning any of those competitions even more.

Nice to see that the 'usual' top four haven been broken this year, especially Chelsea, Man United and City. At least your lot go about business in the right manner, mixing the business aspect with a footballing philosophy, instead of throwing money after money at the team. look how much, City, United, Chelsea have spend on players over the last 18 months, and how they are performing now. I would personally like for a sustained period of failure for the three of those teams. a new day dawn.

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04 Mar 2016 10:32:25
Not me Ed. that may change if we had a period of sustained success however?

The reality is that there are 4 competitions (at best, if in euro comps) that can be won by in any given season, and with the funds the so called top teams have had at their disposal (and have had over the past 15 years) in reality that reduces the chances of a teams chances of winning any of those competitions even more.

Nice to see that the 'usual' top four haven been broken this year, especially Chelsea, Man United and City. At least your lot go about business in the right manner, mixing the business aspect with a footballing philosophy, instead of throwing money after money at the team. look how much, City, United, Chelsea have spend on players over the last 18 months, and how they are performing now. I would personally like for a sustained period of failure for the three of those teams. a new day dawn.

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03 Mar 2016 17:06:03
On a lighter note.

Can't wait to see eboue back in the prem 😂.

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03 Mar 2016 11:09:39
This is the time for Wenger to earn his corn and get back to basics BUT with a directive. IF you get the chance- Shoot! you do not always have to score the perfect goal.
By the way I have never seen an Arsenal team give the ball away as much as I did last night - sloppy.
Believe - you have the quality just show some fight and the title is yours.

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03 Mar 2016 11:30:45
I agree that Arsenal should shoot from distance a lot more often! When Elneny was signed he came with a reputation of being great at scoring from distance. I've only ever seen him pass sideways! Sanchez, Ramsay, Giroud and even Bellerin have demonstrated in the past they are all handy from range!

We're now in the unfortunate situation of having to rely on others slipping up for us to have any chance of winning the league. Come Saturday afternoon that will be all but over I fear. Not a happy 2016 for us!

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03 Mar 2016 13:50:45
How many times have we bought a player that can do just that and within the season that is knocked out of him. Asharvin was a classic example.
Sadly we need fresh ideas from a fresh coach. He was the right man when we were poor but we ain't anymore.
£125mill in cash 2 very rich owners come on there is no reason for not spending vert big now.

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03 Mar 2016 19:06:16
That will never happen Me Magoo would rather we had 12,674 passes than shoot from 18 yards.

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03 Mar 2016 19:42:44
Was thinking the same today, no matter who we buy with what ever reputation, Wenger will want them to play his way and that's it, and that's why his philosophy is done.

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03 Mar 2016 21:06:13
That the problem Wenger won't change his philosophy for the benefit of the team he is too stubborn and dare I say it is bit ignorant in regards to the other teams strengths. His belief is we can just turn up and pass the team to death and eventually we will score, not appreciating that you have to do the dirty work well also to win the battle before you earn the right to play. This casual complacent attitude has feed into the longer standing players and nobody takes real responsibility and accountability for their actions on the pitch.

I new manager is the first vital signing we must make.

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03 Mar 2016 10:11:29
OK this will get a lot of stick most likely, however;

Given Arsene's continued inability to get the maximum out of this or any team over the last ten years and the lack of top level coaches who are available. How receptive would Gooners be to seeing Jose being given the job if Arsene was to decide enough was enough?

He has a love affair with London, has an axe to grind and a point to prove to the EPL, would love to show Arsene how it's done and also hates Spurs. oh and he also has a track record, pedigree and a winning mentality.

Thoughts?

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{Ed025's Note - that would be a big mistake for me 83, jose is an egotistical arse hole who cares about himself not the club or its fans, his brand of football is boring and predictable and although things are not great at the moment mate sometimes the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence..

03 Mar 2016 10:34:12
For me, given that most top Managers are set for next season i would like to see Joachim Loew as my first choice.

However, that is not going to happen is it.

