Arsenal Banter Archive September 03 2014

03 Sep 2014 22:15:36
That number 19 for England looked really lively when he came on.

Sign him up Wenger!

Oh wait.

04 Sep 2014 08:53:29
Lol Greeny :-)

03 Sep 2014 20:53:49
Just read a link that was quoting RvPi$$ie saying "Falcao must fight for a place. ". I didn't have to click the link to know what he must have been talking about. The treatment table obviously.
I always thought that when LvG spoke of implementing his own unique philosophy he was speaking about football tactics. I didn't realize til after the TW closed, that his philosophy wasn't unique at all. In fact he if anything just copied the philosophy of their cross town rivals Chitty which is mercenary fishing as I like to call it. Just dangle shed loads of money and pray for a bite.

I wasn't sure how I felt about signing Danny Welbeck at first but after reading on forums and Twitter just how upset and annoyed some of the Uknitted fans were, and watching some you tube compilations, I'm excited to see him play for us. I hope he French kisses the badge when he scores against his old team the next time we play the mancs.

*the preceding comments were in no way meant to be offensive, it was just banter.

03 Sep 2014 22:58:52
I'm liking Danny more and more each day.

03 Sep 2014 23:56:26
Yep and i'm sure u were one on here demanding wenger spend no money this window om these so called mercenaries mate. I mean u wouldn't want a falcao Di maria saurez or ronaldo at your club winning u titles, ure obviously more than happy with SaNOgoal.

only banter as u say mate ;-)

04 Sep 2014 03:08:41
Spot on CTR.
I'd have loved any of those "mercenaries" thanks. And, if I only had Jones or Smalling to fill in at the back and I was desperately trying to sign a rivals backup centre half to start for us, I'd be signing defensive "mercenaries" like Benatia or even Manolas, long before I signed a striker just back from a serious knee injury, when I already have said attacking "mercenaries". But what do I know, all I can do is banter and rant from my cave in Kakadu.

04 Sep 2014 06:01:48
You have to love the Mancs two new signings and suddenly they have the Galacticos.

Saurez, Messi, Neymar for Barca value close to £250 million.

Bale, Ronaldo, and James for Madrid value close to £250 million.

Followed by Falcao, Di Maria, Dobin Van Twinkletits and a great big Jacket Potato for United valued at £130 million and a twix.

Next they'll be saying they're going to win the league, no wait hang on, they already have.

Maybe they could call their defence the Invisibles!

Lol Chris, I rarely post anymore but I knew this one would reel you in. I thought Sydney! would of dropped his two cents too but oh well, maybe next time. I'm not going to lie, I'm a bit envious over DiMaria. Up until a couple of weeks ago, he was one of my favorite players.
I was actually a little impressed with the DiMaria and Falcao signings, I mean it definitely reeked of desperation over paying for them, but the club had to do what they had to do to get the deals done so congrats and good luck this season. Hope you finish in second place 1 point behind us :-)
And how can you slag off Sanogo who once scored 4 goals against Benfica at the Emirates cup. Not even Messi has scored 4 goals against Benfica at the Emirates cup so look out, we may have a worldie on our hands!

04 Sep 2014 12:47:13
I hate the term mercenary. At the end of the day they are all employees of businesses. They all try and get that balance between joining a successful team and team that can pay them a very good wage. Going by your definition every player who signs for big money is a Mercenary. Do you think Ozil desperately wanted to sign for Arsenal? The Ozil signing pretty much exactly mirrors the Di Maria signing (Big player forced out of Real Madrid joins the only 'big' team able/willing to pay for him)

I really really hope Welbeck goes on to be the player for you that I wanted him to be at United. I think Wenger is the right manager to get the best out of him.

04 Sep 2014 18:33:25
RedRosie,

At the time Ozil was sold his price was genuine market value for the best No10 going.

You cannot believe that a lot of clubs would not have been in for him because that would be somewhat ignoring the truth.

He chose Arsenal.

This time around you have been prepared to pay crazy amounts for players that other clubs would naturally baulk at, even Mourinho stated there was no way they were paying that much for Shaw.

