Arsenal Banter Archive September 03 2017

 

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03 Sep 2017 11:54:48
Steve r, I bet you have to live on the ground floor, stay away from bridges and train platforms, you miserable git lol.

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03 Sep 2017 12:08:53
Realist, thank you very much. Remind me to knock you of my Xmas card list.

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03 Sep 2017 12:25:56
lol, I wouldn't want the xmas card can only imagine the message, merry xmas not in great form, have a cold and the Arsenal are letting me down and so on ha ha, but seriously mate things aren't all that bad at the club and I'm sure it will be sorted soon as all the players will come together to out the problems, you can see some of them are geling together to out the trouble makers, let's hope it is resolved soon.

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03 Sep 2017 12:15:57
Gunnerwin, I challenge you whatever you might say to find fault in what I am saying. Because I have, along with a few others seen what has and is going on for longer than a few others. Who now are realising and saying what we have been banging on about, I don't quite understand you. And you are only stating the obvious anyway, I find your interest in me, when what is going on with our club, strange.

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03 Sep 2017 13:04:26
You forgot to finish with nah na na na nah steve!

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03 Sep 2017 13:39:26
Steve, I see you have a stalker.

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03 Sep 2017 13:56:18
Malaga, I think it's terrible you calling Sanogo a stalker. 😇.

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03 Sep 2017 14:06:52
Steve is very honest.

Oh, and razor blades are banned in his house 😁.

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03 Sep 2017 14:22:59
Ha sharpie, you old goat.

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03 Sep 2017 15:20:14
steve is the original wenger out. fact. also known as nostradamus.

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03 Sep 2017 15:30:45
Steve is already working on the getting Arsenes successor out campaign and will launch it the moment Arsene leaves:-)

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03 Sep 2017 16:56:31
Let's also remember it's not just Sanchez who wants / wanted out, Perez / Mustafi and Ox. there is something very very wrong within our club.

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03 Sep 2017 17:16:22
Derby, I've only wanted Wenger out these last 10 years. lol
No I've really only wanted him gone for the last 3 years. I was obviously dillusional before then. lol.

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03 Sep 2017 17:29:02
Lack of ambition from the club will obviously drive away any player who doesn't feel the same way.
It isn't complicated, horses for courses.

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03 Sep 2017 18:31:07
Ive wanted him sacked 8 years ago.

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03 Sep 2017 19:11:54
13/ 14 season for me should have been his last, the title was ours for the taking but the 4th place mentality kicked in and we finished surprise surprise 4th after leading the table in January.
It became obvious that season the ambition and desire wasn't there for more any longer.

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03 Sep 2017 19:51:19
I wouldn't be surprised gunner 62 he dontnit he min we signed lacaztte.

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03 Sep 2017 20:00:43
Speak English JELLY.

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03 Sep 2017 22:32:00
steve your posts might not want to be what everyone wants to hear, but anyone who can rubbish them is living with there heads in sand.

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03 Sep 2017 23:13:07
Agreed Derby.

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04 Sep 2017 01:38:49
Thanks Derby, you are a gent. Just for the record, you are the greatest poster on here behind me. By the way the cheque is in the post. lol.

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04 Sep 2017 05:01:48
Steve. r who is that guy in your dp, is he from some tv series?

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04 Sep 2017 06:54:55
So we had steve 3 years ago and Malaga 8 years ago. Maybe it's Malaga who is the real meshiha 😇.

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04 Sep 2017 10:58:23
In 2008 piers morgan wrote an article in the daily mail explaining why Wenger had to go. I don't really like the man, but if you read the article 9 years on, you can't now disagree with what he was saying. And there are many parallels for now.

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03 Sep 2017 10:01:25
First off i'd say there's definitely 'some' (how much that is i don't know) unrest at Arsenal. Hopefully the eds can help but what's the root of all this? Is it disgruntled player(s) rocking the boat (rotten apples so to speak) ? Is it Wengers bad management? Are the board interfering? Is it the fans/ media getting in the ear of players/ the board?

Don't know how close to the club the Eds are but now the transfer merry-go-round is over would love an insight into what's going wrong?

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{Ed002's Note - What you haven't said is how this "unrest" has manifested itself - so I don't know what you are talking about.}

03 Sep 2017 11:01:16
Ed, something happened last January and my money is in Sanchez p£ssing off some team members. Clearly there is unrest in the squad - can you share any insight?