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03 Mar 2016 10:46:21
For me Mourinho would be cracking a nut with a car crusher and a complete over reaction, we don't need to completely reinvent Arsenal football club and lose everything we've ever been about to solve our current problems we just need a manager who is far enough away from the woods to see the trees.
Our next manager needs to be hungry for success and ready to make big decisions on players regardless of what the fans or anyone else think, Jack Theo Ox Gibbs Ramsey are as people like to say Arsenal through and through but their also very big underachievers who need to shape up or be shipped out asap.
The next manager needs to be some one who will represent our club well but also very ambitious for the club, Klopp would have done very nicely but who ever it is needs backing 100% from us all the even if we don't agree on all he does to begin with as a clear out will be necessary and we will all see players we like and rate leaving but you can't make a great omelette without breaking wind :-)

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03 Mar 2016 13:01:55
I take it you haven't got a lot of time for Mourinho then
Ed 25.Ha Ha nice one.

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{Ed025's Note - no lanesra, i think hes way overrated mate and can only operate on a massive budget..

03 Mar 2016 19:07:29
Totallly agree 62, GH at Chelsea would have been ok IMO.

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03 Mar 2016 20:53:57
Mourhino and Arsenal no way, his style of management with the players would just as likely make things worse. I think Mourhino has had his day now and his ego has got the better of him now anyway. Look at the damage he done this season at Chelsea with players he knew and respected.

Sir Alex and Sir Bobby don't want him at Utd because of his character and win at all cost philosophy not sitting well with them either.

We need a change from Wenger and his style but not to that extreme. We need a young energetic forward think coach that has some balls who will indentify our weak areas and address them and improve our tactical game plan, which we don't really have atall currently. This does not mean we have to scarifice attacking football just means we have to more intelligent and efficient with it and be able to adapt a bit more.

Klopp would have been the ideal fit for me, But Martinez is good fit I feel aswell.

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03 Mar 2016 10:15:17
Would you take wengers resignation now and let bouldy guide us to the end of the season?

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03 Mar 2016 13:04:02
No. Not sure what bould does.

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03 Mar 2016 13:13:16
He used to be on the touchline screaming at the players like a proper boss but I think wengers had a word n told him to stop, I wouldn't be surprised if wenger has altered bouldys training methods aswel.

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{Ed025's Note - everyone looks to be looking for a reason why things are going tits up je, for me its the stubbornness of arsene and i cant see any further than that mate..

03 Mar 2016 19:48:53
It's more about what Bouldy is allowed to do than what he does do.

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03 Mar 2016 16:59:54
Correct ed. it's his way or the highway and now it's bitten him in the ass bigtime. Something has happened in the ranks n behind the scenes because we where playing beautiful stuff with ozil bagging assist after assist n like me everyone thinks we're going to run away with the league and then boom all of a sudden we're no better than villa.

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03 Mar 2016 19:08:09
Agree ED.

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03 Mar 2016 09:58:53
Hopefully we are in negotiations with at least 6 players for next season as the club needs a shake up and rid of the opportunists posing as players. I'm tired of the excuses, If those players aren't motivated to have the fight for the title then it's time to go. If Wenger cannot motivate players to give their all then it's time he steps aside and is replaced by someone who will not stand for the unfocused and lazy attitude shown by players. Bar Cech and Sanchez, have any of them shown a desire and passion and never say die attitude? Sanchez hasn't been right since his injury due to carrying the rest of the team, facing burnout Wenger kept on playing him but due to his refusal to buy any players in the summer we couldn't allow Sanchez a rest . That is not acceptable for a club with the resources we have . Big changes need to be made and they have to be implemented now before next season . We are going backwards and if we are not careful we will be having an horrific start to next season like the one Chelsea have had this season. The board has become complacent, the manager cannot motivate and the players know nothing is expected of them bar finishing in fourth place .

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03 Mar 2016 10:59:19
As much as i agree that we need 5/ 6 players i can't see it.

The main problem is money, the apparent £75m tranfer kitty will only get 3 top players really and that's a push.

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03 Mar 2016 18:53:20
Mayson although i agree with your valuation of top players i feel the problem isn't the money it's Wenger, I've said it for a long time we will never win top honours while we have a manager that loves to gamble with no players in the arrogant hope he can tell the world and his dog that he told them so.

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03 Mar 2016 08:44:42
This Arsenal team needs to take a good look at themselves including the manager! shocking! embarrassed to be an ARSENAL FAN.

TAKE ACTION.

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03 Mar 2016 09:10:59
Don't worry there will be loads of pic s from the players looking gleefully happy in training over the next few days posted on Arsenal. com Twitter and Instagram, that gets right on my tits! Players should not be laughing and joking in training after a loss or bad performance, the should be showing the fans that they are working even harder to fix things!