Who seriously is desperate enough to pay both Rooney and Falcao crazy money. No one, well except you.

Add to that Falcao wanted to go to Madrid and you can bet still does and Di Maria wanted PSG.

It doesn't say a lot for your club mate or the player.

04 Sep 2014 21:34:17
Ozil spent the entire of that deadline day waiting for United to make a bid. They didn't and he went to his next choice - Arsenal. Like it or lump it players will more often than not go where the money is. That is what football is now. If Barca offered a a tidy sum for Ramsey he'd be packing his bags and going. This 'loyalty' thing you speak of is dying out. Surely Arsenal fans of all people can see that!

03 Sep 2014 20:19:36
Wilshere and the ox looking class already this evening. Can ussually bank on me giving an honest opinion on wilshere as well. Sterling looks good as well. Rooney, 20 mins in, already looks poo

03 Sep 2014 21:38:19
I've just uploaded a heat map to Arsenal sightings of how Rooney was all over the pitch.

I think he's underestimated ;-)

03 Sep 2014 22:51:24
Don't you mean undercooked Red? :-)

He works so hard because he's always 5mins behind the game

03 Sep 2014 19:37:09
Scrolling through yesterdays posts I came across one questioning wether the media bias against us will remain now we have a good core of english/ brittish players.
Having a look on s website I see that adrian durham of all people has paid tribute to us on the daily arsenal for our growing core of brit talent!
Knowing him though he probably takin the mickey

03 Sep 2014 18:40:57
Good to see the mood on here is a little brighter today. Let's face it, the window is closed and there's nothing that can be done until Jan 1st at the earliest so sit back and enjoy the ride!

{Ed025's Note - thats the spirit greeny..

January window has been canceled Doc, the next person to mention it has to spend a day with Dags, yes the whole 24 hours think before you type

{Ed025's Note - i would sooner be stuck in a lift with the krankies G62..

Or a broom cupboard with girls ashussh Ed

03 Sep 2014 23:01:52
Hehe thanks G62

Yes we just got to get on with it a support the team and encourage the new signings. We just got to hope we can keep our back 4 pretty much fit at least until January when we can re-asses the lack of numbers defensivly. A couple of injuires and we down to bare bones with Monreal in the Centre which is a worry.

Jenkinson should never have been loaned out when he are now so light at the back and up front heavy instead. Sonogo and Gnabry should have been loaned out instead.

03 Sep 2014 18:02:29
As I understand it when the transfer window closes we are required to submit our squad of up to 25 senior (over 21) players to be registered to play in the EPL. We can also submit an unlimited number of under 21's. We can revise this list after the next window.

Our first team consists of 28 players 3 of whom are under 21 leaving us with what I assume is the 25 seniors submitted to play.

If this is true it is pointless people suggesting experienced out of contract players as they could not be registered anyway unless Wenger has left out Ollie from the list as he may not expect him to play until after the next window.

I think you right with the squad numbers thing. What we should have done really is kept Jenkinson and maybe even Miquel as we are short defensive numbers and loaned out Gnabry and Sonogo instead.

03 Sep 2014 14:26:54
Nobody can blame loic remy for choosing chelsea over us. We had all summer to make our move. We are weaker than last season I feel and it will be a close race for 4th again.

People are saying we have spent more than recent years. Its probably less if you look at it. We have more money from the premiership. Puma. And the emirates giving us more naming rights cash. Teams around us have spent more. Once again we will play catch up this season.

Wow kid, you have quite the cloud over your head. Weaker than last year?

Not much of an opinion of Sanchez then the biggest club signing since Bergkamp. And a pretty good replacement for NB52.

Turn that frown upside down.

03 Sep 2014 16:45:20
welbeck will be better than remy, watch this space

Not too sure how we can be WEAKER??

Wellbeck is better than Remy

Derby
Mate love to hear how we are weaker,
Think you may have missed some great signings

This is a weak and rather negative post.

But thanks for that lovely dose of sunshine.

Please come again!

