Arsenal Banter Archive June 04 2017

 

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04 Jun 2017 20:13:04
If Marhez and Turan are to replace Theo and Danny or Iwobi then that seems an upgrade and great first 11 or squad additions but would be a downgrade on Ozil and Sanchez plus not an upgrade on attitude on anyone

So mixed feelings about these strong links.

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04 Jun 2017 20:29:28
For me the only replacement for sanchez, if we actually are interested would be mbappe. For me if we get him sanchez is leaving. Marez or turan would not be even close to replacing him.

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04 Jun 2017 20:52:44
Fantasy football imo lads, we will replace Sanchez with the best we can attract/ afford.
Mahrez might be the best we can get maybe we do better let's wait and see but we are not going to be replacing Sanchez and Ozil plus upgrading Theo and Danny all in one summer.
Replacing Sanchez will obviously be number one priority but realistically who? Maybe we will have to find a hungry workaholic natural born winner who is not on most people's radar or maybe we will have to just adjust to life without such a player as we did before Sanchez arrived.
The good news for us is for some unexplainable reason the gap between us and the champions has increased since Mesut and Sanchez arrived so maybe just maybe we will be 2 class players less but just as or even more effective as a team.

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04 Jun 2017 21:07:25
there are so many top quality strikers potentially available this summer, it would an absolute joke if aren't able to pull one of them off, Lukaku, lacazette, belotti, mbappe, icardi, morata, aubameyang just to name a few.

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04 Jun 2017 21:35:05
Front 3- Turan, Aubameyang, Mahrez

Midfield : Kolasinac, Ox, Granit, Bellerin

Defence : Mustafi, Kos, Holding

Goalie : Cech

Bench Henry, Rambo, Danny Elneny Chambers.

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04 Jun 2017 21:48:50
I'm not been funny steve but for a man who is reserved and cynical how can you say that! You would be satisfied with spending £100 million on a child who has been impressive for half a season to replace our best player proven in the prem for at least the last 2 seasons. I'm not for a second saying he doesn't look good but it's absolute crazy talk mate. Your caught up in the hype and are just wanting to see a buck in the trend for arsenal. For me the list of prioritys are keep Sanchez first before anything and if he goes then spending all our budget on a child is crazy!

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04 Jun 2017 23:00:48
Keeping Sanchez is paramount.

Would love Lacazette. He should be our number one priority.

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04 Jun 2017 23:39:18
Do you lads not think Sanchez is gone already? Hope your right but I personally think it's RVP and Cesc all over again, he's 100% an ex Arsenal player it's only a matter of the window opening and destination decided, Bayern is my guess.

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05 Jun 2017 00:47:07
Mbappe no worries from me he would light it up here without a doubt in my mind. People thought martial was the next big thing not a patch on mbappe. he's the real deal.

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05 Jun 2017 01:09:27
No sano i'm not saying anything except if we get mbappe, sanchez is leaving, he would be his replacement, we wouldn't have him on 300,000 and spend 100 mil without recouping.

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05 Jun 2017 07:54:56
I think we are have more than 150m to spend I think it's mind games and I think if we buy big soon Sanchez will stay ozil Iam not fussed on staying or going but if we want a good season Sanchez has to stay and a world class forward has to come in, would I like mbappe? 100 m is a lot on one player but if he's he real deal then yes I would but please no mahrez not good enough or turan.

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04 Jun 2017 10:46:59
Don't normally post but read every day.

The Eds and the regulars who post, You guys are brilliant. Thanks for the info and the laughs.

We all know Arsenal are in need of quality signings and I was just thinking what you guys felt about James Rodriguez?

Clearly deemed surplus to requirements at Real Madrid, quality player and decent price.

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04 Jun 2017 11:32:12
I like the lad and do see how he would make us weaker, but I do think there will be serious competion for him so we might be disappointed if we try to get him, but if you don't ask you don't get.