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{Ed002's Note - We know that Sanchez wants to leave Arsenal and the Arsenal failed to deal with the matter leaving them with an unhappy player. I am not aware of him doing anything in January to upset his teammates.}

03 Sep 2017 11:40:15
In my opinion people Want it to be a Sanchez problem especially now he's made it cleae he's off asap because that keeps everything nice and cosy elsewhere.
If we had 11 problems like Sanchez last January we would have had a very different season and all would be looking much brighter than it is now.

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{Ed025's Note - he certainly appears to be the scapegoat G62 well amongst the players anyway, its a difficult time at the emirates thats for sure but it is what it is and it does not necessarily mean that arsenal cant do some damage this season, there are still some fine players in the squad and now its time for the supporters to get behind the team and show them some love, this is still one of the biggest clubs in the game and its time to step up to the mark for the fans and staff alike, so come on gooners show your class..

03 Sep 2017 11:43:30
Ed002 - Perhaps its the constant flapping of arms, rolling of head, and pointing of fingers when he runs into yet another a blind alley?

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03 Sep 2017 12:21:46
UC 25 goals 14 assists, the only player that every team in the top six, the fans of other teams would have. Scored at a similar rate to wrighty and Henry, what do you look at.

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03 Sep 2017 12:23:00
90 minutes of commitment effort and determination while wearing the shirt from all 11 players on the pitch and I'm on board Ed025 mate.
In my opinion Arsene and the players have to give the fans something to get behind and win them back over simply because they are the ones who have given the impression of simply going through the motions and are extremely happy to do so for a very long time now.
Show up against Bournemouth and Chelsea with a much improved attitude and 100% effort for 90 minutes in both games and win lose or draw and I they will go up a long way in my opinion of them mate.
I've never deamaded titles just to compete to the best of out ability because you can't ask for more that from anyone, but I don't think we've been getting that from the team over a season for a very long time now.

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03 Sep 2017 12:30:25
Agree gunner. Sanchez is a winner, very rare commodity at arsenal. If some of the others had a better attitude we may get better results and happier fans.

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03 Sep 2017 12:03:48
Ed, from an outsiders view it's hard to know exactly how and why it's manifested itself. From a regular fans view we can all see the media, pundits / ex players, and fans negative comments as of late. i'd just be interested to know your point of view/ opinion from someone who has a little more insight than most.

To be honest I struggle to believe the recent hype and like to think things aren't all that bad. but maybe that's because my glass is half full.

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{Ed002's Note - The problems at Arsenal date back to the whole fiasco about Wenger when the club were looking at a way forward but Wenger had wrested enough control to derail it to some extent. They spoke with options as I explained last year but that ended up going nowhere. Going forward it would make a lot of sense to have a Sporting Director/Director of Football to work with a new manager. The great fear as I see it will be having Wenger now making the decision on a new manager - and even potentially taking the Sporting Director role himself. My view would be for the board to put the effort in to finding someone to take over this summer and to look to a Sporting Director to come in. They could go with the heart and perhaps look to Viera as a Sporting Director to work with a more experienced manager or look to a high-end Sporting Director like Zorc and then look to a manager who could work with him.

As for the players, they are simply transient employees. If they are unsettled and want to move on, get the best deal possible and replace them. It quickly deals with disruption.}

03 Sep 2017 12:50:16
Steve the way I see it is if a band kept turning up drunk at their concerts forgetting the lyrics and all played different songs to each other it wouldn't be long before people quite rightly stopped going to see them.
If they decided to clean up thier act they would have to start somewhere with smaller crowds and rebuild there reputation before playing the O2 again.
It's uo to the team to show the world what playing field Arsenal means to them and so far what they have shown has been underwhelming to say the least.

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03 Sep 2017 13:04:49
Ed002, spot on with your final statement.

I'm not "in the know" about internal club dealings BUT, it seems odd that a club worth about a billion quid relies on a single man for the day to day. This just doesn't happen in other businesses (that I know of) . There is more to this entire saga than meets the eye.

For years now, Wenger has been as good as a sure thing as you can get in football. Top 4 finishes every year, champions league qualifications every year, minimal spending every year. If I had an employee like this, I'd give him a raise too because at the end of the day, I want to be making money. What I, as the owner of a company, will NOT tolerate is an employee cutting corners and and delivering subpar results. If he did and I did nothing about it, it would be entirely my fault as the owner of said company.