I see where derby is comong from I think with the exception of Liverpool the other teams have improved their teams /sqaud more then us on paper at least and corrected their weaknesses. I do think we are playing catch up again.

Our squad is little stronger overall up front we have more options in Wellbeck and Sanchez now, both good signings. The disappointing thing is we still have not addressed our main weakness at DM and also left ourselves short of Defensive numbers.

For me Sonogo should have gone on loan not Jenkinson, it was silly letting Jenkinson go on loan when we knew both TV5 and Sagna both experienced defenders were both leaving. I just fear our lack of numbers in defence will come back to haunt us.

03 Sep 2014 13:06:22
Just read Wellbecks' comments on signing for us . One thing that stands out is a hunger to be a success . Positive energy won't do the team any harm. Let's get behind him and give him time to settle.

LOONY
I think he will be very hungry, wants to prove people wrong.
A lot of top ex pros saying it could be a very good signing
but we have true arsenal fans knocking him, me i've not watched him much, so i, ll be guided by the ex Manchester United pros
Phil Neville spoke on radio 5 before the sale and was shocked that Manchester United would sell him to a rival

03 Sep 2014 18:52:56
Rio speaks highly of him also - I trust his opinion as he trained with him for years

He will add so much to the team including "fight" when we are away to the big boys

I have a good feeling about Wellbeck for us, I think Wenger will give him real chance up front with Giroud now injuried. I would give him that chance down the middle and keep Sanchez out as wide attacker.


One thing you can be sure off is his work effect and willingness to selfishly run the channels and offer threat in behind. He may not be the most consistent finisher in the world but he is always handful I feel for defenders. He is Pretty quick(Not Walcott pace but quick enough) and strong and has decent close control in tight spaces which sits in well with our style. I think we will enable the likes of Ozil and Cazorla to gain more space to play with.

If Wenger has confidence in him up front am sure he will gain more confidence and start improving his finishing.

04 Sep 2014 00:01:25
Lol well the other choice Ryan really s just sonogo so i'd say I agree

03 Sep 2014 12:17:43
For all of this Welbeck squad number nonsense, you do realise that 23 was also worn by 2 club legends:

Sol Campbell
Ray Parlour

Not to mention Paul Dickov!

So I would argue that 23 is a great squad number for English players!

In fact our 'cursed' squad number is 9:

Davor Suker (the penalty miss. )
Francis Jeffers
José Antonio Reyes (The prank call)
Júlio Baptista (not quite the beast)
Eduardo (Still love this player!)
Park Chu-Young (who/where?)
Podolski (Who needs Gunnersaurus!)

I don't call Sol a legend

Sorry

For me, anyone who was a starting player on the invincibles is a legend.

Good boy cangun. The most outstanding thing that's been achieved by our club in my lifetime. He was an integral part of that squad. As important as anyone else I'd say. At that time, he was arguably the best cb in the world. What's to say we'd have gone unbeaten with sol? I doubt we would have done.

BANNERS
Any player that picks his coat up and says, i'm out of this broom cuboard of a club, for his Ex teams bitter rivals is a LEGEND
I would have Sol sit at my dinner tabble and tell me woes of what he won at spurs
The fact they still hate him makes me love him

You can't argue with Sol and his trophy success with us.

I still smile at the fact we nicked him on a free in his prime.

Sol is a legend. We could do with him now.

03 Sep 2014 08:32:16
I think it is Ozil, Mert, Welbeck and Kos cannot play in the International friendlies through injury. Well in my opinion if there was anytime to get an injury this is it.
Nice move boys! Wink! Wink! say no more .
What in the World is up with these people that organise these Internationals. The players have just had the World Cup around 12 weeks ago, had some friendly pre season games and now started the football season and they expect them to play in a friendly for a competition that doesn't start for nearly 2 years!
I think the players have got more on their minds then to worry about a couple of matches that at the moment don't mean a thing except it is like a couple of training games.
Do these organisers really believe that the players are going to play like they would in a real game. Of course they are not. They are not going to go into tackles like they normally would etc etc and run the risk of an injury that could wipe them out and have all the grief of compensation between England and their club dragging on and on for months.
SEE DEAN ASHTON FOR DETAILS. It's ridiculous.