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04 Jun 2017 13:02:42
His agents mendes I think. Will he deal with wenger. Doubt it. So i'd rule it out. Isco i'd kill for tho.

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04 Jun 2017 00:59:58
Can't believe Wenger didn't splash the cash and spend £50m on John Stones, and wasted £2m on Rob Holding from the championship bargain basement. £35m for Mustafi, £35m for Xhaka. what the hell? Idrissa Gueye was available for £7m and Williams for £10m. get Koeman in now! Wenger's lost it. Giroud's pony he's only scored 98 goals in 159 games, never worth £13m! Can't believe we only won 3 trophies in 4 seasons (5 if you count community shields) seriously!?!? . NO CHAMPIONS LEAGUE footy for the first time in 17 years how dare football treat us like this! We've never won it, and been in the final once there is no way we shouldn't be competing in it! Come on Gooners seriously let's just let all this nonsense go. one thing as a club we like to pride ourself on is being a classy club, so let's show the class we have and get behind our great club, AND great manager. Let's bounce back as a united force and stop bickering between ourselves looking like spoiled kids and put the efforts towards shutting all the others up! COME ON YOU GOONERS!

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04 Jun 2017 08:13:44
Cant believe he signed perez over gabriel jesus. I hope we push on I really do. But if you are offering me two fa cups over the next two years and that's it il be disappointed. Wasnt enough for manu and imo after all these attempts wenger should of lifted it and said bye. But let's see I guess.
Holding for me looks great in a three not seen much in 4 at the back apart from liverpool game. I do like him tho.

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04 Jun 2017 08:55:52
I agree with you POBC, after yesterdays final and the quality on display from both sides, and for those who did not see it allegri bottled it with his half time no change or the fact that they came out worse.

there is a lot going wrong at arsenal but we need to get behind the team and manager, i'm not going to debate anymore than that.

what has hit home is even if we manage to land mbappe and keep our stars we still don't have 11 players on the pitch of madrid or juventus stature, besides sanchez and maybe ozil which other player would have been in either of those two teams?

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04 Jun 2017 10:16:30
Lakerville,

Quick question, how many of Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Spurs or United players would you put in either of those two teams?

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04 Jun 2017 10:29:21
Derby mate I'd be over the moon with two cups over the next two seasons of any sort ( ok not the charity Shield or Emirates trophy or whatever is called we host :-)
But either. League cup Europa league or FA cup would do me mate.
I'm not placing to much importance on the league for a bit because that only leads to disappointment and fault finding.
I have for years banged on about how I wanted us to challenge for not necessarily win but seriously challenge for the premier league and how we need to break the 80 points barrier to be contenders and where has that got me? Absolutely no where.
All it's done is stopped me enjoying other success as much as I could have because I've been so disappointed by our lack of competitiveness and appetit in the league, no more of that horribleness for me thank you :-)
If we finish 4th hip hip hooray
If we finish 7th I'm cool with that too
Even if we ended up out of Europe altogether by coming 8th or something silly ( I don't think it will happen but if it did) so what it would just mean less games the next season and a chance to concentrate on domestic competitions.
I really hope I'm wrong but I just can't see how we are going to go from the spending all of the last 10 seasons of apart from 1 finishing double figure points behind that seasons Champions to suddenly becoming a real force in one summer where the only major change is likely to be losing Sanchez and possibly Ozil too.
I'm not trying to be negative just honest with myself in a positive way as I possibly can without ignoring what I truly think.
With Arsenes new contract I have changed my outlook and rather than concentrate on what we can't or don't do I'm going to concentrate on enjoying all we can and do achieve much much more than I have allowed myself to in the past 3/ 4 seasons.
So we are highly unlikely to win the title and most probably even seriously contend for it next season? So what, 18 other clubs won't win it either most of which won't challenge either.
Newcastle and Everton are both very big clubs too and they won't be crying over finishing 10+ plus points behind the champions and winning a trophy and neither will I in future either.
Acceptance of what is rather than moaning about how it should be is my motto for the 2017/ 18 season.
We all have our own thoughts views and opinions and anyone who thinks we will the title next season because where Arsenal and they think that every season, good for you i hope your right this time round :-) I'm not prepared to start wearing those rose tinted specs just yet but for me at least it's time to shop crying over what we don't do and just enjoy the best bits again.