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{Ed001's Note - that is something I don't understand. I mean why do they post up those pics? Surely they must have a choice of which pics are used, and after a defeat it would make sense to avoid those kind of pics and use ones of them sweating and grafting like it matters.}

03 Mar 2016 09:50:03
For me Ed its just part of the bubble Arsenal football club live in, we've been making excuses for our self's for so long now everyone board manager players even a lot the of the fans still think there all true.
Injuries, financial inferiority, players being tapped up :-) no players being available you name it we've said them so often they've become facts within the club.
Accountability is just not in the Arsenal vocabulary hence players like Theo asks for and get big payrises for doing nothing and the fans all breathe a sigh of relief we've tied down a 26 year old who if not injured for long periods is hit and miss at best.
I'd say a lot of our players have an awful lot to be happy about and share with the world on Twitter, they can't believe their luck, well actually they probably can believe it because they actually think their worth it.
Its a joke and everyone but the fans is lol.

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{Ed001's Note - I can't disagree with a word of that other than lol.....}

03 Mar 2016 10:07:59
Nailed it g62. Couldn't have said it any better. Good post .

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03 Mar 2016 08:36:20
I have always been pro Wenger, he earned the right to try and work things out. He was part of the stadium vision. At the time he could not have forseen that the Oil money would have come into the game and blow us out of the water in the way it did. I will accept that in recent seasons he has had money to spend and either chosen not to or just not very wisely.

However, time is running out. He needs to prove to us fans and more importantly the players that he is the man but it looks like there is no leadership and that comes from the top.
My views are changing towards Wenger i am sorry to say, time will tell.

Rumours are that we have £75m to spend in the summer. given current performances even if we spend every penny it not going to be enough.

Sorry for the negative vibe.

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03 Mar 2016 13:08:53
If rumours are true we have 75 mil, liverpool 100, chelsea, 150, manu 250, city 275. Sounds about right. Shoppong at woolworths again then.

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{Ed025's Note - think how the rest of us poor sods feel steve...we go to the pound shop mate..

03 Mar 2016 08:27:07
I think Wengers plans were to leave when we won the Premiership again. As a matter of fact I'm convinced that's what he wanted to do.
All I can say is "God help us all"
Can you imagine having to put up with him for the next umpteen years? .

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03 Mar 2016 14:24:23
Lets hope there's not a smelly corpse sitting in a long zipped coat on the sideline still hoping we win the title.

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03 Mar 2016 08:15:09
By the way Eds.
The title " Arsenal Transfer Rumours "
Is so appropriate.
Well done to who ever had the foresight to have come up with that .
Rumours is about all we are good for I'm afraid.

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{Ed001's Note - erm thank you I think.}

03 Mar 2016 08:23:17
Ed 01 you are welcome mate it's well deserved.

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{Ed001's Note - I am still not sure if that is a compliment or not?!?}

03 Mar 2016 08:33:14
Of course it's a compliment mate.
Every year all we hear are rumours about this player coming in etc etc . and we have got X amount of millions to spend and what happens? NOTHING!
So someone your end pitched the title perfectly mate.
Tongue in cheek I know but it's sort of appropriate now don't you think .

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{Ed001's Note - hahaha pitched? You make it sound almost grandiose. It was more of an off the cuff 'let's go with that' decision the site name. When we started up 15 years ago football rumours were limited to fan forums, so a rumours URL was available and it suited what I had come up with as a concept so we went with it. In those days, there were no transfer windows and Arsenal were active in the market. God alone knows what happened in between to leave Wenger and Arsenal so reluctant to move players out or in.}

03 Mar 2016 08:41:15
Nonetheless well done mate.
Ha Ha.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers, glad it worked out.}

03 Mar 2016 08:04:38
Oh well. Same old "S" different day.
Nothing seems to change too much from one season to the next at Arsenal.
It's got to the point where I don't even take any notice of us in transfer season and our latest run of results is totally expected in my opinion. I'm just happy that our best players confirm that they are staying as the transfer window opens! That's a result on its own.
Im fed up with Wengers post match snivelling about passion and this that and the other and whether we should have had a free kick etc etc. He needs to get a reality check. It was Swansea! we played last night not Bayern Munich or Barcelona.
Remember the saying "Lucky Arsenal "
Well you can't argue with that after seeing the other results last night can you?

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03 Mar 2016 07:53:13
Wenger!
Manager or Accountant.
You choose .!