Agreed

Utter madness

Money rules

03 Sep 2014 11:57:23
Mert retired from international duty! Thank god! Hopefully he is working to get match fit and hopefully wenger has not given him 2 weeks off to rest after his hectic schedule in August!

03 Sep 2014 07:37:51
Did u know Danny wellbecks dad used to be in bomb disposal I think his name was Stan

Did you know Gary and Phil Neville dad's Christian name is Neville

Is there an echo in this room?

03 Sep 2014 15:06:01
Is there an echo in the room.

03 Sep 2014 04:52:36
How can you watch Sanogo and Joel Campbell and play Sanogo? This baffles can anyone explain this. I feel Sanogo has no touch, can't read the game, gets caught offside far too often, i.e. v. Burnley if he held his run he is through on a breakaway. Further he isn't even good in the air, I can't find one redeeming quality. He might have a hard time breaking into barnet football club's starting 11.
How anyone can be upset with signing welbeck I don't understand either. Considering our spending habits he has a lot of upside. Think about playing man city, Chelsea, Tottenham with Sanogo leading our attack we would have no shot. Well maybe against tottenham.

Sanogo is an excellent young player, who was player of the tournament when France won the U20 World Cup, being their top scorer with 4 goals. He has scored consistently during his short career. The step up, particularly for a forward, to the top of the Premier League, so I suggest patience with him. I am certain Wenger knows what he is doing, having brought through the likes of RVP && Henry.
As for Campbell, I do feel sorry for him, as he has has little opportunity to shine at the club. I sense Wenger sees him more as a wide player, than a central striker.
We now have the excellent Welbeck, who has the experience to play the central role. With Theo back next month, our striking options look good. I am more concerned about our lack of defenders and the quality of our two holding midfield players.

Darrentampa. I'm with you on this one. I'm sure Wenger is supposed to know what he is doing. But I have seen absolutely nothing that suggests to me that he should be on the pitch let alone wearing an Arsenal shirt. Matter of fact I have seen nothing that convinces me he is a Premiership Player. I do not understand it either my friend.

He got caught offside twice in the game, do you know of another player called Van Nistelroy how many times he was caught playing offside playing for UTD, and still ended up with 30 goals. get your facts right before banging in here.

03 Sep 2014 13:46:17
Aman. To start with.Don't keep making your posts personal it gets on people's nerves. Secondly I actually do know what I'm talking about. Who cares about Van Nistleroy who is talking about him anyway. Nobody could give a monkeys about him. What facts are you on about anyhow.
All people are expressing is what they see is happening. By the way Geoff Hurst scored a hatrick for England at the 1966 World Cup. That's a fact too but about relevant to this post as your Van Nistleroy.

Lets not crucify the poor lad Sanogo. You can see he has the raw base physical qualities to be success he iss very raw and learning the game. He eds to go out on loan to be honest

03 Sep 2014 15:07:29
Thats funny golds, don't let them wind you up mate!

I am not trying to crucify Sanogo it is not his fault he is playing. But if you were Jürgen Klopp would you be the least bit worried about him playing up front. We might as well not even play Champions League because we have no shot with him up front. A few years ago when we should have beaten Liverpool in the Champions League when Theo scored that amazing goal I felt we had a chance to win it I haven't felt that way since. Aman talk to me when Sanogo scores one goal in a game that matters let alone 30.

Strikers need one of two things, instinct or composure, great ones have both Sanogo has neither that is all that has to be said on the subject.

Darrentampa. Not at all mate. If I was Klopp and I saw Sanogo's name on the team sheet I would laugh my balls off.
I'd be more worried if an unknown under 16 player was on the pitch.
Lets have a competition. Name 3 things you s think Sanogo is good at so far.
Mine are .
1. Walking on the pitch.
2.Wearing the correct kit.
3. Walking off the pitch.
-:)
See ya

Classic Goldboy my thoughts exactly. LMAO.
He is very good at
1. Sitting on the bench
2. Upping our shots off target statistic.
3. Celebration dance after scoring against Benicia.