People constantly state that Arsene controls ever facet of the club. Think about this logically for a second. This isn't a mom and pop eatery. This isn't some small fry operation. This is a business worth in excess of a billion quid. Does anyone really believe that Arsene Wenger is pulling ALL the strings? Well, maybe you do, but I don't. Something doesn't smell right about any of this.

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03 Sep 2017 13:37:56
Cheers Ed it's nice to get your thoughts as well as the facts. It just beggars belief that after all of that Wenger was still offered a further 2 years. Though i can see the flip side of (the appearance of) stability over bringing in a stop gap whilst no one suitable was available.

When the time comes I think it's best Wenger steps away from Arsenal football club completely and we make a fresh start. Think even in a backroom role he'll still hold too much authority within the club. even if he doesn't want it. Staff will still look to him out of habit.

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{Ed002's Note - That would be myu concern aswell.}

03 Sep 2017 14:31:32
If Arsene appoints the next manager and stays in control behind the scenes then it really is time to give up on Arsenal football club then that would be time to call it a day once and for all for me.
I like Arsene and respect his past record before the Emirates but I'm in no way shape or form prepared to support Arsene Wenger fc, things are bad enough now.

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03 Sep 2017 09:53:53
First off i'd say there's definitely 'some' (how much that is i don't know) unrest at Arsenal.

Hopefully the eds can help but what's the root of all this, is it disgruntled players rocking the boat (rotten apples so to speak) ? Is it Wenger media frenzy.

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03 Sep 2017 10:10:17
Maybe they are simply as fed up of going through the motions as the rest of us.
It does seem right now that everything at Arsenal is simply about indulging Arsene.
Everyone seems to be simply putting everything on hold until Arsene decides he himself is ready to do something else with his time.
It's like he is king and we are simply waiting for him to abdicate as overthrowing him would be to outrageous to ever seriously consider doing.

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03 Sep 2017 12:34:16
Rumours and only rumours, some of the senior players think training is boring, uninspiring and not very technical. When you listen to pundits they always seem to pick on us for being naive and under prepared, so could have legs.

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03 Sep 2017 13:10:35
When you say unprepared I think it could be more Wenger being a football purist and believes we should play our way whoever the opposition are. Even though its predictable and teams can setup to counter our style i still think it works if we are disciplined, have the quality to do so and are the best team. However we haven't had the best team for quite some while now.

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03 Sep 2017 09:52:55
Ignoring the media-come-fan frenzy embarassment, roll back a few weeks and you're told this is our team for the forth coming season. what do you say?

Cech / Ospina

Bellerin Mustafi Kosielny Kolasinac
Chambers Holding Mertesacker Monreal

Ramsey Elneny Xhaka Ozil
Walcott Coquelin Wilshire Iwobi

Lacazette Sanchez
Giroud Welbeck

I'd say a solid first team that wouldn't worry me in the slightest starting every game with a more than capable 2nd team.

My only concern is our depth of quality in the 2nd team midfield - don't get me wrong, I think they could fill in well for the odd injury but with the demands of europa I think we need to strengthen here most come Jan.

Don't get me wrong, i see there's problems at Arsenal as much as the next fan, but i just can't understand.

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03 Sep 2017 11:11:07
As you say - squad is not strong enough

- Goalies ok
- Forwards - ok

Defence - not good enough if we get any injuries

Midfield - that's the first issue

Set up, discipline and attitude - second issue

Midfield - we can get by if we address the other issue.

Cech - Holding Per Kos - Bellerin Coq Elneny Kola - Ozil - front two of Sanchez and Lacazette

By playing two holding midfielders it should help Ozil

Or drop Ozil and replace the triangle with Granit Rambo and elneny. Prefer Ozil in the team personally.

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03 Sep 2017 12:18:46
Sy, I like the look of that team. Big fan of Elneny and think him and Coq infront of a back 3 in the current formation would provide the extra cover they need.

I like Xhaka in the team too though, like his forward runs and long range shots, just hope he can improve his control and possession so he doesn't give the ball away so much.

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03 Sep 2017 01:20:03
I love this club, always have always will, kills me to see our great club the way it is, I hate it when other clubs spend big and we don't, hate it when other teams win the title and we don't hate it when other teams win and we don't, but I love my club always have and always will, I will support my club if I like the manager or not, if i like the board or not, I support the club and nothing else! This year our club needs us more than ever, let's stop the slagging off and get bhind arsenal football club and show them how much they mean to us COYG!

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