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03 Mar 2016 05:39:30
The only good thing about last night is that all of out title competitors also lost and Leicester only drew the night before.
However, we now need to beat Tottenham on Saturday without the injured Cech and Koscielny. I only hope they are not out for long. Much as I thought we now only have two spare defenders, Gibbs and Chambers.
I have a horrible feeling that we will end up having the usual battle for 4th place and the FA Cup, may prove difficult to win with Chelsea still in the competition, never mind getting past Hull and Watford.
Perhaps we should take a gamble on Saturday and include Elneny.
In goal it will be Ospina. The defensive will pick itself. Coquelin and Elneny in front of the back four. I would then play Walcott, Ramsey and Sanchez, with Welbeck up top.

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03 Mar 2016 07:59:25
Leicester increased their lead over us city and spurs plus there's 1 game less to go now, great week for Leicester not so hot city and spurs as for Arsenal? We could hardly have done worse.
Cech and Kos being injured will obviously come in handy for Arsene and us to do what we do best but outside in the real world everyone will know even with them we were not even close to being good enough.

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03 Mar 2016 01:04:45
I had read somewhere that Stan is more than happy with the status quo and a brief look at the other teams he owns it should be clear he doesn't really care about winning or history. till he is making money, We need a change in the overall approach. We need people at the top who want the club to win things and not just treat it like a cash cow. If Wenger keeps his job beyond this season it will be clear that all Stan wants from us is a few more ranches in texas.

Wenger has to go. He has an excuse for every game we loose. Not once does he lead by example and take responsibility. And when he doesn't do it, the same attitude trickles down the team. Not one player looks like they want to win the title badly. Just compare the way we play and the passion we show in a game to Liecester or even Spurs for that matter.

The best change we will have in years and we have thrown it away. Even if we win the FA cup the fans should boycott the stupid parade.

Oh by the way! Keep the faith ;)

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03 Mar 2016 06:33:52
I fail to understand the criticism of Kronke, as it is patently obvious that Wenger runs the club. Wenger has been supported by Kronke and the board when he signed the likes of Ozil and Sanchez for huge transfer fees and wages. If Wenger had wanted to make more signings in the last two transfer windows, I am certain he would have been supported by Kronke and the board. Kronke has spent far more acquiring his shareholding in the club, than he has taken out. Indeed I can't recall him taking any large amounts out. The sole payments I do recall are to a marketing company who undertake work on behalf of the club, to which he has some association. He certainly didn't take any funds out to purchase his ranch. Indeed the club have £150m+ in reserves, which will rise to £250m+ at the end of the next 6 month period.
In the past Gazidis and the board have urged Wenger to enter the transfer market. Keith Edelman, a former director, was sacked by the club after he stated that the club could spend £100m in the transfer market and Wenger was livid.
Imagine Wenger has spent some of the cash reserves on a top defensive midfield player and forward, instead of wasting money on the dreadful Artata, Flamini and Rosicky, all way past their sell by dates. If you have to blame anyone, it's Wenger, but then again one could argue that he has been relatively successful, even in more recent seasons, whilst paying back debt and fighting the financial muscle of Man C, Chelsea and Man U.

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{Ed001's Note - I think you fail to understand how Kroenke leverages his shareholding in Arsenal, and its huge cash reserves, to get large, low-interest, loans that he uses to buy things such as the ranch.}

03 Mar 2016 07:00:28
Kronke and his wife are both billionaires, of course they may borrow against their assets, although in this case, I would appreciate it if you could tell us where you get this information that Kronke has borrowed against his holding in Arsenal. In any event he has so many assets, that realising his debt (if it exists) , would never come into fruition and if it did the financial institutions would simply sell Kronke's shares to repay the debt. The fact is that he has taken very little out of the club and has to the best of my knowledge backed Weger financially when necessary. The lack of signings at the club are clearly down to Wenger.

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03 Mar 2016 06:57:28
David dein warned us too sell to usmanov.

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03 Mar 2016 08:29:23
RG its down to wenger to. the plan was in place ride it out till FFP then we are laughing. it never happened and the rules are very relaxed now.

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02 Mar 2016 23:51:20
I really fear a hammering on Saturday, not because spuds are that much better than us, but at the moment are obviously, but you sort of know what's going to happen, its ground hog day. We are wilting away out of form and out of shape. This is arsenal.

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