03 Sep 2014 03:34:47
Welbeck out of Norway game. Injured in training.

03 Sep 2014 01:21:54
Still the most bizarre decision of the transfer window? Sending out Jenkinson and then ending the window extremely short on defenders.
The guy is Arsenal through and through, experience at the top playing right back, an engine to match anyone in the league and the physique to play/cover centre back?
Think we missed a trick to be honest.

Spot on

And you are not alone in those thoughts

crazy

LG its another one of those only Arsene knows why things like why Joel doesn't get a chance to show his world cup form for us.
Trying to understand Arsene's thinking will only make your head hurt

It is just a Loan deal Jenko can be called back if needed.

Hector bellerin will cover debucy if chambers is covering at cb. Bellerin just beat walcot's sprint record, did v.well in preseason and is looking like our future right back. That is why jenks was allowed to go.

That's all very well Jenson but what's he like at long jump and pole volt, and don't get me started on the parallel bars

Aman, no he cant, see Ed's earlier post

I doubt that very much players can be called back from loan, I remember SAF calling back 2 players from loan from a club his son was managing, when he got the sack. So I think its highly possible.

03 Sep 2014 00:57:35
i give in i've sent the tickets back I can't have the club mugging me off but that's my opinion


what I want to know according to records danny wa**er is now on a long term contract but at 115k a week!

if you look back at accounts 115k is our third highest weekly wage ever

and i'm told danny f)ckin welbeck is the answer costin us 5.9 million a year

welbeck costs 29.9 million with 16 million fee? and you think i'm fickle and lost my mind? jeez I can't believe I deflected it so well

persons

I very much don't agree with you and you are entitled to your opinion. However I don't think you should use derogatory terms on Danny Welbeck as you called him Danny W**ker, that's out of order and unfair, you shouldn't blame him for wanting to join us.

Gooner74. I don't believe you had a season ticket in the first place. Any arsenal fan over 12 wouldn't act like this. If you're going to act like this, it would have been after a transfer window when we spent money on crap, like 2010. Not now, when we spent £70 odd million. Ridiculous.

If you have done that, it can't be just because we have signed Welbeck. surely

I think we all need to calm down a wee bit.
Yeah they charge the fans too much that needs to be addressed by fans demonstrating about it, but with the waiting list being what it is don't hold our breaths. Welbeck is I think going to surprise some, provided he plays down the middle, he was brought by Fergie for that position, but has played for the team out of position. That at least shows commitment. Alex is still a top signing, Debuchey has already shown he's a solid performer & in Chambers maybe just maybe we have a gem of a player in 2-3 yrs.
The players we have are well up to standard the question is have we a team, if we improve the playing side & the problems remain then it is NOT the players.
This has been our problem ever since a triangle has been more important than a thru pass to a forward at pase.
Half the amount of passes & double the effectiveness of the same & we can get back to where we have all grown used too.
Any way guys the fun & stress :) of the window is over. We now have the players we have, let's get back to being fans & get behind the team.
Just a word for the eds who as usual done a great job & the regular posters that made me laugh & smile & think a bit more.
Gotta love the window for the sheer fun of it.

03 Sep 2014 09:50:15
Whats the waiting list for the season tickets like these days?

G74, I think you should reserve judgement on Welbeck until you actually see him play a game or two, in the central role.

Gooner74, you call yourself an arsenal fan speaking like that? Have you seen him play in an arsenal shirt yet, because I know I havent. How much of an person are you going to look if Danny Welbeck scores 15-20 goals this season? Have a bit of respect, we're not at school. Don't judge a book by its cover. You should give him a chance to show us.

03 Sep 2014 00:28:47
well in hindsight now guys given time to calm down

one question.

wellbeck or nothing

answer.

reluctantly I say wellbeck my son says a very definite nothing. guys?.

Welbeck, I think he'll do great and a lot of ex players and football journo's agree.