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04 Jun 2017 12:16:43
stoner the answer would be 2-3 players but most of our players would not make their bench while chelsea, spurs, city would.

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04 Jun 2017 14:45:12
Good post gunner. Horses for courses I guess. I just don't do anything to not win and I see the potential in the club we support. Imo if wenger can't deliver I title he should of stepped aside. But let's see what he does this summer etc. If we finish 7 there will be full on riots unless its with a europa league win.

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04 Jun 2017 16:41:40
Derby I can't see the title going anywhere but to Chelsea City Utd or Spurs so I'd also expect those clubs to make up the top 4 next May.
Having said that 1 or may even 2 of them might fail to improve as much as I expect over the summer or just fail to deliver as I think they will which would leave the door open for us Liverpool and or Everton to gate crash top 4.
It's difficult to see all 4 coming up short at the same time but it did happen 2 seasons back when red hot favorites City and Chelsea both failed to show up allowing Leicester surprise the footballing world showing you can never absolutely way no way never to us or anyone else finishing above the 4 I expect to fight it out.
We could make some fantastic signings who all gel immediately taking us from also rans into contenders or we might not make any further signings at all but the current players and team have a totally mentality switch and fight like tigers for every ball in every game next season, ok I'm not expecting either to happen but if it does I won't be complaining that's for sure, mind you where ever we finish I won't be complaining :-) Especially if we get any of the cups.

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04 Jun 2017 17:51:54
I just don't see how we have had 13 years going at the title and we now are not nearer to it. Baffles me and that I can't accept.

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04 Jun 2017 18:08:29
I see your point Derby and it is disappointing but it is what it is and we can't change it mate.
The only thing we have any control over is ourselves mate and how we let it affect us.
If things don't change under Arsene (and it's not impossible even if unlikely) change will come at some point that's for sure be in 2 years or 10 years it will happen and until things turn out differently to how they have done for the last decade or so we can either laugh or cry about it, personally I'm sick of crying about it so I'm going to give the laughing thing another bash :-)

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04 Jun 2017 19:04:37
Thanks Laker,

Guess you are probably right mate.

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04 Jun 2017 19:38:13
62 tbh it used to annoy me a lot but now I just stay away or don't watch. If i'm in il switch on but don't cancel plans for it. The love will come back one day i'm sure. Maybe mbappe is that love lol.

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04 Jun 2017 19:52:51
But Derby don't they say if you can't support me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best! Bit fair weather for me COYG.

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04 Jun 2017 21:02:34
That's a bit harsh Suseex mate you can't blame people for not being as excited about the team as they used to be mate, is it the fans fualt or the clubs fault people are less passionate than they were?
You shouldn't rely ideffinately on people sticking around through loyalty and habit sooner or later you have to give them something to get excited about.
The Emirates can't hasn't and won't continued to attract a full house while not showing the ambition that gets people excited.

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04 Jun 2017 23:37:50
Guess we will have to agree to disagree 62. Just can't imagine not trying to watch a game but then I was on the north bank watching in 70s and 80s so feeling spoiled these last 13 years :) Just a shame if you can't get excited as we have won 3 fa cups but all different I guess which is what the site is all about COYG.

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05 Jun 2017 00:50:56
Sussex I play a lot of ball so rather play than watch as when i'm old I can watch all the games I want. Also uncle duties come into play etc. At the start missing games was horrible but you soon realise it isn't everything. But I hear your argument.

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05 Jun 2017 10:28:52
Derby, you don't have to explain yourself. I don't like to see people using terms like fair weather or die hard or whatever, its all bow locks to me. We are all fans and some are more able to watch than others.

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